Palestinians forced to demolish own homes to make way for Israeli theme park
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Residents of al-Bustan district told to make way for Kings Garden, with knocking down own houses cheaper option
At the bottom of a steep and densely populated valley just below Jerusalem’s old city walls, the earth has been shaken in recent weeks by jackhammers and bulldozers.
These have been the sounds of Jerusalem for decades as the Israeli state has relentlessly sought to stamp a uniformly Jewish identity on to the occupied east of the city, while erasing its Palestinian character.
Typically it is workers for the state and municipality at the wheel of the bulldozers, but in the al-Bustan neighbourhood, in the shadow of the 11th-century al-Aqsa mosque, the clamour is from a more recent development.
It is the sound of Palestinians demolishing their own family homes.
“This is something really hard. This is something bitter,” Jalal al-Tawil said as he watched a tractor he had hired, with a front loader at the front and jackhammer at the back, rip apart the last remnants of the house his father had built, which in turn had been on the site of his grandparents’ home.
The experience of demolishing his own family’s home and history had drained al-Tawil, but it came down to brutal economics. The Jerusalem municipality had told him it would cost him 280,000 shekels (£72,000) if its workers demolished the house. Hiring his own equipment and labour would cost al-Tawil less than a tenth of that.
“Also, if they do it, they will uproot the land and make a complete mess,” he said. For him it was like being given the choice between suicide or being murdered, he said.
More than 57 homes in al-Bustan, part of the larger Silwan district of East Jerusalem, have been demolished in the past two years with at least eight designated for demolition in the next few weeks. On the site a biblical theme park called the Kings Garden is to be built, supposedly where King Solomon took his leisure three millennia ago.
The park is designed to be part of a spreading, largely settler-driven, archaeological project focusing exclusively on Jerusalem’s Jewish past and centred on what has been called the City of David – despite the view of many Israeli archaeologists that the visible remains date to other eras, before and after King David’s iron-age reign.
See also:
- US may ask Israel to put Palestinian tax money toward Trump's Gaza plan, sources say (Reuters)
- They Fled to Safety in Palestinian Territory, Then Settlers Attacked Again • Violent settlers are not merely clearing Palestinians from land under Israel’s control. They are attacking areas where Israel agreed to Palestinian self-governance. (New York Times)
- Israeli Real Estate Expo Advertising West Bank Settlements Returns to NYC • The controversial event and the NYPD’s response to resulting protests present a test for Mayor Zohran Mamdani. (The Intercept)
maporita@reddit
Uncanny parallels to life in South Africa before the end of apartheid, when the townships were burning while the whites doubled down on life as normal, seemingly oblivious to the misery and desperation of the black majority in their midst.
IsNotPolitburo@reddit
Oh Zionists definitely aren't oblivious to the misery of Palestinians, they revel in it.
AppleAtrocity@reddit
They were actually really helpful and friendly to the South African apartheid government.
https://imeu.org/resources/key-issues/fact-sheet-an-overview-apartheid-south-africa-israel/275
AI_moderated_failure@reddit
The nuclear weapons South Africa had were very likely sold to them by Israel. Which is why I always find it funny when they complain about Iran building one.
historicusXIII@reddit
South Africa allowed Israel to test a nuke in their waters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident
Stalinsghoast@reddit
It's always darkly amusing (and I use that word loosely) when Israel complains about Iran's theoretical nuclear weapons program considered Israel's the only one in the middle east aside from Pakistan/Indian to be a nuclear armed state. At least India and Pakistan don't play coy.
AppleAtrocity@reddit
I feel the same about Trump talking about Iran and nukes. Oh they aren't allowed to have any? Why are the USA allowed then? Specificly, since any moral superiority the US had is long dead, if it ever even existed at all.
AI_moderated_failure@reddit
At the very least, the US isn't blatantly breaking the nonproliferation treaties by selling nuclear weapons to ethno states. To date the only instance of a nuclear power straight up transferring weapons to another non nuclear power is Israel and they want to lecture the world on proper use.
HockeyHocki@reddit
Israel didn't give nukes to SA that's a myth, it's purported they offered warheads but they only ever shared tech, just like Russia & Pakistan did with China and N.Korea
AI_moderated_failure@reddit
Not according to the Pretoria archives, it was completely Israeli and South Africa lacked the ability for their own refinement.
HockeyHocki@reddit
No the archives you refer to only revealed the offer. Provide a source for your claim
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Because it’s Zionist, and Zionism is built on a belief that there *should* be different rules for different people.
rattleandhum@reddit
As a South African:
Israeli apartheid has maimed, killed, tortured, abused, corralled and subjugated far more Palestinians than Black south Africans under apartheid. Our own struggle leaders said the same, from Archbishop Desmond Tutu to Mandela himself, who rebuked American policy until his dying day. They saw the west for what it was.
Lets also not forget Apartheid SA's cosy relationship to Israel, the sharing of nuclear secrets, military equipment and also the many Afrikaaners who hastily converted to Judaism and moved to Israel at the end of Apartheid, despite being members of the Calvinist NG Kerk.
meister2983@reddit
Yes, that's because the violence has gotten so much worse. For that matter Palestine has killed at least 10x the number of Jewish civilians since 1990 as all anti apartheid groups killed whites.
On top of it you have basically everyone as an ethno nationalist in this conflict. South Africa might have ended very differently had it but had a large enfranchised Anglo population.
That seems to be a relatively new trend. Though only a couple hundred.
banjosuicide@reddit
Except Israel has a large enough military and big enough backing that they'll be able to complete their genocide.
abzftw@reddit
The zionists looked at history and analysed it as a ‘what went wrong, fix the weak links’
Vs looking back and reflecting on the bad stuff
I-Here-555@reddit
Is the article missing a part where he's actually getting compensated for the land (how much?), or did they really come up with a scheme where they only fine him for not helping destroy his own house?
HockeyHocki@reddit
there no universe in which this guy is paying for his own house to be demolished when he is not receiving compensation for said house in return, this is the Guardian we are talking about so they just completely leave out the bit where the guy agreed to a sum of money for his home
I-Here-555@reddit
Pure conjecture, but I suspect the demolition cost would be deducted from whatever compensation he's getting. It's hard to see how a huge fine for simply not demolishing a house could be enforced against someone without means to pay.
Not saying the compensation is fair or legal (probably not), that's a different issue.
HockeyHocki@reddit
And you are probably right, but the point is the Guardian deliberately avoid this highly relevant bit of info because they simply dont want to publish the fact this guy is receiving compensation, it's shady journalism
I-Make-Maps91@reddit
You haven't actually provided a source that he's being compensated, you just asserted it.
HockeyHocki@reddit
I wasn't asked for a source. They plain is for them to be rehoused in apartment blocks surrounding the new park.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Bustan_(East_Jerusalem)
I-Make-Maps91@reddit
So they aren't being compensated as their homes are being demolished, are you going to fix the misinformation you're spreading?
HockeyHocki@reddit
they are getting new homes, how is that not compensation
I-Make-Maps91@reddit
You have to demolish your entire house (which can include housing for your children and their families as well). There's no money to compensate you for the cost of the building, and in fact if you don't personally demolish the entire thing you'll owe the government tens of thousands of dollars.
I'm exchange, you aren't being given a house, at best there's an apartment you can live in. I think you know damn well you wouldn't consider that compensation.
HockeyHocki@reddit
It wasn't your house in the first place, you could not legally buy or build property there. Lets say you unwittingly bought a stolen car, how much compensation would your government give you if they repossessed it?
Cheesen_One@reddit
East Jerusalem according to International Law is Palestinian Land. Israel illegally is telling Palestinian that they are illegally living and building on their by international law legal land.
Israel obviously occupies everything and can tell anyone anywhere that they don't own their own property, cause they didn't buy it from them first.
HockeyHocki@reddit
International laws are broadstroke principles that do not take into account realities on the ground
Israel is a good example. Yes under international law Israel should remove themselves from West Bank. But play that out, imagine for a second Israel pulled out of the WestBank the same time they did in Gaza.
Hamas would immediately seize full control of the WestBank and now you have a comically evil death cult preparing to carry out Oct 7th from the hills overlooking Israeli cities.
It would be literal suicide for Israel to hand over sovereignty while Hamas are the most popular & powerful faction among them
"But international law"
No, both the Palestinians and the Israeli's recognised in the Oslo accords there needs to be a political solution before there can be a legal one.
In the meantime the defacto sovereign power in the West Bank is Israel, and it will stay that way until palestinians convince them they can live beside them in peace
Cheesen_One@reddit
There is a big difference between:
"Israel needs to maintain a millitary presence in Palestine to fight terrorists" is a long way away from:
"Israel needs to deny Palestinians the right to live on their own property and build a theme park there to fight terrorists".
Israel has 0 explanation to humiliate and harrass Palestinins the way they do. They can fight terrorists perfectly without it.
HockeyHocki@reddit
But that's not what they did, the rule Israel imparted in 1970 barred anyone from building on that land, Israeli or Palestinian, it was designated a public area. The Palestinians ignored it
Cheesen_One@reddit
How is randomly designating stuff in occupied Palestine public property helping fight terrorism???
The only and I mean only moral thing Israel can and is doing in their occupation is fighting terrorism.
Literally everything else is evil and strengthening terrorist recruitment. This included.
HockeyHocki@reddit
?? as the sovereign power they have to administer the place. If traffic lights go out Israeli police direct traffic, that's not to help fight terrorism
Cheesen_One@reddit
The PA has police officers. They can direct traffic.
Israel does not have to and usually does not govern Palestinian Areas. The PA does. Israeli Police governs Settlements in Palestine.
East Jerusalem might be the Exception tho, since they are trying to expel and or incorporate the palestinian population into Israel to make the Annexation official.
HockeyHocki@reddit
Yes & the PA do effectively govern area A entirely as agreed under Oslo, no Israeli permits are needed for building there. It was also agreed under Oslo to defer coming up with a resolution for East Jerusualem, as such it was agreed for the status quo to remain.
then along came the second intifada & the rise of Hamas...and the work towards a political solution ground to a complete halt
sephiroth70001@reddit
Other articles have gone in a bit more detail. It's a incremental fine for having the home built without 'proper permits' which is only issued to Jewish citizens. The same area had houses built without permits that were Jewish and no fines. Two options you can demolish the house out of pocket or do what some other neighbors did and the fines by giving the houses they built to someone Jewish.
HockeyHocki@reddit
You have a source? Ive read the wiki and a couple btselem pieces about it and neither make any reference to jewish homes. What they both reference is "City master plan No.9" which was implemented shortly after the 1967 war, it forbid any further construction in al-Bustan and designated the area a public space
sephiroth70001@reddit
This is the same area that makes wells and rain catchers on Palestinian land illegal. After seeing the water laws in Israel I'm shocked they don't charge and imprison the person for some bullshit "neglect" land laws after making them destroy it, just like rain catchers for collecting Israeli rainwater. I really doubt there is any compensation coming from the settler colony.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
No, there no chance of any compensation. The land is “rezoned” into a park and Palestinians still technically own it but lose all control and access to it. It’s expropriation by stealth.
In the West Bank Israel doesn’t even pretend, it’s just outright expropriation: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-begins-seizing-1800-dunams-of-west-bank-land-to-develop-archaeological-site/amp/
mrgoobster@reddit
Even a penniless person fears a fine if his civil rights are uncertain. The fine becomes an excuse to imprison and brutalize him.
Not-reallyanonymous@reddit
I’m not sure about this specific instance, but it’s well established that Israel will invalidate deeds of Palestinian land under Jewish claims of historic ownership, usually a vague reference to Jewish ownership in the Ottoman Empire — to defend from such claims, Palestinians usually need to be able to trace back deeds to the Ottoman Empire as well, or it will be considered insufficient to prove valid Palestinian ownership. The courts have made it almost impossible for Palestinians to prove their own ownership in cases like this. Basically if a Jew wants your land, it will be their land. And there won’t be compensation.
cannibaltom@reddit
It seems humiliation is part of their objectives.
ArthurPeabody@reddit
I'd have thought they'd make 'Palestinians destroying their own homes' an attraction.
Shady_bookworm51@reddit
Yea he isn't getting compensated, that would be antisemitic dont you know?
boilpoil@reddit
Normal rules of eminent domain would have you think the state would compensate him for this. Even in traditionally authoritarian regimes like China, you get some sort of compensation (fair or not is another discussion entirely) if the government wants something to do with your home/land.
Israel, on the other hand...
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Why would Israel compensate him? The idea is to destroy Palestinians’ houses and expel them.
brydeswhale@reddit
You’re funny, bro.
BertnErnie32@reddit
Looks like this is on the Israelis side of the green line. If you find that Israelis building over the green line a problem and their homes should destroyed, then you shouldn't have an issue with this either.
Separately this is not a "theme park" it's an archeological dig site and the post is completely misrepresenting that.
enilea@reddit
How?? I keep looking at maps and it looks well within East Jerusalem.
Naurgul@reddit (OP)
Is Israel doing that? If there's no equitable exchange of "over the line" buildings, why bring it up?
From the article:
On the site a biblical theme park called the Kings Garden is to be built, supposedly where King Solomon took his leisure three millennia ago.
The park is designed to be part of a spreading, largely settler-driven, archaeological project focusing exclusively on Jerusalem’s Jewish past and centred on what has been called the City of David – despite the view of many Israeli archaeologists that the visible remains date to other eras, before and after King David’s iron-age reign.
Aviv Tatarsky, a senior researcher at Ir Amim, a group advocating for an equitably shared Jerusalem, says al-Bustan encapsulates the erasure of Palestinians from both geography and history.
“Israel is not willing to recognise the bi-national, multi-ethnic, multicultural reality of Jerusalem and it is wiping out first and foremost Palestinians – but really anything that is not Jewish, and then glossing it over with this Disneyfied nonsense,”
redridingoops@reddit
"Archeological" lol.
Is this is what passes for actual history in Israel, might as well make it Lord of the Rings themed, it's a better fiction at least.
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Fun lie, I'm betting you just thought nobody would actually check that.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
I love how every Zionist scrambles for excuses as to why Palestinians should lose their land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem yet somehow never ask why no biblical theme parks are being built in West Jerusalem. Is it because Israel isn’t interested in taking land from Jews, only Palestinians?
pasher5620@reddit
Israelis building over the green line is illegal colonialism. They are stealing land that does not belong to them. In this case, they are ALSO stealing land from Palestinians as they are ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING JERUSALEM. They have no right to that land and are simply using their military power to further ethnically cleanse Palestinians from land they’ve lived on for generations.
HockeyHocki@reddit
Lived on for generations? this land was a bunch of trees prior to 1967. And it's not ethnic cleansing if they are being rehoused in apartment blocks around the park ffs. There was genuine ethnic cleansing in East Jerusalam alright though, every jew was expelled by Jordan in 1948
Veritoss@reddit
Smgdh yeah and north america was empty, completely devoid of natives, when the same savage European settlers began colonizing North America a few centuries ago.
HockeyHocki@reddit
Historically jews lived in this place, hence the archeology site you dingus🤦♂️
TraditionalGap1@reddit
If you actually looked at a map you'd see that it is not on the Israeli side of the green line.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Jerusalem existed before Judaism became a religion. The current focus on Judaising jerusalem, destroying all its actual history, archaeology and current demographics in favour of presenting a distorted and incorrect history, is the usual self-serving combination of lies and violence anyone who understands Israel expects from it.
Israel is particularly vile in this regard - it boasts that it fosters equality but systematically ethnically cleanses non-Jews from Jerusalem using a combination of racist institutions and enforcement. Then it whines that people libel it by repeating the truth.
IronBENGA-BR@reddit
Worst part is that they are sending clear signs they won't stop with non-jews.
Israeli society don't just discriminate by religious afilliation, they also discriminate by ethnicity and origin. Israel is fundamentally a caste system where foreign workers are essentially disposable and jewish populations from non-caucasian and poorer origins are pushed down on the pole, to the point Ethiopian Jewish immigrants were being subjected to forced sterilization. As soon as the non-jews and "arabs" are completely off they will start openly segregating and even ethnically cleansing non-white jewish populations and non-compliant and anti-zionist orthodox jewish groups.
This is one of the key reasons some analysts and scholars believe that Israel is bound to completely come crumbling down even if they somehow manage to fulfill their territorial expansion plans, but we might not even need to see that far ahead: In 2024 a retired Maj. General of the IDF openly warned that Israel was being led into disaster in Gaza, and earlier this year he came out again saying that Israel might actually collapse before reaching it's centennial, citing problems like global isolation and a "deep hatred between social groups".
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
You’re right, but the strong hatred runs both ways. After decades of racism towards “Mizrahi” Jews , they make up the largest Jewish ethnic group today (ignoring mixed-descent). They will fight back. It will be a bloodbath.
IronBENGA-BR@reddit
Holy crap, let's add "potential civil war" to that list of possible reasons for collapse
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Well, we can always hope that people see reason and stop the extreme rhetoric…
theAntColonizer@reddit
The houses were built illegally, without permits.They are demolishing their own homes to avoid paying the associated fines.
That being said, this is 100% targeting Palestinians for being Palestinians. No actions are taken to punish illegally built houses owned by Jewish citizens. In some cases, the fines and the demolition process were stopped when the houses transfered from Palestinian ownership to Jewish ownership. Also, getting a building permit as a Palestinian is not impossible, but it might as well be with how hard it is.
Shady_bookworm51@reddit
Yea this Permits claim is pure nonsense, the Israeli government in all its racist glory very rarely gives permits to those they consider lesser, being Arabs in general. People still need to live even if it is inconvenient for the Israelis.
kolitics@reddit
“They built without permits because they weren’t issued permits”
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Hey bud, what happens to those "illegal settlements" the Israelis keep building without permits? Oh right the government turns them into official cities because they're Jewish.
Treadwheel@reddit
"They were left no option but to build without permits after the apartheid administration denied them on the basis of the regime's longstanding ethnic cleansing policy for Jerusalem"
photochadsupremacist@reddit
"They built without permit because they live in an apartheid state that doesn't issue permits to people of a certain ethnicity"
photochadsupremacist@reddit
"They built without permit because they live in an apartheid state that doesn't issue permits to people of a certain ethnicity"
Shady_bookworm51@reddit
permits that are denied them because they aren't Jewish as the israeli don't even need permits to build, most of the time they are legalized retroactively.
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Their fucking country was seized from them, nothing the Israeli state imposes on them is "legal".
PartySr@reddit
What a joke. Celebrating their "history" by building a park on the land owned by the Palestinians. Forcing the Palestinians to destroy their own homes too because it wasn't enough to steal their land.
Erasing every trace of the Palestinians to celebrate their genocide is more fitting for that park.
NewAccountEachYear@reddit
~~Theme park~~ Theme camp
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
That is a brilliant way of putting it!
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