Are Cooper tires decent?
Posted by Original_Method_9199@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 105 comments
My local tire shop was advertising them to me as a premium tire that they had a special on for a better price. However, I do not know which model and I can’t find a lot of information on line about them. Pep boys has a deal going on for Cooper Adventurer all seasons but can’t find much on those specifically.
Tires will be going on my wife’s 2020 Toyota Corolla. We live in the SE, so no chance of snow and it’s usually hot and wet. She drives less than 10k miles a year so tires will probably dry rot before tread wears out like her current ones. Don’t mind paying a premium price but I really am trying to find the best value. Any and all feedback is appreciated. It was much easier to find info and opinions on line when I bought my all terrains for my truck.
Choice_Drink_4868@reddit
Tengo una guagua Econoline 250 1994 y uso gomas cooper, pero a los 10 años tengo que cambiarlas, pero con el rodaje a más de mitad de uso todavía, o sea nunca se me a gastado una goma
Loopsloopsloops@reddit
No they are not good
smellybear666@reddit
I have never wanted to buy cooper tires. Just never liked them for no good reason,
Depends on the tire. I was looking for something less expensive but still good for my car since it's at the end of it's life. I do get snow and they had a winter rated all season that was very highly rated at tire rack for my car.
After getting them on, I was pleasantly surprised. They weren't that cheap, but a lot less than Michelines. They are quiet and have a very good ride at highway speeds. I have yet to test them in snow, that will have to wait until the winter.
Go to tire rack, put in the car and the year, and you'll find tons of reviews that can help point you in the right direction.
eks789@reddit
How are they in winter?? I know it’s been over half a year lol, but I’m looking to get coopers for my 21 y/o suv that’s at the end of its life now too
smellybear666@reddit
Sorry to say I can't tell you. The car wound up with too many other issues and I sold it. I think they were rated pretty well in the snow.
militaryman1980@reddit
I would consider Cooper a mid range tire. They’re not cheap but they’re not premium. I have a 2007 Tacoma and it’s got 300,000 miles on it so I’ve ran many sets of tires. Ran Cooper for two rotations good years for a couple rotations Michelin for a few. The Michelin and Goodyear were superior quality to the Cooper but it wasn’t that big of a difference so you really can’t go wrong. By either one of those three brands and you’ll be fine.
bitzzwith2zs@reddit
Cooper is owned by Goodyear... nothing WRONG with them
DanR5224@reddit
At least they're not made with Goodyear quality!
BothPartiesAreDumb@reddit
I’ve always had Goodyear tires and had zero complaints. They make great touring and truck tires and I don’t understand the hate.
Digitaltim1@reddit
They denied my $100 rebate...goodyear stated the product wasn't on the invoice, but it clearly was...dealership installed. So now I'm switching to Continental tires next purchase.
Mysterious_Ad7461@reddit
Because G159s killed a bunch of people
BothPartiesAreDumb@reddit
So a 23 year old issue long since remediated is the reason for not getting good tires? gtfo
DanR5224@reddit
The common failures I saw while at a Goodyear retailer in back 2001, I still see today. And I don't even work in a shop anymore. Their tires tend to leave you wanting them to be better.
Contentpolicesuck@reddit
That sucks to hear. I hope they keep making the tires in the US.
samuelweston@reddit
They make Cooper light truck tires where I live in Texarkana. They are trying to increase their workforce right now
lpg975@reddit
All but one set of Coopers I've owned have been US made, thankfully.
BoondockUSA@reddit
I disagree.
Since the last 5 to 10 years, Cooper SUV and truck tires have a common trend to start dry cracking fairly early within their warranty period. To make it worse, Cooper does NOT answer their phones or emails to take reports of warranty claims and assist in a resolution.
My last two set of Coopers had premature sidewall dry cracking. I didn’t notice the cracking on my CUV’s AT3 4S tires until after the 3 year warranty had passed, but I emailed them to see if there was anything that could be done. I didn’t get an answer so I assumed that was a ‘No’. A year later, the set of AT3 XLT’s on my pickup had sidewall cracking and I saw it within the 3 year warranty window. My tire dealer tried multiple times to call them by phone. They even emailed them photos of the issues. They got no response. I tried both methods too without any response. I eventually filed a NHTSA complaint and had to pay out of pocket to replace the tires.
If you go to the NHTSA website, there are a lot of recalls on Cooper tires for sidewall cracking. My assumption is they were ignoring my case so they didn’t have to admit another model had the defect.
Hopefully this NHTSA link works to show how many recalls there are for sidewall cracking on popular tire models like the Discoverer AT3 series: https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrcKxBhBMEiwAIVF8rE5N7kx49RbztjCiRroXz35uZAErIk4JL4OBXHA18c3seIbD397NyBoCr5QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
KAO7781@reddit
General Tires, Cooper Tires and Falken I've used them but General is the tires I trust over all 3
Spiritual_Flower7284@reddit
Is Goodyear better than Firestone tires
Kindly-Connection361@reddit
I've never ran a car tire but I have had several sets of cooper cobras on a squarebody I rebuilt and my favorite I've ever ran was there STT mud tire. I could get around 55-60k miles out of those and they were aggressive with very little road noise for a mud tread. Unfortunately they quit making that style.
NCRaineman@reddit
Cooper is a solid brand. I've run their tires on several trucks over the years and they've been great.
Original_Method_9199@reddit (OP)
Appreciate the feedback
Slimy_Shart_Socket@reddit
Cooper is owned by Goodyear now. Pricing wise they are typically within $100-$200 less than a goodyear (per set). I advertise them as a half step down from Goodyear. Kumho I consider to be a midrange tire, great bang for the buck.
Difficult_Plantain89@reddit
They used to be horrible, had one blow out from separation materials in the first week of getting them installed. Another one blew a month later for the same reason. But this was in 2009, 15 years a lot could have changed.
g2gfmx@reddit
Goodyear did have a but of problems with their rubber
John_B_Clarke@reddit
Seems to be an ongoing thing. Back in the '70s my Dad needed new tires. I told him to get Michelins but he wasn't having any of that foreign crap and went with Goodyears, which seemed to throw a tread at the drop of a hat.
insuranceguynyc@reddit
I recall that in terms of their racing tires, but that was decades ago.
Mysterious_Ad7461@reddit
Goodyear RV tires have a solid trail of death they’ve left behind.
Hyposuction@reddit
Cooper CABRES!
ratrodder49@reddit
Have a set of those on my ‘71 C/10. Love the look lol
ratrodder49@reddit
BEST TARS AROUND, GOBBLESS
Talentless_Cooking@reddit
They used to be one of the official tires of Nascar, so they have historically been a brand in heavy development, which is good. I personally have never used them, but they should be fine as long as you go somewhere where they are installed by professionals, not children...
st96badboy@reddit
I got a set from NTB. Granted a lot of this was poor service by NTB. Paid for the Lifetime alignment and the car pulled horribly. I went back. They tried to tweak it and the car still pulled to the right. I told the manager if I let go of the steering wheel the car will change lanes to the right. His response was "you're not supposed to let go of the steering wheel". I struggled with that for I don't know how long and the manager said. Take it back into me on a weekday and I will spend some time on it. He tweaked it and it was better but still pulled a little. When it came time to rotate the tires They put the tires from the back on, redid the alignment and the pull was gone. Turns out I had one bad tire that was making the car pull. NTB WAS TOO STUPID TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I won't go back to NTB and I won't buy Cooper tires. (Even though it was probably just one freak bad tire but it made my life miserable for a long time and wasted a bunch of my time)
Longjumping_Rule1375@reddit
So I haven't seen it no they are not a premium brand not even close. If you want premium all seasons go continental or michelin.
BrainSqueezins@reddit
This would be about 12 years ago, so take it for what it’s worth.
I was on a trip, old tire blew, it was the weekend, and the small-town tire shop only sold Coopers. So I bought a pair. I was actually happy with them, till one blew about 2 years later. Called the shop, they said to call Cooper. Cooper tire said I had to go to an authorized dealer. Authorized dealer said they had to send the tire carcass in for a review. IE buy a new one at full retail and they’d “see what they could do.” So I bought two: I always buy in pairs so they match, even if I only need one, and the good one goes as a spare. But my spare was good at that point so I asked if I could warrant them both. Cooper said no & wouldn't budge so I let it go. One tire blew, one tire warranted.
Ok fair enough, I thought.
A full year later, the shop still “hadn’t heard”about the warranty.
I decided then that I wasn’t buying another Cooper tire if I could help it. I buy new tires so I don’t have problems, or get taken care of if I do. Problems AND not taken care of, AND paying full retail on top of it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I moved to Michelins, haven’t had any tire issues since.
mechanixguy94@reddit
I'm not a particularly big fan of Cooper tires and don't usually sell them where I work unless the customer is requesting them specifically. For a good middle of the road tire I usually recommend General Altimax RT45. For cheaper tires we've had decent luck with Laufenn although they definitely don't last as long.
Suspicious_Step_9018@reddit
I use the Coopers on my suburban with a rear suspension kit and that’s Suburban handled like a dream. I was running 20 inch wheels on a 2003 suburban. I do it again any day no doubt no questions asked.
Glass_Ad1098@reddit
I use exclusively Cooper tires and have for over a decade, they're great tires
jonm61@reddit
Look at General or Goodrich. Much better tires.
dang_dude_dont@reddit
meh. They don't "POP" like other tires.
stomper4x4@reddit
Yes
Evee862@reddit
Ran coopers for a lot of years. Then had a relatively new set on my Grand Prix say 10k miles. Went on a road trip in 800 miles had 3 bulge out to different degrees. As I say for an extra day I. Elko Nevada for them to ship in tires to fit my car I swore those were the last ones.
lpg975@reddit
Never had any issues with their Discoverer AT3s or their evolution touring my buddy lives his Zeons as well.
mrkillfreak999@reddit
I think Cooper is co-owned by Michelin so should be good
Filamcouple@reddit
I was told Uniroyal was owned by Michelin.
bitzzwith2zs@reddit
Cooper is a Goodyear company
mrkillfreak999@reddit
Oh yeah thanks for correcting me. But which tire brand then Michelin owns?
BoondockUSA@reddit
They own BFGoodrich.
bitzzwith2zs@reddit
BFGoodrich, Uniroyal and Rikken
Not-Much_Help@reddit
Yeah I got some all season coopers for my Highlander and they have been great. They had them at Walmart for 200 cheaper than discount tire
lhorwinkle@reddit
I used Coopers for many years because they were inexpensive. Or at least they were years ago.
These days I use the Michelins that come with the car, and replace them with whatever I can find at Costco.
I haven't seen Coopers there. But if they had 'em I'd buy 'em.
sawitwice@reddit
Cooper tire, is a good tire.
KiloWhiskyFoxtrot@reddit
Cooper is a WAY better tire than most. I've run 70k miles on two separate sets of Discoverer tires. I put Cooper on ALL my vehicles, on purpose. Having experience with Goodyear (mostly crap), Michelin (quality, but expensive), BFG (overrated and expensive), Kelly (utter trash) and others, Cooper has always been more reliably good, at a superior price point. Their value is stellar. They perform in the top tier while their cost more closely reflects discount brands.
Many don't know this is the ONLY tire company still domestically owned and entirely produced in the U.S.
💯% recommended. Longer service life, better traction, great durability, quiet, and always at a reasonable price.
Badenguy@reddit
Never had coopers but find a shop that fills with nitrogen, tires won’t dry rot
BoondockUSA@reddit
Filling with nitrogen won’t stop exterior cracking caused by ozone exposure, UV exposure, heat and cold cycles, tire flex, etc.
Liveitup1999@reddit
Nitrogen in car tires is just a money grab. Nitrogen in aircraft tires is to prevent ice inside the tire causing vibration on takeoff and landing. Air is 76% Nitrogen. Do you even know if they are putting Nitrogen in your tires?
Badenguy@reddit
If you go to a reputable shop, yeah. So they also put nitrogen in race car tires because it’s inert whereas atmospheric air is reactive, pressure goes higher as the tire and hence the air gets hotter. Some F1 teams used to cheat and used refrigerants that would give them the desired effects but then return to spec by the time for tech inspection. Also air contains moisture, even more when it’s coming out of a hot compressor. The moisture is what causes the deterioration from the inside, also the oxygen molecule is smaller than the pores of the rubber, so not matter what, air pressure will drop over time. I bought some wheel and tire mail order, mounted balanced and filled with nitrogen, haven’t significantly lost tire pressure in 19 years. Cars been in storage and tires still look new. I also put nitrogen in my work van tires as I have a nitrogen cylinder for AC work, they don’t go flat. Nitrogen works.
crikett23@reddit
If tires lose oxygen, then just wait, and you'll have a nitrogen fill without paying? Selling nitrogen is absolutely a money grab. While F1, Indycar, and NASCAR do use nitrogen for stability, if you are not in a situation where the difference between 30 PSI and 30.04 PSI is going to make a difference, you will be wasting money. And, if the O2 inside the tire creates rot, then you've already gone well past the usable life of the rubber, which is finite.
As someone who does regularly race in a few different (though much lower levels) classes, I would never bother paying for Nitrogen (in cars off the track, with just regular air, I do not see cold pressure changes over 6+ months, or a point where I am generally adjusting them for other factors). But if you feel you are gaining something, then paying for that piece of mind is likely worth it to you.
Badenguy@reddit
It’s normally not a surcharge at shops that use it, they run a nitrogen generator and use it primarily, better for air tools too, shit Costco has nitrogen pumps for free if your a member, yeah the percentage of nitrogen would go up but then you put air in and it goes back to normal. You’re acting like nitrogen costs a fortune or something. I’ve never had to specifically pay for it, you just can’t expect some crummy tire shop to have it, but then crummy shop, crummy off brand tires. If the OP is hoping to get 10 years out of his tires, use nitrogen. Stop drawing a hard line on your opinions and google it.
crikett23@reddit
If the choice is no cost, then great. I have used many tire shops over the years (one aspect of racing is I go through more tires in a year than some people go through in the life of their car). I rarely run across places that use nitrogen, and when they do, it is always an extra charge.
As for getting 10 years out of tires? That is well past what the date codes on ANY tires supports (though I am sure some people do that). Tires do have expiration dates!
TheAutoAlly@reddit
Sumitomo is actually a really good budget brand as well.
_Larry@reddit
I've been through a few sets of Coopers on various cars. They are good budget friendly tires. Definitely not the best but far from the worst.
Flaky_Education_2200@reddit
I used cooper weathermaster st on my wife’s dodge grand caravan. The lasted for 6 seasons. I put some winter evolution on my son’s Honda element this year. No issues with them. I haven’t used their all-season tires.
lakenoonie@reddit
I autocrossed for a season on Cooper RS3's and they were great. Not the best performance tire but I got a good deal on them and had no issues.
ads1031@reddit
I used Cooper tires on a 2006 GMC Envoy once. They served me well. I wouldn't call them a "premium" tire, but I would call them a good tire. They lasted a while after I sold the car to a family member.
1MTBRider@reddit
Had them a number of times on my vehicles, lots of guys in town run them as well. Great tires and I feel like they’re a bit nicer on your wallet.
E90BarberaRed6spdN52@reddit
There are a good solid brand. They are a US brand and have a variety of tire types, that give option for handling, comfort, etc. Are they the best brand, no but there are in the top 3- 5 in my opinion. Lastly there are a good value typically too unless the shop is marking them up.
loki03xlh@reddit
I've been running Coopers for almost 30 years, currently have them on my Silverado and getting ready to put another set on my Tahoe. I can usually get 50k out of a set. The ride is nice. The price is right. I'm a happy customer.
Impressive-Crab2251@reddit
Tirerack website or consumers report have good reviews where you can compare sometimes even reviews with your vehicle.
CamelHairy@reddit
Great tire, have them on my Jeep Cherokee and my wife's Town and Country. Both cars came from the factory with Firestones, totally junk tires. I just replaced my wife's last week with the new Cooper Pro Control. Cooper is offering a $75 rebate.
WearyOfTrying@reddit
I've had a great experience with Coopers in the past, but my last set of ATs only lasted 10K miles before they needed to be replaced. I should have made a warranty claim, but didn't want to the hassle.
AtYiE45MAs78@reddit
Yes
Contentpolicesuck@reddit
Yes, they are a well made US manufactured brand.
ashyjay@reddit
Better known for off-road tyres, but mid to low mid road tyres.
Cigars-Beer@reddit
Good tires at a decent price. I like them
GideonD@reddit
We've run them on work vehicles for many years with mixed results. I had a lot of issues with them in inclement weather in the past. Traction was just not very good. Th last few years they seem to have improved in this regard.
On my personal truck I run Firestone Destination AT/2s and they've been excellent. I had Michelin a few times before, but found them to be expensive junk. Every set I had would dry rot long before they ran out of tread.
Original_Method_9199@reddit (OP)
Yeah I’ve got Toyo open country’s on my truck which are great but there just seems to be a lot less info out there on basic sedan tires than truck tires
milesdriven@reddit
Great tires, made in Ohio.
Npl1jwh@reddit
Ran 3 different sets of Cooper AT3s on my pickups and I like them. Good bang for your buck tire IMO
WideOpenEmpty@reddit
I've had those tires since 2017 no problem.
Zanders2J@reddit
Good overall tire, tad loud for my liking, but decent tire.
SuddenlyFatal@reddit
Love Coopers. I put the Discoverer HTPs on my first truck, lasted over 65k miles including lots of towing; put a second set on that truck years later that was going strong when I sold it recently. Just put a set of Discoverer HTP IIs on my current truck. Won't hesitate to put Coopers on my wife's car when it needs new shoes.
ifukkedurbich@reddit
The budget Coopers on my Corolla are pretty good. The CS5 Ultra's on my Fusion were phenominal.
ThirdSunRising@reddit
I've had absolutely great experiences with Coopers. The name certainly carries weight with me.
AcceptableMinute9999@reddit
I use them on most of my cars.
LeBongJaames@reddit
Great tire for that price point. Definitely one of the brands I’d recommend for every day use
Soft-Philosopher3618@reddit
Cooper safari one of my the best tires I’ve owned.
Soft-Philosopher3618@reddit
Sorry Kelly safari but they are made by cooper
walkawaysux@reddit
Cooper was bought by Goodyear a couple years ago. It’s a good tire and the pricing is usually reasonable.
Klutzy_Masterpiece37@reddit
My customers like them. Some of the AT had bad ware bad poor balancing but thats more on the crappy trucks they are going on.
Teddy2Sweaty@reddit
They're a good, middle of the road tire. We currently have a set of CS5 Ultra Touring on our Pacifica minivan, and I ran ZEON RS3-G1s on a previous Pontiac G8. They were reasonably priced and got the job done.
libra-love-@reddit
Absolutely love my coopers and they are the best selling tires at my shop
Tractorguy69@reddit
I’ve always had good results with Cooper tires, except in extreme cold - the one set became like hockey pucks with little to no traction (-40 though so fair enough). With such limited mileage, based on her actual driving style, do you even need premium tires if they are just going to rot out. If she never pushes towards the limits of traction you could save yourself money by not purchasing something you won’t use anyway. Just my $0.02
Original_Method_9199@reddit (OP)
I completely agree which is why I’m leaning away from a premium brand like a Michelin tire. Trying to decide what exactly she needs but since we have very wet summers Im leaning towards something middle of the road that will offer better wet performance without spending top dollar when she doesn’t drive that much.
Resident-Associate75@reddit
I ran out a set of all terrain tires on my sierra. They were affordable and dependable.
SlipperyTom@reddit
I have Starfires on my civic, which are made by Cooper. They are LOUD. Like, super loud road noise, you have to raise your voice to talk at highway speeds.
Original_Method_9199@reddit (OP)
That’s good to know as that is one of the options I was looking at
SlipperyTom@reddit
Yeah, I only have 15k miles on them, and I am super unhappy with how loud they are. I need to rotate them and see if that helps, but as it is, they are absolutely atrocious.
Good tires. Handle rain well. But loud AF.
bcsublime@reddit
Used to run cooper discoverers religiously, but it has been awhile since I no longer live where a more aggressive tread is necessary.
No-Sale605@reddit
I had several sets in past years. At least one in every set made funny sounds when new but the ride was okay so I couldn't get them comped. These eventually developed into out-of-round tires that hurt the ride & could be felt in the steering wheel. I'll never get Coopers again.
toddinraleighnc@reddit
Mine are noticeably quieter than the Goodyear's I had. So far grip and longevity are better. I'm a new fan.
OrganizationPutrid68@reddit
I commuted to college at Plattsburgh State in the 90's, 25 miles each way to get my Bachelors Degree. This is an area where winter is serious about its job. My truck had Coopers the whole time. Zero mishaps. Both of my current vehicles are wearing Coopers.
dukbutta@reddit
I’ve had good ones and ones that were just plain trash. Just make sure whoever is installing them will stand behind them.
ThAt_WaS_mY_nAmE_tHo@reddit
I have some AT on my e350 - so far they are quiet and seem great.
Overall they have been on the market long term and I feel like are considered a trusted brand. As time goes in and prices rose I find myself moving away from Michelin and BFG - had the same question as you a year ago.
mof1234@reddit
Yes great tires, have had them on my trucks. Work great on and off road.