Scars and Make up

> Id say its like misogyny because it implies women cant make these decisions without wanting to be seen as objects for men's perusal. Ok which tumblr did you come from lol Sometimes they do it for themselves, sometimes to attract men/lesbians, sometimes to impress (or brag before) other women for competitive reasons, sometimes a combination of all those. Whoever said they "only ever do it for men" was bullsht. And "objects for men's perusal" is yet another, extra-ultra-submissive sub-form of "seeking male attention", not sure why you're singling out this particular form here. >I severely doubt most women feel the need to obtain validation from men, especially for the ones that get the pick of those out of many that fancy them. It varies but they'll often seek validation from those that they pick lol Some are so confident they don't really "seek any validation" (beyond just the basic certainty of being good looking, although yet others don't even care much about that), others are so insecure they'll seek it from everybody, so there's a range there as well. >I dont doubt that some may have an unhealthy attatchment for mens attention. But i dont see it as being the majority. Particularly the unhealthy kind might not be the majority, yes. >What women want to do with thier own bodies is due to their own initiative, not men. If anything it'd be from the social pressure from other women, or their desire for beauty. If exterior pressure from "other women" is plausible, then "pressure" from (HV) men is as well. "Initiative" has nothing to do with this, if they aren't pressured into partnership then seeking partnership *is* an autonomous initiative. Seeking the merely theoretical validation for being *potentially* viable for partnership i.e. "being attractive", well there is some general exterior pressure there cause being seen as *un*attractive carries some negative status with it.