There is no joke a plan to temporarily fight climate change by nuking empty parts of the earth repeatedly, the dusk kicked up will buy us 50-60 years of normalized temperatures.
No it wasn’t us it was china’s punk ass, and probably India too. Nothing you (or any of us commoners) do really matters compared to them. There is *nothing* we can do.
we thought without the sun they couldn't survive, so instead of them just using nuclear power they turned everyone in to a human battery, look at this setup they must use more power keeping this thing running and than they got of it it. that's when I started to think the machines beef might be personal
It was supposed to be human minds as organic CPU processors, they were told to change it in production because no one would understand that newfangled internet back when it was just a nerd thing.
Nuclear takes way too long to build/scale up, renewables can be built far faster. Plus nuclear is more expensive, it's not going to be built if its not cost-competitive with solar/wind etc.
I love that we’re in the part of the climate crisis where we’re just like: “fuck it! localized nuclear winters are beginning to look like a viable option.”
Hello, climate scientist here! You’re wrong!
The developed world and their consumption is largely what drives the environmental abuse in developing nations.
The average American consumes around 13 hectares annually of resources. Compared to Europe which is around 5-8 hectares. Compare this to the developing world, which is around 1-3 hectares depending on location.
You’re wrong! Very wrong!
That would be inordinately stupid given the earth used to be way hotter and yet animals similar to us still lived on the surface. Back in the 1950s all the scientists were predicting disastrous global cooling. So take unproven science with a grain of salt like you're supposed to.
Well a great way to better visualize it is to actually look at what happens when a bomb goes off. This can be any kind of bomb really, but we do have video of nuclear tests online that show the massive scale of these explosions.
I'm sure you've seen mushroom clouds before and what you're seeing in that cloud is just dust degree and particles that got shot into the air from the massive force of the explosion. The difference with older atom bombs is they would contaminate that dust with radioactive particles that would also get shot up and carried around. Removing the radioactive aspects of this scenario you will still get a sizable cloud of dust shot into the air, but this just isn't going to give people radiation sickness. There are still health risks obviously like the fact that you might breathe in dust which is bad for your lungs. You just won't grow an extra limb or have your flesh melt off your arms. (Not that those are real symptoms of radiation sickness, but you get the point.)
Have you got a source paper for this? I'm not trying to throw shade here, this sounds ridiculous (and interesting!) I want to read more about this if I can!
Don't worry. If we don't destroy ourselves with WMDs, we will all starve to death from starvation when the farming system implodes in less than 60 years became Lyme runs out.
A chunk of humans will die off,but humans are adaptable and hardy, the next ones reproduce like rabbits to make up for it.
Civilization better be ready to leap frog between lands as places become unhabitable.
It's highly unlikely that humanity will end but if this continues it is almost guaranteed that civilization as we know it will stop or regress A LOT
Like, don't let "we won't go extinct" be a consolation. It's still gonna suck big time. Me, you and everyone reading this won't make it and nor will their children. Wars will be faught over basic resources like food and water. Areas we consider fertile and perfect for settlement will become deserts
>Me, you and everyone reading this won't make it and nor will their children.
Least paranoid climate take.
You are acting as if the air on earth will suddenly start burning. This is not what will happen. Average temperature will get a few degrees higher, which means that people in already hot climates will struggle while people in temperate zones will need to bear a few degrees more. Countries like Germany will start installing ACs and they will be fine.
We are producing several times the food that we need. We are able to filter sea water to make it drinkable. If you live in the civilized part of the planet, **your danger of starving or dying due to lack of water will not become notable due to climate change**.
really funny to think that the problems climate change will be solved by just “start installing ACs” as if personal climate control is the problem and not things like habitat devastation or a sudden collapse of biodiversity or changing weather patterns or desertification of arable land or chronic water shortages as consumption dramatically exceeds replenishment and we run out of aquifers.
You’re correct, and I can’t believe how moronic everyone else is.
People might have to move and insurance costs will increase, but that’s about it. Calling the threat “existential” is completely delusional.
People live in Antarctica, in the desert, Venice is literally underwater and sinking, you know what they did? Move up one floor.
We had 10x the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at one point, there were forests on the poles, temps were 8 degrees warmer and there was the largest explosion of life in evolutionary history. We’re going to be fine. Thriving even.
Which part are you confused about? That we thrive in any climate already or that life will be fine in your worst case fantasy scenarios?
I’m interested to hear what someone so smart as you thinks and is actually worried about. I’m sure it’s all based on conservative estimates and takes into account that humans have literally survived for a million years in all sorts of climates.
I’m not saying humanity is about to go extinct, but things are not going to be ‘just fine’.
You fully admit that things might change but do you have any idea what happens to an ecosystem when conditions change so rapidly that they can’t evolve quick enough to adapt?
Yes, things are already changing. Where we are, we have fewer days sub 0 in the winter and more days above 90 in the summer. Luckily, there are plants in almost every temperature range on this planet, we also have livestock, genetically engineered crops that can grow in nearly every growing zone, and a lot of technology that can capture carbon or reverse climate change effects if we need to deploy them.
The only reason we don't deploy carbon capture right now is because it's expensive and Nothing is changing even close to as fast or as drastic as you're implying, the animals will be fine. We have large populations of humans and animals in death valley California.
You: DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF AN ASTEROID HIT US?!?!
Me: There are no significant asteroids about to hit us. Projections of asteroids to come are so small they'll burn in the atmosphere, and we have proven technology to redirect any large asteroids should they come into our path.
You: THIS MUST BE SATIRE, DO YOU GET WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?!?
Me: Yeah. Same thing as I just said, there's literally nothing to worry about.
Chill bro, you have articulated nothing, your statements of catastrophe are backed by nothing but speculation because you clearly haven't looked into the issue at all beyond "everyone agrees on my team this is a major problem so I must also take the extreme position."
What do you know about the history of the planet's CO2 levels and how life has responded? I'm sure you know in the last 120 years we've gone from about 390 ppm CO2 to 440 ppm, an increase for sure. But I'm sure you also knew levels have been as high as 6,000 ppm. How many years do you think until we reach that point? Keep in mind we're already mitigating reasonably well.
What does sea level rising an inch a decade even mean to you? Are you honestly worried that we might have to build dykes and levees like in Amsterdam or New Orleans? Are you worried about sea walls being built? Are you concerned about Ocean-side property owners 100 years from now having to pay high taxes and insurance costs to protect their property? Why?
How do you think plant life responds to higher CO2 levels? (I'll give you a hint, plants grow much larger and fuller, resulting in CO2 mitigation which is part of the reason scientists have looked so dumb predicting faster change than has actually happened). Are there crops that grow in higher temperatures? Yeah, almost all crops can handle significantly higher temps. We grow grains in Canada and Oklahoma, and it shouldn't surprise you that there's way more than a 2 degree average temperature difference between these locations.
You really have no idea what you're talking about here. No one that is alarmed about climate change does, because if they did know all this, they wouldn't be alarmed. The people that are alarmed are making a lot of money on speaking tours and selling books. They cherry pick disastorous projections because there's nothing to sell otherwise. I'm not making anything here, I have no bias.
The truth about climate change is just that it's changing, very slightly, very slowly, yes accelerated by humans, and the biggest problem will be that it's expensive to deal with.
We are not mitigating reasonably well, you’re just sticking your head in the sand with your primary school understanding of how the biosphere works.
“We have humans living in Death Valley so we must be fine” as if humans living in inhospitable grow all their own food and collect all their water in their back garden.
Also carbon capture is not a real solution to climate change, you cannot simply wave a net in the air and take carbon dioxide out of the air for free.
I’m going to leave this conversation now since it’s extremely obvious that you don’t know what you’re taking about, I had a physics teacher that ran as an MP in a party that denies the existence of climate change who was more realistic about its possible effects than you are.
There's no real problem, you can't point to a single realistic problem we will have in the next 100 years. Everything you suggest will be disasterous has been predicted for 30 years with absolutely no change in the reality.
Once again, you've offered nothing besides saying "no, it's a huge problem just trust me, I listen to other people that told me it's a problem."
You miss the point on the Death Valley, we also have people living in Venice, and Maldives, and Antarctica, and the Amazon, and every other climate on the planet. Your notion it will happen quicker than we can adapt (using technology we already have) is supported by nothing.
Braindead take. The natural systems of our world are all interconnected, a couple degrees hotter can and will destabilize literally everything.
The AMOC is already collapsing, that will have catastrophic climate effects on coastal areas on either side of the Atlantic.
More dangerous and frequent storms, soil erosion, the death of insects, the death of oxygen producing algae in the oceans, all of this is catastrophic and will have insane ramifications.
The biggest one people like you cannot grasp is that areas that are already hot and dry will become inhabitable. And there people who live there aren’t just gonna stay still and wait to die. There will be billions of refugees from these parts of the world that there are no room for, at which point violence is inevitable.
How many years of life being the exact same until you admit you were duped into thinking it was a big deal? I’m 22 years in since I watched Inconvenient Truth and told everyone we were doomed until I found realists that framed it appropriately.
So for you, 25 more years? 50 years? At what point can we say we told you so?
I can understand your disbelief. When you’re misinformed and believe there’s a big catastrophe happening, it’s hard to believe it when decades go and the catastrophic changes are actually occurring much slower, with less effect, and humans are largely unbothered.
I don’t know what Germany and air conditioning has to do with this.
My guy, a ship being stuck in a canal caused a massive worldwide economic disaster
Do you really think that global food and water shortage, mass migrations and wars for resources won't push us over the edge into complete economic collapse? Our economy isn't built to resist a crysis, it just barely holds itself together as-is
What you're saying is stopping at layer 1 of thought on an issue with an uncountable amount of cascading layers of increasingly worse shitstorms
The only thing I noticed about the ship being stuck in the canal was the funny memes. I didn’t starve while it was stuck in the canal or anything, I barely noticed.
>My guy, a ship being stuck in a canal caused a massive worldwide economic disaster
No, it didn't. It caused a minor economic hiccup.
If your main premise is completely wrong, I don't need to address the rest of the comment. It's literally just paranoid gibberish
A temporary and negligible increase in inflation is a worldwide economic disaster now? And you're gonna just ignore the fact that it was much more because of the preexisting issues with shipping cuz of covid than anything else?
Some of us have been hearing this for 30 years and literally nothing has changed, nothing. Go watch an Inconvenient Truth from 2001 and laugh with me because we’re not underwater and absolutely nothing predicted has happened.
New Orleans is below sea level, so is the country of Denmark. Maybe you’ve heard of Venice? It’s completely built on water. We built new islands in Dubai, we have people living in Antarctica and in every desert, we grow food in giant indoor farms already.
You’re delusional, and I’m sorry you worry about something that will never seriously threaten humans.
You’re right I was. I’m sorry my Danish friend, Amsterdam -> Dutch -> Denmark, it’s a common American mistake. Point is the same though, land reclamation, dykes, levees are old, old technologies that humans can use as necessary.
You aren't wrong. Some countries will fair better off than others. However, rapidly changing climates are going to destroy global food supplies across the world. Many products that stock our grocery shelves will become unavailable, and most others will become wildly expensive, as the supply of resources starts to shrink and shrink and shrink.
A good book to read on this topic is Overshoot if you are interested in knowledge from someone who is far far smarter than I.
And tundra will become fertile.
I feel like this just isn't a take backed up by science. Certainly in the modern person's lifetime we're not gonna die off from climate change, what are you on about? It's certainly not a guarantee for everyone reading this like you're implying. That's not at all what any serious climate scientist is saying.
I don’t know, all animals are hardy and adaptable until something happens and they fail to adapt and go extinct. Past success is not much of an indication of future success.
No, not really, I was just drunk and wrong. Double checked (don’t know how accurate) data, and pop is still growing. But human population will plateau in a decade, decline lead by “western world” and China, compensated by Africa and muslim countries.
Tldr: beat me with stones, I made a mistake
Which places? Really cold ones where Inuits live or really hot ones where nomadic tribes people live? There's no such thing as an uninhabitable place and never will be.
Sure but how many people live in the arctic? And how many people can a place like the arctic sustain? Can’t farm anything up there. Even if the ice all Melts, that ground is useless soil. No good for farming.
It’s only bad because it’s frozen all the time. As the permafrost melts, dead plant matter will begin to decay and add much needed nutrients such as phosphorus to the soil. Nitrogen can be added to the soil by planting legumes as the first crops to be planted after the permafrost melts. Or with fertilizer.
Mainly the MENA regions, but for a closer example see florida. To keep it short, insurance companies are pulling out of there because they can see the writting on the wall, not the sole reason but one of the main ones.
Maybe not unhabitable since there is life even on the sahara, but bad enough that it becomes untenable for our standards.
that is not why they are pulling out your mouth breathing lib. They are pulling out because of bad laws making selling insurance untenable. 10 years ago when a hurricane came through and punched a hole in your roof, insurance would give a builder 1000 bucks to patch it and we move on. New legislation requires they buy you a whole new roof, that is 25K. Now their rate have to go up 20x to cover this shit law. Guess who is paying that shit? No one. So they leave.
Well I did say it was one of the reasons, not the sole one, fraud and litigation is also one of those.
Don't they call florida ground zero for climate change? Between the weather and the amount of times a hurricane has come to screw things, I still can't imagine why its still a split issue on policy.
Temperature isn't everything. Natural disasters drive people out, as well as ecosystem and crop collapse. We rely very heavily on the "services" the environment provides us.
There will be plenty of habitable land. It just won’t be where the habitable land is now. Literally billions will die. But humanity as a whole will survive.
Hopefully they’ll learn from our mistakes…
More like climate realist, humanity won't do shit unless the crisis is staring down at those in power, meaning everyone else is already fucked. They set goals and no one managed to achieve them as far as I know, if people were as active about climate change as they were about fixing Notre-Dame we wouldn't have a problem.
Can anyone tell me what the optimum temperature for the earth should be? It's been hotter and it has been colder over its history so what is the optimum temperature which is perfect for humans to live in? I'm genuinely interested nobody seems to know
Humans can survive most temperatures just fine, but the stable ecosystem that we’ve been working with for the last few thousand years which has helped us flourish develop and prosper works best at this current temperature. If the temperature changes too quickly for the global ecosystem to smoothly adapt to it, that’s when shit hits the fan
We have 70 degree temperature swings within one day in Minnesota, not an issue at all for some of the best farmland ecosystem in the world. I think you’re selling the ecosystem short. We’re going to be fine.
People already mentioned the animals, but it's also about our cities. If we were freshly settling Earth, maybe the optimal temperature would be warmer or cooler. But we already settled Earth, and built many of our cities on coasts. If the Earth heats up, those cities get flooded, and it's not some easy thing to move everyone up to the newly inhabitable areas in Canada and Russia that used to be frozen.
This is a very complicated question which doesn’t have a single “right answer” but this [graph from xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1732/)explains the issue quite well.
It’s not about humans, we’ll survive if temperatures get too high, it’s about animals and plants that support our ecosystems and allow our crops to grow and thrive. Bees die off pretty much right away when temperatures hit 40C. Extended periods of that means our most productive pollinators face regional extinction. No pollinators=no crops=starvation. I don’t think it’s about 1-2 degrees warmer on average, it’s a problem that revolves around unstable climate and extreme heat waves, storms, and cold snaps that have been more and more common in the past few years. Shit it hit 45 degrees C two summers ago in western Canada and 40 C the past three summers. That’s never happened before for as long as I’ve been alive.
I’m not a bee expert. And it didn’t hit 45 everywhere so it’s not like they’re extinct, they’ll come back and spread into the areas they died in ig. But this is reddit and I’m a retard so don’t take my comments as gospel
about 1.5 degrees celcius cooler, which was the global temperature before the industrial revolution. here’s the [graph](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change#/media/File%3ACommon_Era_Temperature.svg) of global surface temperatures from wikipedia
Nice try but nobody actually knows what the optimum temperature is because there's no way of knowing. The fact that we are all still alive at supposedly 1.5 degrees higher proves that 😁👍
It’s not about the absolute temperature, it’s about the rate it’s getting hotter. Hot or cool periods last millions of years, global temperature changes are measured over millennia. And then they were measured over centuries, then decades and now every year. People don’t understand what a giant rolling ball they’re trying to push back up the hill, and they won’t realize till it actually starts crushing things
There's different optimum temperatures for different animals to live in different environments. For example, a very warm earth with most of the globe completely uninhabitable and sea levels flooding half the world would still provide a great environment for some species to live in Antarctica.
However, that would also mean the extinction of most species so it's obviously not ideal.
In general we would want a slow change to give things time to adapt, sea levels to remain constant or even fall a bit (more land), and for all but the most extreme areas of the globe to be able to support some kind of life.
There's no optimum temperature for "the earth".
As you've said, it's been quite colder, and quite warmer, over time. Humans are quite adaptable.
The problem is the rate of climate change itself. Organisms aren't adapting fast enough. Droughts and extreme events (ex: hurricanes) are becoming more frequent. Oceans are rising (which causes floods in coastal areas) and acidifying - which kills sea life. These can, will, and *are* directly impacting our food supply.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/grantham/publications/climate-change-faqs/how-do-we-know-climate-change-is-happening/
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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
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-Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities.
I always rely upon the opening of a tale of cities when I get a bit too hooked in to doomerism
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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
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Despite the denial and doomerism, we are still making tremendous progress to fight climate change. For instance, did you know solar power became more economically vial than coal in 2016? Medias just don’t often report on positive news because fear and moral panic sells.
Climate change will never be a meaningful problem in your life. It’s literally not something to worry about.
Amsterdam, Venice, New Orleans are already built below sea level. Insurance prices for coastal properties are probably the biggest concern. The other changes will take hundreds of years to occur and we can rebuild anything we want to.
Disrupting the economy is 100% more detrimental than any side effect of climate change, and most of the predictions of climate change have already been shown to be huge exaggerations.
Carbon capture technology already exists, it’s just expensive and not currently worth it because there’s not actually a big looming threat.
If it was actually a problem we could stop using fossil fuels immediately. It will never be a bigger problem than stopping the use of combustion engines would be.
A guy ran for president and got a cunt’s hair away from winning by telling us Florida and NY would be underwater in a decade. Dont believe all the climate change bs, most is fiction
A looooooot of advancements have happened in green energy and it’s quickly out pacing fossil fuels in terms of profitability.
Bad thing about capitalism: it follows the money
Good thing about capitalism: it follows the money
Anon needs to realize that it is worth it to keep going. We can only make things as good as we can make them in the future, and the work to make our situation better starts now and will continue to always start now.
your future is decided by old and fat pedophiles that will continue to do whatever they can to drain every cent they can out of the world before they shit the bed and die.
The earth isn't going to become uninhabitable despite the doom and gloom. They used to say catastrophic cooling was going to happen but they're right this time for sure.
And you can just plant tons more trees to scrub CO2
The thing that is the most annoying about this is how everyone says "YOU NEED TO DO THIS, YOU NEED TO STOP DOING THIS" But like, how the fuck does me taking the car less have any kind of impact when big corpo keeps on spitting out tons of CO2 every single second and they're the problem. But nah, i should stop eating meat because it helps the planet.
Generally there is (or should be) 0 expectation that you live your life any differently. BP popularized the idea of a carbon footprint to shift the onus back onto us. Villains. https://mashable.com/feature/carbon-footprint-pr-campaign-sham
Only when the last road has been blocked, and the last factory has been closed, and the last car has been scrapped, will we realise that giving up any and all prosperity will not fix the climate and only prolong our suffering.
Seriously, if I have to give up everything that makes life worth living just to survive, what am I even surviving for? There is a reason why I want life support to be turned off if I would only ever wake up as a potato.
The entirety of the US could cease to exist and the planet would continue getting hotter. Fucking China and their 1.5 billion meats will guarantee it. No reason to make life shitty for no return.
Are they being used? No! Was there an incentive for local Chinese governments to build them? Yes. Did they notice this was a mistake at the state level? Yes.
Außerdem, als Deutsche aber China schreien auch echt immer wieder peinlich...
Thousands of generations came and went before factories and cars my guy. If your entire life hinges on convenience and consumerism then that’s a pretty pitiful existence.
Thousands of generations survived without shelter and fire. But it wasn't comfortable. It was survival. And why should I trade life for survival, what am I surviving for if not to live?
So being able to get cheap meat, heating your home with fossil fuels, driving and flying with fossil fuels and getting your PC juiced by fossil fuel electricity it what makes life worth living? We got the means to change all that, but that would mean less profits for the 0.001% and maybe some sacrifices for you and I, so I guess we rather run into the chainsaw laughing. And maybe shoot some refugees at our borders along the way.
Because otherwise, life would not be worth living I guess....
Quality of life is vastly responsible for how enjoyable life is, yes. If I can't eat tasty things, do fun things, life in relative comfort, and go and see the world to make experiences and gather memories, then what exactly am I giving all these things up for? If I have to give up life just to survive, then what am I surviving for?
Also, where the fuck did I say anything about refugees? Strawman very much?
You never did, I just ranted. But it will be the inevitable consequence of business as usual. If we don't do systematic changes, people will suffer.
And a lot of these changes would already be possible. But we don't do them, because we are lazy and/or greedy.
If your definition of having a nice life is making zero concessions on what you eat and how your energy is produced and how corporate profit and wealth are taxed, then there is no reason to have you participate in the question of how we fight climate change.
Bro, even just having better mass transportation systems, better waste management, and cleaner power production are all easily possible and wouldn't affect your bottom line at all. It seems like a moot point and kinda boomer to keep repeating why should I help or care when it might slightly impact my enioyment. Nuclear energy could replace fossil fuels, for example. You have nothing to give up for a lot of these changes to happen, but greed and laziness of others have gotten in the way of them happening constantly.
If you think the climate problems are bad wait until parts of the earth are uninhabitable and countries start all out wars for the last few plots of land that can support life.
wait till anon finds out about how they stated this stuff for the last 200 years since the beginning of the industrial stage they have stated this same stuff over and over again saying the same exact things like the world oceans will melt away or the all ice will be gone by 2004 was my favorite.
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Now I am not saying what we are doing isn't good just this has been said and done for the past 200 years and still nothing of major events has ever occurred.. also before we even do reach a point of no return will be more or less in another 1,000 years or more. That more years than you or me will ever get too see.
If youre walking and someone says your on a cluff edge but you continue walking, then this repeats time after time, you would also stop listening to the crazy person
God, its almost as if these Nuclear Power plants would make a difference, but pants keep getting shat cos people don't realise the normal part of the world has moved on from RBMK Reactors...
We drink with paper straws and eu is pushing extreme car emissions laws, meanwhile chinese factories dump chemicals without care and produce more co2 than rest of the world combined. World is a joke fr
Recruit should feel that his life is worthless to make self-sacrifice easier. Recruit should also feel that he can't do anything good except executing the commander's order.
The ocean will never stop absorbing excess heat the fuck he's talking about. As long as the temperature as hotter than the water it will absorb heat. Until it boils of course so I guess not never but we are very far from that.
That's still not true, the current and continuing trend is that the ocean is absorbing more and more co2 which leads to acidification which is pretty bad overall. This may slow down carbonate deposition in the long term which is how carbon gets removed from the ocean, but that's not going to be the main problem within our lifetimes.
Like I'm not trying to sugarcoat it, we fucked up pretty bad but it's just nonsense what the greentext said and like the autist I am, I Iatched onto it.
I hate you misanthropic doomers. Overly hopeful people are also annoying but you fucking doomers just love to revel in your cynism, it hurts to watch. Humanity will not destroy itself, and climate change will not destroy humanity. At this point the only thing that could really stop this ball rolling is some random asteroid strike or other cosmic event that instatly wipes us out.
The reality is, humanity will keep on keeping on in mild discomfort and ignorance. We will keep making mistakes, but we will also keep fixing them, and nothing major or truly disrupting will ever happen.
To say you live during the end times and that there's no future is a comforting thing, at the end there's no more expectation and you can just throw your hands up and say you've done all you can but you haven't, you hypocritical cunt.
Florida isn't the Southeast. It's a bunch of J-words from New York going to die in a warm client, Cuban immigrants, and Disney tourists.
No one claims them but them.
Humans have only kept *somewhat* accurate temperature records for the past ~200 years. Climate change isn’t purely due to human intervention, it’s the nature of a fucking planet. The climate changes. There’s no way to stop that. Over certain periods of time, it’ll get hotter. Over certain periods of time, it’ll get colder. That’s just how it works.
Let the trash take itself out. It will be the end (not really) of humans but the earth is going to be fine. Some new species will thrive and thank their creator
John mayor said it best"
We're going down,
And you can see it too,
We're going down,
And you know that we're doomed,
My dear,
We're slow dancing in a burning room
Climate models have been wrong as long as they’ve existed. Humans will destroy biodiversity long before rising temperatures. And temperatures will rise as the sun continues its main sequence anyway.
It feels like that because that’s exactly the case. The planets fine, it’ll be here ten thousand years from now. The only thing humans are killing is humans
Necessity breeds innovation. Or action. When the affects are right in your face obvious, it will be solved. Probably not in the most efficient way, and probably after a lot of damage has been done, but I guarantee this won’t be the end of humanity. We have carbon capture tech it’s just not cheap. Just like solar, when it’s applied a lot the price will fall. Hybrids will likely get more popular as gas prices rise, when fake meat is near identical to real meat and cheaper, it will replace it in low cost scenarios (fast food, ground beef, fried).
When there’s money to be saved or had, is when we thrive. If it becomes cheaper to run green energy/fuel, either to shortages or government legislation, we will pivot on a dime. It’s just a matter of time.
"Oh my God! Noooo, I don't want my heckin temperate and arctic regions to get more pleasant and warm! No stop, the sea level! Our coastlines will shrink slightly and some cities will get wet! The polar bears (which I've never seen and never been affected by in any way) are dying!"
Really this is my gripe too. More people on the planet right now than ever before in history and I’m still the greatest of all time in the NBA (no bitches association)
How am I supposed to tell my ancestors that the bloodline ended with me despite my best wishes
Ancestors = the people that came before him, ie parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc
Descendants = his children, their children etc etc
Once he dies and meets his ancestors, they'll all look at him in shame as he would be the last of their bloodline
Go vegan, y'all
That way, the animals that adapt quicker than us to the rapidly warming earth will take us in and make us one of them.
Source: Was vegan for a while and pretty sure I had conversation with birds at one point
I am a liberal but I still think climate change is kinda just a political terror tactic from liberals. If you take a second to think about it, nothing is stopping humans from massively scaling carbon capture technology.
no worries. the 100% fatal version of covid will take us all down first. ya know. that thing that was confirmed yet no one is literally doing anything about.
Those results are based on mice not humans and are not a mutation of the strain we saw in the Covid-19 pandemic.
Additionally high fatality rate diseases spread very poorly. They have a neglibible R0.
The idea that there is a 100% lethal virus with a spread rate as high as Covid 19 sitting in a lab in china is just tiktok nonsense.
I fucking hate pessimists. the world isn't as fucked as these morons think, because if it was we wouldn't have any reason to fight it. plus we'll make a lot more progress as soon as the boomers die out
So you'll ditch technology when the boomers die out? Sure you will. Where are you planning to store your tendies when you ditch your fridge freezer lmao
the late stages of global consumerism might be one of if not the main cause of global warming, but much of it is because of things like plastic production, fossil fuels still running 80% of the earth, and careless manufacturing practices. a lot of this can be fixed by just changing to less impactful alternatives, which while expensive will be a necessity sooner or later. along with this, carbon capture technologies are being developed to reverse what we have already put up into the atmosphere, along with projects like re-freezing arctic/antarctic waters to reflect more heat away.
everything is already more expensive, finding better solutions than centuries old tech running on increasing finite resources isn't going to be the driving force behind inflation
That is exactly what's happening, except it's not a disease that will subside.
Fly? Drive? Buy stuff off amazon? Eat meat? Don't grow your own food/eat seasonal? We're all creating the climate disaster.
Don't worry Anon, there are at least four different places in the bible, (Amos, Matthew, Revelations), that say the sun is going to stop shining, the heavens are going to fold up like paper being balled up, and the stars (angels) are going to fall to earth.
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