We All Fall Down, and A Reintroduction
Posted by hbar98@reddit | talesfromtechsupport | View on Reddit | 44 comments
Hello again! Or maybe for the first time!
Some of you might remember me from such stories as Peanut Butter Jelly Drive, Interrupting Cow, and the Wireless Printer Before Time.
I've been quiet for a while, and I have a very good reason for that! I'm lazy!
Err, that's not a good reason... What was I supposed to say?
Oh! I've changed jobs and am now actually in Tech Support! For reals!
That's right: I'm now half of the one man, one woman crew that supports four US based plants, plus a Canadian warehouse, a Mexican warehouse, and a whole gaggle of remote salesmen, customer support, and a bunch of other characters from a few different countries! And I've been compiling stories... Most may only be posted after a good amount of time has passed to better abstract people and places to keep nosey nellies from making incriminating connections.
But that's ok, because I've been there for three years now and I have a few stories to tell.
So, with that introduction/reintroduction out of the way, have a recent story involving Big Blue, Old Data, and Money!
Time: August 2024
I've been with the company for nearly three and a half years at this point. It's been great: the people are generally great, the work is sometimes tough but rewarding, and I've really helped my boss out by taking over projects and most daily tasks, freeing her up to actually be able to take vacation and enjoy herself from time to time.
This was not one of those times.
Background: several years before my employment, the company I now work for was bought out by a multinational company because we were the leading producer of a very specific product catalogue that meshed well with what they produced.
The US operations kept the old name, and the tagline, "A xxxx Company" was added to show who our overlords were. In addition, our operations were forcibly catapulted into the modern era. New Cisco blades, switches, industrial switches, wifi APs, etc... were bought, installed, and configured. Old systems were removed or integrated into the new systems, including a huge migration of data into SAP.
Except for some custom software that did one thing: software that integrates the weighing scales into SAP. That software was written by a person who is No Longer Employed. And for technical reasons, that custom software was never adapted/rewritten into SAP, and calls for funding for a newer hardware system that could be brought into SAP had, heretofore, fallen on deaf ears.
You can probably guess where this is going...
One Thursday we get panicked messages that the scales aren't working. Weighing the raw product is the first step in production, so being able to correctly weigh the right product in the right mixture is very, very important.
I'm usually at the frontline of this, so I did the usual: since all the scales were affected I check the wireless connection between the scales and the system. MODAS clients are all up and working, but the scales can't get any data from SAP.
I quickly realize that this is going to be something I haven't handled yet, so I contact my boss. She's several hours away, camping, trying to enjoy some time off. Ha. Ha. Ha.
I tell her what is going on and what I've done. She checks a few things... The IBM server that hosts the scales program, as well as the old Power8, and some old data that hasn't been migrated, isn't responding. So she makes her way back.
Again, and I cannot put too find a point on this: not being able to weigh the raw product means that production can't happen. Once production runs out of already mixed raw product, no more product can be made. There's other work: finishing, shipping, etc..., but moving all of press to finishing will be tough.
To make the story progress faster, here are some highlights from This Comedy of Errors:
- My boss does a 4 hour call with our contracted third party support for the IBM server. Together, they decide that the disk backplane has gone out.
- By contract, the third party support had to have a tech dispatched with the replacement part within 4 hours of the ticket being created.
- We work on a yearly contract that is paid once a year.
- My boss rec'ed and submitted the bill 30 days before the bill was due.
- Someone in billing changed the terms to 90 days.
- The IBM server backplane went out FIVE DAYS after the contract ended.
- By this time, IBM support was closed so we had to wait until Friday.
- Even if we could get the third party paid, it would have been late into the following week before they would work with us.
- We had to buy an out-of-warranty support contract with IBM, but they wouldn't be able to send a tech until the following Monday.
- They ship the replacement part and it is rec'ed Monday morning. I note that it isn't a backplane, but the entire system board sans backplane.
- IBM tech comes out Monday late morning. He pokes around for a while and makes a long call to the IBM Support Line and comes to the conclusion that the backplane went out (which is the conclusion we came to earlier with IBM AND the third party support), but because they sent out the system board and not the backplane he couldn't help.
- IBM Tech found the right part and we had it overnighted to be delivered first thing Tuesday morning.
- After talking with the IBM tech, I discovered he had to drive several hours to our location. I quickly ask if we can pay for a hotel room so he didn't have to drive home and back the next morning. "Oh, I can't come back Tuesday as my daughter is having her tonsils removed. I should be back Wednesday or Thursday."
- My boss' heart nearly explodes. This means we would have been almost a week with no mix being made. Very Important People with Very Interesting Accents are asking questions and not liking the answers.
- Fortunately IBM says they can send someone else on Tuesday.
- Tuesday comes and the backplane is replaced, but the server isn't responding.
- I tell the new IBM Tech that I'm pretty sure the previous one put the server in Manual Mode. "Huh, look at that, he did put it in Manual Mode." My boss' heart rate slightly drops.
- It is finally up and running, but degraded because... a Hard Drive Has Died!
- Another call to IBM is made, and they send out a replacement drive, and a Tech should be on site by Friday to replace the drive.
- Drive arrives. Tech arrives. Tech drops replacement Hard Drive onto floor. Installs it anyway.
- System is back to purring like a very loud kitten. For now.
- And then most of the old scales died anyway...
Oh, at least now the funding for a new scales system has been approved!
Have a great day!
MoneyTreeFiddy@reddit
Tales of Tarer.
Rathmun@reddit
Where in Tarenation did you get that pun?
MoneyTreeFiddy@reddit
I weighed my options heavily, and went with it.
Rathmun@reddit
I'd pan your reply, but on the balance we need to scale up the quantity of puns here.
Slackingatmyjob@reddit
All this talk of weights means measures need to be taken
HMS_Slartibartfast@reddit
That would be a MASSIVE request to fulfill!
earphonecreditroom@reddit
Thanks a ton for your understanding
docstens@reddit
Puns are inappropriate for a company that has lost its weigh.
Stryker_One@reddit
Here I am thinking that Tarer is intended to be pronounced like Tahrir, and getting flash backs of the Arab Spring.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Ooh, that's good!
LucasPisaCielo@reddit
Good story. Well told. Thankfully no use of $chars.
Question: Did anyone try with good luck charms on the system?
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Thank you for your kind words.
I did say the standard IT prayer: Please let this be cheap because we don't have room in the budget...
Sadly, it was Not Cheap.
SeanBZA@reddit
But a budget was found, and it was not IT's budget.......
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Yeah, and strangely production still had plenty of budget left this year...
ascii4ever@reddit
Its always fun when management doesn't want to spend money on critical systems.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
But we did get a new parking lot with a couple of EV chargers.......at a different office building...
techslice87@reddit
Funny that you bring a scale story. I just had a contractor call me yesterday. They were on location to calibrate shipping scales and he called to ask if I had a manual for the one he was working on. That inspired confidence...
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Yeah.... some of those scales can have some weird instructions.
SeanBZA@reddit
Do you have those that need a special dongle, no longer available from the manufacturer, to place the unit into maintenance mode, where you can run through all the arcane menu selections, numbers only, and set the right magic constants to calibrate it.
But I do have some masspieces that are only 2 steps away from the standard kilogram, and I did get to see the local copy of the standard in it's glass case, in a smallish safe, inside the massive underground vault that houses it by me.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
I wouldn't know. Calibration is handled by an outside company. Which is just fine by me.
__wildwing__@reddit
Back in 2003, I had an issue with my eMac. I was in college, didn’t have a car or license, and was nowhere near a city with a repair center. However, I had AppleCare on my computer. Instead of paying nearly $100 to ship my computer somewhere to be worked on, I opted to have a “certified” Apple technician come to my dorm to do the repair.
Shows up, let him in the dorm, bring him to my room, point out the computer, and go hang out in the living room. Few minutes later, he comes out, to ask me where the power button is. Aghast, I walk back in to show him. He has a step by step printed manual that he’s working from. Ffs. I decided to stay and watch, since apparently this was his FIRST Mac he’s worked on.
Had to take the damned thing apart and put it together properly when he left.
Amber9572@reddit
Dropping the drive and installing it anyway is straight out of BOFH
capn_kwick@reddit
Hopefully the "someone" in billing is/was given what for about deciding they knew better than the technical people how important that support contract was. And that their department is paying the bills for last minute IBM support and rush parts delivery.
Side question: I've worked with IBM support on numerous occasions over the years and a "production system down" rates as a severity 1 which means that nobody (IBM and customer) goes home until it's fixed.
I'll bet there were error logs on the IBM systems that were being ignored (or nobody knew they existed).
hbar98@reddit (OP)
I'm going to be honest: that particular IBM system is pretty much a black box for me. It is pretty old, out of warranty, and we didn't have a support contract with IBM--just the third party company (which had always worked out well for us... until they didn't get paid, but I can't fault them for that). I am unsure of the details of the emergency service we bought from IBM, but like you I would have thought that a production down would have warranted a faster response.
(Though, if I were a betting man, this may have been one of the major deciding factors of getting funding approved for a modern system that integrates was SAP.)
capn_kwick@reddit
If nothing else, maybe the outage will light a fire with somebody that "we need to get this replaced now".
inucune@reddit
All things in Balance?
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Not yet, because we don't have the new equipment yet, and most of the portable scales are dead... so not balanced yet lol.
green_dragon527@reddit
Oh wow Power 8. Was this custom software written in RPG by chance? 😂
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Ha! To be perfectly honest, anything dealing with the IBM server is pretty much a black box for me.
pockypimp@reddit
Hah reminds me of my last job, same kind of manufacturing environment. When I got hired the company I worked for was part of a big international group based in Germany. We too were "A XXX company" tagline.
They too had SAP, except their SAP rollout had gone horribly wrong. When I was hired our company did not use SAP yet. We did a slightly different manufacturing (raw goods as opposed to finished) and our ERP was so ancient that it would require manual setup for SAP. SAP had gone so bad for the rest of the company by so many failures it seems that they had problems billing customers and paying vendors. In need of funds they sold our company off to a VC.
My coworker who had been around for the SAP rollout at another site said people were just turning around and going home because things were either so broken or just completely down.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Fortunatly I wasn't here for the initial SAP rollout, but I was here when we integrated another one of our production plants into SAP that hadn't been integrated yet.
It went pretty smoothly, except for the internet part... that particular plant has horrible internet and since SAP is highly dependant upon the quality of the connection.... and since the SAP servers were hosted overseas... that part was a bit of a hinderance.
robsterva@reddit
Someone in billing needs to be told that they're not paid to change anything, and then be told to find more suitable employment.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Our former CEO put that policy in place. He was one of those business guys who thought it was a good idea to push out paying people as far out as we could while demanding that we get paid ASAP.
I am not entirely sure that our current CEO is either aware of this policy or cares.
robsterva@reddit
I would imagine/hope that the newer CEO is aware of the policy now that it's blown up on you.
And I wonder if the previous CEO is "former" because of financial shenanigans like that...
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Without getting too far into the weeds, the current CEO has been in place for over a year now (maybe two??) and the policy hasn't changed.
The previous CEO was removed due to performance that didn't meet the standards of People With Very Interesting Accents. BUT, because he has Special Knowledge of a very important topic, he has been retained as a contractor... Which, ok I guess.
meitemark@reddit
Just change this "Someone's" pay to 90 days. Just once, I'm going to guess it will not repeat itself.
Naf623@reddit
You tell stories very well indeed, I had a good laugh. I'll have to check out your past stuff.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Thanks!
Stryker_One@reddit
Did they send out Linus S. to do the install?
hbar98@reddit (OP)
He's funny, but I wouldn't let him anywhere near our data center.
Loko8765@reddit
Disk backplane, disk, and scales… sounds like you had an electrical event… an overload, if you will.
hbar98@reddit (OP)
Hah!
SoItBegins_n@reddit
Congratudolences.
dontBel1eveAWordISay@reddit
I'm so sorry for your success.