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Note: main opposition to Likud at this moment is that: 1) Haredi aren’t excluded from conscription 2) He wasn’t prepared for Iran’s warfare. 3) to a lesser extent, corruption Losing majority has nothing to do with Israel engaging in war, committing war crimes, genocide, apartheid, settlers, etc.

I got searched about 3 minutes after posting in this exact thread despite posting in this subreddit for some time.

Yeah, happened to me too. I use a throwaway email that I took a few steps to disassociate from my Reddit identity. Anyone motivated enough can probably figure out who I am — but I was surprised that shortly after posting here (less than 5 minutes) my name turned up in Israeli searches. They have a pretty sophisticated de-anonymizing setup going on.

The one dude is one of the ugliest looking dudes ever, and the other is one of the most boring and generic looking dudes ever. Lmfao. No wonder they are so invested in Israel. They have no value outside of their nationality.

It can also undermine national interest.

Man, US state governments are missing out on a huge opportunity here. So many people struggling with low-end jobs with no way to improve their life situation, while the US is trying to reconcile a population that is not price nor skill competitive with global workforce, with maintaining a capital-heavy society. US governments should lean into what ive conceived of as “micro-manufacturing” and entrepreneurship. Partner with community colleges to create 2 year degrees focused on basic engineering with the goal of designing and engineering products manufactured on 3d printers and desktop CNC.

I’m not sure about this specific instance, but it’s well established that Israel will invalidate deeds of Palestinian land under Jewish claims of historic ownership, usually a vague reference to Jewish ownership in the Ottoman Empire — to defend from such claims, Palestinians usually need to be able to trace back deeds to the Ottoman Empire as well, or it will be considered insufficient to prove valid Palestinian ownership. The courts have made it almost impossible for Palestinians to prove their own ownership in cases like this. Basically if a Jew wants your land, it will be their land. And there won’t be compensation.

Lol, capitalist countries have mostly ended up in the middle income trap. Most countries that escaped the middle income trap have mixed markets.

A bit relevant: Whenever I try to explore consequences of AI on labor/society with AI, even if I try to push it in a right-wing direction, the AI will almost invariably end up promoting socialism/communism as the way to address the consequences. It's really not surprising -- LLM's are basically regurgitators of what humans have written previously, and socialist writers have thought about this kind of stuff a lot, while capitalists have basically always went back to "trust the market!" So what happens when you're in a conversation where you start doubting the capability of the market to address these concerns, and the AI agrees (or alternatively, you promote market-orientation and the AI disagrees\*)? The AI has nothing to fall back on except lean towards what socialists have written about it. \* Again, capitalists haven't written much about it. These discussions on the capitalist side always basically get reduced to "trust the market! It will figure it out in the long term!" And meanwhile a lot of contemporary writing is doubting that, I think biasing the LLM towards narratives that frame this as a legitimate plight. And then the AI doesn't have much material to explore contrary to that narrative.

Nah, you probably admonish Israel for not killing more Palestinians.

Nah, I have a plan of some more stuff to say if I trust you are sincere.

Can I ask you to be specific? That it’s fucked up that Israel assassinated people with little evidence and high error rates?

Just do it Admonish Israel for this Or you can’t, because your only interest is making Iran out to be a unique bad guy and the legitimate target of war?

Nah, we’re just sick and tired of the hypocrisy. I’m fucking sick and tired of our media by and large sitting on the story of, for example, Israel using dubious AI claims of militating involvement [targeting nearly 40,000 people for assassination](https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/). The AI is known to have a 10% error rate, but then turn around and act like every action the Iranian government does justifies bombing Iranian civilians. It’s all fucking propaganda. You’re not a hypocrite too, are you? Can you make a statement of admonition for Israel’s extra-legal assassinations killing many innocent civilians?

Dude you’re literally whitewashing massacres and hand waving them under the guise of “it’s messy and complicated.” Not to mention blatant lies. It wasn’t “assadists” causing the massacres to “cause problems for the new government.” It is well documented that the “General Security Service” (which filled much of its ranks with people involved with groups associated with Al Qaeda, as they were loyal to and enthusiastic about the new government lead by Al Qaeda associates) and the HTS (itself a former Al Qaeda associate that officially disassociated with Al Qaeda to start receiving direct US support to fight the Assad government) were the perpetrators of the massacres. The new government did blame “Assadists” for the massacres, as they sat on their asses and ignored prosecuting journalists and human rights groups referring them specific documentation on know perpetrators. The Assadists that ended up going towards prosecution in the claims they were involved in massacres ended up being charged for crimes related to insurgency against the new government’s own militants/security forces, not for crimes against Alawites. So what the fuck is wrong with you? How’re you so deranged to be whitewashing and hand waving the murder of families and children?

ethnic cleansing guys, nbd, it’s not genocide so chillll, they’re reasonable I promise

More reasonable by slaughtering anlawite families and a few other minorities? The reasonability of ethnic cleansing? Right. I guess it would be reasonable by the perspective of the US and Israel.

My guess is the director was probably talking about a few specific people, not the decision as a whole, and Times of Israel took it out of context to write their narrative.

And the letter put out by the management committee (usually made up of choir members itself) claims otherwise. It could be there are internal disagreements in perspective about why they chose not to go one. Perhaps a few did object politically but most who voted against it were concerned with practicality. Whatever it’s worth, I don’t trust the vast majority of Israeli reporting on this stuff, just like I don’t trust Fox News in its reporting on Trump, or Iran’s reporting on dissent.

They probably have all of their free days booked and planned for rehearsing for the May concert, and have probably already been practicing and rehearsing for a month or two. So, realistically, they’ll have a month or less to rehearse for the Hope and Unity concert. Typically choirs rehearse *at least* 8-10 weeks, and longer if it’s an option. These are probably volunteers, it’s probably not even a part time job for the choir members. It’s a PITA to expect them to somehow find time to add an extra day for rehearsal every week to perform something with a month of rehearsals, at short notice. These are people who still have lives to live — vacations, time for the kids, other hobbies, etc.

This is what the Australian Hellenic Choir stated on their facebook: > It is also untrue that The Australian Hellenic Choir refused to sing with the Sydney Jewish Choral Society in a concert titled Hope and Unity. This performance was proposed to the Choir only last week, and was scheduled for 28 June. This date was deemed too close to an end of May concert the choir has been rehearsing for. As a result, the majority of the choir voted against participating, due to time constraints.

Two Palestinians killed during an Israeli Terrorist attack\*. Even when Western media gets it right, they get it wrong. Why should anyone have faith in Western civil institutions after they completely and utterly failed Palestine?

Israel’s already been telling Sunni and Christian community leaders in the south not to accept Shia refugees or those communities themselves will become the targets of bombing. They’re making it clear that Hezbollah isn’t their distinct enemy — entire groups of people are, women and children included. Palestinians, and now Shia. And they’ll find more, as long as the world buries its head under the sand. These things historically escalate until forced to stop.

Israel is now committing ethnic cleansing of Southern Lebanon, and it can probably be argued are committing genocide against Shia muslims. Reports are coming out that Israel is telling Druze and Christians not to house Shiites or they'll become targets.

Israel doesn’t care. They’ve been playing both sides (mostly through Russia, who’ll likely be a major pole in a multipolar world even after their decline). But what they will have achieved is becoming the regional hegemony.

Let’s remember that one of its moderators was likely Maxwell.

Never mind that Israel’s terrorism against journalists is a part of why Palestine scores low. But your argument is whataboutism. It doesn’t change that Israel’s media is beholden to government interests. Israel’s media is terrorist media.

Check the press freedom index. They’re well into the lower half of countries in ranking. Why are you so supportive of a terrorist regime? You must be a racist arabophobe.

> Municipalities are responsible for the building of communal shelters - this has been the law since 1951. Never mind Israel’s central planning and its failure to approve any master plans for many Arab localities. You’re the one that hasn’t read those links, as it details the barriers to municipalities constructing bomb shelters.

I can already see it now, Israelis and their simps trying to use the banners to “prove” they are all for unity and peace and it’s actually the scary Arabs that just terrorize poor innocent Israel. They’ll downplay and burry that it was a requirement by FIFA because of their blatant racism.

Eh, for a huge part Israel can be chalked up to the UK trying to do the minimum to keep neither Zionists nor Arabs a political PITA, until it blew up in their face, in which they shrugged and tried to walk away. It wasn’t into the 1960s and 1970s that it was realized as a potential platform to project power. While the trends started before, a big part of it was honestly the 1970s Oil Crisis in which the US realized that if it wanted a stable supply to oil, it’s going to require extensive Middle East meddling.

Btw: denying well documented injustices to minority groups of people makes someone a real piece of shit. Not saying you're a piece of shit, just those type of people.

Source Challenge: Israeli Source Only (Impossible) Edition Lack of shelters for Arabs: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-11-04/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israeli-govt-neglected-to-build-shelters-in-arab-towns-now-deaths-are-growing/00000192-f8af-d51d-a5d3-febf0b530000 https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2025-06-16/ty-article-opinion/israel-must-do-everything-it-can-to-ensure-arab-towns-are-protected-from-missiles/00000197-7a46-d3ff-a7bf-7ed601030000 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-828943 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-857948 Disparity in Zoning and Permitting: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/hrw-alleges-govt-land-policy-discriminates-against-israeli-arabs-627764 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/arab-jewish-group-calls-for-more-planning-permits-cessation-of-house-demolitions-485245 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/2016-02-22/ty-article/.premium/for-arabs-no-choice-but-to-build-illegally/0000017f-db3a-d856-a37f-fffaf1c40000 https://www.haaretz.com/2010-07-30/ty-article/study-govt-policy-prevents-building-permits-in-arab-communities/0000017f-db06-d4e1-a57f-fbc73beb0000 Claims that Israel tries to see that debris falls on Arab/Palestinian areas, instead of Jewish areas, are touched on here: https://www.972mag.com/hezbollah-rockets-palestinians-iron-dome-shelters There are more sources for that claim, but they aren't Israeli and I'm doing hard mode Israeli sources only version. But consider that a huge number of Arabs and Palestinians live in "open areas" or in towns that are not recognized officially by Israel (due to the prior zoning/permitting issues) and thus are not protected by Iron Dome, and also are considered areas where it's "safe" for debris to fall.

Israel has a history of intercepting missiles over Palestinian Israeli areas (towns, neighborhoods, etc.) and over Palestine territory, if possible, too, precisely so the debris lands on Palestinians (even Palestinian citizens of Israel) instead of landing on Jews. To expand on the disparity here — a huge number of bomb shelters in Israel are owned by basically neighborhood associations, and are not public. These shelters often only allow Jews in their shelters — no Arabs or Palestinians, no Thai, Indian, Filipino workers. You can find videos of people being turned away online pretty easily. Public shelters, in Arab and Palestinian areas in particular, are scarce — Israel does not allow sufficient permitting or zoning for Arab/Palestinian communities to grow to respond to population demands, so many homes are built without permits and the number of homes are vastly underreported in official counts, and in turn Israel only funds a number of public shelters to be built for a much smaller population than the actual population. Therefore shelters are overcrowded, insufficient, and too far to reasonably access. Effectively, bomb shelters in Israel are largely a resource only for Jews to use.

Bombing Trump, sure. But the US and Israel are bombing entire neighborhoods at a time.

Do they live in Iran? Hint: there are still massive internet outages in Iran. I haven’t been able to talk to my even tech-savvy friends since the war started. Any video coming out of Iran right now is basically stuff distributed with an agenda.

Congratulations, you fell for the propaganda!

Are ya gonna eat ya hat

Houthis: Am I a joke for you? Venezuela: wasn't an extensive bombing campaign, just installation of a puppet leader.

Maybe the US and Israel shouldn’t use human shields. Literally putting soldiers into civilian hotels, radars in dense residential neighborhoods, etc.

“They will thank us for bombing them!” This is literally your mentality.

Except that has never worked. This is the same attitude that lead to the rise of ISIS. But that’s probably a desirable outcome for Israel — a fractured, destroyed Iran with an ineffective, puppet government is an Iran that can’t oppose Israel’s hegemony and ambitions to annex neighboring land and the long elimination of Palestinians.

A lot of individual reports came out of soldiers in the vicinity of attacked bases/hotels dying of “prior medical conditions” with no further elaboration. Probably technically true.

Nah, staying out of prison is why Netanyahu plays along, but there is an entire political machine underneath him called Zionism.

One thing to keep in mind about intelligent people is they still have the psychology of a human. If they want to believe something, they will, and then it’s even more intractable because they use their intelligence to justify it.

Israel: kills tens of thousands of children, minimum, kills tens of thousands of other innocent people, destroys civil life for multiple countries, commits genocide and ethnic cleansing You: people hate Israel because Jews are defending themselves! Also 20% of Israeli citizens being Arab/Palestinian doesn’t dispel claims of apartheid, which rests in the treatment of Gaza and West Bank. It also doesn’t actually mean Palestinians have equal rights in Israel — Israel uses so many extra-legal means to establish Jewish supremacy. One of the most blatant examples is its use of land — housing associations and local town-level governments systematically deny Palestinians the right to reside there. Available land to establish communities is controlled by the Israeli Land Authority and the Jewish National Fund, which only grants leases to Jews — Palestinians are prohibited from leasing or owning something like 80% of Israeli land. Zoning laws are regularly used to arbitrarily prevent growth of Palestinian communities, and access to other resources and infrastructure are similarly disparate. Israel’s national laws are, yes, mostly “ethnically blind,” but that’s because they outsource their discrimination to independent institutions that are inherently and structurally, and often explicitly, disparate in the ways they provide for Jews and Palestinians. That Palestinians can be elected to Knesset and be lawyers and judges are a bug of the system, not a feature. The vast majority of Israelis would undo the system if they could. They want Palestinians to be “foreigners” in their own land. Also note: your genocidal use of language by calling Palestinians “Arabs,” meant to rhetorically erase their ethnic and national identities.

I don't think they meant to blow up a girls' school, they just didn't a fuck what they were blowing up. They FAFO'd (and they still don't give a fuck).

We can pretty reliably put (modern) hellfire missiles through the windows of individual rooms and, with a low-yield warhead, kill only the occupants there with minimal danger to adjacent rooms. Some variants are designed to hit a target of 30cm 50% of the time. You're not going to accidentally hit the wrong building basically ever. If US weapons are not precise, it's because they chose a weapon that's not precise. This is just negligence. The latest reports are reporting that the compound hasn't been an activate military base for over a decade. *They just didn't give a fuck*. They either had a list of targets generated by AI, or just took a "bomb everything!" approach, either way without care to verify targets (something they're obligated to do by international law and military procedure). But then you've really gotta ask -- *if this was a day 1 target*, an abandoned military base that has long been converted to a girl's school, and with the US bragging about the scale of its bombing, how effective are the US strikes really? It's a big show of force but what have we actually been achieving? Killing a bunch of innocent Iranians, while rockets continue to pound Israel and US allies?

lol he is using the shittiest photos to try to demonstrate his point. There are plenty of other satellite images in various news articles that show it better. Or are you so concerned the school doesn't have a drive-up drive-thru style roads like American schools? Are you really that car-brained you can't imagine that a country with 50% of households owning cars (with that probably being biased towards Tehran -- look at Minab's neighborhoods and you'll see few houses have places for families to keep cars, or even drive cars near their home), is going to design their schools to suit a different kind of commuter? Look at other schools in Minab on Google Maps and you'll see very similar layouts with a perimeter wall, a few gates for pedestrian use, and one or two cars parked outside the school with no obvious road for the car to enter.

I don’t see anyone hand waving it, but it doesn’t justify bombing elementary age school girls and bombing the same hospitals you’re speaking of. And it’s not really that relevant to bring up when pointing out that the US bombed schoolgirls. Do you really want a footnote of bad things other countries have done every time a critique against the US is made?