Blank Monitor = IT Blocked the Switch
Posted by UnicycleLoser@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 93 comments
tldr; half of my job would go away if people read the messages they got on their screens
Over the past few months we’ve been slowly building up one of our field offices as they’ve been hiring people which means sending out the occasional new workstation/monitors, etc. for new users to login to. They get the PC, plug it into the switch on-site, and go. Pretty standard and no issues up until this one. One day a ticket comes into the helpdesk from the office admin out there that says “Can we please unblock port X on the switch so the new guy can access the internet?”
Immediately I raise an eyebrow because we don’t “block the internet” on any of our switch ports at any other sites and it wouldn’t make any sense for just this ONE port not to work when we’ve been sending them new machines for weeks now. So I grab the ticket and do a bit of investigative work by opening up our remote access software where I can see the PC clearly showing as online as well as logging into the firewall and seeing the PC connected to the switch port in question. I responded back to the ticket saying things looked okay from my end but figured I might be looking at the wrong PC and asked her to confirm the name of the machine (we stick a label with the PC name on every PC we send out). Crickets.
Five minutes later, the foreman for the site calls my coworker annoyed saying “you guys need to fix this, this guy is just sitting here unable to do any work” and moments after that the user himself sends in a ticket with the same description as above: “please unblock port X on the switch”. So now I’m getting annoyed and after finally tracking down their phone number (that everyone neglected to give us) I give the guy a call.
I confirmed the PC name with him, remoted into the machine and then saw the Windows login screen. I thought “oh, he must just not be entering his password correctly, I guess I could see why they thought it was the internet”, so I asked him to try entering his password again to see what would happen. He says he doesn’t see anything, just a blank monitor that has the word English on it.
And then it clicked. We have been sending them newer Dell monitors that, when you first plug them in, you just have to use one of the physical buttons on the monitor to, you know, select your language. As instructed on the screen itself. He reads the message, presses the button it tells him to, and WHOA, everything works! Go figure.
Now like a lot of you I’m sure that when someone describes an issue like “the internet doesn’t work”, you run down the mental checklist of other stuff that might actually be going on that they lack the tech literacy to describe but this was a whole other level that I wasn’t prepared for. How you get from a “blank” monitor to “the firewall port is blocked” is such a baffling big stretch that I’m still not quite sure how they arrived there.
ITrCool@reddit
I got a call once from a user on campus at the university I was attending (worked IT for them as a student job).
Me: Thanks for calling IT help desk this is ITrCool, how can I help?
User (an older gal that liked to sound smarter than she was): “the server is down!! We can’t do anything!!”
Me: uhhhh….which server?
User: “You don’t need to be told that!! You can clearly see it!! The server is down!! We have work to do!!”
Me: Ma’am which server? There are several. (I’m furiously clicking through vCenter trying to find any downed servers and looking through Zabbix for alarms, finding none)
User: “Don’t give me that excuse!! You need to do your job! The. Server. Is. DOWN!!”
Me: (getting annoyed) Ma’am, unless you tell me which server you are talking about or what specifically you can’t reach, I can’t help you. We show NO servers down at this time. All services are up and running and green across the status board.
I finally get her to calm down and tell me which “server” she’s talking about…………..she had signed out of OneDrive. 😑
Starfury_42@reddit
I worked the early shift at a law firm - 5am start. Every morning around 6:30am one of the secretaries would call. "Is the server down?" Every time I'd ask the same question: Which one? She'd inevitably say email and that her attorney NEEDED it to be working when he got in. I'd report that email was currently working. I finally told her that if email was NOT working she'd be waiting in a queue of callers since the east coast offices would be flooding our line. Eventually she quit calling every day; she must've got tired of my "which one?" question.
SavvySillybug@reddit
Sometimes my mom will tell me she emailed me something. So I check my primary, email, nothing. I check my firstnamelastname email, nothing. I check that third email she really wouldn't use but knows about, nothing. I check spam folders in all three, nothing. I check that fourth email I'm pretty sure she doesn't know about, nothing.
So I ask her where she sent this email. She says WhatsApp.
zeus204013@reddit
Like mine. I told her: Send me an sms, not WhatsApp text because is in another phone (because I use some small old phone outside home, no whatsapp because low storage).
Mom: Received my message? Me: No Mom: But I sent one a few hours ago.
Later in home: Mom, it was a message but via WhatsApp...
Mom: Oooooh
Dansiman@reddit
The number of times my mom has told me "My Google isn't working!"
Delicious_Big8371@reddit
I get this call every day, and every day it's Chrome. I've given up trying to help people understand it.
BusinessCell6462@reddit
Sometimes the frustration does go the other way. As a user, I would occasionally run into issues with Frontline IT support trying to go through their troubleshooting scripts when I knew exactly what needed to be done. I was responsible for making edits of values in quality control tables in a laboratory system. The new values wouldn’t be updated where they could be used by the computer system until the server they were on was cycled. I didn’t have the ability to cycle the server, and the Frontline IT people did not have the ability to cycle the server. They would have to escalate it to a particular support team who could in 30 seconds cycle the server and allow my values to go active.
Half the time when I would call in and tell them I need you to put in a ticket to this certain team to cycle this particular server, they wouldn’t take my word for it. They would go through a 10 minute troubleshooting script before I finally realizing that they in fact could not fix it and really did need to escalate this to the team I told them to. I get that their job is to try and fix the problem before escalating, but when I give them the team that can fix it and the server number I need cycled and tell them that they don’t have access to do it, maybe they would think I know what I’m talking about.
ITrCool@reddit
Most IT depts have strict policy about escalating straight to a senior team without triage first.
They may have understood you but had to triage by policy first, all the while feeling stupid that they had to go through the motions rather than just escalate it.
A lot of orgs do this to cover their butts legally and to ensure process has always been followed (unless it’s a “total business stoppage” emergency situation, those are different) so senior folks don’t get overwhelmed and burned out.
Dansiman@reddit
When I was on the help desk, any time I needed to make a warranty claim with Dell, I followed this process:
Warrangota@reddit
Time for a shibboleet
ITrCool@reddit
XKCD is the greatest thing in geekdom since the NES
thegeekgolfer@reddit
and then.... no apology, nothing. Simply attitude that you clearly didn't do your job at magically understanding what they were asking.
ITrCool@reddit
Nope. None. She just said "fine" and hung up after I got her signed back in to OD. 🙄
harrywwc@reddit
uh oh - she said "fine" ?
bad juju, very bad (married for many decades now - we know this)
5p4n911@reddit
r/lostredditors
TinyNiceWolf@reddit
She has a good suggestion there. See if you can charge her a hefty fine.
syntaxerror53@reddit
suppose, on the plus side
they weren't asked to do the "needful"
UnicycleLoser@reddit (OP)
I'm so thankful we only have one or two people like that at my company. I'll never get annoyed at somebody not understanding something tech-related until they decide that they DO know what's happening (they're not even close), and they're mad at you and it's your fault (it was entirely their fault).
ITrCool@reddit
There were at least four at the university.
Especially one gal in our finance office in the admin building. Good grief she thought she was Neo from the Matrix, except instead she was clearly Ernest P Warrel, from “Ernest Attempts IT”.
BrentNewland@reddit
You got my hopes up when I read that, only for Google to bring them crashing down.
ITrCool@reddit
Nah sry. lol
Was just an illustration, but man that would’ve been hilarious. 🤣 At least for us technical folks.
CharcoalGreyWolf@reddit
If someone can’t accept my answers, they must be Godlike in their technical prowess, and capable of fixing the problem themselves.
ITrCool@reddit
I literally sat up from 2am to 5am Sunday morning last week.....because some gal on the other end couldn't accept that the issue with her inability to connect to remote resources from home was her ISP. I called her manager in to take over after explaining to him what was going on and sending him screenshots of speed tests and telling him all she needed to do was restart her router/modem.
He understood completely and said he'd take it over from there since he knew how to do all of that and knew best how to get her to listen to him. I went straight back to bed after that.
That was a long day........
Gadgetman_1@reddit
This is why users should NEVER have our contact info.
ITrCool@reddit
Well I got called through our answering service, so no phone number shared with them
Purple-Lie-354@reddit
Ah, the eternal rounds of rochambeau...
Kycrio@reddit
I also work in IT as a student at a university. Earlier this week we got a ticket saying "Matlab doesn't work for me. It works for lab manager on his account but it doesn't work for me." I think maybe their student email wasn't authorized to use a Matlab license? My coworker goes to the user's lab to see what's happening. They reported back, the code the user was writing had a mistake and was unable to run. I hope they were embarrassed that they had IT come to their lab when it was their own bad code.
Less_Author9432@reddit
🤣🤣🤣🤣
TheRealTinfoil666@reddit
I suspect that at some point in the past, this particular user was unable to access the internet on his work computer, and the problem was, in fact, a blocked switch port.
Ergo, anytime that user cannot simply ‘go to the internet’, it must be a blocked port.
Delicious_Big8371@reddit
Nowadays its just random terms they saw on Tiktok/etc with a splash of "I did some research on ChatGPT before calling, and I think it's (thing that never happens and/or doesn't make any sense whatsoever).
SeanBZA@reddit
Or heard it from sombody at some long past job, where they were denied any internet access at all, except for some internal email that would be able to accept messages from outside, but not any linked images.
CPU_whisperer@reddit
Once upon a time when I worked as IT, I changed all background images of the domain with an image that had a big red button in the middle of the screen with the caption:
Click me to start working
Almost 30% of the users were complaining that they couldn't work because the button didn't do anything.
Amazingly the less complaints came from management. They had so many icons on screen that they didn't see the image 😅
I was asked to return to the corporate background in less than 30 minutes, but it was fun 😊
Strazdas1@reddit
And old trick to make users freak out: Screenshot current desktop. Use that as desktop image. Hide desktop icons.
Dansiman@reddit
Ha, joke's on you, I already have my desktop icons hidden!
fishvoidy@reddit
chaotic evil
AJourneyer@reddit
A little knowledge of terminology can be a very dangerous thing.
NDaveT@reddit
Look, all you gotta do is reroute auxiliary power through the deflector dish. Why do you IT guys make everything so difficult?
Strazdas1@reddit
Just reverse the poralirity on the south bridge to access the DNS, duh.
Dansiman@reddit
It's not DNS.
There's no way it's DNS.
It was DNS.
zeus204013@reddit
it has no spare isolinear chips anymore, that why.
ChoiceFabulous@reddit
It's why you need Bio-neural gel packs
ttlanhil@reddit
Woah, careful dude, if you don't also reverse the polarity, you'll be fixing it for the next 45 minutes (minus commercial breaks)!
VanorDM@reddit
Way back in the days when I was an intern and worked on Win 3.12 PCs... Had someone call because her word wasn't working.
Get there and boot up the PC and see...
"No system disk detected - please insert a system disk."
One of her co-workers trying to impress her (She was very attractive) formatted the HD in an attempt to fix her Word issue, but didn't even format it correctly.
syntaxerror53@reddit
a colleague gave a user a brand new pc (WFW)
first thing they tried on brand new PC
format c:
about to press "Y" until colleague stopped them
ChoiceFabulous@reddit
Tried to insert his hard drive but it was just a floppy
zeus204013@reddit
that coworker was "reformatted" by HR/management?
/s
ChoiceFabulous@reddit
Tried to insert his hard drive but it was just a floppy
flyingemberKC@reddit
3.12?
VanorDM@reddit
Yeah that was a typo on my part. But thanks for catching that.
kanakamaoli@reddit
"It's the qos. You need to adjust the qos". No Karen, that's just the latest buzzword you heard on youtube for an unrelated issue. Your page isn't printing because you are out of paper and the printer is offline.
Phaedrus_Schmaedrus@reddit
If a user told me the sky was blue, I'd say "Yessir, I'm sorry to hear that", then look out the window to check.
zeus204013@reddit
and/or adding the color in hex
0000FF
for blue
Dansiman@reddit
00f.
i_am_dangry@reddit
CEO: There is an IP conflict taking down the network randomly and causing our SCADA equipment to freak out. I want all the PtP bridges taken out because wireless is a terrible idea. Replace with cable in 3 days!! Tech: Uhhhhh so I opened one of the SCADA cabinets and there is bare copper on one of the mains cables with clear arcing signs to the chassis.
Fluffy-duckies@reddit
So, turns out electricity trying to go wireless is a terrible idea
i_am_dangry@reddit
Tesla is turning in his grave reading that comment
Fluffy-duckies@reddit
We just need to install a stator around him...
Rhywden@reddit
Dark Science #01 - The Collected Works of Shakespeare: the Movie - Dresden Codak
battmain@reddit
A wise person a long time ago, told me identify the problem. This is easy by asking 5 questions on what the person stated but 5 different ways. Especially when they moved across the country but didn't tell anybody. Oh, nothing changed according to them. The questions always trip them up.
naterichster@reddit
I would love to hear more about this.
battmain@reddit
Reply went to some other thread... Cut and paste:
I'm too lazy to type them up, lol, but work long enough in the field and your probing questions will have a logical flow and with enough time, you'll know most of the answers to those questions. And when the answers don't make sense, you will ask a different way. That's if the users didn't drive you insane first, lol.
Ill_Cheetah_1991@reddit
I used to work on an old system that used dumb terminals
There were several different ways that the application could go wrong and each required different action for fix it
But as far as the user was concerned switching it off then on would get them back on
But to actually fix the problem it had to be logged with the actual error message or we (normally me) would not know what to look for
They always reported it as the same thing
always
actually gave rise to a massive problem as the whole call centre was falling behind on ever target
call waiting times - the time a customer would be on the phone before it was answered would rise to massive times
(almost a minute!!!
which shows how long ago it was!!!)
turns out they just reported everything as one thing - and only logged then every now and again as they assumed that logging it once an hour would show us what to fix
so all we saw was one or two terminals going wrong an hour - which could eaisly be caused by users wanting to go off for a tea break early and just swithcing the terminal off and reporting it as "the normal error"
so we ignored it as a minor problem
battmain@reddit
I'm too lazy to type them up, lol, but work long enough in the field and your probing questions will have a logical flow and with enough time, you'll know most of the answers to those questions. And when the answers don't make sense, you will ask a different way. That's if the users didn't drive you insane first, lol.
syntaxerror53@reddit
Thought this was about the Apple Studio Monitors.
Which doesn't have a (power) switch.
(Spent an eternity wondering where'd they'd hidden it too.)
fresh-dork@reddit
over in r sysadmin, someone mentioned that their ticket resolution times dropped 40% when they added an AI autoresponder that basically did the normal first step suggestions.
maybe they just need prodding
syntaxerror53@reddit
or "this ticket will self-close if not responded to in....Now!"
Skeezix_the_Cat@reddit
Cattle?
meitemark@reddit
Cattle prods are to weak to properly work on users. You need something that goes to 400000 V and at least 3 amps. If you eyes burns out while hitting the user, you have found the sweet sport.
udsd007@reddit
POWER! To the PEOPLE!\ From a very stiff supply.
SeanBZA@reddit
Military electric fence, which has 2 settings. Normally the outer one is set to "warn" which is the legal 1s 6kv pulse, energy 8J, that serves are a very painful warning. you can change that to "lethal", which is an always on 4kV, current limited to 10A, and which will do a good job of making you regret the last half second of your life. Note does not work on rhino or elephants, the rhino has too thick a skin, and the elephants will bring in trees to drop on the fence to flatten it.
Then you get the Eskom spec, they have a heavy outer fence, and a heavy inner fence, with remote controlled gates from the control room for both. Then in between them you have a 4m wide concrete slab, with a steel rail cast into the middle. Welded to this steel (used because it is heavy, not going to rust fast, and as used rail very cheap as well) are some stubs, each topped with a 33kV isolator stack, and that in turn has on top a low galvanised mesh fence. In turn this has a gate in the entry drive, with a lock on it holding it closed, no electrics.
This middle fence is designated as a live wire area, with signs every 5m on both the inner and outer fence, and signs every 5m on the middle fence, notifying you this is always live. This then in turn is connected to the secondary of a incoming line to 33kV single phase transformer. with a set of SCADA controlled isolator switches to power the transformer, and a current transformer to measure the primary side current. Then output has a grounded secondary, and the 33kv is fed via another isolator, a recloser that will always auto retry, another current shunt, a voltage transformer, and yet another switch that will short the fence to ground when commanded. Nobody has yet made it past those, developed in the 1980's when power switching yards were very much a terrorist target, and a simple fence was not sufficient. Scada system measures that fence all the time, and sends an alert to control if there is a trip of the recloser, and the data of current and voltage at that time. then security will go there, look for the hole in the outside fence, and they then will close the hole till daytime, when somebody will go in, after the fence is confirmed off, and tested with a hot stick and a jumper from fence to the grounded rail. Then sweep the charcoal into a bag, and you are done.
Stryker_One@reddit
People will call in about their Internet outage and be shocked/outraged when told that, yes, the Cat 5 hurricane has taken out your service and no, we will not be sending a tech out during this current apocalypse.
syntaxerror53@reddit
"But the cable says cat6, surely it should withstand it".
Strazdas1@reddit
A hurricane of CAT5 cables?
lbstv@reddit
Ha, beginners mistake. This wouldn't have happened with a Cat 5a hurricane.
Salavora_M@reddit
I can see what happend here: "Well, last time there were connection issues on a new machine, back when Herman over there joined us about 5 years ago, it was this... *checks notes* ah yes! It was this port issue! So it must be the same thing again! IT, you can never trust them to do their job right! Simply open a ticket and show them this *Shows the user a photo of a monitor where the old ticket is displayed*"
K1yco@reddit
That's like saying that your car won't start to the mechanic, and then finding out that it's not that the car won't start, but the doors are locked because they lost their keys.
Strazdas1@reddit
More like they were given a new car and never got told where the lock is.
Strazdas1@reddit
Im surprised the monitors dont just go "no user input, defaulting to english" and keep doing their jobs. That looks like a proper anti-user design.
tmwagner77@reddit
My favorite was one where I knew the exact problem. And I had talked many MANY ppl thru how to fix this issue so I knew I wasnt confusing. The User, the Users supervisor, and some rando they pulled in couldnt do it. Drove 30 minutes to the remote warehouse to walk in, click-click, and leave...luckily, that warehouse was on my way home.
tmwagner77@reddit
This was before at the time, I started putting VNC on everything. Got tired of driving places to do stupid tasks. It was a grocery store chain and we had stores all over the state.
tmwagner77@reddit
'THE INTERNET IS DOWN...IT JUST SAYS PAGE CANNOT BE DISPLAYED!' ...umm, just for the hell of it, click on of your favorites thats not your homepage.... oh, hey, it works!!
GeekGurl2000@reddit
Web Guy vs Sales Dude ......
cosmiic_explorer@reddit
Similar things happen to me as a machinist! I'm a toolmaker, and people come to me with hand drawn pictures and explanations of what they want made. I always like to ask questions about WHAT it's for. I've realized so many times that people will describe in detail how they want x thing to be, when in reality they want y as a result.. and x will not get them that result. They're engineers mostly, so they assume they know best.
TheKnackThatQuacks@reddit
Classic X-Y Problem.
https://xyproblem.info
zeus204013@reddit
Like the guy was "lost" but his boss notoriously aggressive/accusative.
zeus204013@reddit
Like the guy was "lost" but his boss notoriously aggressive...
Gadgetman_1@reddit
I know EXACTLY which message they're getting on the screen. This is just one of the reasons we pre-configure ANYTHING that is sent out. And if it's possible we go ourselves to set it up. Saves so much frustration in the long run.
dplafoll@reddit
I once had someone who responded to “Right-click on XYZ” with “Which button do I use for that?” After that you learn to adjust your first principles of supporting users. There is no minimum amount of knowledge or sense that you should ever presume the user to have.
Ams197624@reddit
Oh yes, users, great.
We have several WiFi networks, one of them is our guest network that also allows the use of Internet of private phones of e.g. employees, but it doesn't (oc) give access to the company resources.
User calls me, "Is the system STILL down? I haven't been able to do anything yet today!". I respond with a "No, our systems are running, why do you think they are down?" User is furious and tells me his collegue couldn't log on (to the same laptop) either. I check some thins (AP on his office) and yes, somehow they managed to connect to the guest network. Why? I don't even want to know, prob trying to avoid some web filters we have on the domain network. But still, it is NEVER their fault stuff doesn't work...
ferrybig@reddit
Maybe they are old fashioned and are still thinking computers are just monitors to connect to the mainframe
Cyberbird85@reddit
This post triggered my PTSD.
NoAlternative2913@reddit
If I had a nickle for every time someone sent in a ticket to request permissions that they already have to fix an error that they clearly didn't bother to read... well I'd probably have a few dollars.
cjbarone@reddit
I started adding time to my tickets... Including how many people at various levels had to step in to address the ticket.
This helps if tickets are seen after being closed by management. Or just to keep your own notes.