I feel like a lot of criticism gets thrown out the window when it's anime. Most anime sucks ass, that's why only a few series are actually remembered fondly.
>Spouts a dogshit take
>People disagree and therefore downvote
"See?? People are downvoting me which MUST mean I'm right because uh... uh..."
Not the first time I've seen it in this dogshit app but it never fails to amaze me.
There's isn't one good thing about the show, the only inoffensive thing I can think of is the soundtrack, which is mid at best
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You're brainlet ass can't even read no wonder you like the show, I just said everything except the mid soundtrack is shit or can you not comprehend words longer than five letters
Your mental regardation prevent you from understanding saying "evewything vewy bad except music" isn't laying out your reasons. Nor finding them visibly.
What point? That you don't like it for reasons you can't articulate, and thus anyone who does is simply uncultured?
Maybe if you used your words more, you wouldn't be seen as such a regard.
csm's anime was slop. Fujimoto's artstyle was just straight up completely ignored. Mappa just used the same Mappa Crappa artstyle they slap on all their series.
They don’t follow his line work because it wouldn’t look very good animated but the character designs jawlines eyes nose and mouths look almost exactly like the manga it’s just clear line work
bro looks like he speed draws every chapter
didn't follow the style because it looks cheap af and would look terrible animated
I love CSM's art style btw
The dynamic between Denji and Makima is pretty solid all things considered, it's just that everything else makes it really clear that it's aimed at braindead teens with the constant "lol so random!" attempts at comedy
I think I quit after #6, most of the interesting characters randomly died in I think 4, and the only things that happened in all of 5 and 6 were some boring fanservice and a very drawn out fight with no stakes against the bomb girl.
Understandable, I will your life.
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Yes, I can sleep comfortably knowing I haven’t watched cartoons since I was a preteen. And no, anime is no different than a normal cartoon, no matter how “cultured” you want to pretend it makes you.
I thought shows like Invincible going mainstream would have changed people's mind about all this.
What is it about things being lines on a canvas that makes it inherently "childish" anyway?
They can't handle having their mediocre cartoons made fun of lol. Anime is like fast food, it's okay to enjoy it once in a while but don't go pretending it's some high art
It's not really about goyslop anymore. Some people seem to have some sort of personal crusade against anything japanese no matter what it is. If it's from Japan it's automatically bad because ALL Japanese are pervert pedophiles that only produce shitty media "I'm also definitely not prejudiced against Japanese btw".
Frieren is great but some people can't control themselves and actually see if the thing they're complaining about is true or the right target and those guys are everywhere.
It’s honestly so funny. It would be like saying, “I don’t watch Hollywood movies because a lot of them have sex scenes”
The definition of improper generalization
Oh golly, I cannot believe that the imagery of a 4chan post could be incorrect! Oh the agony! Erm sir excuse me for expressing myself in this manner but something clearly is not right with your list! This Japanese animation, Sousou no Frieren, is obviously not fit to be compared to the likes of heinous works such as Komi Cannot Communicate or Dress Up Darling! I suggest that you revise this list immediately, for you shall face my flintlock pistol in a duel if you do not comply!
Woe, survivorship bias be upon ye
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So The Office is simultaneously the same as Flowers of Evil, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Gintama?
I always hate sitcoms so I never actually watched much of the office, but if that's true I may need to give it a shot
Generally speaking. I’m thinking more a long the lines of attack on Titan, Demonslayer, Chainsawman, MHA etc. mind numbingly boring, cliche, and uninspired all of them
Literally whatever the fuck the content is?
My dude, "basic power fantasy bullshit" doesn't have your character be motivated by the idea of touching boobs, get to touch boobs and then realize that he isn't actually interested in touching boobs but in intimacy and love.
I’d say look at the writing structure but since wanting to touch boobs is what you consider good character writing you’d probably be too stupid to know what good writing is if it shit down your throat
First if you think Denjis only goal was touching boobs this shows me you're incredibly media illiterate because if that was his one and only goal the series would've been over at volume 4 or 5, it's literally explicitly shown that after denji gets his goal he's extremely unsatisfied and it's clear he wants more aka love and affection which ties back into his upbringing of basically growing up alone his whole childhood and it falls into his real goal having a normal life, I'd definitely say that's some pretty good character writing especially with the fakeout goal that only serves to reinforce his real goal.
Second would you care to explain how his goal is in anyway generic? A generic shonen goal is something like wanting to get stronger or wanting to make a dead relative proud for an example yuji itadori, despite being one of my favorite mcs in anime, he has an extremely generic goal which basically boils down to following his dead relatives wish, you can dislike Denjis goal of touching boobs or his actual goal of wanting intimacy and love and wanting to have a normal life but you can't just say it's generic when it's clearly not. Finally even if touching boobs was his one and only goal why is that a bad thing exactly? A characters goal is meant to do a couple things, add to that characters characterization, guide the story if the character in question is the mc and lastly develop the story's central theme(optional if side character), I'd say the touching boobs as a goal does all of those well, it adds to Denjis characterization it also guides the story and when denji realizes that it's not that he wants to touch boobs but he wants love and affection and a normal life, it sets in place the main theme of csm of becoming more human because as denji continues through the story he gains something he never had, a family this changes how he acts how he views life and how he reacts to the world around him thus in his mind finally having somewhat of a normal life and therefore becoming more human, if you personally don't like his goal that's fine but writing it off as bad writing is stupid.
INB4 I'm not reading allat here's a tldr:
First Denjis only goal isn't to touch boobs it's just a minor goal that serves to hide his main goal of wanting a normal life
Second Denjis goal is far from generic especially within the genre of shonen
Lastly Denjis goal of touching boobs isn't Actually a bad goal and serves it's purpose of serving his actual goal pretty well.
I ain’t reading any of that + you’re like 12 years old I wouldn’t expect you to know what competent writing is. You’re in the target age range for that of course you’re going to think it’s good. You’ll understand when your frontal lobe is developed
Dawg I wrote a tldr at the end but whatever I don't know what chainsaw man did to you to make you have so much hate towards it or why you have such a vividly hateful reaction towards anyone defending but hey you do you lil bro.
I'm tired of modern anime. It's mostly just quirky female character is cute does cute thing and it's immediately praised. Rinse and repeat one million times.
I’ve always heard it used in the context of fast food, i.e. “McDonalds or Burger King is goyslop”. This is my first time seeing it applied to media though.
I’ve never gotten the fascination for a virgin.
Would you want an Uber driver that’s never driven before, is extremely self conscious of anything going wrong, and will also be in pain a majority of the time?
Fuck that, I wanna fuck an experienced driver. I’m finna clap that Pilot Sully’s cheeks, mofo would probably be so relaxed, and know how to confidently pleasure me and himself.
Edit: wtf I lost myself in the metaphor there..
The metaphor is that you are the uber driver. Would you rather drive a brand new car or a car that has a million miles on it?
There's studies that show that increased amount of sex partners leads to higher chances of divorce. The reasons theorized is that the more partners you've had, the more comparisons you can make. What are the chances that the person you marry is going to be the one with the biggest ability to satisfy you? You might feel disappointed when you compare them with previous lovers.
When both parties are virgins, they get to learn to have sex together and learn what pleases each other best without the need to compare each other to past lovers. Just because the first time is going to be shit, doesn't mean it can't get better.
>bocchi the rock chainsaw man konosuba
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Lemme fill in the gaps and fix some.
Uzaki-chan - She's not a minor but is designed as a kid with huge tits. I'd put it into the "500 hundred years old loli" pile but they don't even try and just say 18.
Nagatoro - Pretty fanservice heavy with highschoolers. Nagatoro looks very childlike(petite/flat discourse) but there are characters that are just straight up highschoolers with giant boobs. so yeah.
Chainsaw man - Denji is kinda groomed but it isn't really painted in a positive light, it's more like trauma fuel, so nah.
Spy X Family - Lots of child characters but with zero fanservice. Very wholesome, safe and cute school antics.
Dress Up Darling - This one is a bit tough, because while they *are* in high-school, they're basically depicted as adults living with their parents(somewhat, cuz Marin basically lives alone). There *is* a school cosplay arc, but tbh the school felt more like a pretext to their meeting than a point for sexualization. They're both designed as adults too, no infantilization at all. It's like, young adult romance with fanservice. I'd say it's safe if you're willing to see them as such.
Bocchi - haven't seen it, no idea. seems wholesome from the memes I've seen.
Komi-san - Eh. Like, I think it had *some* fanservice, but is mostly wholesome as far as I remember? The eventual bikini chapter and mention of Manbagi's boobs. Like, I'd get it if someone were to be bothered over it but it's not that bad. It's a romantic comedy, I'd give it a pass.
Onimai - Softcore loli porn. Couldn't watch the first ten minutes of it, and I can take some pretty gross shit. Feels icky just to hear the MC talk, let alone the bathroom stuff, sister stuff, etc.
Takagi-san - no idea.
Konosuba - Yes. Shit attempt at comedy with fanservice of an underage, child-looking girl. It isn't constant but Megumin is clearly there to fulfill a role.
Frieren - No. The female elves may be childlike in appearance but there's no fanservice of them. They're just small and ageless. The manga has a serious tone in general, so there's not much space for sexualization outside of some outfits anyway.
Dragon Maid - Tries to pretend it's wholesome but has a whatever years old dragon loli with huge boobs. Also an extremely shit attempt at comedy or romcom or whatever.
As someone who doesn’t watch nearly enough anime to know the actual cliches, my reading from watching Konosuba and the discourse around it was that it was trying to be a satire of anime/the reborn in a new world genre, no?
I agree with the downvoted guy tbh, it satirizes some stuff but falls into other shit cliches all the same. I thought it was good, but massively overrated
Yes, but no. At a first glance, it does indeed break free from a lot of the isekai cliches. But then it just falls into a lot of others. One Punch Man is straight up shōnen satire, for example, even if it has its cliche moments they're mostly gags anyway. Konosuba tries too hard to be funny, to the point where it's tiring. Like, the point isn't satirizing isekais, it's just an isekai that "doesn't" take itself seriously.
And it isn't even funny to begin with, it's just fanservice with "look, I stole her panties MWAHAHAHA" humor.
That’s fair. I have watched a single digit amount of anime in my life so I probably just don’t really notice the cliches it falls for. Also thanks for the actual name of the genre, Isekai is much easier to say than the other shit.
Y'know. What is it with anime and either having their characters: look like adults in physique, act mature, be 15-16. (Eg. Almost any main character in JoJo, any 'coming of age' type story, really)
Or: look like toddlers, act childish as fuck, be 3000 years old. (Eg. Dragon Maid, any of the other 'actually she's a 2500 year old demigod' anime, idk)
Japan tricks me into reading Gushing over Magical Girls after seeing all the memes, then a literal goddamn child appears. I go, "At least they don't sexualize her in any scene." Then shows me character bios and goes, "All the characters are 16! :)"
Japan. You gotta stop this.. I liked where the plot was going. The art? Mwah. It's great, I love it when the characters go into complete psycho-mode and start actually fighting. You can't just pull that one out of nowhere.
Eh, western media does this too, in a way. You don't ever see teenage/highschool movies with actual teenagers, it's mostly young-looking adults.
I think there are a few factors. First, the highschool dynamic allows for easier sitcom/slice of life storywriting. When you plan out a plot for adult characters, you have to factor in work, meeting places, and responsibilities. Teenagers will *always* meet at school on a daily basis, and their time can be distributed into school activities(very social), club activities(pure sitcom material), and hanging out(for romantic purposes, for example). This also allows for a lot of cliches that the anime community snorts up like grade A coke: school festival, summer fair/fireworks, schooltrip to another city, beach episode, visiting sick friend at home, new year new classroom, valentines + white day, etc.
Second, it's relatable to a young audience. Someone in their 15-25s can obviously look up and love more mature figures, but it's the young setting that gives that "ah, I wish I could be living that right now" feeling. This also aggravates the pedobait stuff, imo, because no one relates to children unless they're one themselves, so whole point of a show is just straight up pedobait a lot of the times.
Third, Japanese people are weird. The Jojo stuff just doesn't make sense, for example. They're all underaged Arnold Schwarzenegger.
A lot is because a big part of the audience is teens?
Something like Dress Up Darling has its main demographic being teenagers, it's a fact.
And what do you think appeals more to teenagers? People their age or slightly older. It's more personal, it works.
It's full of stuff like this in western television since the 70s for fuck's sake: teenagers like teenagers being cool and hot. I know, I was a teenagers until 8 years ago lmao.
And when the design can be either a "late teenager" and also a "young adult", these discussions lose meaning. Jotaro is canonically a minor but he is built like a fucking gorilla. You can say he is 17 as much as you can say he is 30.
The real problem is "actually 1000 years old dragons" because it's \*obvious\* that the point is sexualizing a character that looks like a minor and implying that's fine because their mental age is that of an adult, not that of a child.
If somebody looks at Frieren and says "this is for pedos" they really need to go outside and touch some grass.
And making those characters "15" is still the weirdest decision for that story. Even if canonically it's undeniable that both of these characters are teens and still go to school.
But like not even debating that Marin and Gojo don't "look" 15, they are straight up stated to be canonically really tall for Japanese adults, hell Gojo would be tall for a western man. And you see it in various scenes. (This is important because a lot of anime will make even 16-17 year olds be significantly shorter than adults that are just a few years older. Like a character will be of the age where they would go to college next year and still be a head shorter than any adult.)
They both have jobs and income that is clealry far beyond what any 15 year old should have. Marin is apparantly a proffesional model and ,while Gojo helping to run a family shop doesn't require a specific age, he is very much treated as a profesional in a traditional craft who is getting close to actual mastery. And while this is an anime, that feels like a very specific framing in comparison to most stories of similar type, where student characters will work far simpler jobs and it would be a far smaller aspect of it all.
They also both live arguably alone, even if Gojo lives in a shop with his grandfather, and at least Marin to some degree covers her own expenses.
They are also shown to be way more mature than characters they encounter outside of school that should be their peers age wise.
They also don't even really have any immature moments that characters you are supposed to see as young usually do. Like yes they do get embarassed around each other, but usually handle it competently and if scene needs it, profesionally.
Like compare it to any other waifubait or romantic comedy show, even like Kaguya, and My Dress Up Darling characters very much feel older and seem to have been written almost as early 20 something year olds who are already adults sure, but have some childish hobbies potentially and immature reactions sometimes.
I guess it must have been a choice because people can't self-insert into older people?
Yeah but she looks and acts like a 20yo and have you seen the quality of the fan service? It's the good shit.
There are some dog whistle anime girls for people to find attractive but Marin is not one of them
Bro Dragon Maid has a Character with huge tits who looks like a child and walks around in a thong. Dress up Darling has a Highschool girl in underwear in the first episode. What are you talking about.
Highschool girl doesn't necessarily mean pedobait, it's a drawing, its fictional age doesn't matter, what does is whether it looks like an adult or not and it's the case here. "8000 year old" goddesses that looks like childs are pedobait, "16 year old" anime girls that looks like pornstars aren't
It's a weird twilight zone. Age doesn't matters until it does. Age is meaningless if the character looks like x and people want to shit on it but it matters again when they cant say anything about the character's looks but they are said to be below 18 yo.
While you have a good point, I would say that both are equally wrong. Having a 1000 year old character, that’s dressed like a stripper and looks like a child, is trying to normalize the sexualization of the appearance of a child. On the other hand, having the same character but inverted i.e. looking like an adult but being 14 but still dressed like a stripper, is trying to normalize the sexualization of a minor as long as she is appearing to be older than she is.
Ask yourself, would you rather have a girlfriend that looks like a 14 year old but is 20 or have a 14 year old girlfriend that looks like 20. Neither? That’s because both is equally wrong. So discussing the problematic in of those cases isn’t contradicting the other one.
Everyone thinks Marin is older. She looks and acts older.
Marin is written and designed to be extremely attractive, and the age they tacked on afterwards feels out of place to the story.
Anime ages are pretty much irrelevant unless dealing with blatant depictions of children. Classic stuff like Guren Lagan has the "14yo" Yoko Littner looking and acting like a foul mouthed stripper. JoJo has "16yo" guys with the physique of Olympian gods and the voice of a 50 year old who gargles rocks and whisky every morning.
Listen the “age doesn’t matter as long as she looks over 18” argument is cool and all. But using it to justify a clearly stated adult character to be a child is really fkn weird man
Why did we stop killing people with hammers over their taste in Anime? Let’s mog this guyZ
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Behold, we studied 100 captive Thai men...
> several hundred pages of horrific experiment documentation later
And that's how we arrived at the basis for our new line of treatment, "HRT"
I just look out up, here are 2 definition from the urban dictionary:
Something made for mindless mass-consumption, to maximize profits for already-rich monopolies, and/or to enforce the status quo.
What your typical millennial consumes. Addictive dishes such as Disney's Star Wars and Amazon's The Boys. The entertainment equivalent of Taco Bell. May sound good, but continued consumption leaves you feeling disgusting.
Whoever wrote that definition needs a little re-education. Disney's Star Wars and The Boys are pretty far from eachother in quality, intent and execution. The only thing they got in common is being funded by a megacorp and being popular.
Something something antisemitic remarks something something “people who enjoy stuff are subhuman, not me though i only consume cultured media like mlp figurines” something something blah blah blah
You can talk about something without obsessing over it. The people overreacting to a discussion (in defense or otherwise) are generally where the true cringe is.
yeah but the first anon is definitely obsessing over it. If the deal breaker for u not watching a show is that they arent virgins then ur mentally handicapped
What do you mean? He makes an observation about a difference and then writes "?????". He doesn't even indicate one to be better than the other, certainly doesn't say it's a deal breaker. You halucinated lies about a stranger on the internet.
Honest question, do you even understand that?
Genuinely, I know some people lack basic comprehension skills, but the first anon is most definitely implying that Japanese cartoons are superior to American shows because they are virgins. I don't know if you are like purposefully trolling me or what, but it should be very obvious to anyone with a brain that the first guy most definitely does not watch modern American shows with a key factor as to why being the reason he listed.
It ain't a masterpiece, but it's not that bad either. Humour is vulgar and heavily influenced by Japanese culture, but it got a few laughs out of me, and for me it's enough to be considered good.
Stuff Jews supposedly spread to put non-Jews down and make them inferior. Basically useless or damaging shit, and ranges anywhere from food to medicine to media and anything else that's addictive.
In this case, movies and shows may be arguably "good" in the sense that they're entertaining, but it's goyslop because it provides no benefit to you as an individual and may even be harmful because it takes away from your time to learn or do something useful.
Ultra Orthodox Jews do not have TVs in their homes and only use computers for business purposes, this is because any form of media is capable of brainwashing or getting you addicted and keep you from doing actual useful things.
There was a recent scandal where supposedly TikTok in China played videos of science and inspirational videos as well as displaying talents of amazing people. Whereas TikTok in America plays videos of people playing pranks on their parents and spouses, as well as doing illegal things. Eventually, the young people watching these videos start to follow their examples and end up ruining their whole life over it, whereas the Chinese kids are actually learning science on TikTok.
Basically the same thing, but replace Chinese with Jews.
I loved it when denji chainsawman pulled his cord and yelled "Jews shall inherit the earth and all the white woman with it" really put tears into my eye
That's the most batshit insane thing I ever read in my life lol, 4chan will literally see people having fun and begin screaming about "tHE JoWs?!?!" for no reason whatsoever.
This is so fuckin funny to me when mfs who never step foot in China clutch their pearls at TikTok and screech *sCieNcE ViDeOs!!* as if their kids aren't watching just as much stupid schlock as ours. Type of people who think kids click "I am not 18" on porn sites lmao.
The only reason you don't see as much hooligan brainrot in China is cuz the kids never get out much in the first place.
So from top to bottom the japanese shit is porn, porn, nazi propaganda, rare good anime, porn, idk, idk, porn, porn, satirical porn, rare good anime, porn.
Retarded incels on 4chin acting like virginity is a personality trait. I swear, these people will never be able to get laid because they wouldn't be able to have sex with a virgin without paradoxically stopping her from being a virgin.
Majority of anime is literally made for children, with most of the main characters often being children, or young adults.
The equivalent to the "western media" that anon is talking about would be seinen, in which sex often is shown, or at least many of the adult characters are in relationships, which would imply they would have had sex.
In conclusion anon is a retard
> seinen, in which sex often is shown, or at least many of the adult characters are in relationships, which would imply they would have had sex
Most of seinen is CGDCT.
Personally I think it's more of shows outside the west don't try to tell me how much of a bad person I am, they usually don't have some kind of message to push (right or left) and have a story to tell instead.
They're all virgins because they're all school girls
The culture that has made hundreds of thousands of cartoons of school girls getting gangraped by tentacle monsters, and everyone and everything imaginable doesn't really have much room to grand stand.
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