Coworker used her pc at 400% zoom for 3 days
Posted by jdrelentless@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 260 comments
Not IT, just the dev everyone treats like IT because I "know computers." Standard stuff.
Last week my coworker comes over and asks if I can take a look at her machine. Says "something happened" and everything's huge. Not great detail but okay.
Go to her desk. Her screen is zoomed in to an absurd degree. Her recycle bin icon is the size of a coffee mug on screen. She can see maybe 3-4 icons at a time and she's been panning around with the mouse to find things.
First thing I check is resolution. Nope, 1920x1080. Fine. Then I notice the magnifier icon sitting in her system tray. She somehow hit Win and + at the same time (probably reaching for something) and turned on Windows Magnifier. Zoomed to somewhere around 350%.
Win+Esc. Done. Screen snaps back to normal.
She goes "HOW did you do that." As if I'd unlocked some secret admin menu.
Best part: she'd been working that way for three days. She figured out how to get to Outlook and her spreadsheets by panning around and just... adapted. Never put in a ticket, never asked anyone. Three entire workdays of navigating her computer through a keyhole.
I asked why she waited so long. She said she thought she broke something and didn't want to get in trouble.
She's 34.
no-but-wtf@reddit
I’ve had someone ask why their phone went all big.
Turned out they specifically meant the font size in their text messages. Yep … two finger zoom gesture fixed it.
“But how did you know that would work?”
“I didn’t, and if it hadn’t worked, I’d have checked the settings menu. It won’t explode if you try something that doesn’t work.”
“Wow, you’re really magical with these things. You have a gift.”
No, I just have more than five functioning brain cells and I’m not afraid of doing something “wrong””…
mathologies@reddit
https://xkcd.com/627/
Reminds me of an xkcd
HaroldTheScarecrow@reddit
Many years ago I had this printed out and taped above my desk...and I was still treated like a wizard. Even when you show them the recipe, it's still arcane ritual and spellcraft
no-but-wtf@reddit
I will literally google for answers in front of people using their computer. But even being able to judge which answers look likely to be relevant seems to be witchcraft to some.
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
The real skill is knowing what to type into google.
NotYetReadyToRetire@reddit
That's the old Google skill (still really valuable!); the new Google skill is being able to recognize and ignore all of the paid placements and ads to get to the answers that used to be the top 1 or 2 answers instead of being buried under all their crap these days.
lysanderate@reddit
The new Google skill is putting Reddit at the end of the query
ur_opinion_is_wrong@reddit
No, that’s also old tech. Now you just barf your question into AI.
NewUserWhoDisAgain@reddit
The dreaded
user: Deleted
OP: Thanks that worked.
You: WHAT DID IT SAY!? WHAT. DID. IT. SAAAAY!
androshalforc1@reddit
I had this a couple of weeks ago, i reached a point and it felt like it was soft locked.
Googled it and found a Reddit post from 9 months ago, same problem same location, no specific solution just reload from previous checkpoint and try again.
Did that multiple times, didn’t work, pressed and held every individual key on the keyboard, didn’t work. Dug into the menues. Found manual aim middle mouse button. Oh that does something.
Added a reply to the post essentially saying i know it’s an old post but here’s the actual solution. Two posts since saying thank you.
slutty_lifeguard@reddit
I don't understand the people who don't like when people respond to old posts. I like that about forums, that you can click onto a thread and see progress over years sometimes.
I clicked on a thread before
NewUserWhoDisAgain@reddit
I try to do the same but sometimes the replies are turned off.
masterventris@reddit
I always return to any Reddit help threads I have posted and leave the actual answer or solution that worked.
More than once I have found my own post again when trying to remember how to fix something!
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
https://m.xkcd.com/979/
lunarwolf2008@reddit
both are useful. though really, google is kinda crap. i only use it on my work computer since im stuck with chrome or edge
kWazt@reddit
I'm lazy too, but you can change your default search engine that works from the address/search bar in settings.
ThePretzul@reddit
Sure you can, but if it’s like my work computer almost anything like that which you change will be lost when the computer restarts.
I can’t even change what’s pinned to my taskbar because it resets on restart. Absolutely infuriating tbh
kWazt@reddit
Holy shit, I thought I had it bad in my Zscaler and CrowdStrike padded environment.
ThePretzul@reddit
Zscalar makes me die inside on a daily basis.
I am working on an app that needs to communicate with devices on the local subnet via DDS communications. Zscalar does NOT like these UDP connections one bit.
To access the codebase for my app, I need to have Zscalar turned on because the app must be built on a company server (can’t be built on my local machine). To access the device my app is supposed to talk to I need to have Zscalar turned off, because it throws a shit fit.
To turn Zscalar on and off requires going through the process of obtaining local admin permissions each and every time it needs to be toggled back off. Nearly half of my workday is spent in this process because of that.
kWazt@reddit
That. Seems. Excessive.
ThePretzul@reddit
Oh it is, very much so.
IT department doesn't care though, as far as they're concerned the system is working as intended.
SavvySillybug@reddit
So what do you use at home and how does being at work prevent you from using that same solution?
25toten@reddit
The internet is unusable without ad/script blockers. Adblock + ublock origin have been a phenomenonal combo the past decade for me. I use brave browser on mobile which has both of those built in.
Pro tip: Youtubes mobile site on brave blocks all ads. Haven't seen any in many years.
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
It is definitely harder to find the result you want these days, though I (sadly) still find google gives me better resaults than other search engines I've tried.
ANGLVD3TH@reddit
I found DDG to be roughly equal experience. Worse in a vacuum, but the enshitification dragged Google down to roughly the same. I've since gone to Kagi. Imo, it's not as good as Google was at its best, but is generally a bit better than it today. It isn't free, but I'd rather pay a small amount and not be the product. I do miss the little dash Google brings up when searching for a nearby business. But it's one small niche I don't miss too badly, and I can always switch to Google if I really need it for one search.
1oftodayslucky10000@reddit
This is something I'll never understand. Why do so many people struggle with putting relevant words into a search bar? I know soo many people who'll spend quite a while looking for answers on Google without finding anything, and when I take a look at their search it'll just be the most generic top level word without any other information about their specific problem?? I'm not even talking about error codes or specific hardware. What I'm talking about is literally stuff like "windows 11 randomly reboots" vs "windows". It honestly drives me mad.
My partner and I both work in IT and I'm always baffled watching him search for something. He's not quite as bad as many other people (obviously, or he wouldn't last in IT), but man, sometimes it's SO hard to stay quiet and just let him do his thing.
My former best friend literally used me as their personal Google though because she just couldn't figure out how to find anything herself. Shed try, but most of the time it would end with her sending me a text asking if I know xyz, because she couldn't find anything on Google. Most of the time I didn't know xyz. But when googling myself, it'd be the very first answer 99,9% of the time. 😐
Geminii27@reddit
Because they haven't spent enough time reading enough relevant web pages on all kinds of things to know what keywords would count as 'relevant' for their searches.
Most people just... don't automatically categorize/index/analyze the information they run across that way.
ThePretzul@reddit
It’s not that.
Many people are just genuinely bad at evaluating what the problem is they are trying to solve. They know it isn’t working, but they clicked the X to close the error box that popped up too fast to even realize it was an error and then did that again the next two times they tried and it didn’t work like it was supposed to.
Genuinely 90% or more of tech problems people have come to me for help with could be solved if they actually read the error message. It’s to the point where my mom will pre-emptively tell me she didn’t read the error when she first texts/calls me about a problem - she KNOWS that will always be the first question I ask (“What did the pop up you clicked away say?”) but she still genuinely cannot stop herself from doing it all the same.
Beyond that even when there’s an actual person they’re talking to they still can’t clearly articulate the actual problem. “My computer doesn’t work” turns into “It turns on, but it messes up when running” turns into “My spreadsheet is broken” which eventually you find out is actually “I tried to use Xcel to send an email and the other person didn’t get it” or “I tried to use Xcel as a database and was struck down by the heavens for my crimes”.
stefanica@reddit
I do wish error messages were universally selectable, so you can search for a long string easily.
MissRachiel@reddit
Thank you for explaining it this way. It finally clicked. I am grandma years old, retired from tech work, and I could never quite articulate the why of how some folks preferred to call me, watch me google their weird problem and fix it, rather than doing the same thing for themself.
Geminii27@reddit
Some people aren't confident in themselves. Some people have just gone through their entire lives wanting other people to fix everything for them. Some people crave interaction enough to try and have another person turn up rather than tackling a thing themselves.
Whatever the reason, it's usually a pain to be the person being constantly called in, unless you're also a socialization-craver who doesn't mind getting their schedule upended all the time.
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
And having the persistence and brainpower to think, "Hmmm, 'windows 11 randomly reboots' didn't yield any useful results. I wonder what I'll get if I try 'windows 11 randomly restarts'."
.
Bingo.
Suicicoo@reddit
because they don't know what to write? "This thing there doesn't do what I want it to" would be yielding no* results.
most people probably don't know 3 of those 4 "words"...
Friendly-Advantage79@reddit
That is 85% of the job done.
25toten@reddit
The real skill is knowing how to type something into Google
captainzigzag@reddit
My father in law knows how to type “google” into google so he can go to google.
I wish I was making this up.
Johjac@reddit
My mother can't type anything, won't even try. I've got her using voice to text for YouTube and Google, baby steps.
The problem is all of her searches on google look like this "hey google hello search white kitchen chairs with vinyl seats or maybe fabric but not the kind with a bar on the floor thank you google".
NewUserWhoDisAgain@reddit
Unironic, talking to Google like the onboard computer on Starfleet vessels.
MrRiski@reddit
Better or worse she may do better with an AI assistant 😂
JJinPDX@reddit
That breaks the Internet.
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
With two fingers, and a great deal of downward force.
AllesK@reddit
It’s called Google-fu.
H0t4p1netr33S@reddit
Error code OR problem behavior + Reddit OR stackoverflow
CaptOblivious@reddit
Google has been enshitfied, use duckduck instead.
Dramatic_Mixture_877@reddit
Qwant ...
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
I generally do, but find it to be even worse for many searches.
SavvySillybug@reddit
Unironically one of the few genuine uses of AI.
Tell it in human words what your problem is and it'll come up with a solution. And even if it did not come up with the right solution, it's probably just given you several magic words to put into Google so that you can find the real solution.
cantreasonwithstupid@reddit
I had to explain to uni students two years ago how to google things to find reference images, photos, old newspapers etc etc...... I decided I no longer wanted to teach that class after that.
no-but-wtf@reddit
I attended a class on how to search at university. Because it was 25 years ago and academic journals had only just gone online and most students were new to the concept of Boolean operators. It did not cover how to identify if the result was what you needed, because we were expected to be capable of that one weird skill called “thinking” …
Neeerdlinger@reddit
Yep, I took me a while to realise that being able to sort through the answers to find the relevant ones, and often using the info you find to further refine your searches, is a skill that a lot of people don't possess.
For most cases, someone has generally gone through the same process as you before and found the answer. It's just up to you to find it again.
djshiva@reddit
The sad thing is, this used to be the same way we had to find things in library card catalogs and ask questions at libraries, just...MUUUUCH SLOOOOWER.
People are mostly incurious and convinced that you have to be an expert to even TRY to understand things. The learned incompetence is REAL.
25toten@reddit
I regularly tell my IT team, "they think you're performing witchcraft".
With how central phones and computers have become to daily life for most people, it genuinely bugs me how so many are completely illiterate despite using them for hours every single day.
You could say the same about people with cars though. Admittedly I'm not the best at mechanical stuff, but I'm not afraid to research what the issue is and have learned how to do all sorts of maintenance on my motorcycle.
MadMonksJunk@reddit
http://www.catb.org/\~esr/jargon/html/V/voodoo-programming.html
WitchQween@reddit
There seems to be some overlap between people who are tech literate and people who can fix their own cars. The problem solving process is the same.
ThePretzul@reddit
That’s exactly what it is. It is problem solving, and it’s both a learned skill and something that is very applicable across all aspects of life
Before my wife and I built a house I didn’t know all that much about plumbing or septic systems besides the very basic concepts. I had an EE degree for general electricity knowledge but with a concentration on embedded systems not anything to do with the power grid. I still did all of the plumbing, septic, and electrical work for our house because I preferred to spend a month or two doing my research and building it better than minimum code requirements instead of spending an extra $50,000 to get something that just barely passes code (maybe).
The first thing is to simply be able to precisely articulate the problem you are facing. For example if you asked somebody to plumb in a toilet they would simply say that they don’t know how. They haven’t learned the process to identify what it is they don’t yet know (how are toilets plumbed, what parts/tools do you need, how do you connect pieces of pipe, how do you set a toilet onto a wax ring, etc.). It’s a self-terminating thought, they don’t know and they don’t have somebody there to teach them and change that.
It’s this process of self-directed learning that people do not grasp, or the spark of curiosity that leads somebody to begin down that path of questions to be answered in the first place. It’s a learned skill to identify what is actually happening in precise terms, and it’s a learned skill to ask question/s about that which leads to more clarifying questions about the initial answer/s.
djshiva@reddit
It takes very little skill to scroll through social media. They don't learn, they just do the one or two things they know how to do. Anything outside of that is magic.
LupercaniusAB@reddit
Yeah, that’s a thing that happened with me. I’ve been fairly, well not anti-car, but uninterested in ICEs most of my life. I went about 18 years without owning one. At the same time my old knees were getting worse and I was having a hard time riding my bicycle up our steep hill. Eventually I ended up with a motorcycle. And now I’m fixing lots of minor things with YouTube and a desire not to pay the US$190 an hour shop rate for changing my oil or replacing the clutch cable.
Kiyae1@reddit
“It’s a secret magical practice known as ‘troubleshooting’ and it’s an ancient and unholy art.”
PendragonDaGreat@reddit
Yeah, maybe if I were trying to find the right incantation to throw at ffmpeg. But souch of the tech support experience is doing with "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"
HoangGoc@reddit
It's wild how some people just accept a frustrating setup instead of asking for help. you'd think a simple fix would be worth the effort to avoid days of hassle
tslnox@reddit
It doesn't stop being magic just because you know how it works. -- Terry Pratchett
MCPhssthpok@reddit
Problem is, there's an even shorter flowchart which is just "Act helpless and get someone else to do it".
JanB1@reddit
r/ruleXK34
OmEqualsMC2@reddit
Former tech support Network Admin. I have this printed and framed in my home office. Absolutely the truth.
blolfighter@reddit
Spelled 'condolences' wrong.
thelovinsteveful@reddit
Then on the flip side, you also have this xkcd
https://xkcd.com/763/
LeftOn4ya@reddit
Yea except too many people are too proud to follow:
-Goatllama-@reddit
How is the alt text always perfection
SausageMcMerkin@reddit
I was in an interview for an IT-adjacent position, and they asked my approach for learning new software. I basically said this, and they looked at me like I had two heads.
Nine-LifedEnchanter@reddit
Xkcd is always relevant
philbass85@reddit
There's always an xkcd, and for that we are thankful.
virtueavatar@reddit
Read the bottom left part of that flowchart
PineStateWanderer@reddit
I just start with Google and go from there
Wild__Card__Bitches@reddit
IT here, for someone that doesn't know how to change the font size on their phone, I'd actually prefer if they didn't just try random shit. They will not be able to explain what they did and fixing it becomes more difficult. If it's a personal device, have at it, if it's a work device just put in a ticket.
BeneficialShame8408@reddit
we have a user who used to work at the front desk with a unique phone setup. if she had an issue, we would say WAIT FOR US, but every single time, she would pull the whole thing apart and not remember where anything went. putting it together was a huge pain in the ass. every time, we would tell her not to ever do that again, but she'd do it the next time, too. i think one time she either tried plugging in her headphones into the phone or tried plugging the earpiece jack into her laptop, i can't remember which, but she called me down to like...force them in or something. they just weren't compatible lol.
she's now in a cubicle with a simpler phone that she can't tear apart. she still does random stuff and doesn't remember what she did, though, so recreating the issue with her is really hard unless it's an SOP thing.
Mobile_Sandwich1404@reddit
Asking something not connected to the topic. Grammar-wise, which is correct? Someone that OR Someone who. Many decades ago, in school (in India) we were taught 'who' refers to a 'person' and 'that' refers to a 'thing'. Please note this query is for my learning only.
LupercaniusAB@reddit
I’m American, and I think you’re probably correct. However, I see the word “that” as addressing the ACTION or randomly pressing things. Grammatically, it is probably wrong, but it may be the reason it’s being used there. But yeah, should be “who”. I don’t even remember being taught that, but I’m old as fuck.
Ash_chr@reddit
I might be incorrect but as a native english speaker, this is how I've always understood it. "Who" would be typically correct when referring to a specific person, and "which" for specific plural or a group, however when referring more generally, "that" would be correct.
EX:
Ana, who doesn't know the specifics...
The FDA, which is the Food & Drug Administration...
Those people, the ones that threw the ball.../Those people that threw the ball...
Wild__Card__Bitches@reddit
No idea, you're probably correct, but that is why I work with computers haha
Bright-Trifle-8309@reddit
People are so afraid to just give things a red hot try sometimes.
My wife won't do anything she doesn't already know how to do. And I also dont know what we are doing, but I fiddle around until I figure it out.
no-but-wtf@reddit
I tell them all the time, I don’t know how to do shit, I just know the design language of tech - I know that three dots means it’s a menu, and that anything critical will generally have an “are you sure” pop-up, and that swiping back means go back, etc. A lot of people just don’t have that. I have faith in UI designers to adhere to conventions, at least most of the time (notably not always) because no one deliberately makes an app that can’t be understood. Knowing the conventions means basically everything can be worked out.
I guess the other part is keeping at least a 15 second working memory of what you pressed to get to where you are, but I don’t know how to teach that one.
zabrak200@reddit
Most people know people like us will take care of it so they go out of their way to never learn. Same with how doctors work.
no-but-wtf@reddit
The key is never to do it for them I think. I will take the phone, check that my proposed solution works, and then put it back to how it was and give the phone back to them so I can talk them through fixing it themselves.
I’m lucky that I have the time and flexibility to do this though. And also, the people who come to me for help with this stuff have had to make an appointment for and step outside of their general routine to come to the tech help area at the public library, so they are probably already more willing to seek solutions than many.
RussetWolf@reddit
I used to tell my mom "you don't know enough to really break things."
aj4000@reddit
In my experience I've found that in a lot of situations similar to this, it's because the person doesn't want to learn. And most of the time it's not even a deliberate choice they've made. They feel that it's too hard, complicated, and/or overwhelming, so their mind unconsciously kinda "turns off" the willingness to learn. It's almost always people who are 50+ but I have encountered the occasional sub-40 who's like this.
Long wall of text example. I work in the Aus wagering and electronic gaming industry. Most venues that have some kind of retail wagering area (like a sports lounge or bar) will have a space for displaying racing odds information. Stuff like all the info for the various race meetings, the odds of all the runners, data on the horses like how many races they've run and their win/place ratio, the jockey and trainer names, etc. It's a shitload of data. All these form sheets are often printed out and hung up on wall boards, so all this info is mostly really tiny text. Any time there's a change, like if a horse was scratched from a race or there was a jockey change, these updates would have to get printed out and the sheets manually updated.
About 10 years ago they introduced digital form information screens. These units have a touchscreen and are connected to the internet, so there is so much more information easily available that is a lot more detailed. They also have detailed info for most sports stuff as well. No longer must people suffer with the tiny text because the pages are not limited by A4 paper size and support zooming and scrolling.
I frequently see older men, like 55+, using magnifying glasses and still struggling to read the tiny text on the paper forms. I've asked a few of them why they don't use the digital forms. They usually tell me that they "look too complicated", but they've never even tried using them. These things were designed specifically to be easy, but because they're technology, when these old men look at them their brains just automatically think "too hard" so they don't even bother trying. I've managed to get a few guys to try them out after showing them how it works and reassuring them that they aren't gonna break it, but more often than not they still refuse to touch them.
ThePretzul@reddit
I had my phone go “all big” the other day when I dropped it.
As in zoomed in by 400% even after locking it, with no panning and offset such that I couldn’t even enter my unlock code because I couldn’t see the full keypad for it. Persisted on a device restart as well, so I started getting mildly nervous.
Turns out it was an automatic iPhone accessibility feature with a gesture shortcut of double-tapping using 3 fingers. You then need to pan around with 3 fingers. I had no idea about this and ended up needing to google it on a PC to find out.
But honestly, having it persist through device restart is genuinely diabolical.
SaltShock@reddit
My philosophy at work is: it’s already fucked, may as well try myself. Works 9/10 times and saves time waiting for techs from 3 hours away if it’s a physical problem (small town troubles).
glitterdust_starcat@reddit
my go-to statement when troubleshooting something with someone and i don't know for sure if what i'm about to do will fix it or not is 'well, it probably can't work less than it's working right now, so why not?'
SrGrimey@reddit
This constant is weird, people think stuff will explode if they touch anything in the configuration section.
frymaster@reddit
when I was a kid in the '80s, I was very confident at playing around on the computer because I knew I couldn't do any permanent damage, I'd just reset it and it'd be back to blank. With anything that has internal writable storage, this isn't the case any more - you can effectively "lock" people out of their phone just by changing the language, and it'll likely take another internet-connected device to solve (because you'll need screenshots or video to work out how to change it back). On a windows PC, selecting "reset" - the same word I used above - will at a minimum remove all their installed programs, and possibly all their data if they select the wrong option. So I think there are some reasons why people can get overly-cautious about experimenting, because some things can cause them grief, and it's only after experimenting that you can properly get a feel for which
djshiva@reddit
They don't have to get TOO randy with it. Knowing how to restart programs and the PC would be a nice, simple start.
EffervescentThimble@reddit
My husband thinks this way sometimes, and I have to try to tell him that changing a setting won't ruin everything. But he's so paranoid just because he's had technology break on him in the past that everything now will explode on him.
Geminii27@reddit
Would he be prepared to have a cheat-sheet of common 'undo' and 'bring up help' commands/processes?
justjanne@reddit
Holy shit so that's what that is. I've been wondering for weeks why I couldn't find a font size option, or menu, or anything anywhere in the messages app. I must've accidentally used pinch to zoom in the app at some point.
God I hate that there's no menu option to change or reset it, no settings option, or that software generally doesn't come with a manual anymore.
fakemoosefacts@reddit
Nope, definitely not an iOS thing.
harshadsharma@reddit
Yup, with you on this.
I've been an early adopter of tech, been programming for three decades, and yet the current user interfaces baffle me on good days, and enrage on others. There is no 'design language' that a person can learn over time, because the designs keep changing every promotion cycle. If something confuses people and the 'smart ones' have to step in to fix it, it never was intuitive or well designed, the smugness is about knowing the workarounds and keywords to search, which also keep changing with versions, because why not.
Tathas@reddit
My mom complained to me that, "I have to go slow with her, her generation didn't grow up with these things."
"Mom, your generation invented these things."
weaver_of_cloth@reddit
I'm 54, I absolutely did grow up with these things. But I lived in a house that had a TRS-80 Model 1 and the first Compu-serv account in our state, blah blah etc. I was teaching people how to use email well in to my 20s, in the late 90s. I'd give your mom a pass, unless she's like 35.
Tathas@reddit
Hah. I'm 50 and she's 81.
LupercaniusAB@reddit
Ehhh, I’d give her a break on that then. Sure, her generation invented those things, but she didn’t.
That was a niche thing until she was your age now.
LupercaniusAB@reddit
Well done!
bduddy@reddit
A significant amount of people believe on a fundamental level, whether they know it or not, that computers do not follow the normal laws of physics, mathematics or even causality. They treat them as mysterious black boxes for which input and output have only the vaguest correlation. I couldn't tell you why, but it definitely exists.
RedditReader4031@reddit
One of the opening comments in Computers for Dummies that I read more than 30 years ago was that exact line: computers don’t explode. That says it all.
Geminii27@reddit
Well, no, but for a long time most consumer-grade stuff was fairly trivial to accidentally brick.
"I have no idea what any of these 'system' files are, I'll delete them / move them somewhere to make it neater-looking."
RedditReader4031@reddit
Doing that requires more than a cat walking across a keyboard.
maceion@reddit
A good book even for those who 'think' they know about computers. Still on our bookshelf!
sanityjanity@reddit
Can I ask how old that person was?
It used to be that anything you did with technology came with training, and users were heavily discouraged from ever doing anything that they hadn't been explicitly trained to do.
My mom was very technically skilled, but really struggled with smart phones/tablets, because she had started so long ago, she'd originally used the command line. She was used to everything being explicitly explained, instead of the modern way that we download apps, and just... use them.
MakeupDumbAss@reddit
Why are end users so afraid of doing something wrong? If what you tried doesn't work, just undo it. Can't tell you how many times this dude in the office will watch me fix his insanely simple issue that has been fixed for him dozens of times while he continues to make the same mistake over & over. Afterward he always says, "I was going to try that but I didn't want to mess anything up." I mean, it's the same answer to the same problem every time. There is nothing for you to try. Just do what I showed you 500 times in the past.
-Goatllama-@reddit
On iOS the gesture is a double-tap with either 3 or 4 fingers
You better believe I committed that to memory after learning it
Not to mention I even accidentally did it to my pocketed device just a couple weeks ago
Very silly, should be disabled as default
candlebrew@reddit
I swear some people have a fear of breaking technology so extreme that they never figured out what things are okay to experiment with and figure out. I have a coworker who is too nervous to change her wallpaper because of the "Your organization may restrict your settings" or w/e banner, and thinks it means everything has been curated and she shouldn't touch anything.
DuckyDoodleDandy@reddit
I was a teen when home computers became somewhat affordable. Our family got an IBM compatible (ie: off brand) computer for $1200 (a lot of money, but a lot less than a real IBM).
You could do a lot of damage by hitting buttons you didn’t understand, so we had “Don’t Mess With It!!!!!!” beaten into us. I think a lot of parents passed that on to their kids, even tho tech is more resilient now; almost all issues can be resolved quickly.
MissRachiel@reddit
Heh. This takes me back to my family's first IBM compatible. They bought it not realizing they needed to buy monitor/keyboard/mouse separately, so they turned around and went back to the store, leaving the unopened box in our basement.
I came home from school and found a computer new in box just sitting there...and took it apart to see what was in it. My folks called from across town to say they'd be home in 10-15 min, and not to open the box downstairs so we could open it "as a family."
I have still never reassembled a computer so fast in my life.
BR41ND34D@reddit
I've done so many things wrong that one more absolutely doesn't scare me
no-but-wtf@reddit
Doing things wrong is how I learned to fix them, mostly.
Hurricane_32@reddit
I believe this more and more every single day, people in general are way too afraid to touch any settings or even attempt to customize any device they own beyond the initial setup, probably for fear of breaking something, or just general lack of curiosity. Almost every device you see will have default settings, default backgrounds, default colors...
And it's also the reason sometimes you see pictures that people upload online with watermarks of their phone advertising themselves, because manufacturers know this and leave the setting on by default.
xFayeFaye@reddit
That's why it baffles me when job ads require 5 years experience of, Idk, Jira for example. You learn that shit in 3 days and everything else is just learning by doing. As long as you apply some common sense (like not hitting delete buttons or giving random groups admin rights) you're fine.
InfiniteTree@reddit
99% of things can be fixed by typing verbatim what they ask into Google. People are morons and the world makes me sad.
turtle_mekb@reddit
this is so real, I have some family members who refuse to go into settings to fix something because they're afraid of messing something up
in_ya_Butt@reddit
I literally had the same a few weeks ago. I just zoomed with two fingers on her phone and everthing was suddenly normal again. Magic.
-metaphased-@reddit
It's arcane to them because they were taught that. We learn a great many things without realizing we're learning them. Some of them helpful and positive some of them negative.
SulfurAndBrimstone@reddit
reminds me of a coworker who had dual monitors. the monitor physically on the left was virtually on the right, and vice versa, to cross from one screen to the next you had to move the cursor towards the outside edges. offered to fix it for them but they declined saying that they had gotten used to it… i never took them as seriously after that
Occulto@reddit
There is a guy who sits in front of me at work. We have dual monitors and laptops.
All three screens show the same output.
He's been doing it for years.
KingKnusper@reddit
Maybe it's slightly off and has a 3D effect? /s
-Goatllama-@reddit
what the fcuk
Aeroncastle@reddit
I would appear on the news
Occulto@reddit
Dude is a classic "don't change it, because I prefer it that way" user too.
hugglesthemerciless@reddit
https://xkcd.com/1172/
Cato0014@reddit
Lighter mode is still legible, but darkest mode is just pitch black. That's fucked up.
hugglesthemerciless@reddit
I'm very entertained by these modes. Modem is cursed, as expected. Boat is probably my favourite
Friskerr@reddit
Airplane mode!
NYOOOM!
Confident-Zone-5043@reddit
What the fuck man i ugly laughed at 12:00 am
Mister_Mints@reddit
There's a woman that sits next to me at work like this.
We have these huge 21:9 curved monitors, decent keyboards and mice all connected up, and all you need to do is plug the USB-C cable on the desk into the laptop too get power, screen, input controls all connected up.
She does that, and then uses the track pad and keyboard on the laptop for input, and the laptop screen, while having the huge monitor display set to whatever the aspect ratio is on the laptop (so big black bars down the left and right off the monitor display)
But since she's using the laptop for display and input and never looks at the very nice monitor, I guess it doesn't matter 🤷
Randomfactoid42@reddit
I have two coworkers just like this too. Except we have dual monitors on our desks and these guys don’t even turn on their monitors. They just sit hunched over their laptops all day long.
co_snarf@reddit
HR would have to talk to me
atl-hadrins@reddit
That is some classic BOH stuff right there.
Hacksaures@reddit
Holy crap ive never seen this. This is exactly the kind of thing that would have appealed to me 11 years ago but I’ve literally never heard of this.
ardashmirro@reddit
Oh boi, somehow in my 6 years of IT support I’ve never seen this before! Is this like a series or did this actually happen? Honeslty can’t tell as we do have some users like that 😆
ro66ie@reddit
Holy shit 🤣🤣
theforgottenwarrior@reddit
The first time I had dual monitors was at school and they were set up like this. I didn't actually know that this was the issue. To me, the mouse was on the left screen, and things all opened on the right screen. I also had absolutely no idea what any of the settings meant. Took me a few minutes of fucking around but I got it figured out
weirdal1968@reddit
I would appreciate their determination to do it the wrong way and the mental plasticity involved.
Still worthy of a facepalm.
hugglesthemerciless@reddit
that's basically how the human brain works. you just get used to it to the point it becomes normal. Like those people that wear mirror glasses that flip the world upside down and such, it becomes normal for them and then is difficult to adjust to things being "right side up" again once removed
spaceraverdk@reddit
Same goes for taxes, government overreach and corporations greed.
hugglesthemerciless@reddit
A sobering thought
hitemlow@reddit
I was helping a lady who had this issue. She wanted to physically unmount and rearrange the monitors.
Fortunately, she was open to the software solution.
IthacanPenny@reddit
I’ve been a Mac used since before they switched the scroll direction to “natural scroll”. Since I was already used to scrolling down to go down, I have always changed my scroll direction in settings to be ‘normal’ to me. But that makes my scrolling ‘backwards’ to everyone else. It’s annoying lol
weaver_of_cloth@reddit
I've got natural-scroll on my work Mac, but the other way on my Giant Steam Deck, aka the pc in the living room that's only used for games. I spend my entire life scrolling one way then the other because I forget where I am. I personally find it hilarious, and don't care enough to change it.
Randomfactoid42@reddit
I have two coworkers who plug in their laptops to the docking station and then removers to use just their laptop screen while their dual monitors just sit there. The screens aren’t even turned on! They work all day long off the laptop screen and I don’t understand why.
KershawDB@reddit
I have a coworker that has a small tabletop standing desk with dual monitors. The standing desk isn't wide enough for both monitors with their factory stands, so one overlaps about half of the other. They're fine with the setup lol
Naomeri@reddit
I…can’t even.
I would throw the standing desk thing through a window before I put up with overlapping monitors.
NotYourReddit18@reddit
If at least one of the monitors has a VESA mount and there is unused space next to the desk, then just get an aftermarket hydraulic VESA arm you can clamp to the desk, mount one monitor to it, and let it hang out to the side.
That's how I had a three monitor setup on a desk only wide enough for two.
dutchreageerder@reddit
A coworker of mine had an issue with the order of the screens being "wrong". As in, the screen order was 1, 3, 2 (which was the correct order) but they wanted it as 1, 2, 3. Took me a while to explain that the number was purely an identifier of the screen and had no meaning in the physical order.
Casexcasey@reddit
One of the stations at my work is like that, with the added bonus of 2 other, unrelated monitors in-between the offending screens.
blakesmate@reddit
My new laptop did that when I set it up. Not sure why and had to google how to fix it
ConcernedKitty@reddit
Didn’t she know that she could open outlook with Ctrl+Alt+Win+Shift+O? /s
Agret@reddit
Knowing my luck that would launch Outlook (New) instead of the actual Outlook
KallamaHarris@reddit
Then you are basically a real astronaut
Gennerth@reddit
So launch both outlook and Artemis at the same time?
FnordMan@reddit
You joke but there's one shortcut just about as bad in LibreOffice. "Paste Unformatted Text" is Control+Alt+Shift+V.
bmwiedemann@reddit
Worked with Ctrl-Shift-V for me (also in other places such as Firefox)
FnordMan@reddit
Wonder if it's different in Calc, that's where I've been using it lately
bmwiedemann@reddit
I re-tested it and the Alt indeed helps to save an extra click in libreoffice.
yankfade@reddit
For me on mac it's always Cmd-V Cmd-Z Cmd-Shift-V because I still never remember that paste defaults to using the formatting from whatever other place I copied it from (which I virtually never want to do).
Geminii27@reddit
I mean, it's kind of logical? Ctrl-V is paste, Ctrl-Shift-V is often 'paste unformatted'. I don't know why they threw an Alt in there, though.
odaiwai@reddit
Alt-E-S brings up the "Paste Special..." menu in Office. (Clippy taught me that...)
goodenough4govtwork@reddit
Alt+H-F-P in sequence is the new format painter "shortcut" in MS office now...
th0r4z1n3@reddit
I get irrationally angry when I find myself having to use this command more than once or twice
hugglesthemerciless@reddit
it's pretty easy&satisfying to hit tho
unobtainaballs@reddit
Don't forget Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Win+L !
ConcernedKitty@reddit
Windows has a LinkedIn shortcut?
paulstelian97@reddit
That’s just Copilot+O. Neat little thing.
ZeCactus@reddit
More like copilot is just ctrl+alt+win+shift
Ivy0789@reddit
Oh this gave me a laugh thank you so much
potatoaster@reddit
It's AI-generated.
davequito@reddit
So what if it’s AI generated? Does that make the post any less funny. No
AlexisFR@reddit
What makes you think that?
potatoaster@reddit
Comparison that doesn't quite make sense
Domain expertise
DaveAlt19@reddit
FFS. Do I now have to re-read everything with that "Aye Eye. vOIce" in my head just to be sure?
kirby_422@reddit
I'm surprised how unknown/unused the magnifier is. I have a TV sized monitor in 4k, so during screenshares I pop open magnifier so people viewing can actually see what I'm doing since I don't want to change my DPI.
TheOnlyT76@reddit
Started in IT in 98. This does not surprise me. I once had a person ask me where the cd tray was... Yup had her coffee mug was in it and was wondering why it kept trying to close.
CaffeinatedTech@reddit
Back when you could move the taskbar I used to find it on the sides, or at the top on client computers fairly often. I would always ask if they meant to have the bar in that position, they never did and didn't know how to fix it.
Had a couple who accidentally rotated their screen.
negative_xer0@reddit
Back in high school I used to rotate the display 180°, take a screenshot, hide the desktop icons + taskbar, rotate the screenshot 180° in Photoshop, and set it as a wallpaper.
They'd have a inverted mouse and "nothing worked." 😂
bluedonutwsprinkles@reddit
I had mine on the top for a reason - neck issues. When got upgraded to win11, I was in hell for two weeks. I still hate it and don't mind I can't upgrade my home computers. I'm used to both now.
Oh and since then have had medical interventions that have helped me so the top isn't as important to me as before.
potatoaster@reddit
For those curious: Yes, this post was AI-generated.
And OP was flagged by Bot Bouncer a month ago.
/u/MagicBigfoot, would you please consider implementing it?
MagicBigfoot@reddit
Done.
wannaliveonmars@reddit
Is there any concern about false positives with this thing?
potatoaster@reddit
Yes. No AI detection tool is perfect, and accuracy rates are dropping as bots get more sophisticated.
But the false positive rate is still quite low, and it's easy to resolve on the user side when it does happen.
LC_Anderton@reddit
Oh there’s something broken alright… although I suspect it’s between her ears.
dragessor@reddit
I had a call from someone saying the couldn't get their camera to work on teams, after about 5 minutes of troubleshooting I ask them to check if their laptops camera has a privacy slide iver the camera.
The user the opens their laptop which had the lid closed the entire time.
Tba953@reddit
Idiocratie is a documentary. To braindead to use google or ai for simple questions.
espositorpedo@reddit
Take your own advice.
Arawn-Annwn@reddit
Otto correct is a thing which existing you no
Tba953@reddit
Well English isn't my first language and i literally ain't not care about spelling at all as long people get what i write.
Arawn-Annwn@reddit
I just get very annoyed with people judging you or thinking they have won somehow just because what you wrote in English wasn't perfect.
Tba953@reddit
Most people who where focused on spelling correctly are not the most sane i met or wrote with
SandmanHornFL@reddit
“She’s 34."
I’m not that surprised. The youngs use computers from birth, so they’re really good at using everyday applications. But many (most?) think of computers as appliances, black boxes, without knowing what’s happening inside. They’re application-literate, not computer-literate.
Collec2r@reddit
Guess how I got my job in IT ;)
And as of April 1st I was promoted to Team Lead lol (No, not an April Fools joke. For real)
Mother-Resolution152@reddit
Omg...34....
sanityjanity@reddit
This is the issue. Workplaces can be *so* toxic that someone would keep working this way rather than ask for help. Even if your company isn't toxic, she may have had very bad experiences in the past.
Joltik@reddit
The age broke me 😂 I thought for sure she’d be in her 50s
ggibby@reddit
As a friend of mine likes to say, "Humans can reprogram themselves."
FunnyObjective6@reddit
Bear Grylls would be proud.
TenNinetythree@reddit
I suspect, she might have needed glasses and appreciated the screen size.
BTW: Did it finally work without long delays when you move the mouse to the edge of the screen. That was the case in my former company using Windows 10 and it sucked. Especially when it happened during a customer call.
adeline882@reddit
This was s
CTC39@reddit
Yesterday at work I literally had a coworker not realize her wireless keyboard had a battery that had died and needed to be replaced with a new battery. Another coworker said loudly to everyone that she would call an IT person to change the battery. I calmly walked over, opened the battery department and replaced the dead battery with a brand new one. Voila! Back in business! The other coworker is still going to call an IT person to make sure all is legit because, you know, she's not an IT person. Lol
Today I'm going to teach her how to change the battery in her wireless mouse.
kagato87@reddit
Hahaha.
I used to get some variant of this every now and then.
The issues I've seen from someone setting something in the desk and catching the control key...
Agret@reddit
If it's a web browser Ctrl+0 fixes it. My girlfriend accidentally zooms webpages with the touchpad sometimes and I have to constantly tell her the keys to reset it.
Mipper@reddit
On Firefox there's a little magnifying glass icon on the right of search bar, clicking it resets the zoom. Not sure if other browsers have something similar.
Agret@reddit
You're right, comes up in Chrome too. I got my girlfriend using Firefox + uBlock though so I will tell her about the magnifying glass next time but I bet she will still ask me when it happens again haha
jaxupaxu@reddit
You people have the patience of angels. This shit infuriates me.
Suicicoo@reddit
I'm an electrician working for an electrical (?) company but have desk job. I also am that person here 😅
CermaitLaphroaig@reddit
I'll say this. I had to spend years at my IT job convincing my people that I wasn't going to call them stupid, or yell at them, or be rude, because they had messed something up, or didn't understand a problem. Because that is exactly the kind of person my predecessor was. They taught the staff that suffering through anything was better than going to IT for help.
Now they're happy to call me for help, they learn quickly, and there are far fewer major issues because we catch them earlier.
Of course there are morons out there. But i do think that no matter how stupid the question is you should never, ever make the person think it's a stupid question. Or they'll never ask for help again. And that makes everyone's job more difficult
BananaVixen@reddit
Never ceases to amaze me that users don't think to open a browser, perhaps on their phone if their computer is wonky, and Google their question. Like.... That's not being tech savvy, that's plain Jane common sense.
robinless@reddit
This is what gets me.
You can mess something up or be ignorant and still sort it out if you just try to find a solution
vpsj@reddit
My jaw dropped at the last line. I was assuming her age in the late 60s while reading the story
This person is just slightly older than me?!? How in the world?
zhantoo@reddit
I had something similar happen with a coworker. It was only Outlook that was zoomed though.
Most other coworkers I would have made a light hearted joke about needing stronger glasses when I saw it, but knowing her, she would not appreciate that type of joke, so when I saw the zoom she had, I did not mention it.
She had it for a few days (or weeks?) I don't remember exactly, but then she asked if I knew how to fix it.
Lesson to be learned? Make jokes on your coworkers behalf to figure out if their behavior is due to handicap or lack of skills /S
Nyorliest@reddit
You think this is a burn on that person, but it's really a burn on the company or your labor laws. If someone is so worried about getting in trouble that they hide their dumbness instead of fixing it, that's an institutional problem.
No-Good-One-Shoe@reddit
Idk this company sounds super easy going if you can go 3 days with a computer that's basically unusable and are still able to charge and nobody questions anything.
EffervescentThimble@reddit
A millennial, someone who grew up knee deep in computers, should know how to at least Google search potential solutions instead of just floundering through it.
lettersandlovers@reddit
I just read this zoomed in 400% because I couldn't believe it.
NoctisFFXV@reddit
I love it when users just don't report issues and just adapt to them.
We put out the KB5073455, a Windows update that broke shutdown and hibernation and would just restart PC. People were walking for 1-2 months with their laptops overheating in the bag, discharging the battery to the point where it wouldn't charge and having overall bad performance/problems that a restart would've probably solved.
Asking them why they wouldn't report it earlier - "It doesn't bother me"
gadget850@reddit
I've lost count of the times someone added a monitor and was swiping right to get to the left side.
KallamaHarris@reddit
One time I failed at talking a client through the settings menu to resolve this. Then I told them to physically pick up the monitor on the left and plonk it down on the right.
Issue resolved.
screeching-rat-king@reddit
Tbh I understand her hesitance
I worked for an external IT company, and some companies paid us per ticket, and we'd run whatever reports on the tickets that they wanted. It was pretty normal for companies to have us running reports showing each of thier employees, and how many tickets they created - and if they were newer employees generating an above average number of tickets, then they'd simply fire those employees to lower costs.
EffervescentThimble@reddit
But she couldn't have at least attempted to Google the issue to try to fix it herself? Surely there's a solution out there.
screeching-rat-king@reddit
Oh 100%
Most of the tickets people open with IT are solved by the IT guy just doing a better job of googling it. The thing is - there's actually a lot of people who are just really bad at putting things into words(like op's lady), and so they can't reach the answer by googling anyway.
EffervescentThimble@reddit
That's fair. I wish more people would realize that it's ok to try to look this stuff up. Or heck to even just tell us, it's not a big deal.
TheThrowawayJames@reddit
Yeah that would definitely be me 😂
Rolen47@reddit
I've accidentally hit that shortcut as well, but I fixed it a few minutes later after looking up how to disable it on my phone.
EffervescentThimble@reddit
I'd expect that behavior from a senior..... Not from someone 3 years younger than me 😳
malajulinka@reddit
Let me tell you about the number of times my cat managed to turn on the screen narrator on my Chromebook. I had to google how to turn it off Every. Single. Time. Pretty sure it's ctrl-shift-z.
minilevy1@reddit
Multiple people in my office complain about not having enough screen real estate, whilst using 2+ monitors on duplicate mode not extend mode.
No wonder you don't have enough screen real estate, you're essentially just using 1 screen.
zyzmog@reddit
I've seen people who could really use multiple desktops, if only (sigh) they knew about them.
Multiple screens multiplied by multiple desktops? Now THAT'S power.
zenithfury@reddit
That’s the sort of work focus the bosses like to see.
TheLexikitty@reddit
I’m legally blind and usually run Magnifier at about 600-800% on a 34” ultrawide haha. It can get pretty disorienting if you haven’t been using it since high school.
AlabasterWitch@reddit
I (actual IT) had the EXAT opposite, remote it into the PC and you could see like two ginormous fucking icons and I gigantic start button. They hadn’t turned the magnifier on. They somehow managed to set the scale to like near 1 billion. I had to tab my way over to it as it was way too large to actually see anything anywhere near normally
RainbowEagleEye@reddit
I’m not IT, but my coworkers know I know computers. We have shared desktops and one of my coworkers somehow managed to set up a phantom monitor on his login. All his applications opened in the imaginary screen. He was deeply offended when another coworker logged in and her settings were fine. I had to explain what he had managed to do and why it didn’t affect the rest of us.
thatgirlinAZ@reddit
People getting in trouble for making a mistake that affects no one prevents openness, learning, experimentation, and communication.
It's a shame that this happened and she didn't know how to fix it. It's tragic and very telling of the company culture that she felt prohibited from saying something immediately.
asmcint@reddit
Not always indicative of the current company, some people are conditioned this way from how they grew up, from school, or from previous work environments.
Nyorliest@reddit
Yes, it's an institutional issue. The institution might be your nation, however.
CommercialHope6883@reddit
Reminds me of the time someone said their screen was upside down. Yep. Hit the wrong keystrokes. And the time a lady turned on the keystroke accessibility setting to avoid typing the same letter in succession. Her name had 2 Ls 2 Ns and 2 Rs. Fun time with that one.
LapisExillis@reddit
I work in IT and once a coworker came to my office totally frantic, saying she had done something to her computer and that she hadn't done any work for about 2 hours. I went to her desk and the screen was rotated 180° degrees so it was upside down. I already knew these computers had the Intel video driver, that had shortcut keys that allowed to rotate the screen, so I just applied the correct key sequence and it flipped again to normal. I ask how did she managed to flip the screen and she had no idea, just that accidentally something fell on the keyboard and it magically did that (I did not believe that, of course). What I think is that she was trying to do some key combination and accidentally pressed the key sequence for the screen flip.
We are good friends still to this day, many years later, and from what I hear she still manages sometimes to make IT scream, LOL. (I don't work there anymore).
mistercreezle@reddit
This is why I always assure people that “no problem is too small.”
I can’t imagine functioning like this for one day, let alone three! Please, let me help you!
Helpful_Science5686@reddit
My cats did that to my laptop. I googled. Fixed it. Why are people so… stupid?
NotAnOwl_@reddit
I am so over that excuse. Actually, this is how you should get in trouble, actually. We are all adults here with a job to do; if you need help, ASK FOR IT!
edgy_bach@reddit
Unfortunately in America it could get you fired. At will employment
NotAnOwl_@reddit
If your business is built in a way that 1 stupid mistake from 1 employee brings such loss to the business that you would actually lay off an employee for it, your business should go under. You need to have contingencies in place.
Fauropitotto@reddit
Nah, how we do anything is how we do everything.
I guarantee you she thinks exactly the same way at home as she does at work.
Her behavior has nothing to do with her job, it has to do with her entire mindset and how she cognitively engages with her environment.
atl-hadrins@reddit
Had the same thing happen recently, I think. But they are 40 miles away and someone else managed to fix it before I could drive out to fix it. And I tried everything I could think of before remotely.
But only just now thought of a joke where a gynecologist retired and took a mechanics course.
Punchline,. He rebuilt the engine thru the exhaust for his final.
udsd007@reddit
I’ve seen that joke. He got 125% on the final.
tamesis982@reddit
Oh this made me smile. Thank you.
SidratFlush@reddit
She was probably told off for asking too many questions as a child.
Pure speculation of course but such responses will take decades of positive reinforcement to resolve, even then overdoing it may result in a swing to the very opposite side of the pendulum and you'll never hear the end of it. Perhaps a regression.
Good luck.
chibicascade2@reddit
She's 34 💀
Dopecombatweasel@reddit
I'm absolutely done
JavaKrypt@reddit
I had something similar. Was rolling out a new VPN for users, arranged for them to meet me so I could set them up and run through some basic troubleshooting.
She was trying her laptop in tablet mode for over a year. Thought it was normal and an update had enabled it. She was working on 1 thing at a time not being able to multitask, but she adapted to it 😂
FixinThePlanet@reddit
The other day my cat sat on the keyboard when I was away for a second and turned the screen upside down. I googled "cat sat on keyboard screen upside down fix" and found the solution in five minutes. (Also realised that general searches for this kind of minor technical fault have become 8000000 times worse than 20 years ago, probably around the last time I was looking stuff like this up.)
UntouchedWagons@reddit
Is this a bot account? Newly made account with loads of posts and comments that are hidden
flexxipanda@reddit
Ah days like these I always think, ya thats the proof; productivity =\= wage
GhostPepperInTheShel@reddit
i always tell them im never going to get you in trouble , i dont care (unless its obviously intentional, but even then thats above my paygrade) , i must here to help.
xylarr@reddit
Ok, who here just tried Windows - plus?
It doesn't work that well if you have a dual monitor setup where the monitors are two different resolutions, and are running at two different DPI (the monitors are both 24 inch).
Few-Explanation-4699@reddit
Should have gotten her a gumbo screen /s