This should be illegal. Surely it contravenes the EU legislation?

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creiar@reddit

> This should be illegal. Overreaction level 1000

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Please take your childish responses elsewhere, they contribute nothing to this discussion about Microsoft contravening antitrust laws that came about as a result of various class action lawsuits that they lost.

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HEONTHETOILET@reddit

Sometimes I cross the street outside of a crosswalk

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

or just keep acting like a petulant child I guess...

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

A petulant child would be stamping thier feet demanding what they want now, Now, NOW. Remind you of anyone? (go find a mirror if you need a hint)

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

dude fuck off, you're boring me

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Aggravating-Look8451@reddit

r/shittyadmins

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Poor little snowflake came to the interwebz for a hug but didn't get one, d'awwwww

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

fucking hell you people never change

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slippery_hemorrhoids@reddit

what do you mean by "you people" you racist

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Aggravating-Look8451@reddit

![gif](giphy|ro08ZmQ1MeqZypzgDN)

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Man makes fair point. I agree its a shitty practice but 'made illegal' is a somewhat overly strong reaction.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

it was literally made illegal.

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Yeah, it was, 30 years ago. Game is different now.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

it's not - that's why Apple now have to offer a default web browser selection screen on iOS to comply with local laws: https://developer.apple.com/support/browser-choice-screen/#:~:text=To%20meet%20the%20requirements%20in,opens%20Safari%20on%20their%20iPhone.

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HEONTHETOILET@reddit

Citation needed

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Sasataf12@reddit

Exactly what EU legislation are we talking about here?

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MzCWzL@reddit

Let’s say I use multiple browsers for my day to day work (mostly because I do). Edge has all my default work credentials. Therefore, I want to open anything work related in edge. But I don’t want edge to be my default browser, that’s Firefox’s job. Chrome is the browser for parent company credentials. Why would this be illegal? It gives you choice.

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xxbiohazrdxx@reddit

It actively takes away your choice and forces you to jump through hoops to get it the way it was before.

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Tw1stedDimensions@reddit

Hoops? Lol

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Jumping through hoops is a saying that means a task requires many steps to complete, it is not known for being a compliment :P

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Tw1stedDimensions@reddit

I'm aware of what it means. But it's very strange for someone in this sub to say that about this process, almost seems like a gross exaggeration to try to make a point.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

My technical skills have nothing to do with the fact I'm having to change a default browser for hundreds of users every few months

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xCharg@reddit

Weird, my technical skills were enough to set default browser once in 2018 or something and it's literally been unchanged since then with zero issues.

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tankerkiller125real@reddit

Microsoft Edge is also the only browser with the fancy pop out things that bring the context of the link into the browser sidebar thing. And the only one with Co-Pilot baked in if your org has that licensing.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

additional features doesn't excuse them undermining the antitrust laws

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Sasataf12@reddit

How is that anti-trust? If you don't want to use Edge, then you can choose to use your default browser.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

If you can't see how it undermines the legal rulings on default browsers like the majority of people in this thread are able to, I don't think my answer is going to help you.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

the default setting should be your default browser If I wanted it to default to a non-default browser, I would go out of my way to change the setting All of my credentials are in Chrome, not Edge.

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Correct, it should. I also \*should\* be getting bedbaths from Maisie Williams but sadly just because a thing should be doesn't mean it will be.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

Maisie Williams wasn't instructed by a judge to give you bedbaths - that's the difference

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Obviously, you'll get what I meant eventually.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

You literally posted another example of Microsoft overextending their reach in this thread - yet you persist on arguing about me exerting the same level of frustration over a different example of them doing exhibiting the same behaviour. Your social ineptitude leaves a lot to be desired. Read the room - I don't know if you've been diagnosed or not but jesus fucking christ

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CaptainFluffyTail@reddit

> Read the room - I don't know if you've been diagnosed or not but jesus fucking christ Be better. If you want to call somebody names or use autism as a pejorative just fucking do it.

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HEONTHETOILET@reddit

Why are people storing credentials in their web browsers

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

because we're not all paranoid individuals and we appreciate the convenience

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HEONTHETOILET@reddit

I'm trying to reconcile this... so it's convenient to store your credentials in your web browser but the convenience threshold is crossed by some extra mouse clicks when the non-default browser is used. Am I understanding that correctly

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

I store credentials in my browser for convenience Having to change the default browser in 2 separate locations is the opposite of convenience Clearly, as someone that likes convenience, I'm going to take issue with something that is inconvenient. It's not rocket science. Why are you here to argue? You disagree with the thread - that's fine, move the fuck on.

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Aggravating-Look8451@reddit

"You disagree with the thread - move on" That's not how discussion forums work. If you want to rant without anyone countering your rant, start a substack account.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

Okay I'll just block you instead

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HEONTHETOILET@reddit

If you used an actual password manager then it wouldn't matter which browser you used :)

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

Yeah, sign me up for extra steps that offer no extra security while sharing my credentials with even more third parties whose tools are specifically targeted by blackhats designing malware for those tools.

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HEONTHETOILET@reddit

1Password is pretty solid. They've been around since 2006. None of their data was compromised during the Okta breach. Beyond that I don't think they've ever been breached. Personal accounts are really reasonably priced at $2.99/month; business accounts run $7.99/user/month.

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Aggravating-Look8451@reddit

r/shittyadmins

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

How many cyber attacks have you fallen prey to in your entire career? My number is 0 in 13 years

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ImPackingMyJorts@reddit

Personally I feel that as IT professionals its our job to be "paranoid" (read: cautious) about security. Credential theft is a legitimate threat and a half decent password manager is just as convenient and a million times more secure.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

Swapping one password manager for another password manager isn't a million times more secure - go on HF and see how many people are selling bespoke tools that target all of the main players in the password manager space You're putting confidence in something that already has a huge target on it's back

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realxt@reddit

Can Microsoft control what way a 3rd party browser deals with links within office documents, and how it handles credentials etc.? of course not. So it makes sense that they have created a method where they allow you to choose edge for links and resources within MS office. Your indignation at having a choice seems over the top ?

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

> created a method where they allow you to choose I don't have an issue with this. I have an issue with them setting Edge as the default, unprompted.

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CyclicRate38@reddit

Then you need to get over it. Seriously, Office is their product, of course their default browser is going to be Edge.

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p4ttl1992@reddit

Dunno but it's fucking annoying and it constantly resets/changes with updates randomly so I get people chasing me about things opening in edge all the fucking time.

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anonymooseantler@reddit (OP)

Oh but you're not allowed to complain about this - check out all the unpaid salesmen defending Microsoft in this thread because they're craving arguments

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ColdVait@reddit

When I saw that the first thing I thought was boy they sure want another lawsuit

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BleachedPumpkin72@reddit

Sometimes lawsuits and associated fines are just costs of doing business.

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pdp10@reddit

It also shows how incredibly badly Microsoft wants control over the web browser, to do such unsubtle and legally risky things.

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VarmintLP@reddit

In a way it at least gives you the option but it should be set to default browser instead of their stupid Edge that people only use because they don't know what else to use or because they want to download a better browser

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kmsaelens@reddit

Good ol' Microsoft. They never seem to learn from their past. Lol

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Eviscerated_Banana@reddit

Could be worse, the outlook app for android could be modifying the host OS to redirect all www searches to Bing... oh... wait.....

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