Error Messages are way too complicated! Help me now!
Posted by Salavora_M@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 125 comments
A VERY long time ago, I worked in a meat processing plant.
Deep in the bowls of the plant was a room with three computers that ran the software for tracking (you need to be able to say what sausage came from which cow once it is all done), as well as everything needed to create the shift plan for the workers.
In order to reach it, you had to put on a hair net, shoe covers, coat and I think it was disposable gloves as well and then you had to find a way to this room that wasn't currently closed off because a machine was currently beeing cleaned (and unless you wanted to be soaking wet afterwards, you did not go near that)
Our IT Department was in the adjecent building to the plant.
One day, we got an urgent call from that room -> The shift manager wasn't able to print something very important! The dump computer only gave him an error message every time he clicked print!! HELP!!!!
I asked him to read the message to me and he replied along the lines of "Those error massages are way too complicated! You need to come here and fix it!! NOW!!"
So I went... dressed up as mentioned above... managed to find a mostly dry way to reach the room... and read the error message: "Printer out of paper. Please refill paper" (I don't remember the exact message as it has been nearly 20 years, but I remember that it certainly DID say what needed to be done)
So I refilled the paper and MIRACIOUSLY, the printer printed once more (Can not remember if I cleared the queue first or if his oh so important document had been printed like a dozen times).
The guy just stared at me, dumfounded. "That was all? I could have done that."
Me: "Well, as the error said: The printer was out of paper and needed to be refilled, so once I did that the problem was gone and the printer could print again. Any other problems I can help you with?"
He: "Uhm... no. Thanks."
goldhelmet@reddit
PC Load Letter? What the hell does that mean?
myopicmarmot@reddit
I have to say, that's one of the stupidest error messages anyone ever devised, absolutely incomprehensible to anyone who'd never seen it before. For one thing, PC ALWAYS means the computer, and using it in any other computer context is absolutely ridiculous.
I'd fight for anyone who misunderstood that on first reading.
5p4n911@reddit
PC LOAD LETTER
himitsumono@reddit
But but but .... how do you load letter into a PC? I mean, I already TYPED a bunch of letters into it. I just want to print them now.
Or is this like "ET CALL HOME" ... the PC wants to LOAD LETTER?
FWIW, I always thought that was a pretty obvious error message, albeit a stupid one. Why PC? Just LOAD LETTER would have been less confusing to most of the chimps.
chrisbucks@reddit
PC = paper cassette. Possibly the printer also has a multipurpose tray on the back which would have been MP LOAD LETTER.
himitsumono@reddit
I understand that. I've had HP printers since the original LaserJet II, I think it was. Wrote little bits of PCL code to make the display say weird stuff.
But in all this time, I'd have hoped that HP could have worked out how to talk to normal humans, not still use ITspeak.
So naive of me. Sigh.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
I feel that, as a progmmer, you develop error-message-tunnel-vision -> "Of course, 'OUT OF PPR! LOAD TR2' is easy to understand!" (Especially when you only have 20 character spaces for the message but that is why you need non-technical people in a tech team -> to find this stuff and correct it \^\^
himitsumono@reddit
This person THISses. THIS!
5p4n911@reddit
Maybe it was because every error message got prefixed with the relevant subsystem or I don't know, I ain't no HP printer, nor I have ever been
himitsumono@reddit
But but but .... how do you load letter into a PC? I mean, I already TYPED a bunch of letters into it. I just want to print them now.
Or is this like "ET CALL HOME" ... the PC wants to LOAD LETTER?
FWIW, I always thought that was a pretty obvious error message, albeit a stupid one. Why PC? Just LOAD LETTER would have been less confusing to most of the chimps.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
I would have understood if that had been the message but the story stuck with me because the message clearly stated what the problem was and how to fix it \^\^"
Narrow-Dog-7218@reddit
I worked in an office that had two sites, 200 miles apart. I got a call that a printer was not printing at the remote site. Apparently the on site IT guys were all busy. It was a printer pool (one server serving multiple printers). Over the next few minutes more of these calls came in, affecting printers all over the site. So I checked the printer server.
There was one print spooling a 50,000 page document into memory and it was taking the whole resource of the printer. Obviously getting this info took time as the server was so sluggish. I relayed the facts and the user that had sent the print. Of course they denied all knowledge, and I killed the job. Hey presto, 30 tickets cleared.
Not sure how you accidentally print 50,000 pages though.
SeanBZA@reddit
Easy, they were printing a few dozen books they got off the bay, with the intent to read them later, probably in large print, so they would not need to use glasses.
i had this one who would print hundreds of pages of diet tips, which never worked. To diet she would have had to take those tips and do the first thing, which was to limit calorie input, which was a hard thing for the one who would often eat 11 boxes of lunch before she got to work, then order 5 servings of hot chips before tea, and them make a lunch of a massive bowl of salad, complete with a whole bottle of lite salad dressing, before another 5 bags of hot chips before close of business. then complain that we were taking her "important papers" off the printer, because it was either saying "output tray full" or "Load tray 2 A4 plain", and she had not taken her stuff for the last day. As I printed direct to the printer, using a raw 9100 port link, I would often look, see the printer itself had a 40 page document in process, then cancel it, print my 2 pages, and go collect it off the top of the pile.
This was the woman who complained the 15k page toner cartridge was faulty, because it went empty in 3 days, when I looked at the server spool log she was the one who printed 5k pages in those 3 days, never admitting it to anybody. 5k pages of approx 40% toner coverage, which is a massive change from the standard 3% coverage of the typical page. good thing the refill cartridges had more than double the HP light fill in them, they filled till it was full, not a fill 50g like HP did.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
oO!
And I have started to feel bad about the like 10 pages a year I print on the company printer....
(I don't have one since I only need about 10 pages printed a year after all)
Did you at least charge her for paper and ink?
SeanBZA@reddit
No, it was because she had (again) messed up, and forgot to order a printed insert, so instead printed 5k pages of the insert, and had her staff cut them out. She printed them so she would not have to go and ask for authority to do a rush print job. RIP that HP printer, not because of the number of pages, but because she decided to try printing on Jac Split paper, which is only usable in an offset printer, both because of the gloss finish that requires rubber based ink, but also that the backing peeled off, and destroyed both the fuser roller and the main gearbox as it jammed, ad she went there and ripped the part page out, tried again, jammed it again, ripped the paper out, tried it again and this block of self adhesive goop and paper jammed up the fuser housing, and the double sided path, and thus ripped teeth off more than half the gears in the printer. That was a nice HP printer, just out of warranty.
itsadile@reddit
Damn. I get that printers are usually The Devil but no printer deserves that kind of abuse.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
oO!
Wtf....
Rathmun@reddit
Would the warranty even cover trying to feed glue through the printer? That'd be like expecting a car warranty to cover structural damage from ramming a lightpole.
Zoleish@reddit
The learned incompetence is ASTOUNDING.
Therealschroom@reddit
yeah, in my old job we had a software that did regular updates. after the update it gave a message: update done, click "ok" to continue. with an ok button beneath it. there was one secretary who called me over every single fing time because she had an "error" and coudn't continue working... I swear, if that woman did not have a husband, she would probably starve in front of the toaster while having tons of bread....
scsibusfault@reddit
It boggles the mind how often I get asked shit like "okay, I ran the software installer but now it's sitting at a screen that says "install complete, press finish", what should I do here?"
flexxipanda@reddit
Lol yout users are able to start an installer by themselves ? Consider yourself lucky.
ben_sphynx@reddit
Not necessarily. They might not be very good at selecting which installers to start by themselves.
Diskilla@reddit
Like one of our customers. Her colleague told her about the new vpn software and that she will need to install 'some kind of .exe file' and that she should call us to set it up. She googled '.exe download' and downloaded and installed a programm called eXe xhtml editor, which was the first result. Almost a week later we get chewed out by her boss because she is not able to work from hom for a whole week now... My boss clarified the situation and that we never got any calls from her to install the software. She got her working from home rights revoked and I don't think she still works there.
inportantusername@reddit
Based on my experience, some of it is just wanting to make sure they've done all they're supposed to. Of course most installers don't have anything you can hit on that screen except finish, but they don't want the one time there is something to be the one time they skip past it and just hit Finish.
Again, just based on my experience
ralphy_256@reddit
I once spent 30 mins on the phone with a "tech" who was doing a desktop motherboard replacement. Could not get the CPU to seat in the socket. I went through the cycle of "Lift the lever so it's perpendicular to the board. Place the cpu into the socket, lined up with the holes. Lower the lever so it's parallel to the board. Is the cpu seated?"
"No, lifts right off"
After about the 3rd time through this script, he pipes up with, "What should I do with this lid?"
"What lid?"
"This lid on the cpu slot that says REMOVE."
I didn't know we put covers on the cpu slots when they ship. That's on me.
rentacle@reddit
When I worked for a software company, if the customers used more instances than the licences they had, the software would keep working but it would show every user a message on login. I don't remember what it said exactly, but it was something like "You're using too many licenses, contact XYZ Company to fix, click OK to continue". You wouldn't believe how many companies called us, not because they understood that they should pay for the licenses they used, but because their users were unable to work because of the strange message that kept popping up.
Shinhan@reddit
Not directly same, but company I work for has a classifieds website. And while normal thing is for companies to buy a certain number of active classifieds (5, 50, 500...) if they go over the limit they get charged per classified per day. A small amount (that also depends on the basic package you're paying for) but it can get expensive if you aren't careful.
Geminii27@reddit
That's when you leave a formal message for their Finance division (or equivalent), and refer all incoming calls about the message to whoever in Finance is 'handling' that issue. :)
GrumpyOldGeezer_4711@reddit
I worked as a programmer on an ERP system. It is often the case that starting up a business the spouse of the person starting the business will then be employed there. (Tax reasons, those tax laws are weird!) Often being in charge of the financial side while the spouse takes care of production and so on.
One such spouse would regularly call to have a consultant come out and “fix” the software as payments hasn’t gone through.
The consultant would then find that no bills had been entered into the system because “the system should know them, they are in that binder right beside the computer!”
Obviously, she would go full Karen as well, to the point that we’d simply call her husband and tell him to take care of it, we refused to deal with that harpy. He would sigh and apologise, then have some late evenings at work…
Geminii27@reddit
Did you guys ever have clients where you simply declined to be contacted by specific people there due to this kind of thing, with them having to go through someone else every time?
I've seen this tactic used in large organizations (internally) where some user gets blacklisted and they have to go through their manager. Eventually the manager either finds a way to train them, finds a way to get rid of them, or moves on to a position where they don't have that user working for them. Sometimes the replacement will even make it instantly clear that they won't put up with the user's incompetence.
GrumpyOldGeezer_4711@reddit
Yes, there was a couple of times where that was the solution.
One or two cases, the client had been working with other suppliers and been told to leave, which is how they came to be our clients. They had a list of approved contacts, everything would go through them.
One case I was working on ended with some specific people not being allowed to call support but had to go through another person to get help.
When I was working in-house there were sometimes a user where we had to escalate to at least one level above our respective positions before they’d listen and/or stop with the verbal abuse.
It is in either case very rare that such measures become necessary, most people simply want to do their job and go home and that is achieved most simply by acting like an adult. I don’t recall anyone getting let go for this but it may count against them overall.
flexxipanda@reddit
I do consulting and support for an ERP and THIS right here is my biggest annoyance. This happens so often and those are people who are completely incompetent in a real professional field but they are in higher positions.
Nu-Hir@reddit
I worked for a company where the owner's brother was the VP and lead Sales person, his sister was part time HR (and the only HR person), his kids were tech support (but were never worked a day while I was there), and his wife would just randomly come in and decorate.
Therealschroom@reddit
yup, those are the Moments I actually enjoy beeing a 41 year old bachelor tbh. poor boss.
Geminii27@reddit
This is where you need to call their manager over. Every time. "Manager, could you read this [employer business name] screen instruction for your employee? Apparently they weren't trained on it."
flexxipanda@reddit
Had a colleagus come to me because a pop up. It said "your data which is displaying isnt up to date. Please refresh it." And only an OK button. And you could not do anything besides clicking refreshm.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
*shudders at the images this post provokes*
Some users are... interesting.
Although that does remind me of another story in that same plant, that I might write about later, thanks \^\^"
P5ychokilla@reddit
I knew as soon as it had an error it was gonna be paper. I would've tried seeing if his mouth functioned as a mailbox so he doesn't forget the paper again.
pockypimp@reddit
At my last job IT was in charge of the printers but users were still supposed to call in to service. But we'd get these tickets of "the printer doesn't work!". So before sending an email to the user and their manager I'd check the printer status. A lot of the time it'd be "Printer Jammed" or "Out of Paper". Those emails were fun to write.
I remember one manager replied "Well aren't you going to clear the jam?" so I got to send a reply with my manager included.
"That would be a local problem to resolve, someone on site should do that following the instructions that the printer shows on the screen. If that doesn't work you'll need to call service with the information from the sticker on the front of the machine. Also I'm in California and you're in Minnesota, I'm not flying out there to clear a paper jam."
Minecraftchest1@reddit
I will clear it. Just give me 3 weeks to book a flight and get it approved through upper management.
EruditeLegume@reddit
Cue sign on printer:
"Useless IT says it'll be 3 weeks before we can use this printer"
robbak@reddit
Oh but you know how rapidly they will follow instructions dumped onto the screen by some ridiculous scareware site.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
"It could be important!"
or worse:
"It said, that I have a VIRUS!!!!!!"
daschande@reddit
"What operating system is it?"
"Windows Vista."
"...We're going to die!"
daschande@reddit
"What operating system is it?"
"Windows Vista."
"...We're going to die!"
AdreKiseque@reddit
Maybe we should just start calling error messages viruses to see if that improves things
Heffeweizen@reddit
Are you sure it didn't say PC LOAD LETTER
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Pretty sure.
But then again, it has been 20 years, so I wouldn't bet my car on it.
dickcheney600@reddit
Instructions unclear: hand stuck in printer
twhddh@reddit
Ok I’m an idiot and actually got my finger stuck in a printer once BUT I fixed the issue without calling anyone :D
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Your self suffiecentcy has been appreciated \^\^
bhambrewer@reddit
... HAND! Oh, right! That's what that says...
rhunter1980@reddit
Still remember seeing someone ask, "Why are IT guys so angry?" and the first response was,"I once had to drive 3 hours one way to press a power button after THREE separate people told me the machine was on."
This right here is the same energy...
Geminii27@reddit
This is why techs need out-of-band remotely controllable microdrones with webcams. No need for real-time response, just tell the drone where to fly to in the caller's building and what to point the camera at.
SeanBZA@reddit
Can we equip them with the Ukrainian upgrades as well. Just asking. Those are a very effective remote assist tool, you rarely get a follow up call from the user.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Can we add a *instantly closes the ticket* feature to this upgrade as well?
The user might not be able to do it anymore.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
I want to kind of tripple-upvote this!
dickcheney600@reddit
I'm getting an overly complicated error message, also the WiFi router is making a really loud noise and the strobe is on!
What? The WiFi router doesn't have a strobe, and I can hear that over the phone, it sounds more like a fire alarm.
Fire alarm? Could that have been caused by the smoke coming out of the printer?
(Insert metal gear solid "alert" sound here)
Yes, please leave the building and call 911!
But it's the printer, isn't that your job?
I can't put a fire out by remote control! Are you going to leave the building, or win a Darwin Award?
Shinhan@reddit
Maybe just send an email to the fire department.
TinyNiceWolf@reddit
We'll miss you, but only if you stay right where you are.
Geminii27@reddit
I mean, I'm personally good either way, but this call might be reviewed by HR.
SeanBZA@reddit
Please wait till some help arrives, save both the planet and the company money that way.
Superspudmonkey@reddit
I would be in two minds if I would have filled the paper tray with paper. Maybe just a few sheets to test that it can print. Then advise them to read the error and do the needful.
sysadmin-84499@reddit
I to would have only put a couple of sheets in. Lazy users
lunarwolf2008@reddit
i hate when people are like my "computer is saying an error occured blah blah blah" HELP!!! and refuse to elaborate on the actual text in the error
My0therAcc0unt9@reddit
As this was “a very long time ago” (probably around the time I worked in printers too), it may very well have been that old standard error “PC LOAD LETTER”. This actually meant you needed to add letter-sized paper to the paper tray(“cartridge“?), but could very well be confusing to an end user. I have no idea why the message wasn’t clearer - something like “out of paper”. Sometimes it’s the computer industry’s fault for expecting users to be more technical. Imagine getting an error in your car saying “DOT 3 glycol-ether low” - today we could google this and figure out we needed brake fluid, but that may not have been an option “a very long time ago”.
himitsumono@reddit
>> something like “out of paper”
Or better yet: FEED ME!
deathoflice@reddit
+++?????+++out of cheese error+++
TinyNiceWolf@reddit
I've fed it three mice already. Were they supposed to be alive or not? The message is unclear.
chrisbucks@reddit
Whenever American colleagues send me a document and I blindly print it, my fully stocked printer errors and screams at me about being out of paper, because it wants a Letter size paper and we're all metric down here.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Yeah, if it had been something like that I would agree.
The story stuck in my mind though, because the error message was so damn clear and told the user what to do and it was just as clear that he had not bothered to actually read the message.
zig131@reddit
Whenever I ask "what is the error message" people either repeat the vague "it's not working" line they lead with, or start telling me where they are (thinking I said area).
Gettings users to actually read error messages to you is like pulling blood from a stone.
The worst is Windows BSODs, as it explicitly says "if you are going to call IT about this, tell them this:" but they only read the big text, and then stop.
Geminii27@reddit
It's one reason I like to try and enforce every error message (in internal software, anyway) having its own short identifying alphanumeric string.
The trick then is having it display in any way where a caller will read everything except that string. About the only thing I've found to work is using a string of random dictionary nouns; at least users might consider them words (if confusingly used), rather than background gibberish.
TinyNiceWolf@reddit
You could also try Star Trek-style technobabble. "Alternative hypertextual core interlock failure".
Alitazaria@reddit
I'm not IT, I just enjoy reading these posts. I literally have a picture on my phone of an error message so I can transcribe it for my help desk ticket and don't miss anything.
(can't do a screenshot because the computer isn't networked - this is my error issue! - and I'm too lazy to find a flash drive)
rhoduhhh@reddit
My users who take pictures/screenshots of the errors are the ones who will (usually, 99.99999% of the time) get their problems fixed the fastest, so bless you for that.
Geminii27@reddit
As long as the error message isn't obscured by a blinding reflection from the office window. :)
Alitazaria@reddit
It worked for me too! I put in the ticket around 8am and it was fixed by 10am. #winning
BrentNewland@reddit
Even better is when they skim and paraphrase the message to you in their own words. "Please read the error message to me word for word so I can look it up and see if there are any quick fixes."
shiftingtech@reddit
I am so glad that the only help-desk-ish thing I do these days is voluntary, not paid. So I can just pull things like "okay, cool, well, next time that error comes up, grab the text & let us know", and then just...leave the conversation. No argument, just, "here's what you need to do to get help", then leave.
K-o-R@reddit
"I do this and it says 'blah blah blah blah blah' and I can't do anything."
"No, it does NOT say 'blah blah blah', there are words with meanings. Stop clicking through the message blindly and read the words. You are an ENGLISH teacher. You of all people KNOW that words have meanings."
AbaloneMysterious474@reddit
These kinds of issues are the absolute worst to deal with.
- Program X isn't working!
- Does it show an error message?
- No, when I try to perform [action] it just gives me a box with text.
- .... And what does that text say?
- Eeh it says "exactly the step(s) needed to solve this problem"
- And have you tried doing that?
- No I just called you because it's not working.
Every day I'm stunned how some people manage to go through life with such inability to read and think. But somehow they can all perfectly navigate their phone and social media.
JeffTheNth@reddit
Good thing we have velcro shoes... not sure people could change laces these days
Geminii27@reddit
"I'm going to need to conference your manager in."
CynicalPlatapus@reddit
They make sausages from cows?
SeanBZA@reddit
Generally there is almost always a pig or three involved, because plain beef does not make for a good taste.
Though with what the USA calls sausage you may be hard pressed to find anything in there that is not soy, stale bread and other fillers, along with ground up bits of all non edible parts of the chicken, like the walk and talk, that go through the grinder.
Note walk and talk is local slang for chicken heads, complete with comb and beak, and feet, complete with the toe, that is boiled up and served as a street dish. comes with it's own toothpicks as well, but for sausage they grind the entire lot up, bones and all. If you hear of mechanically deboned chicken, that means they put the entire bird, right after slaughter, and after removing the guts, which are going to be boiled into animal feed, into the grinder, making it into a thick paste.
Did once have to buy 3 pigs to make sausage, seeing as i had close to 3/4 ton of Waterbuck to make into both dried sausage and dried meat. Butcher loved me for the 2 days work I paid for in a quiet week.
himitsumono@reddit
>> because plain beef does not make for a good taste.
It can. And must, if you're going to sell it as kosher or halal.
Or at least, it'd better not contain pork.
Love "the walk and talk" though I'm still mystified that people willingly (eagerly!) eat chicken feet. Been there, done that, couldn't see the point.
SeanBZA@reddit
Local butchery sell them, along with both pig heads and butt, and sheep head. They go fast. Also there are a few restaurants, 5 star and above, who order marrow bones cut into sections, that they sell for 30 times the price of the bone, as an African delicacy.
cwthree@reddit
Never had kosher salami, I take it? Beefy goodness and garlic for days.
SeanBZA@reddit
I have, and the one with pork is fa superior to it.
glimmergirl1@reddit
Smoked beef sausages are delicious, some brats can be beef as well.
3lm1Ster@reddit
Generically, sausage is ground meat and seasonings stuffed into a casing. So yes, beef sausage exists.
kandoras@reddit
I've had that on some industrial machines I programmed.
There was a step where a cylinder was supposed to extend, and when it got all the way out it would turn on a sensor. So in an attempt to make troubleshooting easier after I'd gone on to other projects and forgot most of this one, I added an error.
If the cylinder was extending, and the sensor hadn't come on within fifteen seconds, an alert would pop up on the touch panel attached to the machine.
"ERROR EXTENDING CYLINDER. EITHER CYLINDER IS BLOCKED OR SENSOR IS DAMAGED."
And right below that was a photo of the machine, with a big red arrow pointing at the cylinder.
I got called in to fix it because they said they didn't know why it wasn't working. Turns out the operator would tell it to run, the alert would pop up, and he would immediately cancel it instead of reading it.
WTF do I care? I got to listen to an audiobook for a while, got paid for the time and mileage, and only had to do about ten minutes of actual work that day.
AbbyM1968@reddit
Somewhere else on Reddit, I saw a picture of someone asking, "Why are IT such d¡××$?"
The reply, "I drove 2 hours to another site to press a power button that 3 people (worker, manager, and overseer) insisted was on."
Traveling-Techie@reddit
Somebody must be spreading the rumor that if an error message appears you have one second to click OK or Dementors will devour you.
lokis_construction@reddit
This is what is wrong with people.
Wadsworth_McStumpy@reddit
"If I go all the way there and it's just out of paper again, I'm going to spill my coffee on you. Still want me to come?"
The answer is usually something like "Let me check. No, never mind, thanks."
nymalous@reddit
For a while, I worked for a well-known printer/copier company that also provided office services (print-shop, copy center, mail room, and even security) to other companies. I was their roaming coverage (i.e., the person they call when someone is out sick or on vacation). I remember one of my accounts was a veteran's hospital and its campus sprawled over at least a couple of acres.
At that location, if was my job to support all of the copiers and printers while avoiding the "residents" (the former military members who were patients and who would occasionally have an episode... I remember being told I wasn't allowed to defend myself from them, which I found odd, but it certainly made the job exciting). Anyway, any time one of the offices on the outer edges called about a printer or a copier or a fax, I'd have to hike all the way over there, sometimes through tunnels, to find out what was wrong.
To save myself, and them, some time, I would ask them to unplug the machine while I hiked over. Many of them would "reset" if left unplugged for a certain amount of time (usually 15 minutes), at least, that's what I was told. Most of the office workers were more than happy to oblige once I explained to them the reason, especially after I told them that if it wasn't done when I got there, I'd have to do it myself and then be off to the next crisis, with no telling when I'd come back again (maybe not even that day).
It was always nice to come to an unplugged machine, plug it back in, fiddle around a bit, and then happily announce that it was fixed as it started spitting out whatever was in its queue. The office people appreciated it, I appreciated it, and I avoided most of those veterans.
The few that I didn't avoid, were pretty cool. A few were former airborne, and they talked about the antics they used to get up to when the sergeants weren't looking. Some of them would actually stop by my "office" (it was more of a storage closet) to see if I was there to chat. I miss those guys.
sammypants123@reddit
Tell me about it!
“My Teams is not working!!”
There is a big clear message “Click here to sign in again” and a button.
“Did you try clicking that?”
“I didn’t know what that meant.”
Happens several times a day at the moment. I wonder which word is the confusing one.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
My guess is "sign in" or "again", followed by "click"
my condolences!
I am happy to be out of that part of IT \^\^
AdreKiseque@reddit
Well, "sign in" is two words, so it's no wonder they were confused!
JoeDonFan@reddit
I've fixed that issue, only the user gave me the error code and when I got to the printer, the error code was not complete.
"PF A4," the user told me. "PF FILL A4," the printer told me. The user had a document from Switzerland configured for A4 paper. I explained to the user about European and American paper sizes and told her to specify 8 1/2 X 11 inch paper but the printout will look a little funny and out of proportion.
(NOTE: This was in the DOS and Windows days, running Word Perfect, so it wouldn't automatically adjust margins and stuff.)
TracyMinOB@reddit
I remember working at an engineering form eons ago. Before there were error messages yelling the user they were out of paper.
Imaging driving 45 minutes across town at premium rates just to fill the paper....
sheikhyerbouti@reddit
I no longer have patience with people who can't be arsed to give me the text of an error message, so I tell them to screenshot it and email it to me - or call back when they can actually be bothered to read text on a screen.
ITrCool@reddit
“But screenshots are too complicated I don’t know how to do that!! You are being lazy, just do your job!!”
TararaBoomDA@reddit
Just speculating here, but is it at all possible that the guy couldn't read?
AngryCod@reddit
And then you get a negative review on the survey because you "made him feel dumb".
snootnoots@reddit
“OH GOD I MIGHT HAVE TO READ SOMETHING! I MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO PROCESS THE INFORMATION THAT COMES IN MY EYES AND CHOOSE A COURSE OF ACTION BASED ON WHAT IT SAYS! NOOOOOO!!!!!”
Planetx32@reddit
He was there to process meat, not information.
Shazam1269@reddit
That's your job, Mr IT man!
Ricama@reddit
How will you ever ... manage?
harrywwc@reddit
well, considering he was a "shift (shit??) manager" not very well, apparently.
joe_attaboy@reddit
Cow sausage?
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Sure.
Their Cabanossi has both pork and beef for example.
I don't remember if they had a pure beef sausage but I have seen those at my local butchers and it has been 20 years, so even if they don't have them anymore, chances are high, they had them 20 years ago.
Then again, "Sausage" was the first english meat I could think of, that I knew they produced and since I have only ever been in boning, when they took appart cow halfs, I put the two of them together in my mind \^\^"
statman13@reddit
Learned helplessness
Adderkleet@reddit
Devil's advocate: illiterate user?
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Since he was about to print something that he had typed, I kind of doubt it.
Then again, I do not reacall what exactly he was about to print, so maybe?
bernhardertl@reddit
Sometimes I like to play along and make an effort to go somewhere because of such an error message. But when I see it I just ask the user again if they could read it to me out loud. Usually I then step back from the desk and give them a moment to process what they just read out loud and let nature run its course. Obviously I double the time I put into the ticket as per work order of my manager.
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I really should have done that back then \^\^
K-o-R@reddit
Cereal, fruit, dessert bowls? 🙂 ^bowels
Salavora_M@reddit (OP)
Oh, dessert, definitly dessert ;-)
Thanks for the info, I fixed it ( I hope \^\^)
anubisviech@reddit
Love your flair, especially how unusually long it seems.
sammypants123@reddit
Don’t ask about the secret bowls that keep the place running. You don’t want to know what’s in them.
gigawatt_with_a_J@reddit
I can feel this post in my bones.