The know it all gamer.
Posted by TheLightningCount1@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 27 comments
This tale involves probably the worst raid lead I ever had in ffxiv and his know it all friend who kept countermanding the advice I was giving him. I wont get into the reason he was the worst raid lead I ever had. Just know he was a bad tank, and a bad raid lead.
The tech issue was complex for him. Whever he plays ffxiv in discord, his game freezes up. He has no issues if he is not in discord. He uses a set of senheiser (sp?) headset and a dac6. I asked him to bypass the dac6 one day as a test.
He said he did this, but did not. Issue occurred. His best friend, and girl he just happened to be sleeping with, both were telling him I was an idiot and had no clue what I was talking about. The issue HAD to be video and not audio.
Even though the issue ONLY occurs when he is in discord and playing ffxiv.
Second solution. Turn off hardware acceleration.
He did not do this. Ill give you one reason why.
Third freeze happened mid raid. He asked me what he could do. I gave him team viewer and checked event viewer once connected.
I used a 3rd party website to read the vent viewer log, as I was too lazy to look it up for a raid member, and it showed a flurry of audio errors and permissions errors right at the freeze.
I check discord. Hardware acceleration is on. I turned it off. I turned off all audio enhancements in his headphone settings. I set the dac6 control panel to use 24b 48khz, windows sound settings for the dac6 to use 24b 48khz as he had set it to 32b 48khz.
FFXIV can cause a freeze if there is a mismatch.
I turned off exclusive control for the dac6 in legacy control panel sound options and then had him restart.
Rest of night no freezes. Rest of raid week. No freezes. Two whole weeks of no freezing.
Then his friend got ahold of his system. Ill give you one guess what happened next raid night.
I asked him if discord hardware acceleration is on, or if he turned on the audio enhancements in his headphone software. Yes to both.
I told him to turn it off and turn off the audio enhancements while using ffxiv. You can turn on your custom mixer when listening to your music after, but turn it off for ffxiv. Its causing issues.
Two weeks later.
His friend, the know it all, got involved again and told him that the changes I made obviously did not work as his game crashed on him.
His game crashed from using mods and Lightless Sync updating in the middle of limsa with 40+ people near him he was synced to... But thats just my opinion.
I joined discord and heard his friend saying I had no clue what I was talking about and that he should just kick me and replace me with his astro friend.
The static was doing Tea and just gotten past BJCC.
I hear hear his friend say this and basically tell him dont bother. I will leave on my own. I send a DM to the raid lead telling him his friend is an idiot and if he wants the issue fixed, to leave the changes I made alone.
His response was to send me a HR approved team removal message a day later. Said the group came together and made a decision... yadda yadda. Then a very snarky message that I should just give up on TEA.
I was going to leave it alone. But I am petty. That message to just give up on TEA?
So I cleared the fight 3 days later and just HAPPENED to be near the exact spot he likes to stand in Limsa on his server with my shiny new legend title.
The funniest part. After he saw me in game and said in his discord. "Lightning got his Tea Clear. Yeah he is standing right by me in limsa." People in discord called me out. "He totally did that on purpose to rub it in our face that he cleared."
Before he could answer... He froze up live on twitch again. His friend, the one who constantly counteracted everything I did, suggested he turn off hardware acceleration in discord and turn off audio effects in his headset control panel software.
Miles_Saintborough@reddit
FF14 players can be some of the dumbest motherfuckers around. Savage and Ultimate raiders have their share, but everyone else can be equally special in normal content.
tashkiira@reddit
Yep. A whole lot of the 'Mechanics are for cars hurdy hurr' crowd. having said that, I ignore mechanics if I'm sufficiently overleveled for a fight unless the fight's mechanic is forced (Ifrit's Infernal Nails, for instance).
Miles_Saintborough@reddit
As a healer main, I get tilted when people are hit multiple times by mechanics they should have learned since 2.0
tashkiira@reddit
You'd laugh at me. I got Sophia Extreme for WT today. 'sure, how hard can it be to solo it?' The damage output was fine, it's the mechanics that had my Scholar tuchus slapped silly..
AlaskanDruid@reddit
I would say this applies to the community of every mmo ran by a corrupt company.. so.. FFXIV, WOW, GW2, New World, EVE Online, etc, etc.
tachycardicIVu@reddit
And we still have people showing up in Expert roulette saying “im new plz dont flame” like you’ve had HOW LONG to learn your goddamn skills?!
Salamiflame@reddit
I remember having a raid lead once who refused to adjust their rotation even when it would make their add explode in TEA. Said person was one of the mentors on the Balance discord, the biggest source of optimization information for the game's community, too. Made me trust individual people there much less.
SavvySillybug@reddit
Fun thing to do with people like that is to sneakily give them suggestions, just feed them some dots to connect. They'll connect the dots and think it was their idea, and they'll proudly do exactly what you want them to do. And then brag about your idea, thinking it was theirs. They get to feel smarter than they are, and you get the satisfaction of a solved problem with zero fighting about it.
I generally try to avoid people like that, but when I can't, manipulating them is a fun alternative.
J_Landers@reddit
Funner thing to do: stop supporting them.
SavvySillybug@reddit
I generally try to avoid people like that, but when I can't, manipulating them is a fun alternative.
Trinitykill@reddit
Yeah they sound like awful people to be around. Don't feed their shitty behaviour. Have some self respect, ditch them and get better friends.
Ravensqueak@reddit
It's always some motherfucker that knows better but can't actually provide an alternate solution.
They don't want the problem fixed, they want to be right.
TheLightningCount1@reddit (OP)
Yeah. This was the guy who kept interrupting me when I would explain a mechanic as well in TEA. You dont know how many times he would interrupte me and then say the same frickin thing.
Salamiflame@reddit
I remember back when the fight was current, the group I was in kicked me because we hit 44% enrage on phase 2... They blamed the party comp, when it very much was not the Dancer that was the issue.
I did also have some difficulties with p1, specifically with the strat they were doing I literally could not see the Embolus going towards Liquid and would often run into it while feeding my doll to it.
Your story reminds me a bit more of the second group I had, where the drg would CONSTANTLY kill their doll, refusing to do anything other than the "Balance-Approved Optimal DRG rotation for TEA". That group never got past p2 either, despite more than half the party having already cleared. It made Mr wonder back then how they cleared, but, looking back on it they valued their parse more than clearing.
Always satisfying showing people like that up by clearing before them after they kick you.
warlock415@reddit
"You know what they call people who parse gray on their Ultimate clear? Legends."
Centimane@reddit
Whenever I've run into those my tech support runs out.
I'm not normally jumping to give tech support, but I will if someone's in need. But if there's a shouting match to give tech support? Nah, I'll just leave it alone.
TararaBoomDA@reddit
Let me guess. His name is Leeroy Jenkins.
ThirdWelles@reddit
Was not expecting to see 14 mentioned in a TFTS post
AngryCod@reddit
"Oh, ok. You obviously know more about this than I do, so I'll let you troubleshoot it on your own."
I cannot imagine why you would continue to try to help someone who clearly doesn't want it.
AGTS10k@reddit
Thanks for the tale! Must really suck to be kicked because of such insufferable people.
You should've probably decipher the lingo of the game though. I asked an AI about this, pastingthe response here just in case
Also from the same AI: "static" is a fixed raid group, and Limsa is a big city where players hang around.
lifelongfreshman@reddit
A bit more context from a player.
The AI is technically right on everything. A static group is your standard raid group, and it's in contrast to a pug, or a pick-up group. Statics got their name because they're a preset roster of players who agree to meet up on a preset day for a preset span of time in order to clear a raid.
Limsa is the short name for one of the starting cities, and it's the most popular city because its market board/auction house/player shop is closer to its entrance than in any of the other cities in the game. People tend to hang out here as a result, especially when they want to show off something cool they got.
TEA, or The Epic of Alexander, is part of a series of so-called Ultimate raids. These are the hardest difficulty raids, with savage being the next-hardest and the extreme difficulty is below that. For a sense of how they relate, if Ultimates are at a 10 on a scale from 1 to 10, then savage raids are at about a 5 or a 6, while an extreme fight is about a 3 or a 4. The massive spike in difficulty tends to take people entirely by surprise, and it tends to cause groups to fall apart when they can't progress because egos get in the way.
Without getting too much more into it, raids in the game require 8 people to attempt. In FFXIV, they're simple boss rushes, where Savage raids pit players against a single boss while Ultimate raids will have the players fight several bosses in a row back-to-back in a marathon fight. When discussing the fight, players break Ultimates down into phases, with each individual boss fight within the Ultimate typically being its own phase. Where a savage-difficulty raid boss can take anywhere from 6 to 9 minutes to kill depending on the boss and your group, an Ultimate encounter can take anywhere from 12 to 20 minutes. During that time, anyone messing up is generally enough to force your party to have to start over at minute 0.
I could go on, but I think this is enough context to understand everything. Feel free to ask about anything, because I find this stuff fascinating and frankly I miss being able to play.
AGTS10k@reddit
Thank you for such an extended elaboration, it was a cool read! An MMORPG world is truly a fascinating gaiming experience, huh. Wish I had enough concentration to reach the level cap in any one I ever tried 😅 My most were 30-something level in AION (x1.5 free server) and 20-something in TERA back in early 10s lol.
I had friends who told me tales of killing raid bosses in Lineage II too, but I didn't like it.
Aervanath@reddit
Thanks for this! Had no idea what was going on since I never played FFXIV.
P5ychokilla@reddit
Oh God, First they invaded TechSupportGore now here. We're doomed.
ACatsBed@reddit
I had to do a double take for what sub this was in. Congrats on the TEA clear, and he deserved you rubbing it in his face.
TheLightningCount1@reddit (OP)
Each and every time I have been unceremoniously kicked form a raid group, I went on to clear like 1 week later and all but 1 group ended up disbanding before clearing.
I have been playing since ARR, raiding since coils t10-t13 and have been kicked from 6 raid groups. Technically 9 but 2 of those were literally "You cant quit, you are fired" moments, and the other was them telling me I was being replaced. Literally 2 months after we stopped reclearing and I left the discord.
Ok_Salt_9925@reddit
I have no idea what this is all about but being petty is awesome :D
I once got kicked out of a race team in a racing simulator where we would do 4 hour races because "I didn't practice enough". No, motherfucker, my kid was 6 months old and I cannot allocate evenings away like I said.
Got kicked out of the team, guy who did it proceeded to crash on lap 3. That was a good feeling, I tell ya.