So glad it’s Friday.. what a freaking week this was
Posted by TechieJay23@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 10 comments
Okay guys, it’s Friday, time for our end of the week jobs that left us speechless lol.
So this time I’m working on a printer. Regional tech says it’s getting an APIPA IP address. No problem, I get on site thinking it’ll be quick. Check the data drop, activated and good to go. Patch cable’s fine. I can get out to the internet, easy. Printer isn’t on our DHCP reservation list, so I go ahead and add it. Reboot the printer… still getting that APIPA address 🤔
I check and recheck everything. Swap patch cables on the closet side. I knew it was on the data VLAN but still wanted to be sure. None of it made sense. 40 minutes later. finally, it pulls an assigned IP. Like wtf 😭
Mind you, we’re in the middle of switch upgrades across every school in the district, moving from Avaya to Extreme. This school was just cut over recently. New gear, 5520 switch, auto-sense enabled on data ports. I know it can take a few minutes to fully connect, but not over 30+ minutes. Data jack side already tested and confirmed.
So what’s left? The infrastructure between the jack and the switch. Definitely not Cat 6… probably Cat 5. Yep, most likely Cat 5 🫠 And that would explain a lot, especially with newer switches and devices trying to auto-negotiate at higher speeds.
What are your thoughts? I’ve never seen anything like that before. A simple printer job turned into a 40-minute head-scratcher. Normally this is a 15–20 min fix tops.
Marmot418@reddit
It seems this got removed, I just see the title and the short tag before the end of post reddit UI
Lost_my_loser_name@reddit
Wonder when all that Cat5 and Cat5e in the world will be replaced...
TechieJay23@reddit (OP)
Tell me about it. We managed over 200 schools. Only about a handful are considered new or renovated. Rest have been built over 50 years ago or more. Slowing down our network. 😒
Ephemeral-Comments@reddit
Your tech people should not throw jargon at you. APIPA stands for automatic private internet protocol addressing, and it basically means "randomly assigned IP address in a certain range as a last resort".
The short version is that the printer was unable to obtain an IP address through the network (more commonly known as through a DHCP server, such as on your Wi-Fi router).
Also, data ports don't take a few minutes to connect. Some switches will take \~30 seconds to complete a check on loops (called spanning-tree protocol), but not much longer.
TechieJay23@reddit (OP)
Yeah not sure what printers you have worked on. But a simple reboot will show the assigned IP. Always worked for me. Until today lol and this wasn't some outdated printer. A Canon. Looking fairly new
TechieJay23@reddit (OP)
And with these newer switches does take a bit longer with that auto-sense feature. But nowhere close to 30 mins. Just weird
remorackman@reddit
You have a Fluke (or other brand) network meter you take with you? My first test would have been unplug from printer and plug into meter. If the meter gets a DHCP address, troubleshoot the printer. If the meter doesn't get a DHCP address then troubleshoot the switch port or DHCP server.
Could have been the printer holding on to old configuration after a switch change or maybe DHCP helper config missing from the switch config.
So many things if nothing is known.
Company should be outfitting you with a meter though. $2k pays for itself pretty quick if you can save 30 minutes a call 😎
TechieJay23@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I do. Well I plugged that same cable into my laptop and I was about to get out to the internet. Everything from the wall back was good. That took 2 secs.
And yeah maybe. Its possible. Anything is possible with printers lol. They have a mind of their own sometimes
Ephemeral-Comments@reddit
Oh oops, I thought I was replying in another sub. Nevermind, this is a tech support sub.
I feel stupid now, but I'll leave the comment for your amusement.
Anyway, if auto-negotiation fails, it should fall back to 100mb/half duplex as per the IEEE standard. You may get collisions, but a DHCP address should be obtained. I would suspect something on the server (DHCP) side.
ol-gormsby@reddit
Customer needs a new printer. "Do you need colour printing" "Only rarely" "OK get a brother monochrome laser, and do your rare colour prints at a kiosk. Inkjets will clog up if you don't use them."
Customer calls the next day, they've bought:
inkjet
display model (no others in stock)
Which turns out, after setup, to have a faulty scanner. Setup program can't detect it, Windows can't detect it, even the scan button on the machine won't work.
They take it back, and acquired what I told them to get in the first place. That machine worked perfectly.
But here's the story: they bought from a well-known mass-market general goods retailer in Australia by the name of Harvey Norman. It's popular because of saturation advertising, not the quality of its goods or services.
When they took the first one back, the salesperson first said "We can fix that." "No, we want a refund under warranty." "It's a display model, there's no warranty." "Yes there is" (the wife is a lawyer, and took a printout of the relevant laws with her) "Oh, you've installed the ink cartridges, that voids the warranty" "No it doesn't, we want a refund" waving the printout at him. They get passed off to someone slightly more helpful, who offered them a store credit. Once again the printout was waved. They got a refund.
And that's why you should never, ever shop at Harvey Norman. There are many other reasons, but that one alone is good enough to never buy from them.