Total boat wet edge paint
Posted by bright_yellow_vest@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 19 comments
Put on a single coat in a small test area. Days later I was able to easily press my fingernail and leave a mark. Is this normal?
MisterMasterCylinder@reddit
Not from my experience with it. It's definitely not the most durable paint in the world, but I did my boot stripe with it and it has held up fine. Dried hard and reasonably glossy.
Maybe you got an old or defective batch? Or didn't mix it enough, or maybe put on a really thick coat? Whatever happened, you shouldn't be able to easily scratch it with your fingernail.
bright_yellow_vest@reddit (OP)
It was definitely a thick coat
-_sean_-@reddit
The directions say to lay it on thin. If you roll it out thin and chase with a wet brush (I use a wet foam brush), it's hard not to get a good result.
Schoonicorn@reddit
A thick coat might never fully cure in places. Painting too thick means the top of the coat can fully cure before all solvents are able to off gas out. They're trapped just like clapping a lid on a paint can. The application instructions should list a max mil thickness per coat. If you've way exceeded that, you might be kinda screwed.
MisterMasterCylinder@reddit
Might just need more time to finish curing, then.
sailphish@reddit
Do not use this paint. It will eventually cure a lot harder than that, but all 1 part boat paints are relatively soft. They fade quickly and scratch easily. Much better to use a 2 part marine paint. It costs a bit more, but results are WAY better. I did a little skiff with Wet Edge and it’s all scratched up and faded after just a few years.
bright_yellow_vest@reddit (OP)
I'm trying to refinish the transom after having to repair cracking around the gudgeons. Should I just gel coat it instead?
canofmixedveggies@reddit
if you've got a small area try it. I like TotalBoat products, but not when they cost as much as the better interlux products which is becoming to often.
look up Interlux perfection, wear a very good respirator with the chemical filters.
I spent the extra $10 to buy interlux bright sides over the wet edge on my cal. (it already had been painted in a single part paint) single part paints last around 5 years, sometimes much longer before they start to fail. a well applied two part (especially awlgrip) can last decades.
gelcoat is something that's ok for small repairs but it's a LOT of work over large areas to make look nice. modern paints don't require all the effort and sanding, they self level which also helps reduce orange peel.
you can put one part over a two part paint, but not the reverse. also using the appropriate thining agent helps with brushing. don't get greedy, go for many thin coats not heavy coats
bright_yellow_vest@reddit (OP)
Interlux is actually whats currently on it. I googled "catalina 25 outboard motor mount" to reference where others have theirs mounted and found the listing for my boat from the previous previous owner. Got lots of useful info from the listing since the guy I bought it from had no clue about anything
Lavendercrimson12@reddit
I used total boat primer and non skid. Two thin coats of each, recommended time or longer between each. The paint took three days before it was rock hard, but now it's been durable.
TheAmicableSnowman@reddit
I did a boot stripe with it. I think I likely went too thick but it did eventually cure, hard and glossy, and looked reasonably good for my first effort at boat painting I think. I'd say it took the better part of 10 days outside in mixed conditions.
I'm going to do the hull this spring and will try to discipline myself to go very thin.
boatboy420@reddit
TotalBoat has excellent customer service with really knowledgeable and experienced boaters who use their products to answer all your questions. Rather than me guess why this happened, call them up and they'll get you sorted in 15 minutes.
Significant_Tie_3994@reddit
Possibly with the johnny-come-lately brands like TB, but not with competent brands like PPG, RPM (Rust-Oleum), and 3M. Longer answer is how thick did you coat it such that your fiingernail can indent it? That might be your problem there, paints rarely cure well when laid on too thick.
somegridplayer@reddit
TB is just rebranded paint.
Significant_Tie_3994@reddit
...which makes it even more a curative issue: PPG likes enamels and vitrefaction, 3M likes UV curing, and RPM likes slow drying oil redox.
somegridplayer@reddit
You forgot AkzoNobel.
Significant_Tie_3994@reddit
No, they forgot my grandpa's paint store when I was at the age of deciding what brands were worth a damn.
Planterizer@reddit
Nope. Should be rock hard. What's the temp/humidity like where you're working? That can be a factor with lots of paints.
I used epoxy paint in hellacious heat (was warned not to) on the bottom of my laser and it's still shitty and leaving marks on the trailer cushions.
That said, I did the deck 2 weeks later in the same conditions with TB wet edge and it did fine.
flyingron@reddit
Those one part polyurethanes can take a week to cure fully.