How our industrial Bluetooth device turned us into holiday tech support for everyone’s grandma
Posted by Solid-Rabbit-3000@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Back around 2013ish, I worked for a (very) small company that designed niche industrial products — stuff for factories, warehouses, and the like. As the company began to grow, we started generalizing our offerings and trying to expand our customer base.
To help with that, the owner decided it was time to overhaul our website and hired a professional company to rebuild it. Up to that point, it had been designed and maintained by our embedded software engineers — because hey, it's all just programming, right? As part of the update, the owner brought in a marketing consultant to improve our SEO, with the goal of making sure that when plant managers searched for very specific industrial terms, we’d be right at the top.
Because of our size and the technical nature of our products, we didn’t have a dedicated support desk — instead, our five-person engineering team (me included) handled customer support directly. The owner emphasized support as a top priority, and our website prominently boasted our “world class support.”
That might have been a mistake.
Enter: The Holidays.
We took a few days off for Christmas and New Year’s, and when we came back… chaos.
We were flooded with calls and emails demanding support — like, angry people yelling that our Bluetooth products were garbage, or asking how to pair their headphones with their phones.
Confusion.
Turns out, we had exactly one product that used Bluetooth — a super-specific device that connected certain pieces of industrial equipment on the factory floor. Not exactly consumer tech.
Well, it seems the SEO work really did its job. If you Googled “Bluetooth support” or “Bluetooth help” in our region, we came up right at the top.
So now we had a perfect holiday storm: tons of people opening their shiny new Bluetooth-enabled gifts, running into pairing problems, Googling “Bluetooth support,” and finding… us.
Explaining to callers that we didn’t make their headphones or speakers didn’t always help. A lot of them just didn’t get it:
"But its Bluetooth- your website says Bluetooth. Why do you refuse to help me!"
A few even said things like:
“Well [insert random cheap headphone brand] doesn’t have a support number — can’t you just help me to Bluetooth it anyway?”
Eventually the wave passed, and things calmed down. Our new product lines actually took off later, the company grew rapidly, and eventually got acquired and absorbed into a well-known Industrial supplier. But for a while, we’d still get the occasional rogue call from someone wanting Bluetooth help.
Oh — and then there was the one woman who called constantly (sometimes daily) to scream that our app (we didn’t have one) was downloading PDFs to her phone, and that if we didn’t stop it, she’d call the police.
One of my coworkers actually spent an hour on the phone with her the first time, being incredibly kind and patient. He eventually concluded she was, in his words, “probably just a nutjob.” (Technical term.)
grumpysysadmin@reddit
A lot of electronics like smart TVs at one point used an OS with the Mach microkernel. Usually the manuals for those devices would have all the licenses for the software used in their product at the end of the document. The CMU Mach microkernel license has the address at the end, used for correspondence and other licensing stuff, so it often was at the last page of the user guides, often what you’d see if you didn’t open it but just looked at the last page.
I used to work for the department where that license “lived” as a sysadmin, and my office mate had been there forever and was the recipient for Mach license queries.
We would get a LOT of hand-written letters with complaints about TVs, DVD / Blu-ray players, etc.
CurufinweFeanaro@reddit
Dropping this here: https://daniel.haxx.se/email/ A collection of all emails that the creator of curl got because his email appeared in license notices
Yoram001@reddit
I work at a company that does broadcast systems integration and support and received a call last week.
Yes hello, i have a problem with [random costumer level podcast device].
Uuh we don’t sell that type of device…
Oh… [silence].. i asked Chat GPT and that gave me your number….
I did try to help the guy, but the device was dead. Fun tho that we are indexed by Chat GPT.
oloryn@reddit
Yeah. When using any LLM, you must keep in mind Gibb's Rule #3: "Don't believe what you're told. Double check."
Ivebeenfurthereven@reddit
gadget850@reddit
I was tech support for a printer manufacturer, and folks would get confused looking for drivers. We had bought out Centronics, and we would get calls looking to order Centronics connectors, which are just a standard connector that was used when designing the interface, because they were in stock.
Aggravating-Ice5575@reddit
Bluetooth tech support is just the worst too - just lowest common denominator. It has to be compatible with everything, no matter how ridiculous. I could put a pickle in developer mode.
Solid-Rabbit-3000@reddit (OP)
(In a different role, more recently) the company I worked for had a Bluetooth cable replacement gateway- it basically was meant to replace those pesky serial cables for hard to reach or moving equipment. You plug our little brick into the PLC on one side and whatever other device on the other end and it transmitted the serial data over Bluetooth. I didn't realize how much confusion there was over Bluetooth even in with other Engineers (in my little corner of the industry at lest). I had one guy (a PLC programmer I believe) who bought a bunch and was quite upset to learn that (1) our serial gateway didn't natively connect to his Xbox controller and (2) it would require a LOT of firmware work to get the Xbox controller to control his robot. He expected the Xbox controller to be plug-and-play with his industrial robot through the magic of Bluetooth.
AdreKiseque@reddit
Incredible
Who the fuck just googles "Bluetooth support"??
Solid-Rabbit-3000@reddit (OP)
Almost exclusively people who have a very loose grasp on what Bluetooth actually is in the first place.
AdreKiseque@reddit
Take me back dude
shadow247@reddit
God no. The people who were early adopters of the Bluetooth ear pieces...
We called them the "asshole badge", because only assholes with no respect have a full blown 1 sided conversation in the line at Subway....
NekkidWire@reddit
Now things have changed -- people hold their phone like a tray in front of their mouth and we hear both sides. Yuck.
SeanBZA@reddit
Plus the voice gets louder the further away the recipient is, as if they need to shout to be heard over the distance.
Specific_Kangaroo241@reddit
My phone still has a 3,5mm jack... 🙂
spaceraverdk@reddit
I won't buy one without the jack. No dongles, no fuss.
frymaster@reddit
someone who thinks "bluetooth" is the name of the product
"beats" headset. "apple" airpods. "bluetooth" headset.
Loading_M_@reddit
I believe it is (by many definitions) a product. The Bluetooth SIG sells the specification, resources for implementing it, and validation software to ensure compatibility. They also sell access to the trademark and branding for Bluetooth enabled devices.
It isn't a consumer product, but it is a product. Also, tbf, Bluetooth might be the only branding on some really cheap devices - especially prior to Amazon's trademark program.
Epistaxis@reddit
Someone who's just received their first Bluetooth device as a gift at the age of 70. Bluetooth certainly sounds more like a company name than a technical specification, and the word might be emphasized in the name of the product on the box.
NotPrepared2@reddit
Bluetooth sounds like the name of a Viking king.
meitemark@reddit
Annoyingly, wikipedia acctually translates his last name / nickname. His name was "Harald Blåtann" not "Harald Bluetooth". It would be like if u/NotPrepared2 was translated to IkkeForberedt2 for me...
zman0900@reddit
Have you met people? Most of us are idiots, and some are even dumber.
flecktonesfan@reddit
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Then remember that half of them are even stupider than that."
-George Carlin
Winterwynd@reddit
Oh, you sweet summer child. Customers, especially those with severely limited tech know-how, will put the strangest things into a Google search. It's been a decade since I worked in a call center, but I remember the suffering.
ultrabolic@reddit
The people who need it the most
omega552003@reddit
Same people that think turning off the monitor is turning the computer off.
Mickenfox@reddit
A lot of users are more incompetent you can possibly imagine.
There's a reason why the internet is covered head to toe in 10 minute "tutorials" explaining how to do extremely basic things. And fake support websites targeting those people.
Great_Hamster@reddit
Lots of people who don't know what they're doing?
walrustaskforce@reddit
>Up to that point, it had been designed and maintained by our embedded software engineers
Yeah, let's assign the interface design to the people who prefer pure binary for all communications. What could go wrong?
Solid-Rabbit-3000@reddit (OP)
To be fair, the website worked great if accessed from a Siemens PLC over Profinet- but the standard HTTP interface left something to be desired.
clonk3D@reddit
Yeah, but you have to go through 7 Steps to even get that far...
clonk3D@reddit
Yeah, but you have to go through 7 Steps to even get that far...
lord_teaspoon@reddit
Sounds cool, these "browsers" are just a fad anyway.
BrewerBeer@reddit
The use of En Dashes ( — ) are why people claim it is AI. If you comb over your AI output to remove them, you'll no longer be accused of using AI. The fun part is that if you try to put that in your prompt, AI will put them in there anyway.
DeGloriousHeosphoros@reddit
Sure, but no one should have to do that just to post something. The Em-Dash — and En-Dash – are perfectly valid punctuation.
Also, it's a good thing to have some variety between sentences and paragraphs; things can get dry and boring otherwise.
BrewerBeer@reddit
I fully agree that they're good variety and perfectly valid punctuation. It is everyone's option on if they should add them — the nay-sayers are going to come out one way or the other. I am just mentioning how to avoid it, not that you should.
H1king33k@reddit
OHMYGAWD!!! THEY USED AN EM-DASH!
HERETIC! SINNER! AI ABUSER!
/s
Aln76467@reddit
I like em dashes and en dashes. hyphens are for joining words.
Epistaxis@reddit
If we're being really technical, style manuals generally say the en dash is the one that has spaces around it – like this – while an em dash is the one that shouldn't—like that. If you type a hyphen between spaces, your word processor will probably correct it to an en dash. So the em dash with spaces is a little more suspicious, like having the same wrong answers on your exam as the person sitting next to you.
Aln76467@reddit
Ah yeah. Spaces around em dashes are dumb.
ThatUsrnameIsAlready@reddit
u/bot-sleuth-bot
iEpic@reddit
This feels like an AI generated post, or at least enhanced by it. See the copious amounts of em dashes, the symmetrical sentence structure, the rule of 3 clauses in each sentence, paired with the fact that the account was created in September 2024 and the only activity is this post and the one comment on it from OP.
Here's the video I use to help spot AI writing.
Solid-Rabbit-3000@reddit (OP)
I ran my draft through ChatGPT for polishing before posting - sorry if that's not allowed. I'm an Engineer so I write at a 5th grade level.