Safe_Hope1521

Ice - but starts at $120k according to Car and Driver. I just can’t justify anything over $100k

The most interesting thing about this review for me is the comments around how quiet the Odyssey is at highway speed. Historically Honda vehicles are very loud at 70 mph.

Car & Driver states that the 330e is being dropped for 2025?? I sort of wonder if the electric range had increased to 50 or so (USA testing) that BMW feared it would hurt their ‘I’ car sales. In other words- it had become too good.

Comparing the new Type R to say a few years old M2 - which is more comfortable/livable/fun as a daily? I think I would miss the rear wheel drive drift/hooliganism of M2/240i vs fwd of Type R. But I love the Honda day in day out reliability. Beat on it and it responds with - May I have another. Truth is, I just don’t have access to a track. Several hours away and requires all sorts of planning and memberships - therefore- won’t happen.

Bummer is, it’s not Honda, it’s the dealer pulling this crap. But it kills the brand for a short term gain. Honda should interfere if they can.

Like the Civic R - they won’t make many and the dealers will gouge customers. A local dealer sold a type R last week for $14k over MSRP. They can keep it.