Surprise: Iranian Ex-Official Involved in Peace Talks Was Just Bombed
Posted by polymute@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 108 comments
Posted by polymute@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 108 comments
Fletaun@reddit
These small hat wearing nation try so hard to derail any communication efforts for peace yet they themselves unwilling to commit their own troops and prefers other to die for them. Some God's chosen people their are
TrueRignak@reddit
You could have written "The terrorist state that is Israel".
I swear, amalgaming wearing the kippah and Israel, that's like accusing someone to support ISIS beause they fast during ramadan.
NearABE@reddit
Funny that my first thought was the MAGA hat. Thought it was kinda weird since baseball caps are not really that small. The kippah is definitely small.
Fletaun@reddit
That why I wrote nation not people because just like every community there a good and bad people, some(majority) support it and other against it while nation put the blame to their government which to be frank have been on it since day 1. I don't really vibe calling it terrorist state since I don't recognise it as a state.
BroMan001@reddit
Then say “the zionist occupation project” cause that’s what it is
Dark1000@reddit
Not everything is an opinion. Sometimes you are just wrong.
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
If you ever feel powerless, remember that your condemnation of an international crime is just as effective as the UN's!
Alpha_Majoris@reddit
Let's bash the UN some more, because they haven't had enough. I know they are powerless, but it's the best we have, so let's cherish that.
clubby37@reddit
The UN was created to prevent atrocities like genocide, unprovoked war, and political assassinations, all of which Israel and the US are wantonly engaging in. If I invent a robot butler to make me breakfast, answer the door, and serve drinks in the evening, but all it ever does is sit there mumbling incoherently about antisemitism, I'm not gonna shrug and say it's the best I have, I'm gonna throw it out and build a new one.
whatisthisnowwhat1@reddit
If the UN had an army with which to stop things the same people crying about them doing nothing would be crying about this army going around stomping in places it has no right to......
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
I don't know how much my country contributes to that overblown charity drive, but I'd rather most of it stayed in our coffers.
Then again, our politicians would just steal that too, so iunno man...
Yetanotherdeafguy@reddit
Different subreddits ban/require approval to post comments referencing Israel in particular ways.
It's not self censorship so much as censor evasion.
PuntiffSupreme@reddit
I promise you Anime titties isn't going around banning anyone for saying something negative about Israel.
Shady_bookworm51@reddit
sure but for the longest time that flaired user only thing combined with whatever cqs they were using meant that most threads about them died fairly quickly due to lack of replies.
PuntiffSupreme@reddit
I presume the idea was to make moderating the stuff easier, and it didn't end up purging any anti Israeli sentiment. I doubt you could remain positive karma as a pro Israeli poster in the sub.
Posts like the top level comment here always veer in a 😟 ng direction which focuses on the Jewish nature of Israel rather than the ultra nationalist nature of it, and bad actors will jump in on that. The mods have to manage the like between these two groups.
Successful-Bobcat701@reddit
No, but Reddit does.
Maximum-Hall-5614@reddit
You can say Zionist, it is not a banned word on this subreddit
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
There is that brother of a certain italian plumber from a few years back.
Reddit still has automated stuff looking for mentions of his name. i once used it in a comment, and got a three day bann. There is no way in hell it took only 3-4 minutes from posting to an admin clicking ban.
fuckdatguy@reddit
They have Automated bans in place now
aykcak@reddit
Seriously not only it is ineffective at identifying what the fuck they are talking about, it is also racist
Freud-Network@reddit
It could just as easily be a small red hat.
Gubbinso@reddit
I think that language is a result of avoiding filters used by various social media, especially tiktok, to censor posts about Israel or genocide. Like replacing killed with unalived or rape with grape. It sorta reminds me of cartoon censorship, which made various villains say destroy or other synonyms of it instead of kill.
redridingoops@reddit
You're right, though France also gave the world "Nazis without foreskin" which I still think is great.
TrueRignak@reddit
If I may precise for those that read that without knowing the story, it was one humorist who speaking specifically about Netanyahou.
redridingoops@reddit
It was indeed but it fits so many others in this country...
WannaAskQuestions@reddit
Well said!
BioSemantics@reddit
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/israeli-identity-and-the-anti-freier-504928
This might explain some of it. Israeli has some unique cultural traits that Jewish people in other places don't share and are just as confused by as anyone else would be.
Maximum-Hall-5614@reddit
Please do not conflate the Zionist state with being a Jewish nation. They may claim that, but Palestine is a pluralistic state that has been illegally occupied by supremacist fascists.
Their supremacy and fascism is not intrinsically Jewish. To conflate the two is not only antisemitic, but it is accepting the Zionist framework.
The genocide, the multiple fronts of ethnic cleansing and the illegal war are more important to focus on, however Zionists will use comments like this to justify their actions.
MongolPerson@reddit
Israel is committed to South Lebanon right now. Hezbollah claims to have destroyed over 60 Merkava MBTs over the past 3 weeks. No statements on IDF casualty figures, but it looks bleak.
Drewskeet@reddit
Have you read the bible? God kills a lot of people in that book.
BufferUnderpants@reddit
It’s kind of a big deal in that book that he reserves some authority for himself and not for humans
NotGalenNorAnsel@reddit
I don't read poorly written fantasy. I stopped reading Eragon too.
Fletaun@reddit
And? It the God how can you question the God what a grand and intoxicating innocence
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
The Republic of Half-bra Hat.
reddit_is_geh@reddit
It's easier to just go bomb weak groups of people, while you let your cuck-baby 'Merica go spend money and blood on the hard fights.
InfoNazi@reddit
Has everyone noticed by now that Israel only targets people who negotiate with the US and not radicals within the Iranian government?
All off ramps will be destroyed so the US is forced to commit to a ground invasion and possibly Balkanise Iran, I.e. Israel's end goal.
royal_dansk@reddit
Much like when it was propping up Hamas way back when the PLO was still the force to reckon
NaXter24R@reddit
What still amazes me is how not a single country in the world, beside maybe Turkey, said anything against Israel.
We all know Iran is a regime, we all know their atrocities, we acknowledge there must be a change there, yet all the time people seems blind in front of Israel.
sluttytinkerbells@reddit
I think I’ve seen some stories of China speaking out against Israel.
It got me thinking that should America fall and China become the world power that Israel is fucked. There’s no way Israel is infiltrating Chinese culture and politics like they did to America.
WannaAskQuestions@reddit
Except China has no desire to replace US as the world bully. They'd much rather shore up their own regional security interests, continue to improve their population's living standards, and pursue progress with a utmost focus.
sluttytinkerbells@reddit
That may be the case but it's unlikely.
China is an authoritarian country. Believe it or not authoritarians aren't content to just oppress people within their borders and they yearn for the opportunity to oppress more and more.
The only reason China doesn't isn't because they don't want to but because they can't.
Once America falls they'll oppress more people. That's just how it goes. And at the same time they're not going to let Israel fuck around if it threatens them. And without America to help them they're going to be left twisting in the wind.
Federal_Thanks7596@reddit
China absolutely could but they don't. They seem to only focus on trade and soft power.
Tetr4Freak@reddit
And that was where the real American power was.
Until now.
BroMan001@reddit
Soft power for white people, gunpowder for everyone else
Tetr4Freak@reddit
Yep
beefprime@reddit
That's simply not true, the US uses military power including outright invasions, coups, destabilization ops, as well as literally rigging the world financial systems so that they can use them to inflict mass suffering on whole countries, etc, across the globe to maintain their hegemony, "trade and soft power" is bullshit.
Quirky-Cat2860@reddit
Generally speaking, sure. But the US has flexed its military muscle in several countries over the years, to get their way.
Derlino@reddit
They've been doing it for over 70 years on several continents
DweebInFlames@reddit
America has been bombing the shit out of countries halfway across the world for 75 years now. Stop with this revisionist shite.
Tetr4Freak@reddit
And has done it with support of Allies.
HooleyDoooley@reddit
The USA has almost always been this way
WallyWestJest@reddit
were really still doing “but…but…China is authoritarian,” in 2026?
about as hollow as the terms: “terrorism,” and “democracy” and “freedom.” throw words around so loosely and they don’t really mean much of anything.
Leonature26@reddit
What's your proof that china isn't authoritarian in 2026? Cuz I've seen plenty of evidence that they are. Mostly from footages from chinese people.
WallyWestJest@reddit
Never said they were or weren’t. I merely highlighted a recurring issue of people inconsistently throwing around what are effectively meaningless terms to describe other people and their countries.
That’s it.
I’ve spent my entire life in a country that continuously beats its chest railing on about freedoms, justice, liberties, equality and human rights. but when I look back on my own personal experiences, and the experiences of the people that I care about, and take note of the problems plaguing the things, places and people that i care about -forgive me but the “such and such people over there are authoritarian” bullshit rings hollow. I don’t have a shadow of a doubt that elsewhere folks probably are “authoritarian,” and shitty. But I don’t give a fuck about that because my own country and its allies are also authoritarian and shitty. And to add further insult to injury, the likelihood of other people’s countries being authoritarian and shitty as the direct result of the meddling of my authoritarian shitty country is pretty fucking high.
Leonature26@reddit
You're implying here that China is not an authoritarian in 2026. Either they are or they aren't. What's your proof that they aren't? (You didn't answer this and instead went off a lengthy tangent on your life)
I got a list on why China is an authoritarian country:
-one party rule (CCP only)
-censorship and media control (criticism of CCP = jail)
-judicial system has no independence
-crackdowns on protests (hongkong, xinjiang, tianamen, covid, etc.)
Derlino@reddit
Where are they implying that China isn't authoritarian? What they're doing is highlighting the contradiction between China being categorised as authoritarian, whereas the US is a "free democracy" fighting "terrorism".
Two things can be true at the same time, China is authoritarian, but bringing them up like a big bad when the US and their lapdog/master are out here committing crimes against humanity is a little ironic, don't you agree?
I think you're reading too much into what they're saying. Besides, there is one global superpower that has been invading countries all over the globe for over 70 years, and it's a supposed democracy fighting for freedom, though who's freedom is difficult to say.
Leonature26@reddit
Questioning why "we're still doing china is authoritarian in 2026?" implies that he believes china is NOT an authoritarian in 2026.
WallyWestJest@reddit
that’s what you’ve interpreted, not what is in the text.
clearly you want to argue with someone, unfortunately for you that person is not going to be me. have a nice day
Leonature26@reddit
As per usual CCP apologists can't handle it when faced with straight facts 🤦♂️
sluttytinkerbells@reddit
You're trying to pivot to a banal conversatino about semantics to distract from the fact that China doesn't have things like rule of law, property rights, due process, freedom of speech etc...
These are just the facts Jack.
DweebInFlames@reddit
processedwhaleoils@reddit
I mean. I agree with you as an american. But this reads like you've just finished your first semester of poly-sci and you've now realized the world is more complex and cruel than you grew up to understand.
I hear you.
But you'd be a complete retard if you fall for any of china's bullshit. The way they push smartphone and social media alone is literally worse than blade runner or cyberpunk.
China is absolutely fucked as a country.
processedwhaleoils@reddit
I mean, just because the US under trump has attempted a return to 19th century bullying, doesn't mean china wasn't the authoritarian, genocidal police state working towards a literal skynet to opress its citizens with that it has been for the passed 4-5 decades.
China is still a worse country, and they'd cause more pain if they could. They're just watching the US knock itself down a few pegs.
People get distracted easily, but china under the ccp will never be morally just or kind. And they will now undoubtedly try and take taiwan.
OsgrobioPrubeta@reddit
China has been present in many countries far away from their borders, the biggest example is Africa where has been exercising soft-power for decades, being favored as a partner precisely for its soft-power. Xi isn't as dumb as Trump or Putin, he has armies of advisors formulating scenarios and he follows them.
mr_herz@reddit
You’re right they’re authoritarian, but it boils down to if you’re a story person or a numbers person;
US military actions outnumber China's significantly over the past 100 years (1926-2026).[1][7]
Countries Invaded/Attacked
Non-Citizens Killed (estimates)
Sources [1] How Many Countries has the US Invaded? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/how-many-countries-has-the-us-invaded [2] China’s military (1/3): How it went from obsolete to world-class https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltnW2kGltHI [3] U.S. Launched 251 Military Interventions Since 1991, and 469 Since ... https://towardfreedom.org/story/archives/americas/u-s-launched-251-military-interventions-since-1991-and-469-since-1798/ [4] Severe Humanitarian Disasters Caused by US Aggressive Wars ... https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1220648.shtml [5] Viral meme says United States has 'invaded' 22 countries in the ... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/31/facebook-posts/viral-meme-says-united-states-has-invaded-22-count/ [6] Foreign interventions by China - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_China [7] Foreign interventions by the United States - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States [8] There are 80 countries that the US has invaded directly ... - Facebook https://www.facebook.com/GeorgeGallowayOfficial/posts/there-are-80-countries-that-the-us-has-invaded-directly-or-with-proxies-since-ww/1257479175746465/ [9] Eight-Nation Alliance - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-Nation_Alliance [10] List of wars involving the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_People's_Republic_of_China
mrgoobster@reddit
In terms of soft power, the US has already fallen to a large degree. Economically and militarily, however, the conditions that made the US a superpower in the first place are still in play: massive territory with no threatening neighbors, natural resources, sea ports on both oceans, technical expertise across many fields. As a consequence, Israel is probably more worried about losing support in the US, rather than the US losing the ability to back Israel.
sluttytinkerbells@reddit
That's a reasonable analysis but the only thing that it misses is the possiblitility of an American civil war.
As we all know America's greatest enemy is itself.
Doctor-Malcom@reddit
The possibility of a classic civil war has diminished here. We are more likely to crumble internally as our institutions fail and are unresponsive to the demands of normal people rather than billionaires. Corruption will only worsen as each person will maximize his own wealth, with the empire continuing to decline.
What will replace DC is a new corporate/network state. We already sense there is more power in corporate boardrooms than the halls of our public offices.
BufferUnderpants@reddit
Besides, it’s pretty crappy to fantasize with millions dying in civil conflict in a country, and it being neutered from becoming non functional, nobody celebrates here when it’s catalyzed in the Middle East. Whatever tyranny could emerge won’t be fair and reasonable to deal with either
mrgoobster@reddit
I don't think a civil war is really possible - at least, not the protracted, self-annihilating conflict of popular imagination. Civilian militias are a non-factor if they go against the US military, so a serious civil war would need to involve half the military rebelling. I can't imagine how that would occur. The military is deliberately organized in such a way that loyalty attaches to the organization, not the individual commanders. Even somebody like Mattis, at the height of his popularity with marines, would never have been able to get any of them to fight against other US forces.
rangecontrol@reddit
not really tho. drones take care of sea ports, huge science brain drain across multiple segments of the goverment. the u.s can't even dictate the iran war.
military might has move pasted tank and carrier and seems like they are in 'lets use it before we lose' mode, war has changed and the u.s is already behind.
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Well, glad you finally know why Israel preaches to its own about their actions being a matter of survival and longevity.
They've made the land their only place and grave, doesn't mean they would lie down so easily.
Also- For snowflakes that easily get triggered easily because I'm explaining why. Please don't bother.
GlassTransition6662@reddit
Meanwhile, Turkey is one of the biggest suppliers of oil to Israel. Helping keep their war machine fueled up.
Mo4d93@reddit
Spain has spoken openly against Israel. China too.
Significant-Ad-7182@reddit
Spain did if I remember correctly.
Appropriate-Arm1377@reddit
When it comes to this issue Ireland grew balls before most of Europe
Lucius_Furius@reddit
Because the GCC countries are more concerned with Iran than Israel, at least their leadership is. the countries Israel is interested in invading/Balkanising are their neighbors + Iran, from an Omani or UAE goverments standup there is very little danger (besides their own citizens hanging them) in working with or at least not against Israel.
Thisconnect@reddit
I'm surprised that they are not more pragmatic. Its been years since their hegemony mean stability for the gulf
kitti-kin@reddit
A big chunk of Saudi is in the projected "greater Israel". But they probably figure that fight wouldn't be any time soon, with Jordan as their buffer zone.
undernoillusions@reddit
Cuba and DPRK have condemned Israel numerous times
kolitics@reddit
I noticed that Iran claimed there were no negotiations and now claim the negotiator was bombed.
Turkey-Scientist@reddit
Which is true. As the article explains, “Kharazi has been seen as a potential peace negotiator in the current conflict […] Iranian officials said Kharazi was attempting to assemble a meeting with U.S. Vice President JD Vance, according to The New York Times.”
Israel is doing an excellent job stopping any from happening in the first place
kolitics@reddit
Yes, so taking the claims of this left leaning media outlet and Iranian officials at face value, I’m not sure this one guy represents a pattern of Israel only targeting Iran’s negotiators.
OptimistPrime7@reddit
So true but I feel like Iran will take out every GCC country in the process ending petrodollar. This is such a serious issue, I feel like American hegemony might seriously end here like Suez Canal crisis back then. To compound things see who is in charge of US.
usefulidiotsavant@reddit
Israel sees full well the American century is ending. So the election of an incompetent, easy to manipulate and senile leader to the White house is perhaps its last great opportunity to bank on the "special relationship" and the quickly waning support of younger Americans for the zionist cause.
They are going for bust deliberately, they don't care about long term consequences for the US, only to be left with the best possible strategic configuration in the new world where they will need to fend for themselves - an Iran leveled by civil war is perhaps the best thing they can hope to achieve.
Forgotlogin_0624@reddit
Agreed. Israel may be out by the end of this war. America is losing, and the popular sentiment is that this was all Israel’s doing. AIPAC may not be able to help this time.
So I see the Lebanon invasion as rather practical as this the last time the US will cover them.
Averagelytalldude@reddit
But even if this war ends with the best possible terms for Israel they will still be left with a weak US, discontent Europe and a hostile Middle East tired of their shenanigans. How is that good for Israel long term?
Forgotlogin_0624@reddit
Long term I don’t think it’s going to go well. Near term it’s something of a win for bibi, which may be as far ahead as anyone is looking.
Doctor-Malcom@reddit
Support for Israel in Western Europe is still very strong, think UK, France, Germany, etc.
Also Israel can take on any of the Arab countries around it militarily; besides, the leadership of all of those countries (I speculate) has been curated by American and Israeli intelligence to be sympathetic to Tel Aviv despite local population’s opposition e.g. Egypt.
Finally, even a weakened US empire is still formidable after ‘collapse’, just like Russia has been after 1991. So for their purposes, Israel’s strategy to go for bust makes sense and they can conquer more real estate in Lebanon for its Jewish citizens.
Ok-Warning-7494@reddit
Israel would lose to Egypt/ Turkey without western resupply. They simply don’t have the industrial base and would run out of munitions.
Genuinely think their strategic outlook is dismal going forward.
Not-reallyanonymous@reddit
Israel doesn’t care. They’ve been playing both sides (mostly through Russia, who’ll likely be a major pole in a multipolar world even after their decline). But what they will have achieved is becoming the regional hegemony.
xinorez1@reddit
Just as planned and ironically promised during his campaign by agent krasnov
Cons are fucking idiots as usual
elihu@reddit
According to the article, we don't know whether it was the US or Israelis who did this strike. It would not be surprising if Israel did this to prevent the US from negotiating some sort of peace deal, but this is the Trump administration we're talking about. They could have ordered the strike themselves for real or imaginary reasons or no reason at all.
bobby_table5@reddit
Netanyahu has been doing that fore decades: he bombed Fatah leaders while financing Hamas.
WannaAskQuestions@reddit
That has been their MO for some time. Absolutely vile and cynical regime.
Ashenveiled@reddit
They literally killed first,second and third person in Iranian hierarchy. And one after another commander of its religious “second army”
reddit_is_geh@reddit
Yes. It's a well established pattern. Israel "coincidentally" assassinates negotiators or VIPs whenever they are engaging in negotiations, or a diplomatic breakthrough is near. Literally it's a well documented and recognized pattern. The closer these "Muslim savages" come to some sort of normalizing agreement, Israel comes up with a justification to kill them, throwing it all back into chaos.
Big_Red_Machine_1917@reddit
I must confess, I'm no expert when it comes to international diplomacy (or anything else for that matter), but I am pretty sure that killing, or attempting to kill, the people you are supposed to be organising negotiations with is generally seen as a bad thing to do.
elihu@reddit
Perfidy is the name for it. I'm not sure what the exact legal boundaries are or if this would qualify.
27Rench27@reddit
So with stuff like this it probably could count literally, but not legally.
Nobody offered to meet this guy for peace talks in a neutral location and then killed him, he wasn’t any more vulnerable during this strike than if he hadn’t been trying to get negotiations started (which is the wartime definition, intentionally faking to make the other side let their guard down)
RevengeWalrus@reddit
I wouldn't be shocked if this was a targeted Israel kill to derail peace talks. They NEED a protracted ground war, their good graces with the U.S. are running thin and a military quagmire would keep us dependent on them.
tankTanking1337@reddit
bruh, what shock are you talking about, Trump said in the interview that he can't disclose the names of Iranians that engage in negotiations, because "they may die". This is exactly what he said would happen, the orange juice immediately sprung to action to sabotage peace efforts.
RevengeWalrus@reddit
Yeah I said I wouldn't be shocked. It's very likely but I don't want to say it definitely happened.
It's hard to not sound like a conspiracy theorist with this shit, y'know?
tankTanking1337@reddit
I'm deep into conspiracies and I didn't expect the worst (Epstein) to turn out as real, same with chemtrails... Besides, this "conspiracy theory" was a CIA psyop to discredit journalists and others whistleblowing on real dark shit, like MK Ultra. but yeah, the rabbit hole goes deep
ChefCurryYumYum@reddit
Sick fucking shit man. I wish I had the powers of Omniman/Superman, I would fly around the world setting a lot of this right. A lot of people are in places of power and very protected and insulated from the fallout of their murderous and bloodthirsty decisions.
Since I'm not going to be developing super powers anytime soon we need to find another way to go after these people.
hussainhssn@reddit
Trash ass Israelis have nothing to offer but death and destruction to anyone that has any sort of humanity and negotiates with them, you legitimately can’t negotiate with terrorists like your average Israeli. You can’t trust these people with basically anything excepting raping and murdering innocent people, that’s legitimately your “normal” IDF soldier at this point which is really to say your average Israeli conscript.
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
I can just imagine, some poor US official going "Finally, they are willing to talk, maybe this nightmare will end, maybe we can-" Then suddenly he hears a sonic boom followed by SHABBAT SHALOM MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
No_Cloud4804@reddit
Netanyahu wants this war to last as long as possible to stay out of prison. He will assassinate any hope for peace and fight to the last american soldier !