My Updated Power Out Kit List
Posted by TheSensiblePrepper@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 154 comments
This is my UPDATED "Oh Sh!t the Power is out Starter Kit". Everything I am listing is something I have personally used and tested. It might not be top of the line but it all works very well on a budget. Let me know if you have questions or if I missed an item you personally want.
Golabs R300 Power Station. My Mother has one, at my recommendation, that she took for a two week "camping" event called Pennsic. Google it, it is really awesome. She used this power station to recharge her iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and a few small battery packs during these two weeks. It was at full charge when she started and didn't recharge it once. When she got home it was still at 26%. You can easily go up in size and get "better" solar generators, I personally like EcoFlow and BougeRV products but that is my experience and opinion.
These Camping Lanterns are great for emergency light. They can be recharged via USB or the Solar Panels on them. Cheap and safer than candles.
I have a thing for Flashlights, so sue me. I have some very high-end/expensive flashlights but I also recognize that having access to a cheap and reliable flashlight is important. Even though the GearLight S1050 is almost always under $17 for TWO of them....you cannot get better until you hit the $35-$40 range, in my opinion. I personally have around 10 of these just to be able to give away or barter for. Whenever someone tells me they don't have a flashlight, I just give them one of these and tell them to never be without a flashlight again. GearLight also makes some really nice Headlamps that make it handsfree.
KITWLEMEN Camping Fan/Light is a combination fan and light. Everyone needs a fan during the Summer but this can also be used in the tent setup I suggest below to help circulate hot air from a heater. Battery powered and will last awhile. They have a newer bigger one but I haven't personally tested it. I assume it's great but that's your choice.
Midland ER310 Emergency Radio should be in every home as far as I'm concerned. I literally give them as House Warming Gifts. It can be powered by several different ways and does AM/FM/NOAA. If an Emergency alert is going out NOAA is the best way for them to push it to the masses.
If the power goes out and you think it will be out for longer than 12 hours, I would set up and fill a bathtub with a WaterBob. The only downside to these is that they are supposed to be a "one and done" and not stored and reused since they can easily grow mold if you do. It is your call on when and what you do with them but having 100 gallons of potable water in an emergency is a big deal. If you have the space in the basement, I use these WaterPrepared 55 Gallon Tanks. They are expensive, but will outlast you. A middle man between the WaterBob and 55 Gallon Tank are Water Bricks.
Speaking of water, if you want a purifier then I highly recommend the Survivor Filter Pro X Series. It can run off of USB or AA batteries. It is one of the only filters of its kind that filter down to 0.01 microns, so it will even remove viruses. Most people will mention filters like the Sawyer but that only gets down to 0.10 microns. So the Survivor Filter Pro is literally 10 times better.
Campy Gear Propane Heater/Stove or Mr. Heater Big Buddy is perfect for emergency heat. For some reason the largest Campy Gear Heater is not available and my link defaults to the next size down. Keep that in mind. If you get a Mr. Heater Big Buddy then do yourself a favor and get the Adaptor hose with regulator and quick disconnect. Do yourself a favor and get a Propane Tank Gauge so you know how much fuel you have left.
Recently I have tested out the new kid on the block, the Heat Hog. The only major difference between it and the Big Buddy is really the fact that it can tilt upwards. This is actually a big deal and makes it easier for the heat to hit you directly. The other difference is that you can purchase spare parts for it. The Prepper in me actually loves this. Things break with use, that is just how it goes. I would rather be able to fix it instead of buying a new unit and especially being able to fix it if getting a new one isn't an option.
Even though all of these Propane Heaters are Indoor Safe, it never hurts to be extra safe and use a Carbon Monoxide Detector with it. I highly recommend using Lithium AA Batteries with it so you can use it and remove the batteries when in storage without worry about battery drain. If you want rechargeable Lithium Battery, my personal favorite are the Kratax Brand.
If you're in a situation where you need to use the propane heater but need it to last as long as possible, not wasting the heat on the whole Apartment/House, then setting up a Basic Tent will create a microclimate. This will help conserve heat. For sleeping bags, I have tried a ton. I highly recommend the Kodiak Canvas Brand. Yes, these are $200+ sleeping bags but they WILL keep you warm and comfortable. Buy once, cry once.
For cooking, you have a couple of options. First, I really like the GS-3400P Dual Fuel Stove. It's ability to use both Butane and Propane make it adaptable to your needs. It even uses the same 1lb Green Propane Cans as the heaters mentioned. Second, is the VESTA Heater & Stove that uses chaffing fuel to run. Yes, it will boil water EVENTUALLY and it will heat up a small space a bit. I wouldn't personally rely on it as a main heat source but it is a good backup for a backup. It does a better job at cooking in my opinion. If even a small propane heater or cook top isn't an option, this is the way to go.
To store everything you could simply use any Rubbermaid style tote. I personally like these MTM Ammo Crates. They are solid, able to take a hit without caring and I have them stacked up four high in my basement.
Let's talk about Number 1 and Number 2. If the power goes out, the average water treatment facility has 72 hours of fuel to keep everything moving. Yes they are priority for fuel but if they stop getting it, things get nasty very quickly. If you can no longer use the toilet in your home, you will want a backup. I personally have a Luggable Loo, Compostable Toilet Bags, [Wipe Tabs](https://www.amazon.com/WYSI-WW500-500-Expandable-Wipe/dp/B00636P7MQ/ and Eco Gel. I am sure any version of these products will work just fine, but trust me when I say that you want them on hand.
Speaking of keeping "clean", taking a regular shower is important but not everyone will have that option. Keeping clean is the number one way to prevent diseases. So I highly recommend having at least a few packs of Biodegradable Wet Wipes. Make sure they are biodegradable so you can literally put them in a hole in the ground and walk away from it.
Again, I have personally tested each item on my list and picked it for a reason. This list is always growing and eventually new things will be added. If I missed a specific item you really want, feel free to ask.
BigJSunshine@reddit
I feel pretty good after checking your list! Aside from a solar generator we are doing great.
I would add that people need to always keep an extra month of medication on hand- human and pet, and we keep 3 months of pet food stores on hand too.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I have made separate posts/comments about both subjects and I would agree with you.
I personally have a year supply of medication for all of my family members on hand and 6 months of stored food for my pets.
LonelyAcres@reddit
How are you getting extra months of medicine?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Jase Daily by Jase Medical.
terrierhead@reddit
I’m late to the thread and want to get a year’s meds from Jase. The $600 price is stopping me. That’s not even for all my meds. My heart med is more than $15K, so it’s out of reach.
shesaysImdone@reddit
AllDayChemist if tariffs have not impacted them.
terrierhead@reddit
Thanks! I’ll take a look.
My heart medicine is a new drug, so new that it’s in a different branch of the clinical study that I’m in. It’s going to be expensive no matter what.
One idea is to ask my doctor for a prescription for a beta blocker I tried that worked a bit. I could buy it with GoodRx instead of my insurance.
kakuzu14@reddit
Visit https://smartrxcompare.com —they’re a prescription-savings card aggregator that compares prices from multiple sources, including SingleCare, and Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drugs, all in one place.
Ratemyskills@reddit
You can’t get most controlled substances I’ve found out. My insurance offers a similar plan, when there were shortages of pain medicine in my area (for months) my insurance told me “hey we offer a mail in RX or could get you a 3 month supply”. But no doctor would sign off on that.. it’s a battle. My GP would sign off on say my SO anxiety meds and insomnia meds but then the insurance didn’t cover it. These may seem off topic from prepping, but as a chronic pain patient.. having to go to pharmacy to pharmacy every month with the printed out hardcopy bc so many pharmacies won’t hold your RX, don’t have it in stock and can’t order it for you due to either internal or external regulations.. when you need medication it really sucks every single month having to spend hours hoping I can find it. If not, usually takes a coming back when the stores get refilled but since 99% won’t hold them for you, you just have to check in constantly and hope your dropping off while they have enough left in stock. It’s a real pain in the ass for those of us that can’t function without it.
LonelyAcres@reddit
I completely understand how you feel. The whole time I lived in Mississippi I struggled with pharmacies. Most small pharmacies where you get to know the staff and they would understood why certain medications are getting things filled have been absorbed by a larger companies or had to go out of business because they couldn't compete. I even had my pharmacist at Walgreens refused to fill my pain medication because he didn't believe that I needed the pain medication. I even asked him "do you think you know my body better than my doctor who sees me at least once a month?" He also said he didn't believe in prescribing oral contraceptives and that Walgreens would back him on his decision whether or not to fill certain prescriptions. He made me feel like I was a back alley crack whore. I was completely humiliated!! I'm the kind of person that can't stand up for myself (but I can stand up for other people that I care about which is kind of messed up I know). However my husband went in and had a conversation with that pharmacist later that day. QUITE the conversation.
Interestingly enough I was going to a pain clinic for several years while I was in Mississippi and they once accused me of having a substance in my urine. I can't remember if it was morphine or what it was but it was some kind of really strong pain medication that I had never even had in my life. They threatened to discharge me as a patient LOL. They called me just a couple days after my urine screen and I told him I would come right back in that day and they could retest me but they were absolutely convinced that I was lying to them because they have so many people that do lie to them. I've heard of 'false positives' happening at other facilities too so I don't know what the issue is. But in my case I can say I definitely was not taking the medicine that I was accused of having in my urine.
As far as pain medication in a SHTF situation, I think that about a month after SHTF there would be a huge volume of people that no longer have access to pain medications, psychotropic medications or street drugs who will be literally losing their minds and that's a huge danger. Other than trying herbal remedies now to see if they help relieve your pain I really don't have any suggestions. My best friend is learning how to do tinctures and things like that rather than taking regular medications. It's mostly because she doesn't trust doctors but also to be prepared for SHTF.
Ratemyskills@reddit
Sorry to hear about the bullshit you’ve dealt with testing at pain clinics. I’ve had the exact situation but with accusing me of not having anything in my system (thought I was selling my meds).. which I was so confused as I had taken the medicine literally that day. I ended up being put on a list where instead of every 3rd month to testing, I would be tested monthly and they required me to bring in medicine bottles to count the exact number of pills (since they were so sure I was selling them). It ended up getting me suspended for 6 months and I had a major operation during that time in which the surgeon was like “I see your in a pain contract so I can’t give you these prescriptions.. “ I told him no I’m not current in one but he didn’t believe me and I was like dude look at the pharmacy history, but he didn’t and I ended up having no choice but to spend an insane amount of money buying real pills from the street. Was paying like $20 for a 10mg pill bc I was so afraid to get a laced pill and this guy would let me walk into the pharmacy with him.. so I paid the premium out of fear of safety. Cost me in the 10s of thousands .
I would say the best alternative would be to grow your own weed (that helps for pain), I don’t smoke it as in my pain clinic you can’t have THC in system either, but would if I needed something and maybe Kratom. I’m a big fan of quality Kratom, not gas stations shit, and supposedly you can burry it and it stores for multiple years. Also helps you can buy a Kilo of it for $30-60 bucks so it’s not that expensive.
You are right though, the other drugs we would be very fucked on. I try to only take the medications I absolutely need as I worry about long term organ health and it’s just cheaper to buy less at the pharmacy. My plan is I know how to grow bud, got plenty of seeds.. would grow that. And keep multiple Kilos of Kratom around (1 kilo with my pain last about 2-3 months). It’s not nearly as effective but have had to use it many times before when couldn’t find medication or was cut off and needed something for an operation.
PresentationCool1657@reddit
I’d love that housewarming gift 🥲
Aggressive-War-4567@reddit
Thank you for this great information! I live in central FL, and need to prepare for the next hurricane season :(
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
ferociious@reddit
This is good
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I do what I can.
Impressive_Seat5182@reddit
Thanks for this great list! Appreciate you sharing your expertise!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to Help.
coldhandses@reddit
Fairly new to the game and just wanted to say thanks and that you've given me a lot to think about.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Writingmama2021@reddit
This is absolutely amazing. Thank you for this information!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Writingmama2021@reddit
Do you have any recommendations for washing laundry by hand/ without electricity by any chance?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I would highly recommend you watch this video by City Prepping.
I have, and highly recommend a Lavario but I don't mention them anymore. Reason being they have been completely off the market for about two years now and we don't know if they will be back or not.
Writingmama2021@reddit
Thank you! I really appreciate your time and knowledge!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Writingmama2021@reddit
Currently without a washer, so I’ve been hand-washing everything. Definitely going to try a couple of these methods. I told my teen that the silver lining is that it’s helping us gain more knowledge to be self-sufficient!
Mavis8220@reddit
I have a centrifugal spin dryer (it extracts the rinse water. The items are damp-dry) that makes hand washing really easy. I even use it to extract the wash water before rinsing the items. No wringing, and drying finishes in no time. My unit is a Nina Soft but there is a similar one called Panda
Writingmama2021@reddit
I wish I could afford one!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I have been there and done that. I get it.
I love my machines and hope I never have to live life without them....BUT....I know how to if it comes to that. A lot of people in the "Western World" do not know how.
Writingmama2021@reddit
Exactly that!!! As much as I wish I had a better living situation for us at the moment (which I’m trying to work towards), it feels good to know I’m prepared and able to have clean clothes without electricity. And it really feels good that my kid is learning, too. Rough times in life can teach you a lot.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Hard times build strong people.
Writingmama2021@reddit
Amen to that!
Comfortable_Soup6427@reddit
For power sources: Do you use any of those little USB power gadgets? Phone case with a solar panel, thermoelectric camp stove, hand crank, etc... I'm trying to figure out which ones are useful and which ones are gimmicky.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
It really depends on the individual device. If you share links to items you're curious about, I can give you some suggestions.
Comfortable_Soup6427@reddit
I like the idea of thermoelectric generators, like this thing: https://www.amazon.com/BioLite-Campstove-Electricity-Generating-Charging/dp/B00FU8RBPE/
I had one of these little guys, which I liked for the multiple panels, except it required the battery to be baking in the sun. https://www.amazon.com/25000mAh-Hiluckey-Compatible-Smartphones-Waterproof/dp/B07FMFGGNR/
Leopold_Porkstacker@reddit
Commenting to save
Life-Celebration-747@reddit
Did I make a good choice on the EcoFlow DELTA 2 Max Solar Generator (PV220W)
1*220W + DELTA 2 Max?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
That completely depends on what you're using it for.
Life-Celebration-747@reddit
My main concern is to keep freezers/frig. operating in the event the power grid goes down.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
That will work just fine then.
Life-Celebration-747@reddit
Thank you. Great post BTW, I've book marked it.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Effective-Large@reddit
Gg. G NV
Longjumping_Eye8138@reddit
Thank you for sharing this.
We have a jackery 160 for little stuff and a 1000 for larger items like a fridge if needed. 2 sets of solar panels to go with. We have the survivor water filter you mentioned. Power and manual options. Several knivesnfor different uses. Some first aid, but putting a larger kit together as we speak. A byrna for defense. Until i can purchase a solid fire arm and do some research find a reliable bow/bowgun/or crossbow, thatllnhave to do. I have a few headlamps/flashlights and lanterns (powered and fueled type) but feel im lacking when it comes to a larger spotlight or something comparable. I like Wuben but theyre pricey. Water bricks, filtered and filled, but didnt add anything to them to keep it clean, so not sure if ill have to do that when we use them or not. Not certain if theres an expiration date on stored water or not. Preparing to purchase a decent radio, like the Midland you mentioned, as well as some hand helds for communicating and possibly a cb or something like that, but not very educated on that whole area, so... not sure what makes/models or types yet. Theres quite a bit more basics of fire, power, water that are kept in a bag for any kind of emergency. Lifestraws, hammock, emergence tent, blankets/ponchos, etc. Have to take inventory soon and appease the ocd and organize... again.... but for now, thats better than nothing. Just gotta figure out the lights, radios, and likely some dry bags to put sets of clothes in for each of us in said emergency. Any further insight is appreciated, but again, this is a great read. Thank you.
EnergyLantern@reddit
I appreciate your list but it is not for everyone.
The power station is currently unavailable.
I use flashlights that are usb c rechargeable. I believe in buying lanterns with replaceable and rechargeable batteries so I can reuse components if one component breaks.
I have a lot of cheap metal flashlights I bought for a dollar or two and they take a minimum of two AAA batteries. I just bought a dollar store headlamp that lights up a whole room in the dark. I have 9 volt flashlights that are basically battery toppers and everyone has remotes and smoke alarms with batteries. The point is you have to plan for emergencies around the types of batteries you have and I save used 9 volt batteries in a box from the smoke alarms.
I have solar lights in the yard and some vendors sell replaceable batteries. Those lights can come in during a power outage.
I don’t want a kerosene heater because I don’t like the smell and I don’t want to store flammable liquids. I heard stories of fires and you have to trim the wick. Owning and using one would be for extreme emergencies for me.
I have two battery daddy's but there are better storage options. I started buying rechargeable AA and AAA batteries and chargers that can run off of USB and 110 voltage. In an extreme emergency, your consumables would run out.
I do have tea lights and I bought two USB rechargeable lighters because its always there and I don’t have to buy another box of matches and matches dry out after a couple of years if that.
I appreciate your feedback.
squeakyglider44@reddit
Very helpful. Any other precautions to take with the buddy heater besides the carbonmonoxide detector? Any need to crack a window?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
The crack the window would be to vent CO but your really fine. The sensors are very sensitive.
Cmosby-533@reddit
👌
Asleep_Phase@reddit
What are your thoughts on diy-ing medium power stations 1000 to 2000w?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
It is certainly doable, it just depends on your abilities to work with such things and what you're trying to achieve. What are you wanting to power exactly?
Asleep_Phase@reddit
I'm a full-time RV-er and the power does go out a lot at my park. For now, mostly just looking to keep my devices going, run a fan or electric blanket. But eventually, I'm hoping to gain enough knowledge and skills that I can add solar to my whole RV (And know how to repair it myself something goes wrong and I can't get help)
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
What sort of battery setup does your RV currently have? Usually they have some form of 12v/24v setup for when you can't connect to 30A/50A service.
Asleep_Phase@reddit
I have a 12 volt. But it only powers the lights, radio, pullout, water pump and furnace.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I recommend you check out the offerings from BougeRV. They offer everything you would need to do a full setup.
With that said, for your basic needs right now you might be better off just getting a Solar Generator and maybe a panel or two to charge it.
Asleep_Phase@reddit
Thanks!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
fauxrain@reddit
Instead of the water Bob, which is not reusable, consider a drain cover. The “tub shroom” brand available on Amazon sells a drain cover meant to keep the water in the tub until you decide to drain it. It works great.
DisastrousHyena3534@reddit
That’s a great option if you have the right household for it. We have small children so we’d still need a water bob or other enclosed containers.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
You have a link so I get the right item? I am happy to test it out.
fauxrain@reddit
It deleted my comment. I don’t know how to post the shorter link to products, but it’s the one called Stop Shroom. Currently $9
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
You need to remove every part of the referral link. Everything from /ref and forward. It's a bit of work with a lot of links.
I found it, I have the "Sink Shroom" and it works great. The reason I don't recommend that is because the water is just sitting in the tub exposed to the air. With WaterBob, the water is sealed in a "bag". For longer than an hour, that's important.
fauxrain@reddit
I add a little bleach if it’s going to be sitting. I’m in an area with a lot of power outages and service interruptions, so for me the cost benefit for the water Bob didn’t make a lot of sense. I’d be filling it up multiple times per year.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Then you need to consider the other water storage options I suggested.
fauxrain@reddit
Yes, I have multiple long term water storage options for drinking water. I use the bathtubs for toilet flushing water, etc.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Great
slightlymish@reddit
Commenting to save for later. Thanks for the list!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Traditional-Tap-496@reddit
I am always suspect of these posts when you have an amazon affiliate link.
late2it@reddit
In OP's defense, some of these products can probably be found elsewhere but are linked to Amazon because that's where people can easily view/find/read reviews on them. In fact, there are a few products that aren't directly linked to Amazon, that I did find on Amazon. Whenever I want to show someone a product, I always use Amazon as my source, only because it's so widely known.
CrazyQuiltCat@reddit
I have to admit I like that
WhenDoesDaRideEnd@reddit
Any recommendations for moderate and high end flashlights? Happy to spend some money if I can get a couple well made flashlights that will last me 10+ years.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Give me a price max per flashlight.
WhenDoesDaRideEnd@reddit
Would love to get 2-3 between $50-200. Would also be willing to look at anything over 200 but would probably only buy one if I really liked it and/or it was super cool.
Amfoxxy@reddit
Check out Armytek wizard headlamps, battery last forever on low, magnetic to hang off work spaces all in all great light
pgmopar@reddit
Great list. And the comment about your mom "camping" at Pennsic made my wife and I laugh. We are both "campers" for over 29 years. I have found that a lot of us are pretty prepared just from our years of "camping".....lol and again good list.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
If you need to survive a World without electricity from the grid, members of the SCA are going to do just fine.
freedomsheepdog1776@reddit
Why stay away from Ready Hour and 4Patriots? Bad value? Bad quality? I'd like to prepare for at least 6 months, but Mountain House gets expensive really quick. I'm not opposed to doing it over time, but trying to balance quality and value
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Let me explain that statement a bit better.
The stuff that is just straight veggies and proteins are fine. Not the best quality but it is a freeze-dried product and that's it.
The meals taste terrible. Nothing but empty calories that will make you feel terrible after a day of eating just that.
freedomsheepdog1776@reddit
What emergency/survival food brands do you recommend?
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Stay away from Ready Hour and 4Patriots.
I generally recommend you get the stuff meant for Backpackers and not Preppers. They are planning for people to actually use it and want repeat business. The easiest way I have come up with a list of brands is by making a list of stuff from REI, you can find that list here. I am not saying you have to buy it from REI, it was just easier to make the list of different brands this way. Another good option is Nutrient Survival.
With that said, unless your planning on putting these in a Bug Out Bag, your better off with canned foods you already eat.
ExcitedAlpaca@reddit
Amazing resource, thanks!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
ImageMirage@reddit
Nothing to add except my thanks and an upvote
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
If I missed something you're interested in, please let me know.
Delicious-News-2976@reddit
This is really great to know, thank you!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help
finished_lurking@reddit
Ecoflow River 2 Max is $270 at Sam’s club. Good deal on something that’s “good enough” or should I hold out for a “higher end” unit even though I have no storage capacity yet.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
That completely depends on what you're trying to power.
finished_lurking@reddit
Cell phones. Sump. Rechargable batteries for flashlights. Maybe a box fan in summer or electric blanket in winter.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
That unit will be fine for everything but the Sump and Electric Blanket. You would want something bigger for those. Something dedicated to the Sump would be best but I don't know your situation with that.
finished_lurking@reddit
I have a generator. So in the event of no grid power I would use the generator. I would use a power station in case of generator failure or for when the generator is off (save fuel, convenience of not wanting cords around my house, noise, can secure generator in garage and not leave outside and have to worry about theft.)
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Again, great for all you listed but those two. Especially the electric blanket. They can pull a lot of watts.
franky290@reddit
I wondering if I should store the propane in the ammo crate?....
HOA restriction on propane grill on patio.
I don't think I get much sunlight on patio. My patio is facing north. Should I consider another type of generator?
kmeem5@reddit
Why would you want to fill the WaterBob if electricity is out for more than 12 hours?
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
Water will stop pumping without electricity.
roundblackjoob@reddit
Great, just what we'll all need when TSHTF, fully charged 'I'diot devices. And you call yourself TheSensiblePrepper? Honestly, this post reads like a catalogue for overpriced band name Glamping gear.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
This post is about getting people started in the World of Prepping for something basic like a Power Outage from a severe storm. It's a stepping stone for all the new people flooding our Sub. You want info about setting up your own Whole House solar and battery bank? I can help with that because I have it but that isn't for this post.
roundblackjoob@reddit
Actually the post is about introducing people to the world of prepper marketing, all the expensive things they really don't need but that will deplete their bank accounts. If someone is concerned about blackouts they should buy a gasoline generator, you don't have to be a prepper to know that is vastly superior to a $1000 lipo battery pack.
Forkboy2@reddit
Gasoline generators have many issues compared to solar. Gasoline is difficult to store, requires maintenance, noisy, poisonous fumes, worthless when it runs out of gas, moving parts prone to failure, etc.
mellodolfox@reddit
Agree that solar is superior because it's renewable, unlike gasoline. When the gas runs out, your generator is a very large paper weight. Solar generators can be charged any time the sun is out, over and over again.
multiarmform@reddit
what do you do when theres and outage during a storm though? that could be days of rain/snow and no sun
mellodolfox@reddit
Have more than one and keep them charged. Put them out when there is some sunlight to top up and switch them out as needed. Multiple days with no sun at all is fairly unlikely where I live, but yes, for people in some places (Alaska in winter for instance), it could definitely be an issue. In that case, I'd have both gas and solar available.
freddit_foobar@reddit
Not everyone in this sub is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist praying for their wet dream of TSHTF to happen.
This post had a clearly stated intent covering the aspect of preparing for a power outage, not the end of the world.
Recent events in the US such as prolonged heat waves, hurricanes, as well as abnormally strong winter storms all had an impact on localized areas of 'The Grid' resulting temporary power outages from a few days to a few weeks. The OP's post is on topic and addresses that.
Sure, there's a possibility of SHTF. However, its more likely that folks would be dealing with another weather related power outage rather than rampant mutant zombie bikers.
Probabilities, not possibilities. Prep for next Tuesday, not a nuclear Armageddon.
dachjaw@reddit
Hear, hear. OP specifically said his post was a Power Out Starter Kit.
Country_Gardener@reddit
Thanks for this list. My elderly neighbors have taken an interest in being more prepared (they eat out 6 nights a week, don't have any backup power source, no water [and no power means no water here as it's private well]).
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Guy-with-garden@reddit
I see noting about having DC fans directly connected to solar panels here.
DC motors can run directly off solar panels without batteries or inverters, so if you connect some standard larger fans with DC electrical engine, you can when the sun are up run the fans directly off the sun while it is up…
Far from perfect, but a cheap and easy way to get some release on the hottest times of the day.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
That's because most Fans sold in the US are AC and not DC. The ones that are AC to DC are expensive and most people don't want to deal with pulling it apart. The Fan I do mention in the post is DC because it runs/charges off of USB-C, which could be direct from a small panel if you wanted.
If you are interested in running things, including fans, directly off of DC power from solar panels, I highly recommend you check out the Solar Power Edge YouTube Channel.
Guy-with-garden@reddit
Unaware of that obviously, as I am not in US so yeah, still apply for those non US guys here tho :)
WholeOverallUsuly@reddit
This is great information thanks
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help. If I am missing something you want, let me know.
OpheliaLives7@reddit
Lots of information to go through here! I appreciate you putting this together to share. It’s a bit overwhelming how much there is to learn to be prepared!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
This is the tip of the iceberg but I wrote this as a quick list of things everyone can do to get started. Do this and you take a lot of things into consideration.
Chemical_Mastiff@reddit
Thank you for your posting. 🙂
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
Chemical_Mastiff@reddit
I am 75. In Life, it is ALWAYS encouraging to meet the RELATIVELY rare person who IS actually happy to help. Thank you for your attitude. 🙂
Big-Preference-2331@reddit
I live in a hot area. Usually our power gets knocked out in the summer. I keep battery powered misting fans to deal with the heat in short term black outs. I have a UPS set up on my Verizon home internet and a UPS on my main tv. I have hurricane lights in my lamps. I also have misters in my backyard. I have a back up power source but I also have a few scooter batteries that I use with an inverter. I’ve never had a problem with the water going out now that I am on city water but before that I was on a well that would go out during power outages. I kept a 5 gallon bucket I would use to fill up with pool water to fill up the top of the toilet so we could still use it.
FortunateHominid@reddit
Hot climate here as well. Eventually moved to a portable generator and interlock. Can have power to the house in less than 10 minutes. It was a game changer.
Only thing I can't currently run is the ac. For now we have a portable unit. In the event powers out for several days we have at least one room kept cool to hang out/sleep in. Fans run in the rest of the house.
No gas so a generac is out of the question. Next step is a soft start on the ac unit and a second (cheaper) generator dedicated to ac if needed.
Aggravating_Refuse89@reddit
This is powerful enough to run a portable ac?
FortunateHominid@reddit
Yes. A portable AC or window unit.
Big-Preference-2331@reddit
I’m in the middle of deciding if I should get a whole house generator(24k), solar system with power wall(27k) or a generator interlock system with a powerful dual fuel generator(1,500). I currently have a champion generator(4500w) that I never use because it doesn’t have wheels and is pain to start.
FortunateHominid@reddit
I'd definitely go with a whole house system. Flips over seamlessly and can really run the entire house. Solar has a lot of limitations as well as drawbacks from what I've seen.
I have a Honda EU3000is with a wheel kit and works very well. Anything less wouldn't be ideal, power wise. Yet you can always upgrade the plug later along with a new generator (30-50).
Big-Preference-2331@reddit
Ya I’m kind of leaning that way. I looked at earlier threads on whole home generac generators from 2019 and they were only 10k back then, I guess the price skyrocketed since then.
FortunateHominid@reddit
Price has definitely gone up, yet a lot is dependent on location and size of unit needed.
A family member got a quote recently for around $17k. Another $15k in the same area. South Texas for what it's worth. It was running around $12k here in 2019.
Cousin in Georgia was priced $23k for the same size unit a few weeks ago. Prices also tend to increase during the summer months.
LonelyAcres@reddit
Thank you SO much for taking the time to give us this fantastic post!! I saved it so I can read and research all your links :)
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
If you want an item I haven't provided, let me know.
ShrimpSherbet@reddit
This whole post is great, thank you!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help. If you have an item you want a recommendation on, please let me know.
stonerbbyyyy@reddit
i saw your comment on someone else’s post so i came to check out your post, i have nothing to say other than flashlights and batteries will be one of the hottest commodities other than fking twinkies in the event of a apocalypse. those things will literally rule the world together. my grandparents had a WHOLE FRIDGE dedicated to batteries. and guess what? we never ran out. nothing ever needed batteries, something didn’t work right? change the battery. even if it worked decent. all the adults in my family got BATTERIES for Christmas. no one complained.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I am sure I can't compete with your Grandparents but I have a nice stash of batteries myself. You're not wrong about storing lots of batteries. I will say that the advancements in just the last 10 years have been huge and storage life has increased significantly.
stonerbbyyyy@reddit
yeah they always kept them in the fridge, but i kinda always wondered how they would’ve kept the fridge going without power. they had a generator but i don’t believe that it was capable of powering the house. they’re the type to store freeze dried totes that are like premade and i would’ve rather just starve than eat that but whatever. i love having chickens, they were so against it but would eat mystery meat out of those packages WILLINGLY. you can always have fresh meat at your house. you can literally raise it yourself too. couldn’t imagine choosing a different option.. they had a little under an acre and were worried about a pool that never got used when they could’ve had a garden.. but idk everyone makes different decisions i guess.
they also had a boat so they could go fishing. and extra gas on hand at all times. they were insane. gotta give it to them tho “they would be where i’m going during the apocalypse”
but seriously they instilled into me that i needed to prep. and gave silver and gold gifts for birthdays and christmas. crazy. but maybe they were onto something 😂🤷🏻♀️
roundblackjoob@reddit
They were smart, a hell of a lot smarter than the collective prepper brains of today. Gold and silver, "you can't eat it" was the modern prepper mantra, and all the while it went up and up with inflation protecting the retirement savings of those you chose to buy it.
stonerbbyyyy@reddit
you can melt them down and make stuff with them too. it’s not even just like “oh silver/gold $$” we use silver in so much stuff that you don’t really think about unless you deal with it on a daily basis.
same with copper. 😂 we go to the scrap yard a lot so we deal with lots of metals 😂
silver is also used in solar technology, for making stuff like solar panels 😉
roundblackjoob@reddit
Silver, when you look into it, is a terrific anti-bacterial. They put it in sox now, to prevent stink. bandages, pool filters, it seems to kill all the bacteria. The "blue bloods" as they were called had very good health, probably due to better diet but also because they ate off silver plates. I have a water barrel upstairs and in the bottom are dozens and dozens of old silver coins, Sterling, 92% pure silver. They rumble around from time to time and silver ions and metallic silver comes out into the water I drink.
The other silver is for the future, to pay rates, buy food, whatever.
late2it@reddit
I've just started to prep, and am making my seemingly never-ending to-get list haha! Thankfully I already have some of these items (different brands though). But I wanted to say thank you very much for your insight and time. I have already started following you, based on comments from another post, as you seem very knowledgeable.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Happy to help.
XuixienSpaceCat@reddit
Saving for later
TheImpermanentTao@reddit
For AC and heating, In terms of bougerv at the same price point you can get ecoflow wave 2 with more btu’s for very similar wattage + it’s a heater until about 40 F. 200w on low maintaining temp general rule of thumb and 400w if trying to move 20 degrees lower on AC and like 450w if trying make 20 degrees higher.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I actually have a Wave 2 I am going to test out soon. So we will see how it goes.
06210311200805012006@reddit
This is a good list and I'm satisfied to see that I have 75% of identical gear (maybe different brands but w/e). A few comments and questions!
Ppl, don't ignore this. TLDR plastic is porous and it's unlikely you used bleach to clean the bag and dry it properly. One and done. Just buy two. Or three.
Have you tried using your solar backup gen? I have a much larger one of a different brand (1500w) and it does OK when I have tested electric appliances on it; electric skillet, crock pot, that kind of thing. But it does drain the battery quickly; such is the nature of creating heat through resistance. I don't think there's a way around that.
I'm asking because ...
I'm still looking for good backup heating (wintery state) but to be honest it's pretty challenging. I could plug any one of my backup space heaters into the solar gen but again, that's not going to last very long. I'm super sketch about burning stuff indoors, especially at length. Have you tested your Vesta heater much? You indicated it boils water slowly, so I'm having a hard time imagining it doing any good. Maybe it could be useful to put in my basement during a winter power outage, to simply keep the pipes above freezing.
...
Cool list and write up, thanks for taking the time.
sawyerdk9@reddit
I'm not really educated on this topic, but have you done any research into diesel heaters? They seem to be pretty popular with people that car camp/overland.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Diesel has a shelf life of about a year or so and storing it in large quantities isn't practical for most consumers. When SHTF, it is the first to be in short supply because every large transport vehicle and generator is using it. Those heaters you're talking about are for people in vehicles that can always fill up on fuel. Not the case during SHTF.
Mala_Suerte1@reddit
Treated diesel last much much longer than a year. You can also run kerosene and other fuels in the diesel heaters. Not an issue to store. The ability to run multiple fuels is critical during SHTF. Diesels are the perfect SHTF engine whether large or small. Many people on YT have run used and filtered motor oil through their diesel heater as well as other fuels. After a while you have to do some maintenance - cleaning, but it's not hard. I've had friends run their diesel trucks off of used vegetable oil, peanut oil, used oil and transmission fluid.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I am not saying you can't. I am saying I would use it for much more important things than burning it for heat if I had other options.
Mala_Suerte1@reddit
Hmmm.
storing it in large quantities isn't practical for most consumers
Seems to me like you were poo-pooing the idea of a diesel heater for the reasons I quoted.
Your statement supports my point that a diesel heater burning one of the many fuels available are a great idea.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Go try it and get back to me then.
Mala_Suerte1@reddit
It's been done. Go look on YT.
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
I am telling people MY experience. Not some guy in YouTube. You want to talk, get the experience and show me.
sawyerdk9@reddit
Yep good point!
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
You answered your own question. :-) I don't recommend it because it will drain your battery very quickly. Propane/Butane is much better for generating heat.
I live in the Upper-Midwest/Great Lakes area and do get cold winters. Last winter wasn't bad though. It will raise the ambient temperature by about 15°F for a while but it isn't the best option for heating anything more than a tent. It is completely safe to burn inside but like everything listed that generates heat, you want ventilation.
06210311200805012006@reddit
Ya that's there I am too. Thanks for the followup!
wondering2019@reddit
Great list, thank you
TheSensiblePrepper@reddit (OP)
Glad you like it and happy to help.