How do people feel about anyone dressing up as Jimmy saville on stag dos/nights out?

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KeyLog256@reddit

As a joke on a night out - fine.

Visiting a children's hospital on a charity event - not fine.

I'm always very suspicious of people with no sense of humour about such things, and an inability to distinguish when something is and isn't OK when it comes to stuff like that. Anyone should be suspicious too.

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jennnkins94@reddit

How is it fine to dress as a rapist pedo? 🤮

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imminentmailing463@reddit

Equally, anyone should be suspicious of people who can't (or won't) appreciate that other people may not share their idea of what is funny and 'fine'.

In my experience rather too often people who engage in that sort of confrontational humour aren't very good at appreciating that other people may not share their sense of humour.

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lurkerjade@reddit

Totally agree with this. I wouldn’t bash someone for doing this, nor would I go out of my way to let them know I wasn’t amused, but I wouldn’t personally find it funny. People are allowed to not find something funny just as much as they are allowed to make the joke.

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squigs@reddit

Agree with this.

Too many people want to police what others find funny or not funny.

If some people find it funny it doesn't mean they approve of Jimmy Saville or anything. In fact it probably means they find it shocking, but they find humour in that. If people don't, it doesn't mean they lack a sense of humour. They just don't find shock humour funny.

Unless there's actual harm being done, like with certain "pranks" I'm willing to let them be.

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imminentmailing463@reddit

Exactly. It's something I find a bit frustrating in our current attitudes to controversial humour. There's so much focus on people's right to do it, which isn't balanced by an equal appreciation of people's right to criticise it. So many people seem to want the right to offend but protection from any consequences of causing offence.

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KeyLog256@reddit

Well I'd agree it isn't amusing to me personally, and in terms of complexity and cleverness it isn't a Stewart Lee routine. But you can't go around policing what other people should or shouldn't find funny based on your own personal tastes.

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imminentmailing463@reddit

I agree, that's precisely my point. Very often in my experience the people who engage in that sort of humour absolutely want to police how other people feel about it. They're often not very good at accepting that other people may find it not at all funny, and even offensive, and that that's absolutely a legitimate reaction.

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DismalAd2452@reddit

You're suspicious of people who dont have the exact same sense of humour as you? Personally I think finding a Jimmy Saville costume funny is a pretty good indicator of a someone without a sense of humour. What's the joke?

"haha guys remember Jimmy Saville, he was bad, now I'm Jimmy Saville haha, super funny right guys? Haha edgy, right? Super cool and subversive, right? Right? Right guys...right......tell me I'm edgy and cool and subversive...please."

Its a joke for people who are desperate for a reaction, but not clever enough to be funny, so they just do something outrageous.

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Proof_Promise_4921@reddit

You might not want to watch 28 years later then

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DampFlange@reddit

I suffered similar abuse as a child, and I wouldn’t be offended, but I love tasteless jokes, so probably not the best judge of something like this.

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Rich-Wrangler6701@reddit

Explains a lot you should send suicide prevention to yourself although the world would be best off sad old twat

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Martipar@reddit

I'd feel like they were trying to cause a fuss, the type of person who goes out looking for a fight and won't be satisfied until they get one.

I've seen it many times, they will turn up to a pub or club and do everything they can to get on someone's way, keep people away from the woman they are with and just cause a fuss until they get a punch thrown at them.

I'm glad it doesn't happen where i drink but I've seen it in pieces I've worked, the same faces, the same aggressive attitude. A couple of years ago i see a blacked up white person in full "Cool Runnings" attire with an afro-Carribean wig on and the pub the guy was outside was typical of that sort of thing. I walked past trying to work out how anyone thought it was a good idea.

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BobBobBobBobBobDave@reddit

Pretty bad taste. I imagine if you are someone who suffered child abuse, it might be worse than bad taste, too, as it is trivialising it a bit.

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Individual-Meeting@reddit

I don't see it as taking the piss out of victims or paying homage, it's a pisstake of the man himself isn't it really? Dressing up as him on Halloween like a scary ghoul, and in fairness he was a grim sight in his later years.

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Littleloula@reddit

A stag do is a bit different to Halloween though

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Individual-Meeting@reddit

Ah I assumed that was included in there, I feel like I prob does count as nights out though tbh.

I still think the same, it's a pisstake of the man himself not the victims.

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tunapurse@reddit

he had thousands of victims, imagine passing someone in the street who was victimsed by him personally whilst dressed as him, unlikely but possible, and would be very cuntish indeed

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RebuildingTim@reddit

I'd find it fucking hilarious, but my humour is dark. For a lot of people with a dark sense of humour, the humour comes from the controversy factor, and in this case it doesn't actually mean they condone Saville's behaviour or are making light of what he did, they're just finding it funny to be controversial and noise people up.

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BasicallyClassy@reddit

Dark humour comes from your own pain.

Humour that comes from other people's pain is just being a thick cunt

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RebuildingTim@reddit

Piss poor armchair psychology and far, far too generalised. Completely disagree.

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colonialpeacefurnace@reddit

Why do people find it funny to be a bit shitty though?

If there is actually a dark joke in there, I may or may not find it funny, but I get it. Like if you dress up as Jimmy Saville with an inflatable satan buggering you attached to your back, I probably won’t laugh but I’ll get the joke.

But if the joke is literally “remember this child rapist, check out the edge on me, lol”, I don’t really get it. It’s just a little bit shitty and very embarrassing for them.

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RebuildingTim@reddit

I get that, that's definitely a valid opinion too.

For me it's purely funny because of the controversy. My usual - albeit tame - example is farting in church. Farting isn't funny to me, but as soon as you do it somewhere you're not supposed to (best example I could think of would be church) then it becomes hilarious.

Totally dependent on people's humour though. It's definitely in bad taste, that's undeniable, but it'll appeal to a certain type of humour.

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colonialpeacefurnace@reddit

Your example is flawed because farting is objectively funny.

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RebuildingTim@reddit

Fair 😂

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No-Firefighter-9257@reddit

Putting the moral question to one side, I think that in this age of social media, it’s very silly to go out in public dressed in a way that could cause offence. it only takes a few photos uploaded online and someone making a complaint to your workplace for you to loose your job. Or for perspective employers to put your job application in the bin after googling your name

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Friendly_External345@reddit

If its a kids party, then probably beat not.

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bertiebasit@reddit

I’d assume he has similar interests

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Old_Profit_9967@reddit

I'd probably laugh but then again I'm the kinda bloke who has a bad taste in humour. I definitely laugh at things I know I shouldn't. So this sorta thing would make me laugh tbh.

If it where a zombie saville it would make me laugh some more. I'm not gonna judge anyone for making that sorta costume tbh. It's in bad taste for sure but it is funny

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BasicallyClassy@reddit

Would you laugh if Saville had abused one of our family members?

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Old_Profit_9967@reddit

Depends if I liked em tbh....

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BasicallyClassy@reddit

Oh, one of those.

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nj-rose@reddit

A ghostly Saville with burnt bits and soot from being in he'll would be ok too. Not that I believe but for him I wish it was true.

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jewelofthegalaxy@reddit

Same.

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Own-Nefariousness380@reddit

He’s a rapist, there’s lots of other people to dress up as. I’d assume the person is an arsehole.

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One_Huckleberry3923@reddit

I'd probably find it funny. Too many saying they would say something are just virtue signalling cunts.

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ScumBucket33@reddit

Pretty standard behaviour for the best man to dress the stag in the most embarrassing way possible. I’ve never seen a Savile costume in Scotland but you can’t go out on a Saturday night and not see one or two stags in a dress.

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imminentmailing463@reddit

I find it cringey tbh. It's the sort of 'edgy' humour 15 year old boys like, but which a dispiritingly large number of men never seem to grow out of.

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Top_Explanation_3383@reddit

Because it's funny you old misery

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colonialpeacefurnace@reddit

Is raping kids funny though?

I think a lot of these things that are only funny to people who haven’t gone through it are kind of cringe. The reason 15 year olds tend to find it funny is that they only know of it as something that annoys adults and they find that reaction funny. They don’t understand anything about the bad shit in the world.

Like dead baby jokes- they’re usually dished out by people who’d absolutely shit themselves if they even saw a dead baby nevermind try to resuscitate one or have to push one out of their body. You know immediately that person is making the joke from a kind of innocence. It’s ok for teenagers. I’ve probably done stuff like that as a teenager. But very annoying in adults.

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stffucubt@reddit

Funny to loads of people, sadly. But that's how humans deal with trauma, as well. Frankie Boyle saying the number one cause of pedophilia is sexy kids is the same thing in essence. Dressing up as Saville is terrible taste but not surprising.

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DonkeyHornery@reddit

The man is hilarious. Not the actions. Just the man that did them

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mrgadd4@reddit

What's the joke exactly? Lol I'm dressed as a paedo! How inappropriate! If that's funny to you, go nuts, but it's not exactly the cleverest joke in the world.

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imminentmailing463@reddit

Got some shocking news for you, comedy is subjective.

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Flippin_Heckles@reddit

Now then! Now then!

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Master_Block1302@reddit

Preposterous tales in the life of Ken McKenzie.

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TentativeGosling@reddit

Please explain how it's funny, as I don't understand the punchline...

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ShameMeIfIComment@reddit

Don't you get it, he raped children and debased corpses! Surely the comedy value is self-explanatory! /s

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PushDiscombobulated8@reddit

I personally don’t find a child rapist and grave fucker humorous. Each to their own.

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Sunbiggin@reddit

Now then, now then.

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WerewolfNo890@reddit

Rather self-righteous of you to judge other peoples sense of humour.

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imminentmailing463@reddit

If you actually think about the logic of your statement that's quite an odd thing to say. Comedy is subjective. It's bizarre to say it's self-righteous to not enjoy someone else's sense of humour.

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WerewolfNo890@reddit

Not enjoying it is fine, but don't act like its wrong for other people to enjoy it.

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imminentmailing463@reddit

I haven't.

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TaffWolf@reddit

this post is asking for humour to be judged you numpty

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oktimeforplanz@reddit

If thinking it's weird to make jokes about a prolific child seexual abuser makes me self-righteous, then so be it really. I suspect my point of view is only a problem with people who have really shite senses of humour and I don't want to be around them anyway. That's a win.

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DeadBallDescendant@reddit

Eh?

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Kaiisim@reddit

Right? Its something to do to provoke a reaction.

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PomegranateV2@reddit

It's definitely edgelord behaviour.

On the other hand, imagine if you did look like Jimmy Saville. You'd be missing a trick not to at least get a joke out of it.

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welsh_cthulhu@reddit

I love the fact that you think this kind of behavior is limited to males.

Deluded.

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Gadgie2023@reddit

Give it five seconds of your day and move on with your life.

Ever been to a bad taste party? I’ve seen some shockers.

Gary Speed - Welsh kit with a noose round your neck.

Shannon Matthews

Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.

All by pissed up students, years ago. Long before Instagram.

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seven-cents@reddit

Yeah, not funny in any sense of the word. Disgusting individual, absolute scum of the earth.

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NinaHag@reddit

I know, right? Like, where's the joke? What's funny about dressing up as a paedo? How would someone who was abused as a child feel when seen that dude dressed up, having a laugh with his mates, probably enjoying the attention?

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seven-cents@reddit

Disgusting. Reddit at its finest

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middleparable@reddit

So glad I personally do not know anybody who would think it appropriate to dress as someone who is a known pedo. Nothing at all funny about an adult who sexually violates children

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WerewolfNo890@reddit

Context depending it kinda is. You can joke about all sorts of horrible things but not necessarily with anyone. If your audience laugh, its a good joke.

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NinaHag@reddit

The thing is, people who have been sexually abused don't usually tell everyone, so you may be thinking that it's fun to make that joke in a certain group when, actually, there's a paedo's victim present who may even laugh, yet not find it funny at all.

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middleparable@reddit

Ok, i find that so fucking weird that you and others would find that type of content funny. I would feel thoroughly uncomfortable joking about or being in the presence of someone who jokes about a child being raped.

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d_smogh@reddit

Expect to get some verbal abuse thrown your way. You'll definitely be called various names.

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KindRoc@reddit

Very bad taste especially in Leeds of all places where he did a LOT of offending.

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yorkspirate@reddit

Even mentioning his name here in Scarborough can cause fights so it’s something I find in bad taste unless you are with the right company.

Make jokes about it with your friends in a living room ?? Fine, I’m terrible for that

Go out on the town dressed like it ? Definitely not, cringy not edgy

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Toffeemanstan@reddit

Mentioning his name can cause fight? Sure it can mate.

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yorkspirate@reddit

Bearing in mind he had a street named after him here, a house here and the hospital was where some of the crimes took place emotions run high so yes making a quip and mentioning his name can get you in trouble

Plus at least one local big wig was named in operation yewtree

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Fair_Preference3452@reddit

What’s to fight about though? Are some people saying he wasn’t a big paedo?

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yorkspirate@reddit

It’s associating him with the area. I learnt a few years back as a fresh faced incomer it’s not worth the risk

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Fair_Preference3452@reddit

Well he’s from Leeds or something wasn’t he? Not Scarborough

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Other_Exercise@reddit

A street in Leeds named after Savile? Are you sure? Around me it's a common street name, due to it being the last name of the Earl of Mexborough, a local landowner.

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scrotimus-maximus@reddit (OP)

Agreed

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ApprehensiveElk80@reddit

To be fair, locals might see it as dark humour - never underestimate the British sense of twisted amusement

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Arsewhistle@reddit

I expect that most of the locals really wouldn't be arsed

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ApprehensiveElk80@reddit

I need to ask about the talents your username suggests.

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Fast-Key-66@reddit

Saville died an innocent man. Paul Gadd however is a convicted paedo. Surely dressed as Gary with the Glitter band is more "edgy"

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Suspicious-Union-140@reddit

I work in a pub and one weekend we had a stag party in of let's say various offenders. We had Jimmy, Rolph, Adam Johnson, the footballer who kicked his cat. And various other ropey dress up, Jeffrey Dahmer was one. Think my face said it all when that lot strolled in.

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DauntlessCakes@reddit

Inappropriate, I'd say

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Lxcafont@reddit

Its only funny because saville was distinctive about what he looks like. You see a Blue tracksuit, Blonde short hair and (occasionally) red glasses you instantly think jimmy saville. I think that's what i find funny about it.

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steak-and-kidney-pud@reddit

I'm more concerned that I don't think a single person in this thread has spelt his surname correctly.

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SeniorSeries3202@reddit

I can't even comprehend how someone could be bothered by that. I think a Saville costume is kind of immature, but being offended by immature things is also immature. Get over it man, someone was dicking around

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tunapurse@reddit

you cant comprehend how its offensive? maybe that someone has a relative who was abused by saville? he abused thousands of people mate. maybe they where sexually abused themself unrelated to the saville situation?

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takesthebiscuit@reddit

Is the guy next to him dressed as prince andrew?

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Banditofbingofame@reddit

Was hilarious 15 years ago.

Done to death now.

Not arsed about the offence

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Chance-Bread-315@reddit

Disgusting. What's the joke meant to be?

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jewelofthegalaxy@reddit

There are a few fancy dress shops around there and it happens every weekend so just used to it. There are hoards and hoards of students dressing up. And you see same ones repeated.

Tbh, I echo some of the others I have a bad sense of humour and laughed when I saw it. Not for the victims of course but that slimy, disgusting guy deserves ripping the piss out of. It's just fancy dress with pissed up students. I think if it's not to your taste then that's fine.

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kbm79@reddit

Is there a heiracy of offensive people to dress up as? Harold Shipman? Fred West? Ian Huntley?

Who decides where the line is?

Context is key. Saville on a stag do is ok, Saville at a childrens cancer fundraiser not so...

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Coconutpieplates@reddit

I'd give an eye-roll, but that's it. It's edge-lord behaviour to dress as a peado who abused young girls for decades without justice, but it's also unimaginative and all-around unfunny imo. It's the sort of outfit guys try to signal they have a sense of humour with, but they turn out to be drier than a digestive.

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Breakwaterbot@reddit

Wouldn't do it myself or expect any of my friend groups to but at the same time, I would find it quite funny if I saw it on a night out. Yeah, it's dark humour, and it's a good way to get yourself in bother with someone that doesn't take it as a joke but it's relatively harmless in that situation.

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pinpoint321@reddit

I think there’s a difference between how things are now and how they were then. Now - Then, Now - Then.

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Realkevinnash59@reddit

it's just a joke. they're not making light of the victims, they're emphasizing how much of a wrong-un he was.

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Ready_sorted@reddit

Bad taste for sure. Me, personally I don’t have a problem with it. But who dares should be prepared for the consequence’s. That’s definitely something that could end up in the press or get you sacked for (depending on where you work of course.) not worth the risk if you ask me.

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Bravo_November@reddit

To be honest it just comes across as a bit trashy? I don’t get offended easily and I probably wouldnt care that much, but I just dont think its that clever or funny - it comes across more as attention seeking and crass.

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yoboylandosoda@reddit

It wouldn't bother me. I'd just think 'That person wants some attention.'

I find it weirder people dress up as school kids. Never really understood why anyone would want to dress up a 'sexy kid' but I imagine most of them are quite comfortable saying '16 is legal'

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Western-Ship-5678@reddit

Knowing people who've done it it's more to do with it appearing offlimits rather than any overt attraction to people that age. Like how nurses are supposed to "behave themselves", firefighter policemen are supposed to be "professional".. subverting that is part of the fun. School uniform is just another marker of a part of life where sex was off limits. So subverting it as adults is fun. Obviously there are people who make it weird, I'm not referring to them. I'm just saying most of my friends of both sexes who've gone to "Skool Dayz" type events do so because it's "a bit naughty" not because they're all closet pedos.

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Right_Top_7@reddit

Good banter.

The fact you think its out of order shows it is working.

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BuggersMuddle@reddit

It's just so unoriginal

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willy1917@reddit

Gross, its not funny dressing up as a pedophile. Had this chat before with my mates were 1 of them went on a stag doo when this happened. He didn't say nothing at the time but we agreed it's tasteless. Somethings aren't funny.

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MelodicAd2213@reddit

I’d find it poor taste really and hope you’d not be in the vicinity of any of his victims, unlikely but not an impossibility.

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hellhound28@reddit

I wouldn't do it, and I know my husband wouldn't because he hates fancy dress.

You don't get to dress up as a prolific pedo/rapist/horror clown and expect no one to say anything about it, so as another commenter mentioned, it does feel a bit "try hard". It's certainly in bad taste. However, that's about as much thought I would give it if I saw it in the wild.

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WerewolfNo890@reddit

Can't be bothered to give a shit about it, if they want to whatever. As long as they are not actually abusing children I don't care.

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Meguuunn@reddit

It’s in poor taste for sure. My grandmother actually met him once at the hospital after her heart attack.

She said he seemed quite nice, but clearly she is a poor judge of character.

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Littleloula@reddit

He had to have been nice to enough people or he wouldn't have got away with it as long as he did

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DarthMaulofDathomir@reddit

Funny

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DWOL82@reddit

I would be unconcerned, but then again I have good working humour.

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toogoodtobetrue2712@reddit

Unfunny & overdone

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_shagger_@reddit

Maybe on halloween

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Aylez@reddit

Pretty funny tbf, right up my street

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BppnfvbanyOnxre@reddit

It is pretty cringe but then the whole stag do piss up is cringe.

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Friendly-Sun8478@reddit

I would just think knob head and avoid like the plague, you've got to be a real dick to do that

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BigMikeAshley@reddit

Before everything came out about him, my mate dressed up as him for some daft Uni Halloween dress-up.

We're not allowed to post that photo anymore. My mate became a teacher...

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Rolldeep01@reddit

I was in manchester once, outside a pub. All of a sudden somthing like 10 dudes ran round the corner all dressed as babies... running away from their (I assume) stag, who promptly followed running round the corner dressed as Jimmy saville... many people laughed

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TentativeGosling@reddit

It's low effort, unoriginal, "edge lord" type of funny that most people grow out of, but unfortunately some people don't. There's literally no humour in it other than thinking "being contraversial" is a punchline. On par with thinking dead baby jokes are the funniest thing on the planet, whereas in reality it's just bland.

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therealijc@reddit

Not arsed.

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Relative-Dig-7321@reddit

I wouldn’t be offended, and even if I was offended I have enough common sense not to express it.

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Pale-Tutor-3200@reddit

That's fuck all, I've seen Saville, Glitter and Jackson up the toon on Halloween!

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SlightProgrammer@reddit

Will never forget leaving the gate late on Saturday night to be greeted by willy wonka and a bunch of dwarves dressed as oompa loompasb elting out all the tunes from the film.

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TentativeGosling@reddit

Fancy dress or the actual guys?

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Individual-Meeting@reddit

For some reason Glitter shocked me, but the others I don't care?

...I think Saville especially as an old man makes quite a good and grim-scary costume tbh! Jacko too, in his thriller era especially. Idk, it just doesn't bother me.

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Ronnie-Hotdogz@reddit

Toon or teen?

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Pale-Tutor-3200@reddit

🤣😂🤣 up the toon probably looking for teens

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theabominablewonder@reddit

Only if it's a slutty Jimmy Saville. Same rules as Hitler, basically.

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Pazuzuspecker@reddit

It'd be a good excuse to smoke some Monte Christos. Not to abuse miors though. Not that.

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ILikeXiaolongbao@reddit

I once had a conversation with someone at a Halloween party.

They had a tracksuit and blond hair on.

I said: nice Saville outfit haha.

It was Violet Beauregarde.

I wanted the ground to swallow me up.

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