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Where does the sing song list speech come from?

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Educational_Crow8465@reddit

The up speak cadence always reminds me of the "Valley Girl" accent from the west coast. One of the most well known American accents alongside the New York accent. Up speak is annoying to most of us, not everyone does it.
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

Of course, I know there's lots of American accents. Thank you
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Puukkot@reddit

OK, so I haven’t listened to the examples. I think I know what you mean, though. I’m hearing this : “So I went to the store, and I picked up some BREAD, and some BUTter, and some JAM, and a carton of CHESTERFIELDS…” As you will have noticed from the example, I am too old for either upspeak or vocal fry. I recognize this pattern, though. I might do this if I wanted to emphasize the number of things in the list: “So then my boss made me do the COPying, and the FILing, he made me clean the BREAK room…” (back of the hand pressed to the forehead in a tragic pose). Or,I might be talking to my wife: “Hey, darlin’, I was busy while you were out. I cleaned the BATHroom, swept the FLOORS, cleaned the WINdows, fixed the CABinet latch…” It’s a whimsical tone; not something I’d pull in a formal meeting or anything.
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

I think that's pretty much spot on
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DOMSdeluise@reddit

Could you share an example please
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

23:50 [Life Jolt] Episode 5: Inside and Indigenous #lifeJolt https://podcastaddict.com/life-jolt/episode/157620274 via @PodcastAddict It's only a short list, but it's a perfect example
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Educational-Bad2594@reddit

Please check out this video starting at 10:45. https://youtu.be/IsE_8j5RL3k Growing up in the Midwest next to a reservation this is where my thoughts went immediately. The podcast you shared is an indigenous woman speaking and sounds very similar to the Native American accents in the Dakotas. Very rhythmic. It's a short piece of a very interesting 2 part accent trip through the US!
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

Thanks for this!
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heatrealist@reddit

Maybe she is just doing it to give herself time to think of the next item in the list. 
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worrymon@reddit

In that instance, it sounds like she's stretching the word to give herself more time to think of the next item on the list.
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PurchaseSignal6154@reddit

It reminds me of the [“influencer accent”](https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1228067629), but I have heard people talk like this irl
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StopSignsAreRed@reddit

Oh my god. Influencer accent, it’s annoyed me forever but I never knew it had a name. I hate it.
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TheLastRulerofMerv@reddit

The CBC is garbage. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Broadcasters on the this of the pond are trained to talk nasally like that so everyone can understand them. In this specific example that's a pretty a-typical English Canadian accent with the tone of a broadcaster.
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

The place I heard it originally was the American podcast Ear Hustle
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TheLastRulerofMerv@reddit

Yeah it's like a nasally sound with that type of cadence that is sing songy. They're trained to talk that way.
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FivebyFive@reddit

Soundsike up speak. Not everyone does it. A lot of us find it annoying. https://matrix.berkeley.edu/research-article/whats-upspeak/
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

Thank you
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AmericanMinotaur@reddit

Bro that’s so weird. I didn’t notice anything the first time I listened to it, and had to look through the comments to get a feel for what you were talking about. I know I’ve definitely talked like that before, but I’ve never really conscientiously thought about it! Now I’m curious too.
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WulfTheSaxon@reddit

Just sounds like a Canadian suffering from a lot of uptalk.
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

They do it all the time in the US podcast I listen to. I was actually surprised that the Canadians do it too. As soon as I find an example, I'll post it
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xworfx@reddit

Doesn’t really answer your question but the Welsh are known for their sing songy speech (according to my welsh grandma).  
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

Very true, Brummies too
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Technical_Plum2239@reddit

I never thought of it but it give the verbal clue that these are all things on that list. Do other languages not do that?
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nemo_sum@reddit

This is it, for me. Your description made it click, I could visualize what OP was asking about. Yeah, I do it when listing things.
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

I'm not sure tbh
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Salty_Dog2917@reddit

https://youtu.be/qWLhdxtKKp8?si=cg5kMRgARZkxmOZP here ya go.
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webbess1@reddit

It's called many things: uptalk, vocal fry, millennial fry etc.. It is a feature most common in young, white middle-class females. According to Dr. Geoff Lindsey, it does exist in Britain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0yL2GezneU
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QuarterMaestro@reddit

Part of it could be that people who do public speaking for a living (like appear on podcasts etc) make an effort to modulate their pitch etc in order not to seem monotone and boring.
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

Yes, that make sense
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palishkoto@reddit

This style of speech is spreading over to British English in my experience. I definitely do it sometimes. I think it probably just comes from being a verbal indicator that it's in a list. French has something similar in terms of verbally marking a list but the intonation is [a bit different](https://youtu.be/b8h67HW0ED4?feature=shared) (not a great example but the first I could find).
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PullUpAPew@reddit (OP)

Thank you. I've not heard it amongst British English speakers, but I'll be on the look out for it
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palishkoto@reddit

I first noticed it when I had a lecturer in uni ten years ago who used to do it, but it definitely seems to be becoming more common nowadays (largely among young women in my experience).
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thatsad_guy@reddit

I have never heard/given attention to that. If I had to guess, I would say it's to break up the monotony of a list, but that's a total shot in the dark.
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