I already quit smoking cigarettes a few years ago, but as a former smoker I can tell you it’s an addiction. It’s not easy to overcome. If you’ve never been a smoker, then good for you! But you’ll never understand what addiction is like unless you’ve been addicted yourself.
On the other side of that coin, however, lies the fact that addiction can be beaten. I quit cigarettes. If I can do it, so can the next smoker. But one has to truly want it because that addiction will put up one helluva fight. But it can be done.
Sugar. This is a way ppl that haven’t experienced real addiction but in reality they have. It’s in everything. If they had to actively seek out products wout sugar, they’d realize they were addicted too.
Not the same, I get it as an ex smoker, drinker & addict. But just one way to try to help others understand how our bodies become dependent on a substance.
Yes I have. The “smokers lungs” phots/videos are nothing more than propaganda. Usually the “smokers lung” is a pig lung that has smoke forced in (post mortem) or a coal miners lung, who also happened to smoke. You are not immune to propaganda (no one is).
Good for you. You probably changed your whole lifestyle, too, rather than simply cutting out cigs. You do you , just don’t take everything you read as face value. It’s a form of confirmation bias.
When I smoked I was was training for fitness competitions and felt fine. Nothing like a cig after an intense workout. I don’t smoke anymore due to the smell. I damn sure miss it tho.
I don’t miss it at all. It stinks, it tastes bad, interrupts my daily life, and costs a ridiculous amount of money. And for what? To satisfy that nicotine craving for what, one more half hour/hour? No thanks.
Nope! I’m actual genx. Imagine lying about being in a group you so desperately want to be a part of lol. You must have been picked on as a kid. Head over to r/zoomers, as your maturity is better suited for that group.
Typical millennial. Can’t defend yourself so you go to personal attacks. I don’t have to like you and I don’t. Stop replying if you’re so sensitive. Use the block button. You have options. Sorry you’re so caught up in yourself that you can’t see three feet in front of you. Typical millennial personality trait.
Holy shit!! Damn dawg. That’s intense. And I am from Atlanta aka home of Coke. Whatever u do don’t switch to diet, that fake sugar is worse! Try to get some water in ya, but I feel weird telling someone in our GenX sub what to do. We know at this age. 😂 choices, choices right?
Speak for yourself. As a librarian in California (not exactly haven for smokers), I got SO much crap for taking smoke breaks before I quit. Didn’t matter if I kept track of every minute, and never went over our allotted total break time - they’d still question/nag me. Not to mention, I often got complaints about the smell.
Meanwhile, I have a co-worker with IBS who spends much time in the crapper; nobody ever gives her shit for that, pun intended. As they shouldn’t, but just sayin’.
I was in the minority in that it was easy for me. But I was also motivated by wanting to attract a specific person. Nothing will make you quit something like getting laid.
I was one of the lucky minority too. Just woke up one day and didn't want to do it anymore. That lasted for about six years - until I started chasing a specific person who smoked. Nothing makes you want to start something like getting laid.
> But one has to truly want it because that addiction will put up one helluva fight. But it can be done.
I dipped in high school, then cigarettes in college. Switched back and forth between the two for years. After grad school I started vaping, hoping to ween myself off of nicotine once and for all. I got it down to a real low nicotine level. Then I got some bad news regarding my blood pressure, quick cold turkey. Fuck that was tough!
It has been 6 months and I still randomly think about it. I don't have the urge, in fact, all the vape stuff is in my garage. It's just muscle memory asking for it.
Side note: One of the little ridiculous tricks I used was to sort of yelp/yell every time I thought about reaching for the vape pen. It was way more often then I would have thought, like every 10 minutes, but the little yelp was ridiculous enough to retrain my brain that this is stupid.
>One of the little ridiculous tricks I used was to sort of yelp/yell every time I thought about reaching for the vape pen.
Was this something you held yourself to even in public? Bc I can sure see that having real potential to spur someone to get serious about quitting in a hurry😄
My wife and kids were out of town for 2 days when I quit. Just happened to line up, it wasn't planned. As I said, I quit in response to a high blood pressure issue.
So I did do it out loud, but in my own house or in my car. It only takes like 3 days to kick the physical addiction, the mental one is rough.
Its been 9 years now nicotine free and still sometimes when I sit down at my computer (work in front of one all day, everyday) I reach for the can of chew that used to be to my right. Its bonkers how much it sticks with you but thankfully everyday without makes it easier to not go back.
I still even have dreams from time to time that I had a dip or a smoke and I will wake up feeling guilty until I realize it was just a dream!!
TLDR; FUCK NICOTINE!!
Tell me if these two things sound familiar to you.
a) That little voice
b) The hand around your heart that squeezes when you want nicotine.
Put them together and......
I quit cold turkey. I tried gum and vaping, and those do help. But I found the best approach to quitting is just quitting. It’s hard. But it’s doable. When I decided to just quit I took it one day at a time. I know that sounds cliched but it’s true.
Yes, absolutely! In my early days of smoking I really liked cigarettes. I mean I loved every thing about it. The smell, the taste, the hand gestures; everything. Years later I’d go on to discover that just wasn’t true anymore. It stunk, it tasted horrible, and was a constant interruption to my daily life. But I still smoked. I smoked for many more years after that until one day I just woke up and decided I just didn’t want to smoke anymore. I still had the addiction. The first few weeks of quitting were a living hell! But I had lost all desire to smoke another cigarette. I haven’t had one in over three years. And for that I am truly grateful.
Quitting was definitely one of the most difficult things I ever did. A friend of mine helped me, to keep me accountable and to talk during times that I wanted to restart. 20 years later, I’m so grateful and indebted to that friend.
I quit cold turkey 19 years ago. Myself and two friends quit the same day. I was the only one who was able to stay off the things. One smokes regularly still and the other vapes (worse, in my opinion). I don’t approve of smoking or vaping but it doesn’t affect me so why judge??
Why not judge people who drink alcohol? That garbage makes you think you’re sober enough to drive and then hurt or kill other people. It has a much greater potential to cause public and private harm to other people. Cigarettes not so much. So yeah, let’s judge smokers who only hurt themselves. Or “hey for those who still do crack, whyyyyy?” People do all kinds of bad things to themselves so where’s the rest of your list of complaints about what other people do?? Do you have a post about eating junk food? Over eating? Or not going to the doctor when you should? Or driving too fast on a crowded highway? Or participate in street take over? Or bungee jumping… or anything else that’s bad for you and dangerous? Why hone in on… oh wait because for some reason it bothers you personally. Do you live somewhere that allows public smoking? Go to your city council and complain there. I think most states in the US have banned public smoking so why do you care? Do you judge everyone with addictions?? Judgy McJudgerson
Why does judgment bother you so much? If you're such a badass, just ignore what is writtien about smokers and go on. However, I feel it's because you know you behavior is wrong and you feel helpless to do anything about it. Why not bow up and take control of yourself? You can do amazing things if you try. Look at yourself, you quit a crippling addiction, why don't we expect the same of others? Do you think they aren't as strong as you?
CJ is that you?? 😂 😂 😂 I don’t think I’m a badass. But I’m not a judgmental asshole either. Why? Because I’ve been through things that keep me humble and nonjudgmental and fully aware that other people are going through things I don’t know about. I love how you’re mad over someone calling you out for being judgey and trying to flip it. You sound exactly like my exe 😆 Like that makes you look any better when you try and flip that script. 😂. Read the thread dude, I’m not alone in thinking you’re judgmental. I do not expect anything from anyone because they have their own struggles and it’s none of my business. Just like it’s none of yours. Why the hell do you have expectations of strangers as though you’re some authority figure?? What the hell makes you so much more superior than them that you think you’re in right for judging them?? That’s living in delusion land. I’m no stronger than anyone else out there who’s going through life in their own way. And neither are you. You are no better than those you judge. Matter of fact, I think they are far better than you. We all are in suddenly places in this life, everyone has something they choose to do/use in order to cope. Food, drugs, sugar, video games, driving fast, sex, God, Social media, … everyone has something that helps them through the day. You included buddy. Stop thinking you’re a freaking Saint. You’re not. Far from it.
Expectations? My biggest lesson from life is that expectations will only get you hurt and disappointed. So why bother expecting anything of anyone? You, however, have lived up to exactly what I suspected you are.
Question. How do you call someone “such a badass” and “helpless" at the same time? Talent!! That’s how! 😆
Your ego is sickeningly large. Musk would have trouble topping that level of arrogance.
There is no anger at all in my posts, none. I only expect more of people than to harm themselves and other with their habits. We have actually decades of research telling us of the harm cigarettes do to us and others. We have horror stories of emphysema and cancer. We have 8 dollars a pack cigarettes, yet people still hide behind "addiction" and refuse to quit, why? Because they like it, it feels good. It is quite maddening. And, while angry trolls say, "mind your own business," the smoke and stench are my business. What's the saying, your freedoms end where my nose begins or some such? Why not be conscientious that others live in the world for a second and think maybe someone doesn't want to be nauseated when they encounter you because you smell so bad? You act as if your and others' action have effect only on the actor and no one else. That isn't how it works, especially when you are spewing dangerous chemicals into the world. How one can be so ignorant and uncharitable to others is beyond my pale. So yeah, maybe it's harsh to hear that your habits are appalling, but your habit, in the case of cigarette smoking, most certainly doesn't harm only you. As someone who grew up with the threat of discipline and rebelled against it in every way, I know where I was wrong, smokers need to learn the same lesson, they are wrong to smoke and while they actually know it, they are loathe to do anything about it. You can get mad and name-call all you like, I will never, ever believe that smoking is anything but a foolish blight.
By the way, for me it was not a crippling addiction. And I am 100% aware that I am among the very lucky few who can cold turkey quit. That is Not a bragging point! I was exceptionally lucky. Not strong! Lucky!! I feel awful for those who are addicted to anything. You want to know why I don’t hide? I lost 2 brothers to drug addictions. 2!!! I know full well that my experience isn’t like other people’s so I support them and do not judge them. I was not strong. I was lucky.
It took moving from a place where nearly everybody smoked (Chicago) to a place where hardly anybody smoked (Boulder, Colorado) helped - there was no social aspect to support the mental addiction, and it was my first experience with "no smoking" housing and school campuses. So, inconvenience helped.
When I did finally have enough, it was because I was tired of the hassle, and I managed to go 2 weeks... I tried to smoke one of my "emergency" cigarettes, and it was so foul. But the last straw was smelling someone who had just been smoking - I asked my 10 year old if I had smelled like that, and she said I had.
I dreamt about it for a long time - the ritual of it - but that was it.
PRO TIP: Bic flair pens - the ones with the white cross on the end of the cap - have ideal airflow when capped to scratch the itch... because it really isn't the nicotine. It's the HABIT - it becomes part of your entire life and personality.
Your experience may be more severe than most, but I also didn't say nicotine isn't addictive. Of course it's addictive, but the physical addiction isn't the long term issue for most people - it's the mental addiction (the habit). Sorry if that wasn't as clear as it could be.
To clarify, nicotine takes around 4-6 weeks to get totally out of the body - after that, the battle is with the habit (though as with other addictions, if you go back to it, your addiction will be retriggered and you have to start again).
😂 I didn’t struggle. Nice assumption. I wasn’t addicted. I am one of those lucky people who could quit cold turkey and not look back. I was extremely lucky. My friends, not so much. And you did say nicotine wasn’t the problem. You claimed it was just the behavioral aspect. I’m all done with people today. Have a good one.
I worked with patients that did that! All I could think is that one day there was going to be a big boom and that was gonna be it for us. But what made me crazy was that I couldn’t smoke at work so I had to sit there and smell their smoke while waiting for the boom… not good. Not. Good. 😂 I didn’t want to get blown up by someone else’s cig when I couldn’t have one myself 😂 freaking irrational 20 year old 😂
I’m trying to kick the sugar thing. I quit cigarettes cold turkey and convert myself incredibly lucky for that. But this sugar thing? Hardest thing I’ve ever tried to quit.
I started smoking a few months ago. The sooner this is over the better. But actually ending my life will result in "complex grief". Apparently, cancer is more acceptable because our society is insane.
As an Australian, I don't know how anyone affords to smoke here.
A pack of 25 Winfield blues is $45.
Even if you only smoke 10 a day, that's at least $135 per week!!!
And most of the smokers I have known were a pack a day.
None of us is perfect, and life is not fully in anyone's control.
I do not smoke or drink. I've never even smoked pot. Why? Because I'm lucky enough to not enjoy smoking or drinking, both of which I tried in my youth. And the thing I most dislike about drinking is the way it makes me feel, so pot never interested me. You know what this makes me? Lucky.
I am overweight. I have been my entire life. Why? I'm sure it's a combination of complicated factors. I've whittled myself down numerous times and even managed to maintain a healthy weight for three years. but it's not sustainable for me. I eat healthy food and I exercise and my blood work and etc. are all good. I (try to!) accept that my fluffiness has its own inherent risks, but also that I'm going to need to live with it and do the best I can. You know what this makes me? Lucky. Because it's helped me develop empathy.
> I am overweight. I have been my entire life. Why? I'm sure it's a combination of complicated factors.
Uh, no. Burn more calories than you consume and you lose weight. You’re addicted to food and in denial.
I am not in any sort if denial. I am comparing my situation to a smoker who is addicted to cigarettes. Why do I take in too many calories for my metabolism? The answer to that is the complicated part, with addiction being one facet.
Have a good day.
Drugs affect people differently. For me, alcohol is relaxing with a bit of energy. Cannabis makes me feel loopy and out of control. I could drive a vehicle just fine while drunk, but there's no way I would drive while I was high.
That's good, but with respect and caring, even once is too much. I know you know this, but you could really hurt yourself (or worse) or hurt somebody else (or worse). Whatever it is, it can wait.
There’s this thing called Uber… or taxis… or the bus… or your own damned feet.
Hell, just sleep where you are if you’re too drunk for any of that. You never HAVE to drive home drunk, so stop making excuses. Sheesh. I’m no angel, believe me, but at least I can admit when I’ve done something dumb.
I almost never do it anymore but admit that I did it back in my 20s and 30s. I'm not an advocate for it but I also feel some people don't have an issue doing it.
“Almost never do it anymore.”
Can you please tell us what city you live in, so we can be sure to avoid driving there? Please stop this before you kill someone… I promise you do NOT drive “fine” when drunk. Nobody does, just as nobody can safely text while driving. STOP.
I have no idea! Because I don't like to be in an altered state, I was never interested in finding out. People have described what it's like to me, and it sounds different, but it's just not for me.
I wish these posts got more upvotes. You see genuine sympathy for a smoker that has trouble quitting but talking about being overweight turns into comment after comment of people saying hateful things.
I know people that have quit drugs and alcohol. There were killing themselves. 2 were told something like, if you keep drinking you'll be dead in 6 months. And it took an unfathomable amount of will power for them to quit.
I'm proud of them. And I let them know. They still struggle with weight.
Everyone has different challenges. I wish people would see that food or weight is no different than other addictions. You feel down, eat something bad for you because the sugar, fat, whatever tickles your pleasure brain bits. And you focus on eating and feel less depressed when you run out of food. Now I feel bad I ate and feel bad from before.
But brain isn't getting it for some reason. Still thinks food helps.
Anyhow, hopefully there comes a day when we can support folks instead of insult.
I don't smoke pot, but I do eat edibles at night to help me sleep. You can get some that really don't make you feel weird or high.
I'm not trying to tell you to eat edibles or anything, just relating my own personal experience. I will say that the pandemic + edibles caused me to quit drinking entirely. It wasn't even a conscious choice. I just no longer felt the need to self medicate in that way. A lot of stress was alleviated for me. I have social anxiety and no longer having to interact with people meant I didn't need the alcohol as a crutch. This is why I'm such an advocate for working from home. There are a lot of people in situations with disabilities, both visible and invisible where WFH was a godsend, and I'm resentful that people want to take away that peace of mind from me and others.
It makes me so angry, but I'm digressing big time.
Anyway, edibles help me sleep and I no longer have hangovers. It's great.
Everybody is different. However, I quit smoking cigarettes, drinking, and benzos, and they were all relatively easy, but the food thing has me over a barrel. I think the reason I was able to easily quit these other things is because I did it cold turkey. I think if I tried to just whittle down these addictions, I would not have been successful. This is why I can't seem to tame my food addiction. I can't stop eating cold turkey.
Anyway, hang in there, we all have our problems and addictions, and I'm old enough to where I'm not gonna let other people look down on me for it, and I'm not going to look down on anyone who is overweight, or smoking, or drinking. We all have our demons and I'd rather us all just be kind to each other.
People who still think they can tell people how to act and what they can do. You are literally the reason people vote for Trump, it is to spite overbearing self righteous pricks like yourself. Just an FYI I hate Trump and would not vote for him but if it would piss off assholes like you, hearing you cry for 4 years would be worth it.
I’ve seen several people do that. Every one of them said quitting smoking was harder than the alcohol.
I quit smoking 19 years ago cold turkey. I know I was very lucky because I didn’t go through the cravings and stuff others go through. Very very lucky. Congratulations on both of your successes!!
Yup. I have a parent who has been through some shit because of smoking. And they still continue to smoke.
They’ll quit when they get to a point that they physically can’t do it. It’s fucked up, but I’ve come to terms with it.
I gave up after begging them to stop since I was a little kid.
Yup. My dad had a heart attack in the early 2000s and his doctor told him that he is now a nonsmoker. But dad had been smoking since he was 15 and just couldn't or wouldn't quit. He definitely smoked a lot less, but never stopped.
And then he got COPD and lung cancer and died in 2015. It was messed up.
My mother has advanced heart disease and COPD and she still smokes. Her kids and grandkids have asked her to stop so we don't lose her early, she's not interested.
> That's how my dad died, as well. Smoked since he was nine.
I started picking up my mom's butts from the ashtray while she was at work and puffing away at a very young age - I am going to say around 11. Then at 12 I smoked my first Marlboro Light and continued sneaking butts and bumming smokes from friends but never gave all the way in. Until.. I was around 15 then I started going full tilt on the Camel Lights (damn you Joe Camel!!)
Eventually I finally quit in my mid 30's using the nicotine gum mainly.
Thank you. We knew it wouldn't be easy or quick. He'd moved to Florida about 20 years before and us kids couldn't be with him as often as we'd have liked, but he had a long-time girlfriend who helped him way more than we could, and I'm grateful to her for that.
My dad was stubborn about quitting too, finally got lung cancer that rapidly spread to his brain. Just grateful that he was fairly old and lived a full and mostly pain-free life.
In certain situations I’ve seen as a nurse, sometimes they continue smoking because it’s muscle memory and they’re so cognitively impaired, it’s the only thing they remember, not their kids, spouse, friends, etc.
Just want to note, my mom was a nurse and I don’t think I’ve seen a profession so dedicated to health also be one of the most addicted to smoking. They were chimneys back in the 80s/90s
Are you kidding me, that's nothing...
The doctor smoked during my delivery in Florida in '77!
There were ashtrays next to my mother's bedside - She was able to smoke the moment she woke up from her "ordeal" (my arrival).
This wasn't a backwoods, bumpkin hospital or anything either. It was in Hollywood. 🤦♀️
I remember walking through a hospital in China in 2004 and people were smoking everywhere, including doctors. There was even a cigarette booth *inside* the hospital. I've rarely experienced that level of cognitive dissonance lol. Thankfully that's totally banned in China as well these days.
2004??? That's wild! Then again, I often refer to the mid-2000s as if it were 5 years ago or so.🤭
I remember one weekend, back in Junior high school (12-13 yrs old) we had a chorus concert at a school school a couple of towns over. This is a combination junior high/high school, mind you.
As you can imagine, it was an unfamiliar place. So, during a break, I was wandering around the halls of the school, looking for the bathroom, with a friend.
I shit you NOT - lined up and down the hallways, in front of every single classroom door, was one of those tall stand-up ashtrays like you see outside of businesses.
Essentially, both the faculty and students (provided they were 18) were allowed to smoke up and down the hallways of this high school in 1989-1990. Seeing that, at the time, completely blew me away.
I also remember smoking on airplanes and in movie theaters. My parents were loving life back then...
Once everything went non-smoking, they started staying home a lot more often. Haha.
My nephew was born 28 years ago, and the Ob who delivered him was one of these old docs that have been there forever. Once he had done his part in the delivery suite, he came out, grinning like a mule eating briars, and gave us the news, then lit up a cigar right there in the hallway, no smoking signs be damned.
Gotta admit, I liked his style.
Boy is that the truth! I remember reading early Patricia Cornwall books, and she made a point of having her character, Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Kay Scarpetta smoke and ruefully admit the irony considering they know and see what the end result is. I believe she finally quits, later in the series. Funnily enough, I think I quit for good around the same time.
Oh totally agree. It’s a “do as we say, not as we do” situation. The nurses who are nearing retirement, always tell me about smoking and charting at the nursing desk. Or the cardiac surgeon who did lines of coke before a long surgery. 😏
That was my grandpa. Alzheimer's took his memory but he keep doing this strange movement with his hands that nobody could figure out what it was. My dad and I went out for a smoke and I say my dad packing his pipe and it was the same motions. Grandpa also smoked a pipe. So after completely looaing his mind his body was still trying to pack his pipe.
I was in the hospital for pneumonia and snuck (it was very obvious dragging my iv outside in a gown) to smoke. I quit a year later, but am still mortified thinking back about how important it was to smoke when I was hospitalized w pneumonia. Addiction is gross and real. I have fought every form of it. Smoking is the worst.
My Grandpa smoked from 14 yrs old til he died of bladder cancer (attributed to smoking). He would leave the hospital bed where he was on oxygen, beg a nurse or orderly to help him, and he would go outside to smoke. He was dying and still smoking. It's scary.
I'm sorry about your grandpa. I actually feel the worst for our terminal patients who quit or try to quit after their diagnosis. You're not going to get sicker, so enjoy it if you'd like, as long as you remove your oxygen first.
When you start young, your decision-making isn't developed and the dependency takes hold before you're really rational.
My brother struggled for years to stop smoking and waited too late; he died of throat cancer a few years after he'd quit. (He also put off seeing a doctor for months, despite his wife's begging him to go. Guys, please don't do that to your partners.)
Tobacco addiction is brutal.
At the hospitals I’ve worked at, we can’t stop patients who go outside to smoke, but no way would I want to stand outside in a hospital gown in minus 30 Celsius, for a cancer stick. But then again, I remember what I wore to the bar, in my 20’s, in minus 30. 🤣
But now those trying to stay safe while using H have a room to do so.
But we can't smoke in bars. Can't buy flavored tobacco products. But go to a liquor store. Lots of flavors geared to 21 y/o and younger. Hello Kitty Bottles. I don't understand the rationle.
Lol. Not in my home province. 🤣
Couldn’t smoke in church, restaurants, or hospitals since about 1989. I wasn’t in the bars at 14, but I was in the lounge or at the bowling alley with my grandma, getting a lungful of that delicious Menthol second hand smoke. 🤣
I had a resident put in orders that it was okay for nursing to take a pt out to smoke. First, this is oncology, so we politely decline. Second, nursing doesn't have time for this, Doc, so YOU take him outside if it's so important to you. The attending nipped this in the bud real quick. 😂
Nicotine replacement gum and lozenges are available to anyone who walks in the door - visitor, staff, guy just passing by - plus counseling for patients and staff.
I love your ending! So true. The shit we did in our 20s! Ya, I can just see myself lying to any staff member talking to me about where I am going. lol 😂 I was such a POS back then. I was hospitalized for pneumonia about 6 weeks after going to rehab (booze, opiates). I am sure that’s how I got sick. We were allowed to smoke as much as we wanted at this place. It was unlike any other rehab. Every place here has 4-6 smoke breaks (cigs) a day. In FL I was blowing through 2 packs a day. SMH 🤦🏼♀️
That's really really sad. Random sample of 1 person only -- my grandmother had almost the opposite experience. She had Alzheimer's and had been a smoker for 60 years, but she quit cold turkey one day after her doctor told her she had emphysema. Forgot she smoked.
I had that patient! Her grandkids were getting ready to take her out for a cigarette, and she said, “I don’t smoke!” Done. Quit on the spot. I was gobsmacked.
You're a better person than I am! I never came to terms with the fact that my dad couldn't quit. He quit all the other drugs he quit alcohol but he never could quit cigarettes. I understand part of it is because the cigarette manufacturing companies actually make them more addictive by all the additives that are in them they are specifically designed to be addictive even to a non addict brain. But I'm still infuriated that he smoked up until he died
I knew a woman who was hardcore addicted. To the point that it brought her to tears that her multiple efforts at quitting failed.
She tried everything. Cold turkey, the gum, tapering, aversion therapy, hypnosis, acupuncture, everything.
She was at a point that she was sure the only way she was going to be able to quit was when it finally killed her.
I lost touch with her, but I shudder to think of what happened to her.
A friend of mine was a big smoker. Our campus banned smoking on the grounds, so she would go sit in her car and smoke. She died of brain cancer. I really liked her and wish she was still around.
Yeah, I gave up on trying to get my mother to quit. Came to the realization she was never ever going to quit and all it was doing was ruining our relationship. Unfortunately it’s had the side effect that she now thinks it’s cool to light up in front of me. She’ll walk away after lighting up but I still get that first stink bomb cloud in my face. She really has no idea how bad that sh** stinks.
I dated a girl whose grandmother pulled an oxygen tank around with her. She still smoked. Her family had the idea that granny only enjoyed smoking and drinking. So, no one would say anything to her.
Yep a former heroin addict I knew back in the 90s said the same thing. Plus the fact that you can’t walk into a 7-11 and buy some smack, but you can buy boxes of cigs. The 2nd toughest thing for him to quit was alcohol—another widely advertised,easily available & socially acceptable consumable.
You can go about your day while smoking a cigarette and to a lesser degree you can do the same with alcohol. So it's readily available, but it doesn't impact your day to day life like heroin.
Valid point...what if we swapped heroin out for a Schedule II pill habit?
(Of course, then it's the *cost* that'd be devouring everything else in your life before you know it)
That's because a tobacco addiction doesn't hold a candle to the drama that they need, in order for those shows to be successful.
Someone having a "Nic fit" doesn't generate the same level of ratings as somebody having PCP induced, murderous rage fit.
I just quit cold turkey, it was worse than when I quit hard drugs. Problem is I’ll probably start again. I like smoking so does my family and we just quit when we pass it seems.
I had a classmate back in the 90s that told me that exact same thing. I thought she was full of shit because I’d never heard it anywhere else, but it seems I was wrong
I found it to be the total opposite. I smoked in my teens and 20s and then quit for about...15 years. The wife and I picked it up when we would chill outside in the evenings and it just became something to do at night. Have a few and then call it a night. So technically you can say "well then you didn't quit" but whatever.
Sure there was creep into other times, and it turned into a less social thing and just something I did slightly more often.
But then we decided to quit and just.. quit. No fits, withdraws, nothing. The only time I really miss it is after sex, as cliche as that sounds.
So I find quitting smoking to be a cakewalk. I cant fathom people that say its harder than something like heroin.
Yeah. I loved smoking so much that I would have continued smoking forever…but alas. I was diagnosed with breast cancer and had to do eight rounds of dose-dense chemo. I forced myself to read scientific studies about the dangers of smoking during chemo. Basically a death sentence. Yet I still smoked a few cigarettes after my first infusion. But I got super sick…too sick to smoke. I got hit with chemo sickness, nicotine withdrawal and forced menopause all together at the same time. It was awful but I got thru it. Every time I miss smoking I force myself to remember those awful days. And I am able to hold off. Damn.
Ugh I was leaving the grocery store today and in the car next to me was an old man with his windows down smoking a cigarette. I opened the door and quickly got in because the smell of it makes me want to throw up. Even for those brief seconds, the smell followed me into my car. That shit is potent. 🤢🤢
I would see my 4 year old cough that jolted me to quit. we smoked out side but even the smell on are cloths would get to him when we quit his lungs got better i could not stand killing him slowly that was 17 years ago he is 21 now and breaths great
Quit crying guys. They’re tobacco. The vast majority of people throughout human history of tobacco use don’t “fit” in your hyperbolic hysterical addiction loathe hole.
Quitting is extremely hard.
I had an easier time dropping 168lbs in 18 months than I did quitting smoking. It took many false starts, but I finally went cold turkey from being a 2+pack/day chimney; did it without gum, patches, vapes or anything but a giant bottle of Ibuprofen for the migranes. That was ~2007 (long enough ago that I couldn't tell you what year it was!)
No lie. I’m only a yearish done with cigarettes but I am hungry ALL THE TIME now. I’ve put on probably 15 lbs so far and haven’t gotten ahold of that part of it yet.
Average age a lifelong smoker has their first cigarette: 14
The younger you start, the harder your brain gets hooked, cause it's still developing. And tobacco companies know this. And they target kids anyway.
I definitely went through withdrawal. But I quit cold turkey, and yes I had more energy, started breathing better, and my senses of smell and taste came back stronger. It was definitely worth the first few weeks of pure hell I went through to get to where I am today.
I keep a pack in a drawer for special occasions - like when I'm up late with buddies on a weekend listening to music. I like cigarettes. I'm not addicted and never have been. My wife and I both quit when we started trying for children - which was 20 years ago. Now I smoke maybe 1 pack per year in total (if that) on special occasions, or just when the spirit strikes me. It's enjoyable. I agree that addiction is a problem, but reducing all the reasons why billions of people around the world smoke to a single issue - addiction - is drastically simplistic.
I get that for a never-smoker it seems ridiculous - they're smelly awful death sticks, why would anyone do that to themselves? I'm not encouraging anyone to pick up the habit - surely you are better off without it. But for a former smoker, you don't need an addiction to enjoy an occasional stroll down memory lane.
Cigarettes are relaxing and enjoyable, although stinky. Why do you do the unhealthy things to yourself? Caffeine, refined sugar, processed food, alcohol, drugs, binge watching. People are free to experience life as they wish. You should learn to understand that.
Also, there’s not really concrete proof that cigarettes are bad for you. There is evidence but it is not good evidence. My conspiracy theory is that it’s the petroleum products that are the worst carcinogens, but they used cigarettes as a scapegoat since we rely heavily on petroleum products as a society. Also, tobacco was a huge money maker for the south and that made the union very mad. Vilifying cigarettes was a win-win for them
I quit 6 years ago after 30 years of smoking. And i still miss it. I enjoyed the relaxing feeling it gave me, when i woke up, grab coffee and a cigarette and watch the sun rise, it gave me a sense of peace that ive never felt since. If youve never smoked, you cannot ever understand how it becomes part of you, your identity. Ive felt incomplete ever since quitting, but I have no choice i guess.
This is sort of how I explain it to non-smokers. Smoking makes whatever you're doing twice as enjoyable MINIMUM. Coffee break is now even better with a cigarette, mundane tasks like driving are now tolerable with a cigarette, listening to your favourite music is now even more amazing with a cigarette. And when you don't have one, it just feels wrong. I'm currently quitting for my girlfriend and I have days where I don't even smoke and the days I usually do I only have one, but ah man it just feels good to smoke.
I still remember when I quit, at work when break time would come up I'd look at the non-smokers and say what do you actually do on your break, I had absolutely no idea what to do so I just kind of walked around staring at things
Yeah I think thats why so many quitters put on weight. 'What should I do now? I'll have a muffin, that'll occupy me'.
I sat alone during my break looking a beautiful scenery and I'd put music on and have a cigarette and it was so relaxing. Now it's like hearing background noise.
Yep. I tried recently and immediately regretted it. (Been having a rough 6 weeks & finally gave in after 4 years. Don’t worry only smoked 2 & that was weeks ago). So gross! 🤢
I quit cigarettes ages ago, then got addicted to cigars--was inhaling Capones. I quit those a decade ago, and still have dreams about smoking. Much respect to those still struggling, but it's daily. It gets easier, but never enough to let your guard down.
It helps me to remember why I quit in the first place. If I didn't have a non-smoker wife and at least 1 kid I have to stay alive to keep from f-ing up his life it might be a lot harder.
Also, all that extra money they claim you'll have by not spending it on smokes? Where's that?
I quit almost 4 years ago (one week before the “lockdown” here, by coincidence); and while I haven’t been tempted to actually smoke again, I still dream about smoking occasionally. Then I wake up feeling mad at myself! 😂
Ha! I woke up from a dream the other night in which I bought a pack of smokes but then didn't smoke one because I didn't want to get hooked again. Dreaming... Crazy.
I talked to an auntie who doesn't smoke but her husband does. She had the smell of second hand smoke on her, it immediately cured me right there. After a while you forget how bad that smell is. But I don't want to do that to my gf who doesn't smoke either.
But I still feel like I want to sometimes...
That's the whole thing. Give in to it once and you have to go through that whole quitting hell again. But indeed, every now and then it hits you. Good for me I am very good at not doing things.
I quit for 4 years, never had any want to smoke again. Bummed a smoke from a coworker just for fun and have been a pack a day since. That was over 6 years ago. For me it's the hand to mouth more than the nicotine. I can vape zero nicotine and not have any nicotine cravings but if I run out of juice or other supplies I fall back to the cigarettes. They taste like shit and make me feel even worse but I still do it. It's horrible. I have drilled into my kids that they can't do anything that will make me more disappointed in them than start smoking.
I bought my first pack in almost 4 years of quitting. Smoked 1 got a buzz but regretted it. Next day I lit 1, puked an hour later and was sick the next day. I tried lighting a 3rd on day 3 & was so disgusted I threw it out. Still have the pack, but haven’t touched it. Ugh gross
Because they either want to smoke or can't stop?
Growing up my grandfather had asthma from smoking. I watched the man suffer and eventually die. It kept me from ever wanting to try a cigarette. That said, I would never tell someone what to do with their life.
I might try and get a close friend to stop smoking, but that's not the same as a random Joe sparking up his Marlboros.
Smokers are instant friends. At an airport or business convention… the guys hanging out in the smoking section always sharing a lighter or pack are constantly just chatting about their trip, day, life. It somehow unifies a group of people.
I smoked as an older teen, quit, then some really bad shit happened in my marriage and I bought a pack. It had been 23 years without one and that first light was magical. But, instant addiction. I stopped with a patch two weeks later but.. when life was hard again I wanted nicotine and started vaping. Still vaping. I like it a lot.
But, this year is a milestone birthday and I am prepping for a marathon run in November. I plan to be in the best shape of my life this year. I’m going to quit vaping. I have lost 35 pounds getting training days in already. As soon as spring hits I’ll start distance running. Then I’ll hopefully feel the significance of healthy lungs.
Wish me luck! 🍀
There are some products out there that are flavor inhalers - except you just suck on them for the flavor like a cigarette and don't really inhale anything. If your oral fixation habit is hard to break, at least those scratch that itch without any lung problems (don't inhale, obviously, but you wouldn't inhale a lollipop either)
>the guys hanging out in the smoking section always sharing a lighter or pack are constantly just chatting about their trip, day, life
I'm jealous of this part of being a guy. Being the only female and just wanting to fit in but the guys always make it weird because they are assessing if you are a f or not, and if not, why you are "bothering" them... like chill the f out dudes I'm just looking to not stand alone same as you
Note taken… I am sorry that’s been your experience. I totally understand and appreciate you enlightening me. Hopefully this generalization doesn’t apply to all, I know it wouldn’t with my perspective and background but I can see how this could be a massive problem.
Not really relevant any more and no it wasn't all guys but it was enough that it is problematic for all women :)
Speaking of this sort of thing, I was talking in another area about not being able to eat a banana like a normal person as lunch in the 90's because there was this one asshat who would come over and make loud WOOOOOOO sounds when I was just trying to eat my fucking lunch. And of course the school wouldn't do anything and if I'd trued to do anything I would have been "leading him on" and if he decided to go farther it would have been "my fault" or even a "date rape" (because you only had to know who a guy was for it to be defined as a date rape, you didn't have to be on a date. And not surprisingly the guy was at the college training to be a cop. Dangerous motherfucker that guy was.
I always wanted to live outside gender, I hated having it inflicted on me. Unfortunately I couldn't pass as androgynous lol :D
Funny you mention androgynous...
Where I can't pass for androgynous, either - well, aesthetically speaking, anyway, I've been taking a lot of personality tests. And, many of my scores are coming back androgynous.
They said, "based on your results we cannot detect your gender." It's awfully bizarre. Because I didn't think that I was answering the questions with a 50% male/50% female perspective. Yet, The test scorers did!
This is not just one test either, mind you. This is numerous tests, taken over several months. It's become something of a running joke between my SO and I.
The only test that scored differently was the cats and dogs test.
You know, the goofy, just for fun one you take to determine whether you're more of a dog or cat person. It says that I'm a female dog person which, is correct. But, seriously? Haha.
This is why I started smoking @ 25… to get away from ppl & leave the room. Also sitting in traffic for an hour w coffee & adderal. But ya I am going w your answer
I miss the ability to just leave my post at work to go smoke. Boss' would never question smokers who just wandered away for 20 minutes, but non-smokers caught hell if they took a pee break longer than 5 minutes.
I started smoking at about age 25. Only because I was working at a marketing firm and kept watching the smokers take breaks while I was busting my ass. I wanted that get away too.
Did this for awhile too. Only smoked at work so I could get breaks. Eventually I didn’t even smoke. Just went out with them. It was insane how much time they could get away. It was the only way
I just read something about this! The gist of the article was that people are still taking lengthy smoke breaks and the nonsmokers felt jilted. So, offices have been offering nonsmokers other types of breaks. (Maybe I read this on Reddit...I can't remember.)
My old office job did this. There was a "required" break twice a day. The smokers would smoke & the non-smokers would play ping-pong, cornhole or some other dumbass game.
In my state at least, two 15-min breaks per shift are in fact mandatory, by law--managers will actually get sore at you sometimes if you neglect to book yours on that day's break schedule sheet or whatever.
Where I live there is mandatory 15 minute breaks (2) and lunch but if you work in the restaurant business you’re not getting any of those breaks. You sneak out for 5 minutes when you finally get the chance but non smokers would do it too.
Did the same thing at 26. You should have heard my doctors, all the "responsible adults* in my life, really, saying what an idiot I was and why would you start at this age when you know better?
Idk, the heart wants what the heart wants! Haha.
I gave up over 10 years ago, but I still go outside to stand with the smokers to socialise and meet new people at gigs or bars. never been tempted to start again, I just think how much money I’m saving.
I'll never smoke again, but if somehow we were able to cure cancer and COPD with a simple pill or something, I'd smoke a pack a day for eternity. I loved smoking. Nicotine made ADHD / anxious brain feel calm and make dopamine.
I probably would too. I loved it. I think one of the underrated parts of smoking is that it's great if you're bored. Smoke a cigarette and then you feel like you're doing something.
I think people saying absurd things like "it's harder to quit than heroin" are not helping, though. The hardest part of quitting is psychological and I think comments like that and media portrayal make it seem like this insurmountable thing. It isn't. The physical withdrawals are quite mild, more a nagging irritation than anything else. If you can get through 3 days most of the nicotine has left your system, 3 weeks and it's all gone.
I wouldn't say it was easy. I just don't want people to think quitting smoking is like Renton getting clean in *Trainspotting*. If they're scared to try, it's easy enough to say "Well, I'm just never going to be able to quit."
My advice to anyone that seriously wants to quit: please check out Allen Carr's book *The Easy Way to Quit Smoking*. It may actually be a subtle form of brainwashing but it absolutely worked for me. You don't get far into it before recognizing that the author was clearly a heavy smoker. He knew all the rationalizations and self-bargaining that goes in the smoker's mind.
You fucking nailed it. 😂 I’m with LeatherDude.
I will amend slightly though. I think if I make it to like 75, I’d be seriously tempted to say fuggit and light one up.
I'm not adhd, but I feel exactly this. I smoked from 15-56 and I've been smoke free since Jan 1, 2023. I still miss it, (albeit not as badly as the first 6 months) and I'd go back if not for those pesky heath issues. I got out so my end years won't be completely miserable. The money saving is nice, too, though.
Oh, I will. I quit cigarettes 15 years ago and I fully intend to take them up again when I turn 80. I figure at that point, something is gonna get me at that point, why not?
Omg same. Especially if I was engaged in some activity where concentration was key. Driving and playing video games, I'd light one smoke off of the butt of the last one for hours on end.
Working in tech, I'd step outside for frequent smoke breaks, especially with co-workers who smoked.
I did a pack a day on normal days, 1.5 - 2 if I was going out to the bar or a party. Ah, misspent youth.
This is exactly why I chain-chew nicotine gum! It’s pretty miraculous for ADHD/anxiety. My doctor is ok with it as long as my ticker is strong.
I still miss actual cigarettes - even though they are not a good combo with asthma! Won’t ever touch them again though.
I started smoking when I was 15 in '89 and kept it up until I was 37. I managed to put down cigarettes using lozenges but was addicted to those for 9 more years. I managed to put those down and have been nicotine free for 2.5 years. It has been a tough road but I did it.
I smoked 25 years (15-40). If it wasn't so damn expensive, and if my lung function wasn't noticeably worse before I quit, I'd still do it no question. Nicotine is a wonderful feeling
I miss that “first drag” feeling from a cigarette sometimes. But yeah, not sure why people still smoke. There are so many other vices to choose from that don’t smell so bad.
I actually liked the smell. I grew up in a very poor non-smoking home so cigarette smell smelled "fancy" to me when I was young and I guess it went from there :D
That’s interesting. I always thought a tobacco pipe was fancy and therefore that smell was “fancy” to me when I was younger. I still like a pipe tobacco smell but not a fan of cigarette smoke smell.
I had a pipe smoking friend and I liked the smell at first but he chain smoked the pipe so much it started to set off my migraines. Also I moved from Canada to Australia after I'd quit and the cigarettes here sell oilier and tarrier even than US cigarettes and I don't like the smell at all. They still make me slightly crave them but I think you have to be a zillionaire to afford to smoke here lol
Government disinformation RE: vaping certainly hasn't helped. Based on my own anecdotal night life experience, said disinformation hasn't a done damn thing to detour Gen Z and millennials from vaping at the bars, but it has given an excuse for middle-age + smokers not to try and switch to a less harmful nicotine delivery system.
Either medical technology will make it a non issue or more likely it won't end up mattering.
Besides, my signature move is to let the other guy run his mouth while I quietly finish my smoke with a smirk on my face. Letting him make himself madder and madder because I won't say anything and right before he freaks out I flip the cigarette at his face. Does not work in the UFC, but behind a bar in the alley at 3am, works fine.
I started smoking daily by 14.
Now 26 days since my last one. This time it's easy. But every other time I've tried I did it because I thought I should this time I've stopped because I actually want to.
I loved smoking, but pregnancy nausea made me quit, then breastfeeding, then I didn’t want to make my baby smell like cigarettes and now 26 years later, I can’t stand the smell of them. I still dream about it tho…
I have been quit for a while.
But.
I want one every single day.
My life at times has been high stress to the point that I developed a cardiac reaction to stressors. Smoking made me "happy."
Also, I grew up with a mom who was not shy about telling me that if I wanted to ever be thin, I needed to smoke instead of "stuffing mashed potatoes in my face."
Jokes on her. I lost weight when I quit. A lot and it's stayed off.
ciggs are like what...8 dollars a pack now so like 250-300 dollars per month? I don't know why one would bother considering it's banned most public places.
Smoked for 18 years…motivated by my kid to quit. His 2nd birthday party was coming up and I realized I would be the only smoker at the party which was embarrassing. I wanted to quit for years and that moment made it happen. It was a slow process. Switched to American Spirits to get off the chemicals and then went on a patch for a week. It wasn’t that terrible. Going out drinking was tough for a while. I do enjoy a cigar or the devils lettuce once in a while. But now the smell of cigarette smoke is gross to me.
Quit in 2016 using the patch. Tried everything else except hypnosis. I occasionally get a vague craving and then I see the prices for cigarettes. I’d rather spend my money on something that won’t give me cancer.
I smoked until 2008. I never thought I would quit. It was a part of my daily routine and my identity. I never considered it addiction. Total denial. I tried to quit but never for long. Finally what made me quit was staying with a good friend, a nonsmoker. This friend had started smoking and she and her partner smoked 3 packs per day per person. I stayed in their home 5 days. At the airport, I threw the lighter in the garbage at security and impulsively also threw the pack away. I was absolutely repulsed by it after my previous 5 days. As a postscript, one of the friends has since died of cancer. Never quit the cigs, throughout the illness.
I quit 24 years ago and I’d be lying if I said i don’t miss it
First cig of the day was the best
I don’t judge,do what makes you happy,we all die eventually
Want something that will really blow your mind? I quit 19 years ago and am considering starting casually smoking because I’ve learned I can do that. I love smoking.
Because they're delicious? I mean, why do people do anything unhealthy? Because it's enjoyable.
Why do people drink? Or do cocaine? Or watch tv for hours on end? Or anything else that destroys the mind and body?
Cuz we're gonna die anyway.
IDK. I've been smoking for 30+ years and I don't remember every not enjoying the hell out of a cigarette. Been between a pack and a pack and a half a day most of that time.
If you are enjoying the hell out of every cigarette, then you really are a neurochemical anomaly. Most people I know who smoke feel rather trapped by that addiction.
The only thing I’ve ever been addicted to is caffeine, and while I might imagine that it’s pleasure that I’m getting from my ritual cup of coffee in the morning, and there is some pleasure, it’s largely just the symptoms of withdrawal being alleviated. As much as I love coffee.
That's sad. I've never really had much of a physical addiction to anything. Been into and out of drugs my whole life. Never had any issues except boredom when I quit. I don't know if I'm capable of quitting cigarettes as easily as I did everything else but I've never wanted to try. 🤷♂️
Sorry. This post is ridiculous. I don’t smoke and never have, but I love several people who have struggled for years attempting to quit. EVERYONE knows why most people still smoke- it extremely addictive and difficult to quit.
OP, Google it.
I didn't quit because I thought giving up would be like trying to give up Heroin, , until tried it for a week, it was so easy considering I had no intention of giving it up!
I’ll never be able to quit. I give up trying. I haven’t had a drink in YEARS and don’t do any other drugs. It’s my only vice with my crazy, stressful life. I’ve tried everything. I smoke 10 a day. I was up to a full pack when I lost my bf of 15 years from Covid in 2021 for a year but down to 10 now. I wish I could stop.
Man it's really hard to quit I wanted to quit for MOST of the time I smoked and that was 20 years of my life.
Do not underestimate how nasty and predatory that industry is and how menacing that addiction is.
I ain't trying to live forever. My mom who never touched a cigarette in her life died a terrible lingering years long death from Alzheimer's and I had to care for her. My friend who died of lung cancer found out and was dead six weeks later. You do the math.
My mom and dad had Alzheimer’s. Devastating. Now my brother and sister have early onset Alzheimer’s.
I often think I need to restart smoking or something. The future scares the hell out of me.
Yeah old age only looks appealing if I’ve lots of money to afford independent care and support. Looking at my mother and her sisters in their 80’s…..I’m not sure that’s for me. It seems very painful.
I have a degenerative autoimmune arthritis. At 54 I’m already deformed and limited in mobility. I also haven’t had consequences that can connect to the smoking (when I could still work out, no problems like shortness of breath). I have severe pain almost every day. The planet is boiling. Old age doesn’t sound all that appealing to me.
If I get cancer from it, so be it. I’m certainly not going to look around and say “why me?”. I would probably say “fair enough.”
So young to have to that. Please accept my internet hug. That’s awful and it must be shattering to deal with loss of mobility and regular, severe pain. I’ve got Shingles right now and often wonder how people cope with long term chronic pain. My mother gets sports massages and Prolia injections. Both seem to help her.
Thank you. 😊
I am actually in a place where everything is “managed” so I can still have a life… but I’m definitely seeing the progression.
I first got sick in my early thirties, and I’ve always been grateful that I got to have a healthy body in my twenties and got to do all the things I did.
Oh brother, you don't want to know how these seniors are living out their old age right now.
With my job I see people on a daily basis who keep wondering why they haven't died yet. They no longer want to be alive, but their body is still functioning just enough to keep them alive and in constant pain.
I'm gonna light up another one right now and not feel bad that I won't be 80 and in constant torture.
They’re all in serious pain with arthritis and it’s awful to say but they look like stick-men walking. They don’t eat a whole lot, don’t sleep much and simple things we can do, like opening a jar, requires a lot of strength. And then they’re so vulnerable when they’re out. You’d think that people would be more careful about them but all ages and all sorts of people happily bump into them to move along faster. My mother never smoked or drank so she’s in the best shape. I think mid-70s is the sweet spot.
This! I have horrible anxiety and going out w my crippled father is hell. Letting him go on his own is worse. But other ppl not paying attention or being mindful makes me CRAZY! If they fall, they break. Who deals w the damage is the person hurt & family. Not the lil assholes running around or glued to their phone. I gotta get outta gere
The end of life is never pretty. I'd prefer to still be a person with mind and personality intact instead of lingering burden that's barely a husk of a human anymore. You must have never cared for someone with Alzheimer's if you somehow think suffocation is worse than losing your actual personhood and lingering on that way for years.
Emphysema, heart disease and stroke are all increased with smoking, incredibly expensive and don't kill you.
Source: Had one uncle live for at least a decade in a wheelchair unable to speak because of a stroke. Had another uncle live for over a decade putting all his meals in a blender cause he had tongue cancer or something. One was cigarettes. One was cigars.
You don't always hit the lotto and die in a week or less.
Can they still think? Can they still talk? Can they still hug their grandkids? Cause my mom couldn't do any of that in her last decade. My goal isn't to linger on a tank. If I linger, I get Alzheimer's.
Dying of lung disease or even living with it with emphysema / COPD is horrific & long lasting. It’s not like most people who smoke drop dead from a quick death.
haha...I mean, seriously, this is one of the reasons why I'm not going to judge people for it. The world is a shit show right now, and we're all going to die anyway, so do what you want. Having said that, one of the main reasons I quit was because I don't really feel like going through what smokers go through at the end of life. It doesn't sound like a good time to me. Cutting life shorter? Eh, who cares. Having a painful end of life? Yeah, I care. But, you will never catch me judging someone for smoking these days.
You have to be motivated to make the change, a lot of people aren't. It's not just a physical habit, it's cognitive, behavioral... huge lifestyle change.
What I don't get is people who, in this day and age, START smoking.
Have you ever smoked, OP?!? I started smoking at 14. Quit for a bit, then started chewing nicotine pouches. 30 years of nicotine usage, shit is no joke to quit.
My Dad was a smoker since he was 13. Begged him to stop but he couldn’t/wouldn’t do it. He had a massive heart attack in 2015 which he survived, but continued smoking. 9 months later he had another heart attack which killed him. I’m still angry at him for being so irresponsible with his body and for leaving us. He would have been 82 yesterday.
I quit about 15 years ago. The nicotine addiction wasn't actually the hardest part - the hardest part was the rituals that come with smoking. Like having a nice meal, pushing your chair away from the table and lighting up. Or the feeling of camaraderie with other smokers in the smoking room or outside a venue. I still miss it. Also - given how annoying I found it when I got judged for smoking I made sure *not* to be a shitty ex-smoker to those who still indulge.
my idiot brother (boomer) has a pacemaker AND had an aortic aneurism (and somehow lived) and is STILL smoking. boggles my mind. esp when our dad and grandfather both died from heart attacks in their 50s.
To someone who has never been addicted to cigarettes, here is how I describe it: It is like having another Instinct to deal with. In fact it’s stronger than most of our natural instincts.
If it’s midnight, pouring rain, and I’m out of food and hungry, I’ll likely just wait until tomorrow to get something. Change out food for cigarettes and I guarantee you I’m driving in the rain at midnight to get a pack of cigarettes!
Some other factors… it does whatever you want it to do. If I needed a pick me up, it gave me a shot of energy. If I was stressed out, it magically made me relax.
Also, there’s the oral fixation thing, the fire, the smoke, the ritual, the smoking friends you make at the designated smoking area, etc.
Finally there’s nothing better after a big meal, as well as after sex.
I thought you couldn't take opioids and benzos at the same time? that was the cause of death in one of my friends who od'd on fent was because she had taken Xanax earlier that evening
Plus I bet it was the fentanyl that took your friend out. That is a WHOLE mother kinda opiate. Like someone else posted, I should be dead from the 6+ substances a day I was hooked on for years, but it didn’t. Everyone is different.
But it was the fentanyl, you can’t trust anything anymore unless it comes from a pharmacy.
They are both downers to the CNS. Everyone is affected differently by any type of substance (drugs, alcohol, food?) anyways many ppl are ok both, but in the last 8 years they’ve been cracking down.
Yes there are many drug combinations that can kill you, and many times the toxic sludge in my system should have killed me but didn’t. Grateful to be alive.
I’m a recovering alcoholic/addict and that stuff was BY FAR easier. I was clean and sober for 4 1/2 years before I quit smoking. I haven’t thought about drinking or drugging in 5 years but I want a cigarette every fucking day.
I've been sober for nearly 15 years. Quitting drinking was very hard and a 2 year process for me.
Quitting smoking? I've made several attempts but I'm guess I'm just not ready yet.
I really need to. In many ways, I'm more mad at myself for taking up smoking than drinking.
The responses here are interesting, either "fuck you" or "Ugh, I hate that I do this." We know for a fact what smoking does to us, this should be enough to make us quit. However, nicotine must be the most addictive element ever because people struggle so greatly with it. My relationship with smoking is not great, I think some folks look sexy or cool while smoking but most of the smokers I know are really gross people. Quitting smoking could make someone less gross. I'm a mentally a teenager but that's who I am.
I think when I was younger I probably could have taken offense to everything you have said on the topic. But with age and maturity comes some semblance of wisdom.
It's unhealthy, I'm paying for a product that is killing me. And I keep choosing to do it. And smoking makes me only more gross than my natural state.
It’s been over 20 yrs since I last had a cigarette. I gave myself one year of smoking as much as I wanted. The next year, I used a device called Phase Out. It pokes holes in the filter. I think I started out with 2-3 pokes for an about a month. Next month added another 2-3 pokes & so forth up to 12 months. Then I substituted gum. LOTS of it. The gradual cut off of nicotine for 12 months, helped me tremendously to quit. My wallet as well as my lungs are thankful and healthier! How much does a pack cost nowadays? It was between $7-$10 a pack back then. I can’t imagine the cost for a carton now.
Why do you fucking care? You don't do anything in your life that is detrimental to your health?
Go pass judgment somewhere else!
(I'm a non-smoker and I hate the smell of cigarette smoke.)
Oh, you really are that kind of troll aren't you? Mister oh-so-above-it-all. Classic internet troll responses "Weird" "Who hurt you?"
You call me weird for being angry. Which nothing in my original reply was angry. I was just calling you out on your tired bullshit.
Why? Because, you are an asshole. How do I know you're an asshole? Because I know that only an asshole would post that holier than thou bullshit you posted.
So like I said before, fuck off, you passive aggressive, pill-popping, Eckhardt Tolle self help audio book listening, douche!
My dad was a smoker since he was 14. He had an abdominal aortic aneurysm that almost killed him about 15 years ago and he hasn’t smoked since. He’s in his 80s now and is dealing with lung cancer. Unfortunately many years of smoking have already done the damage.
I like smoking. Now I'm smoking maximum like one or two a day, not even normal cigs, just these heated tobacco rolls, and there are weeks where I don't even light up.
But I do like smoking.
I really really wish smoking wasn't so terrible for you. I really liked smoking too, it's a nice relaxing little break. I still love the smell of fresh tobacco smoke (stale is gross), and if it weren't so harmful I'd absolutely still be doing it.
The minute I get diagnosed with a fatal disease I'm back on the cigs without mercy. I mean smoking inside, ash burns in my sweaters, first thing in the morning smoking. Kinda looking forward to it in a sick way.
I told my kid that if I truly thought that we were irrevocably fucked I'd do two things- buy a pack of smokes and smoke a bowl with him. We're a recreational state and he wants to try it, but I don't think it's appropriate for me to introduce him to it. I mean honestly, he probably already has (I'm not dumb) but it's a game we play.
When my Mom had cancer one of the last things she did before she was completely bedridden was smoke a cigarette. I mean at that point, who's going to argue with her about it? She said it wasn't nearly as good as she'd hoped it would be. At this point that's what keeps me from picking it back up- I remember how lousy it feels to start smoking again and just decide it's not worth the headache.
Right? I mean, I have told people that if I somehow make it 100 years old, I may just start smoking again. It's not like I'm going to have that much time left anyway. lol
Do you ever:
\* Drink Alcohol? That is poison and causes cancer.
\* Are you over weight (66% of people in the US are).
\* Vape
\* Smoke pot
\* Not exercise for at least 2.5 hours per week?
\* Binge watch TV for more than two hours of TV at a time?
\* Eat anything with high fructose corn syrup?
Why do you do that to yourself?
The "Seriously" and "WTF?" makes your post feel very judgmental rather than honestly curious or concerned.
To answer your question: I gave up drinking. That was much more unhealthy for me than smoking, plus it induced to me smoke more. Now I smoke one, and occasionally two cigarettes per day. I may quit someday. But right now it's a hell of a lot better than drinking and doing it helps me not drink.
It also helps me exercise, as strange as that sounds. I have a routine where I do work in the morning and then at a certain time go outside, have my one cig of the day and then do a hike -- usually 10,000 steps and sometimes 14,000 or more.
Even on days I might not want to hike the desire for the cig gets me out the door.
Does that answer your condescending question??
I stopped about 15 years ago, and I'm very glad that I did. However, I refuse to be one of those ex-smokers that judges people for smoking. It's a bad look.
I didn’t plan to quit but I got a really bad sinus infection and it caused them to taste like literal shit. I would almost puke with every drag. I’m thankful that happened now but was not happy at the time with how I was forced to quit
Same... I'll offer every little bit of help I can, if you ask for it. But I won't badger you at all if you don't want it. I'm not your mamma, I'm not gonna nag you.
One of my neighbors would smoke, so I couldn't leave my windows open or had to close them every hour when he'd go out for one, otherwise my living space would smell like an ashtray. I do not miss the smell, and when I walk by someone who is smoking, it's like being hit with a hammer.
I had no idea how badly I must have REEKED until I quit. I cannot tolerate the smell any longer. I won't freak out if somebody lights up around me but I'd happily chew my own arm off to get away from it. Ick.
it’s so strange looking back smoking was everywhere when we were teenagers I remember starting smoking when I was 15. It was so normal and high school kids could smoke on the front porch of school.
I quit when I was around 20 and then picked it up again when I got into the bar scene in my mid 20s quit again when my first kid was born when I was 32 I’ve not had a cigarette in over 20 years.
Now I can't stand them and can smell them a block away.
Don’t judge. It’s harder for some to quit than others. Addiction isn’t fun… no matter what the vice is. Stupid to have started whatever the vice is? Yes. Does it make us any less of a person? No. Your initial question could have been presented better… or else just don’t ask at all.
Addiction. That’s it. But seriously people need to give that sh** up for reallz. Just chew the gum and start vaping weed man. It’s so stinking stinky I can’t stand yo be around people that smoke (Ex smoker here) 🙋♀️
I quit smoking for 8 years. My 19 year old son passed suddenly in December. I took up smoking again. Better than the bottle of Jameson.
That being said, I’m quitting again soon .. maybe today? I’m over it. It smells bad. I have a routine where I have to wash my hands right after smoking. Then brush my teeth. Then moisturize my hands, face and neck. It’s tiresome. But it helped me cope the first couple of months. It’s time to move forward. This post is a reminder of how gross it truly is.
Judas Priest I can't even imagine the pain. If you need an anonymous friend, I'm right here, not in a creepy way (which is something a creep would say), but just ugh. Stay strong? Stay alive? Do what you can do to feel normal, I guess.
Judas Priest :) that made me smile thank you. I’m going to have to start using that.
And thank you. I’m doing all the things for my family and myself to get by. It’s all we can do, you know? But my heartfelt thanks for you kindness.
I quit 8 years ago (I’m 53), which was probably way too late. I do vape now, however, because I got so fat when I did gum/patch or cold turkey.
Smoking became financially and socially unsustainable.
My sister (61) and my brother in law (65) still smoke like chimneys.
I can’t stand to go to their houses because it makes my clothes and hair reek, Even when I smoked I didn’t do it inside after I was 23ish.
I’m glad my son (24) never did it and I’m glad to see it’s gone the way of the dinosaurs.
I haven't had a cigarette since 2009. I still use nicotine lozenges. I fucking love nicotine. If smoking wasn't lethal, I'd be right there. There was a post on /r/askold people, what would you do if you knew you'd die at 52. My first thing is I would buy a pack of Camel filters and spark it up
It’s the one addiction I can’t completely kick. I quit smoking cigarettes about 10 years ago, but my vape is grasped firmly in my hand at all times.
I quit recreational drugs 30+ years ago; alcohol 3 years ago, both with no problem. Nicotine is a bitch that grabs hold of you and *won’t* let go, and goddamn it, it’s my last vice and I love it. I can’t and won’t judge anyone that still smokes because I know first hand how hard it is to quit.
I think Marlboro was $3.50 in 2009. The bars were losing inside smoking, and my Blackstone cherry Cigarillo I was smoking went from $3.50 a pack of 10 to $5.00 I was done. Looks like they are now $9.20 for the same amount today.
Started at 14. Quit in my 30’s for 5 years (no you really can’t just have one) and 58 now and still smoking.
I know all the facts. I hate being a smoker but I love smoking. It’s gross and nasty and I still do not foresee me quitting.
I did stop smoking inside years ago and that did cut back on the amount significantly. Still…
It’s weird cause I also have this thought when I see people still getting smokes. lol like come on - I have to remember how difficult it is to stop. I smoked for the majority of my life , can’t really judge anybody. I still miss them sometimes. ..
I've smoked cigarettes for 30 years. I've tried gum, patches, lozenges, anything to kick them. I even tried vapes and nothing worked. I'm 47 years old and at this point fuck it I'll probably die from smoking them at some point. There's my contribution to this post.
I have no clue why these people don’t just get a vape pen. I have a friend who still smokes and I can’t convince him to just vape. I’ve tried it once…the nicotine buzz was crazy.
I actually like the mild buzz. It kind of gives me a warm, relaxed feeling right in my chest. But yeah, I probably smoke one cig on a special occasion, maybe in a month or even several months. I keep a pack of Marlboro lights in my car, and the current one is 2 years old.
I'm not sure if I get a mild buzz or if it's just a mental thing that I am rewarding myself with something.
I grew up in the 80's and smoking was still glamorous back then so every time I light a cigarille, I sort of feel like Alexis Carrington. I have a silver case for my cigarilles and use a crystal ash tray - and I am looking for an expensive lighter. I just really like the glamorous vibe around smoking.
Started smoking at 8. Am 48 now.
I feel like smoking has been my best friend through out my entire life but unfortunately, that bestie is trying to kill me.
Old habits die hard. Smoking is the only addiction I have not been able to kick.
Have you seen how people vote? It's not a logical decision to smoke once you're addicted. The only people left still smoking I think have some kind of mental defect where they just can't or don't care enough to fight it. In my narrow experience they are poor, uneducated, blue collar and live in more rural areas, so they are also surrounded by more smokers and don't work in an office where they would not allow it.. These are the same people who still use chewing tobacco.
According to you smokers have some kind of mental defect. Oh, and they're poor, uneducated, blue collar, don't work in an office, and live in rural areas.
Do you have any kind of actual statistics to back any of this up or are you just experiencing brain-to-mouth diarrhea?
yeah i'd say that's pretty accurate in my experience. Everyone who can quit has quit. that leaves people with some wires crossed in their brains. And they are overwhelmingly poor and rural as those areas do not provide the negative feedback you will get in almost any urban setting.
Have you met a smoker? they can be the most self centered rude disgusting people to the point that I have to assume nicotine makes you like that. I have melted plastic decking because a friend brought their friend over who smokes. Cigarette buts in flower pots and in my driveway. No apology. no "hey can i have an ash tray?" . Smokers flick burning cigarettes out into traffic. Stink up parking garages, cause fires, burn down houses. Had a coworker who refused to quit because she "didn't want to gain weight", literally burned her house down and almost killed her kids. I toured the house and it was a horror show. She f\*cking lied to the fire investigators and said a homeless guy did it (but privately told everyone haha my bad). Every meeting, stank up the room, took endless smoke breaks. smokers will borrow your car and smoke in despite being told not to, then lie to your face. i can provide endless anecdotes. But since I don't like to think these are actually bad people, i can only conclude they have a screw loose.
Slow method of depressive self-destruction:
“Here's the news: I am going to sue the Brown & Williamson Tobacco Company, manufacturers of Pall Mall cigarettes, for a billion bucks! Starting when I was only twelve years old, I have never chain-smoked anything but unfiltered Pall Malls. And for many years now, right on the package, Brown & Williamson have promised to kill me.
But I am eighty-two. Thanks a lot, you dirty rats.”
-Kurt Vonnegut
I quit 4 years ago but sometimes I would absolutely LOVE a cigarette. The idea of a nice cocktail in a dark bar with an ashtray in front of me, a cigarette in one hand, and a lighter in another sounds like heaven.
I won’t do it but I desperately wish I could with no consequences.
I don’t blame people who still smoke. I get it.
I quit in 2007 with Zyban (aka Wellbutrin). I suffered the side effects of... being a very, very... um... *affectionate* wife. I still don't know why that happened, but neither me nor my husband complained!
Lozenges were my ticket out. I was paying about $0.40 a tablet (2mg) and would break them in half. Took over a year or so (assuming you cheat because you still have the muscle memory), but you have no idea how much the smoke interferes with your taste buds and olfactory senses.
I’ve used it and it works. Never was on the meds as long as I was supposed to. 2 weeks sounds right. Ps. The side effects are the same as quitting smoking - irritable & mood changes.
I'm seeing that they discontinued chantix in 2021 but hopefully they've replaced it with something similar. Good to know about the side effects. Doesn't sound terrible.
About two weeks. There's a point in the beginning where you start taking the chantix but you're still smoking. Then you just don't want them anymore. At least that's how it was for me.
What ppl don’t realize is the side effects are the same as if u quit cold Turkey. Irritable, mood changes, for me lots of tears…. I have mental health issues too, and have done chantix 2x and final time was cold Turkey. But I highly recommend ppl to try it bc yes it is only like 2 weeks.
I quit while my wife was pregnant. That was 21 years ago. My 10 years of smoking caused permanent damage, but I'm doing much better than if I had not quit.
Do you treat other substance abuse addicts the same way? Like, *people who still smoke crack, wtf? Why do you still do that to yourself?* or *people who still drink themselves into a blackout, wtf?*
Nicotine is addictive. Full stop.
It's harder to quit than heroin.
Sincerely, me - a Recovering Nicotine Addict (quit 2007)
I only quit a few months ago. If I won big in the lottery it would be tricky to stay quit because I quite enjoyed smoking. There were obviously down sides, such as the existence of non smokers, but the actual physical part i liked a lot.
After 35yrs of smoking today I'm 100 days off tobacco and cannabis 😁
https://preview.redd.it/9r4oesm03smc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f95dcb776a9d5edb15551008e400e689f0eebd95
I was walking through a parking lot the other day and was suddenly taking back to 1988 with the smell of a pile of cigarette butts in a car ashtray, and I thought to myself, "who in the hill still smokes today?". Then it occurred to me that I smelled weed in that same parking lot, and did not think anything of it. We have completely reversed to where we no longer notice the smell of weed coming from someone, but now the smell of cigarettes is offensive.
Why ask why? Why is the sky blue, why are rainbows awesome...Wait, is OP an ex smoker? Then you'd know why. My mother didn't raise no quitter! ;)
2 months and 4 days now, not one cigarette. Have tried several times before, and I feel very confident I will be able to finally kick the habit for good.
It IS an addiction, very, very hard one. AND yes, most know what we are doing to ourselves, OR seen what it's done to others. Mother is currently on Oxygen, can barely walk, and yet I still smoked until recently.
It's a very personal and mental thing. Even now, I daily convince myself of all the money I'm saving, the better example i'm setting, the health benefits.
Yet every time I walk into walmart I'm like damnit! I can't stand the smell in here, someone just give me a smoke would ya! LOL.
I played sports, a lot of them. I never noticed getting winded or anything but I'm sure I was. Putting tar in your lungs and constricting blood vessels is never a good idea.
This is a good answer. Smokers get so mad and defensive when you question their habit. It's like they know they are wrong and don't want someone telling them what they already know lol. I just think if you smoke your entire life you actually become a cigarette and it takes years to get the stench out of you. Like I said to someone else, I work with lifetime smokers and it's really hard to be near them.
>it's really hard to be near them
Agree 100%. It's also hard to read all these excuses that they actually believe. Addiction seriously impaired their cognitive function as well.
People who don't smoke cigarettes? Wtf,? Do you keep up to date and follow all the food Intake science? Do you test your surroundings your carpet, your paint? Do you read every ingredient of every food? Fuck you our world is designed to hurt us. Give me what little control I can get. Did I mention fuck you? People who don't know what the fuck their talking about. Wtf? Fucking duche.
Just so you know, I was indifferent to the paragraph of words you wrote and I then read. Your thoughts on the matter have not offended me at all. Only critique I have is, it's "fucking douche".
That's fare. It is an invasive comment. Take it or leave it. To be clear, and I don't mean you, most people are assholes. If that's not been your experience I'm happy for you.
Oh man Kimbersill. It's true most everyone is a butthead. Just do as best as can or don't. The only thing I've seen that has matterd has been being nice to people, being there for people. I mean we are less then nothing, I'm speaking galaxy style let alone universe or endless space. As will wheaton says, don't be a dick
Anyone able to express their feelings as you did is better off than the kind of repressed asshat that tells a complete stranger to "get help" as if they have solved every problem caused by their own insufferably smug personality.
You don't, didn't know what a douche was before you Googled it did you? Haha that tickles me. Going to the bathroom at your best friend's house there it is the douche thing from the older sister. Nonevent really still a good burn. Fuckng dbah, may you knife chip and shatter.
When I started school, they told us that smoking was bad. I begged my parents to quit. Mom did, dad hid it for many many years. My grandfather died of lung cancer when I was 12. I started smoking at 13. I finally quit in 2007 thanks to a loving, stubborn wife. I still want to smoke. I know if I even had one, I’d be right back at it. Addiction is a terrible thing.
I hate when people act like smoking is all about addiction and that's it. Smoking is a pleasurable experience. It's great! That why people do it! That's why despite having quit a few years ago I still want one every now and then. If I had to quit eating cookies, I'd probably still want one of those every 6 months or so.
Addiction. Was at Disney World with a friend and the way they acted trying to get to the smoking area was more like an addict trying to get their fix.
Not sure I want to take another trip with them if they are going to continue to smoke.
I've struggled with smoking cigs for decades 😒 Managed to quit for a year due to pregnancy. All other attempts have been short-lived. Had good results with Chantix, but it was pulled from the market for causing cancer 🤦🏼♀️ Also tried Bupropion and had a bad reaction.
I’m not. I’ve known them for years and years. In response to the post though, why still
do it? It is a talk had between us before. At our age it’s more from a place of concern. Of course I guess cancer can impact any of us in spite of what we do.
I quit in November then in December I had bronchitis. It was the worst feeling. Not being able to breathe properly. Couldn't walk a flight of stairs without catching my breath. When the bronchitis cleared I had no urge to go back. I miss tje nostalgia of it. Care free youth smoking cigs without worry, but I don't want to go back.
I find it interesting that smoking gets so much more negative attention than drinking, even though modern research has shown that there is no “healthy” moderation of drinking (yes, that 1-2 glasses of red wine being healthy has been shown to be a myth).
I realize there’s no “second hand alcohol” issue, but there’s also no epidemic of people dying from drivers smoking cigarettes.
I don’t smoke, but I like to have a drink once or twice a month. As long as people are educated to understand their own health risks and know how not to endanger others, I’m going to respect their ability to decide for themselves.
Why do people still sit on the beach in the blazing hot sun? Why do people drink and drive? Why do people eat foods that are detrimental to their health? Why do people not find time to stay active, even low impact?
I could go on and on. Life is full of choices. Why do people feel it's ok to shame other people? Smokers know the risks. Let them live their lives.
I quit months before my 30th birthday in 2007 after about 15 years of smoking. 2nd toughest damn thing I ever had to do. To this day, if I picked up a cigarette, I have doubts about whether I could keep myself from going back.
Ugh I was leaving the grocery store today and in the car next to me was an old man with his windows down smoking a cigarette. I opened the door and quickly got in because the smell of it makes me want to throw up. Even for those brief seconds, the smell followed me into my car. That shit is potent. 🤢🤢
We are all closer to death than we are away from it. If not for our age then from the drive home from work tonight. I have no children. I don't hurt anyone else with my smoking. Why are you here judging me or others? Live your life and let others live their own.
Asking why isn't judgement, it's just asking why. You feel judged because you know that with all the information we have about smoking, to continue to do so is ridiculous.
You may think it's an innocent question, but a lot of your phrasing suggests otherwise. "to continue to do so is ridiculous" is indeed a judgmental statement.
Because you're right, every smoker knows the deal. This isn't the way back time where advertisements proclaimed that doctors recommended the cool feeling of Newports.
We all know, and some of us are very lucky to be able to say that we quit. The people that haven't yet may have tried countless times, so asking these kinds of questions doesn't help them. It only adds another layer of feeling bad about themselves. Even if people don't want to quit, there's no reason to ask "why do you still do that to yourself?"
The question in and of itself is fine if you phrase it in such a way that shows curiosity and a desire to understand what it feels like to be addicted. However...the way your question and responses are written makes it feel like that's not your goal.
The goal is always conversation. If conversation is somewhat contentious, that's fine, we are all grown ups with strong opinious. By using "wtf" conversation is certainly sparked, so mission accomplished. The reason to ask, "why do you still do that to yourself" is just as you say, maybe someone will say, "fuck it, u/bigmistaketoday called out smoking, so I'm done." Maybe not. I do find it interesting how defensive smokers are though. Like they are defending the indefensible and I guess that's kinda noble.
So is eating unhealthy food and I guarantee you there are more people obese than there is smokers, but obese people keep eating unhealthy food in excessive amounts.
Even though they know eating unhealthy and in excess is going to kill. Them.
I don't want to live a long life but I don't want to straight up kill myself like shooting myself in the head or something.
​
This planet is a hellhole that gets worse every year. Simple. I don't care if I die in my 50's-60's from smoking. Hell, even my 40's.
Addiction researcher here. Nicotine is the most addictive drug - by many definitions. Partly because of the number of times (drug-cue pairings) a person smokes a day, partly because nicotine acts on learning and memory centers …. but it all amounts to massive amounts of craving which is a hard thing to reckon with.
It's amazing how many human behaviors come down to self medicating for depression. Folks lose the ability to give a fk. If that idea feels foreign and/or hard to believe, congratulations.
Why you gotta call me out like that...
For real though. I know it could kill me, but some days it's just, like...[when?](https://media1.tenor.com/m/tepbmj-AmH4AAAAC/when-blazing.gif)
Exactly. I mentioned this in another response, and it's slightly off topic. But, the pandemic allowed me to quit drinking. It became very easy to stop when I no longer had to trudge into the office every day and have constant interaction with people. Social anxiety was a prime motivator for a lot of my bad habits, alcohol and nicotine included. It's remarkable how, when people are allowed to live their lives as they see fit, addictions become easier to beat.
I quit cold turkey 12 years ago. Every day I would Google the # of days I’d quit and the changes made in my body. Sounds strange but it helped me.
Sitting in traffic was the hardest for me. That and having a cocktail without smoking. So hard.
I remember reading once that quitting smoking was losing your best friend. You’re stressed? Light up. You’re celebrating? Light up. Morning coffee? Light up. Traffic annoying? Light up. I’d automatically light up if someone else did (or they’d light up in the movie/tv show). You feel lost when you no longer have your friend there to comfort you. It made sense to me.
I smoked Parliament Lights and I’d swear I could smell when someone lit one up! So crazy!
Now it’s like I never smoked BUT I swear I smoke in my dreams! lol it’s the wildest thing.
I’m strange I know. Good luck out there to all trying to
quit!
dk, haven’t timed such a short distance in a couple years, and nothings flat around here anyway so it would mean anything to you…*but thank you for letting me know that you read my comment, and that it caused you to get your panties in a bunch*.
I derive great satisfaction from that.
I haven’t had a cigarette in a year!! Vapes helped me. Banana vapes to be exact. I used that until I didn’t need a cigarette anymore then weened myself off nicotine by lowering it every few weeks. Now I am only addicted to banana laffy taffy and now and laters.
People with certain mental illnesses often wind up smokers because nicotine can help with anxiety and mood regulation. Maligning people living with mental illness is not cool. Definitely not a GenX thing to do. Shame on you.
Thank you for saying this so eloquently, I was failing to find the words. I am damn proud the only bad thing I do is smoke, people judging from their perfect sideline are ignorant which is messed up, but coming from a Gen X this is absolutely fucked. So my ubeloquent Gen X response to OP is go fuck yourself and did I even ask for your opinion.
Addiction is tough. I get it. I was a smoker, too. It’s hard to quit. If you want to quit, there are resources out there that can help you achieve your goal.
So I’m reading some comments I find EXTREMELY disturbing. So yes I am a smoker. I’ll be 58 next month and therefore have been smoking 44 years.
The way some of you talk that I should be hung from the highest tree. How about this, it is an addiction. You all celebrate everyone who has beaten theirs as well as I. I’m not an alcoholic, never been a drug addict but apparently I’m not a human because I smoke. You fucking hypocrites!
Yes I know I should quit. But in the foreseeable future it won’t happen. I’ve never had health issues from my smoking. While my doctor would like me to quit HE knows it won’t happen. He leaves it a moot point at this time. He knows it isn’t what makes up my health issues and keeps me from homicidal tendencies.
So until you bunch of uptight, self righteous hypocrites live my life…
Mid teens I worked with a guy who smoked cloves. I hadn't seen that since the 90s, the smell evoked a moment of nostalgia. Then, kinda "dude wtf?"
He says he never really kicked the habit but he is/was way down on how much he smokes. Maybe, like 1x-2x/week one clove cigarette. generally as a reward for doing something productive like major work project, personal goal (lost n pounds) and such. The next several years bore that out.
I suppose if there's a healthy level that might be it, but I realize he's something of a rarity. Now, pot smokers I know a few and there's one who, especially now that he's retired, he does a fair amount. He has some nausea, pain and general discomfort from dealing with cancer and he's trying to get himself away from any opiate use. The marijuana apparently helps that a lot.
I suppose these are both off what you're really asking though.
It's the only habit I have left. I'm sober (other than cannabis) for thirteen years. Plus, why do you care? I can't get over why folks feel the need to butt in for something that absolutely doesn't concern them. If I smoke in public, I stand far away from people. I don't litter. I dispose of the butt in the proper bin. I don't even smoke inside my home or car. Why can't y'all just leave us alone? There are other things to be focused on out in the world. For real, it's out of hand. You stop bugging us and I won't roll up and talk about your unhealthy relationship with alcohol and how you are destroying your liver as well as developing unhealthy coping mechanisms.
Don't you love when you're standing in the back 40, away from everyone, and here comes some family by you, all coughing and glaring. Parents teaching their kids to be all rude and dramatic................. get the fuck away from me!!!!
Yes!!! Someone did this to me on Fremont Street in Las Vegas at one AM. It was mom with a baby in a stroller! But yeah, I'm the problem. Clearly it is acceptable to walk with an infant past showgirls in pasties and a guy in a thong while three bands are trying to out do each other on different stages and people are crazy intoxicated. No. It's me well off to the side with my smoke that you feel the need to walk into. Ugh.
There was definitely a learning curve in the beginning. If I have a regular smoke now, I can't tell the difference anymore, except for the fire suppression BS. Anytime someone bums a smoke, they say they can't tell, but who complains about a free smoke?
I feel like this is drilled into us from every news source:
- Quit smoking
- Quit drinking, even a little bit is too much.
- Don't eat too much red meat.
- Don't eat too many carbs.
- Don't consume so much sugar.
- No plastic bottled water, they have microplastics.
- Factory animal farming is incredibly harmful to the environment, not to mention unethical - go vegan.
- Eat GMO-free grains.
- Too many pesticides in our crops.
No matter what you do - you are going to harm yourself.
Stress and to be able to get time to myself. Can’t smoke around the kid, so I go outdoors and get that 10 minutes of quiet.
I have quit, even recently, and I actually didn’t smoke for like 2 decades. Picked it up again in the pandemic during my divorce.
I still enjoy them. Vapes and gum just aren’t the same. It’s nearly impossible to quit unless you really want to and I don’t really want to. I have no history of cancer on either side of my family (mostly smokers) and I have potential to live to 100 (my nana didn’t quit until she was in her 90’s and cigarettes didn’t kill her, she had to will herself to die after having to live through losing 3 of her 8 children, none from smoking ) my body is busted up and I don’t want to live another 50 years so I’m rolling the dice.
I love nicotine! It's really a great drug. If it didn't kill you and smell so terrible, I'd still be smoking. I quit 5 yrs so and I miss the buzz, the appetite suppression and energy that Nicotine gave me.
Despite that, I'm am so glad that I am no longer controlled by the addiction.
I quit an about two years ago after very heavy smoking since my teens, because I wanted to get loose skin removed from losing 200 lbs 15 years ago. But quitting also meant regaining (at least some weight), among other things. So long story short I quit smoking successfully but at the expense of everything else I hold dear in my life.
Now body my settled down I can begin to loose weight again, and I miss smoking a little, but nothing on earth will have me repeat the past two years again so I’m sure it’s good.
I can’t say I regret it but the asshats who get paid to act like it’s a temporary inconvenience can burn in hell’s ashtray.
I smoked for almost 20 years and quit 17 years ago. I still miss it. I give in every now and then and bum one off my sister. There's just something about it. Back then, smoking while sitting in 1+ hour of traffic everyday kept me sane. It made the time pass.
We all grew up around it and I can see why it was easy to start and have a helluva time stopping. The cigarette companies knew what they were doing to make it so cool and addictive, so I may not be a smoker, but I understand.
This thread is making me want a cigarette and I finally quit 9 years ago after smoking for 20 years. Just the mention if it and describing the rituals and reasons around it is enough to trigger the craving. Of course the tobacco companies were quick to agree to the "stop smoking" ads as a punishment.
thanks! It took me getting into a cardio intensive habit (cycling to work) to finally kick it. But even still, something in life would go bad and I'd lean back on them again to finally it went away. WOOF. The worse. regrets!
I lived in Germany for about a year, and everybody there smokes. I mean, everybody - young people, old people, men, women, and it's everywhere - parks, restaurants, kids playground. Often you can see someone smoking while driving a bike lol. What stuck me as odd is that they seem to do just fine health and life span wise. So maybe smoking isn't that bad after all?
By region, the highest lung cancer mortality rates (per 100,000) in 2012 were in Central and Eastern Europe (47.6) and Eastern Asia (44.8) among males and in Northern America (23.5) and Northern Europe (19.1) among females; the lowest rates were in sub-Saharan Africa in both males (4.4) and females (2.2).
That's an interesting fact, thank you, I didn't know that. Sounds plausible. Smoking isn't that popular among females where I live (Eastern Europe), although males (especially older ones) smoke a lot.
Ive heard of them. My best friend takes those (I’m not entirely sure what they are or how u take it) but I like the smoke, like the feeling of the smoke entering my lungs then blowing it out and seeing the smoke. I know it’s so bad and I need to quit for my health, but it’s so hard.
They are little pouches you stick in your mouth, in your cheek or under your tongue, like chew pouches. They contain nicotine but no tobacco. So, no smelly smoke, but you get your nicotine fix. People like them while at work.
I worked in restaurants for a long time. Now I'm kinda homebound, it's like the last thing. I'm going to switch to vape and hopefully taper down...I have patches and gum. It's fucking hard
I’m currently vaping to get away from the smell but I’m not sure how effective it is for quitting nicotine. These things are just as bad. I still love my Marlboros but I’ve just gotten self conscious about the smell at work. The vapes aren’t bad and I stick with the more tobacco flavored products because I hate smoking grape flavored Big League Chew…
Hahaha! That's the thing I hate..the smell. Cancer too
It's just so difficult, I wish I never did it. Every adult I knew growing up smoked. I was doomed.
Sorry sunshine, not everyone has the luxury of being able to afford vacations and need something that makes them happy, even if they are aware it will kill them.
If you have never been addicted its easy to say ‘just stop’ because you have no context. I smoked for 20 years (5 years smoke free and would never go back). I stupidly started because i girl I liked in high school smoked and i didn’t want to seem like a square lol. Pretty stupid when I think about how bad it probably destroyed my body. But I can tell you the nicotine addiction is every bit as intense if not more than harder drugs
I am a professional quitter. Every time I have started, it was a social decision.
I would smoke if I went to hair shows. Think it's only for 3 days. I'll get one pack and then quit when I get home. I learned more standing outside in the smokers circle than in the classes.
When I had a certain job, it seemed like only the smokers got breaks. If you were on "break" but not smoking they would come grab you early to help a customer. I started smoking that time, just so I could talk to my friends and actually get my breaks.
If I was going to go out for a night and drink. You can't drink and not smoke, so one pack, for just tonight and I will quit tomorrow.
But it was never just one pack.
I quit smoking in 2011 and have only sympathy for those who are still smoking. It's a really hard addiction to kick. I feel pride in quitting but I'm not judging others for still smoking. It's brutal.
Hear me out: sometimes, every once in awhile, a few puffs of a cig can feel so nice and relaxing. You just can’t do it more than like 6x/yr. I love bumming a cig off my brother in law once in awhile.
I stopped 2 years ago. After sooooo many attempts.
I also did it on a whim, and didn't want to quit.
I used and app called QuitSure and I have not had a cigarette in over 2 years. It takes 6 days and if you follow the instructions it works.
It's cheap, and it's affective.
Physical, habitual, mental addiction. I was finally able to give it up 13 years ago because I was just ready to be done with it. The times I tried quitting before then didn't work, because I didn't feel done. I loved it.
Why not? What's it too you? Tobacco is a nice drug. And it shortens lifespan. You really want to get older? Seriously? Have you seen the state of "elderly care"? Fuck that. I am going out the way I came into this world; a problem.
I don't understand why you don't smoke. Do you think you get any kind of reward? You know all you are getting is a few more years of elderly hell, right? Those shit years at the end where you long for death but are too feeble to do anything. That is what not smoking gets you. The diaper years, the forgotten and stowed away years. The confused and frightened years. If you don't know what I am talking about then go visit an old folks home. That is your reward for not smoking and drinking and living while you had the chance.
If smoking is a high point of your life, dude that’s sad. And lots of people age reasonably well and relatively healthfully and die in one, fell swoop— unlike my mom who smoked herself to death and died basically suffocating herself to death. It was a horrible death, and hell yes I’d rather live 10 years longer and be in better shape before I go. And not traumatize my family. I think of most dedicated smokers, were exposed to what it’s like to die from a smoking related illness, it might prevent attitudes like yours. I know it’s harder than fuck to quit, though.
> **People who still smoke cigarettes, wtf?**
People who can't mind their own damn business, WTF?
Seriously, why do you put yourself in a position to fuck around and find out?
Why so aggressive? It's interesting how smokers are like completely defensive when someone asks them why. Do you feel inferior or weak? You have to know you shouldn't smoke and a reminder causes a visceral reaction? The attacks from smokers are really off-putting in their aggression. Like, folks we know it ain't good for us.
>Why so aggressive?
People can't mind their own business.
>It's interesting how smokers are like completely defensive when someone asks them why.
Again, mind your own damn business?
>Do you feel inferior or weak?
Strong enough to know you probably wouldn't come up to me in public, not minding your own damn business... asking this BS.
>You have to know you shouldn't smoke and a reminder causes a visceral reaction?
Because people should mind their damn business...
>The attacks from smokers are really off-putting in their aggression. Like, folks we know it ain't good for us.
It's not good for some gatekeeping douche to walk up to a stranger and tell them they shouldn't do something... Like... mind your own damn business!
Seeing a slight pattern here? Minding your own business is good for your health, much better than smoking is... why do you not mind your own business?
Get it yet?
I actually think it’s an interesting question. If I were looking for a nicotine delivery system, I’d probably go with vaping because it’s less messy, you can sneak and do it more places, and it’s just basically less socially unacceptable . So I do think in this day and age it’s an interesting question why people would smoke actual cigarettes. Not to mention all the secondhand smoke, you expose other people too.
I smoke cigars in the summer time. 2-3 times a week if I can, but sometimes it’s only 1 a week or less. I need to be able to dedicate a good 45 minutes in the backyard for a smoke session.
I stopped smoking some 20 years ago. I still regret that decision every day
There is no question that cigarettes are bad for you. But you know whats even worse ? Stress.
Stress kills, causes mental health problems, and makes people miserable.
Its well known and proven that smoking reduces stress.
So its just a question what you want to die from?
If it didnt cause cancer, I probably would smoke like a dragon. I have a kid now, so a most, it’s a random cigarette or 2 per year.
The cigarette in my head always tastes better than a real cigarette.
My ex smoked like a chimney. She stopped last year and she puts the money she spent on fags (English term for a cig) into a savings account. She's off on a nice holiday this year.
Hey I stopped smoking cigarettes, isn’t that something? I’m onto cigars now. I’m on a five year plan. I eliminated cigarettes, then I go to cigars, then I go to pipes, then I go to chewing tobacco, than I’m onto that nicotine gum.
John Candy aside, I quit smoking cigarettes when my time with the Navy ended in 1995 but I still smoke a few (3-5) good cigars a week.
For me, it's several things. It's the only thing that relaxes me without drugs that impair your ability to go about your day, and it's the only time I don't take short, shallow breaths. It's also a habit and a way to break up the day that just feels nice and familiar.
I've tried gum, patches, cold turkey, vapes etc but just can't do it. When I don't smoke, it's all I think about all the time, for weeks and months it just doesn't go away. I need the anxiety relief, the break, the routine, and those deep breaths to get through my day.
It sucks, and I hate it, but I've resigned myself to accepting that I need to fix my emotional issues before I can quit smoking. Unfortunately, I'm a couple of years into therapy, and even with my three different mental health meds, I'm just not making progress.
I have smoked since I was 16..my parents smoked..I hate every cigarette I light and every day or week I want to quit..I'm so addicted to these damn things..the patches do help when I try but apparently not enough..I love hate these damn cigarettes
my ex wife's mother before she died was on full oxygen because she couldn't breathe... and still would hang out the door WITH THE OXYGEN STILL GOING and smoke to try and hide it from everyone. Insanity
I had a much older relative who stopped drinking and smoking cigs around the same time. Said she never once craved another drink but wanted a cig everyday the rest of her life.
I feel so fortunate on this front. I was a smoking fiend for years. But when my daughter was born, I quit cold turkey and haven't felt the urge to smoke once in ten years. I still don't get it.
I quit for the final time about 12 years ago. I'm happy I no longer smell like smoke and that I don't have to spend $10 a pack. All this being said, there are days where, as an ex smoker, I REALLY feel like I need a cigarette, but I ignore it because of things I mentioned above. For someone who smoked for many years, I didn't think that the "I really want a cigarette" feeling ever really goes away.
I moved to Europe and the number of people who smoke here is sad. Even young people are still starting. The vaporizers too.
A new generation of addicts. So sad.
I had a colleague who was an addict in recovery and he said that quitting smoking was more difficult for him than quitting heroin. He had said that the withdrawals from smoking lasted a lot longer, were fairly severe, and required far more extensive mental retraining.
I had another colleague who quit smoking in the 80s. I worked with him in the early 2000s and he had an open pack of cigarettes in his desk drawer from like 1983. When I saw them I said I didn't know he smoked. That's when he told me the story of quitting in the early 80s and that he was fine with being a nonsmoker so long as he knew that open pack was still in his desk drawer.
I'm glad that I cannot relate to either of them.
I tried unsuccessfully to quit many times. What really pisses me off is that the only thing that worked for me (I haven't smoked in almost 15 years,) vaping, is constantly getting new taxes and restrictions applied and is generally under attack from cigarette companies, the smoking "cessation" industry, and their pet politicians. I was happy to vape nicotine instead of smoking cigarettes for several years, but eventually quit by gradually decreasing my nicotine level to zero because I wanted to quit on my own terms instead of surprise-quit because of some new legislation.
One thing I learned from quitting is that smoking is two addictions, the physical addiction to nicotine and the psychological addiction to the behaviors, both of which are exceedingly difficult to quit (at least if you're prone to addiction in-general.)
Why are a majority of people obese and eat like a human trash can. I’m sure we all have vices that are not healthy and if they don’t, I’m sure that’s their whole personality.
Almost 40 years of on/off smoking..had 4 years off at the start of the pandemic and picked up again in 22 I think..I frickin hate them but they keep coming back!!
I'm 55 and quit 10yrs ago. I am currently watching my dad who smoked for 60yrs die of COPD. He is slowly suffocating to death. It's a slow terrible death.
My father died from heart disease. He had his first heart attack at 42 and first stroke a few years later. He had a few more heart attacks and strokes until one finally took him at 54. Then a heart attack took my mother 14 years later after she lived with heart disease for a decade. Both were heavy drinkers and smokers. I’m so happy I never got into either.
My grandma lived to 92, and fought for every breath she took for the last 15 years of her life.
Grandpa wasn't as "lucky", lung cancer -> brain cancer in his early 70s.
My mom quit in her 40s and she's 81 now and going strong. I only smoked for like 10-12 years and my lungs still feel a little weird even though ive been off them for 15 years now. But I do smoke weed so maybe that's it
Same. I used to get winded going up a flight of stairs. I'm pretty healthy and active now at 49, moreso than I ever was in my 20s and early 30s as a smoker.
My dad's COPD (also from smoking) wasn't terrible, but he did have to use an inhaler on a daily basis. Passed in his sleep after 10 years of Chronic Heart Failure - which I suppose was also caused by smoking.
Probably. My dad struggles with every breath. Sits in his recliner all day.. everyday. Definitely not the way to spend your retirement. I will say he never complains. He knows he brought it on himself. Still sucks though.
Last guy I dated went back & forth between vaping & smoking and it was awful. Sure he would smoke outside but saw no issues vaping in front of me or his young children because he thought blowing smoke in the opposite direction was enough. It got to the point where I held my breath every time he exhaled. That relationship didn't last long.
You've obviously never been to flavor country. It's a fantastic place, extremely calming and you look super cool. But also addiction... I switched to vaping and honestly regret it. Trying to quit, but it's much harder because you get soo much more nicotine per hit and your tolerance goes through the roof. Cold turkey off cigs was pretty easy when I did it the first time. Tried with vape and holy shit the wd are freaking horrible. I'm currently tapering with lower nic content and it's still extremely difficult.
Why do you eat bacon or other process meats?
Why do you drink alcohol?
Why do diabetics still eat sugary foods?
Why do those with high cholesterol still eat red meat and shellfish?
People want to live their life in a way which works best for their comfort and enjoyment sometimes.
After an entire pandemic full of antivaxxers and antimaskers and all kids of other selfish stupidity that should be crystal clear by now.
Just throwing this out there for all the smokers who want to quit but can't. I could NOT quit for anything, or for anyone. Could. Not. Quit. Until I tried vaping. I only tried a vape so I could still get nicotine in places where I couldn't smoke, since smoking has been outlawed everywhere. But the second I got the hang of the vape, I immediately realized I actually liked it better than cigarettes and could finally give quitting a real chance. And quitting vaping is way Fucking easier than quitting cigarettes filled with all the chemicals that make them a million times more addictive than nicotine alone.
I smoked for 20 years and quitting was the hardest thing I've ever done, and it sucked the whole time, and I still want to smoke from time to time.
I guess my question is, WTF is your problem?
Seriously. So proud to have quit. Quit in 2020 and don’t even think about it now. My bestie also quit, so that’s helpful. We’re like, Oh, smoking?! So 20th century, omg. Real dramatic. Although if it weren’t for my worsening sinuses—I don’t think I could have quit. Talk about a handy aversive stimulus 🤧😵🤢
My daughter and her husband are millennials and this is what they do. They enjoy a cigarette with their beer out on their back porch in the summer/fall.
I was finally able to quit ten years ago after almost 20 years of failed attempts. The only thing harder for me is losing the weight I gained after quitting the cigs. Still struggling with that.
I'm weird when it comes to smoking. I've never really been a smoker despite having been around it my whole life. My grandparents smoked (not my parents though). My 2 best friends in high school smoked. College roommate did. I've had girlfriends who did. My wife (together 24 years) does. And yet I never really picked up the habit despite occasionally bumming one.
Once when I started grad school I decided to start smoking just as something to do to handle the stress. I smoked off and on for a year and then just quit, lost interest.
This past year I had a lot of stress and started bumming more off of my wife, but even still, I only smoke 3-4 cigarettes a week. When doctors ask me if I'm a smoker, I don't know what to say. I might say "a few per week" and they say "packs?" and I'm "no just a few cigs, 1 per day at most, often I'll skip a day". I don't even think they have a category for that.
I grew up in a smoking household. My mom, dad and grandmother smoked around me and I’m talking like more than a pack a day. How could I not get addicted? I have quit multiple times in my life, and even tried vaping. It’s like heroin. I’m in a smoking cessation program now and the little quit pens and lozenges don’t work. I’m hoping to try one of these new fangled options where there are no chemicals and it’s just like a pacifier. I eat healthy and exercise and walk all my steps. I’m tired of being judged. I think some compassion and non judgement goes a long way. My grandmother smoked 5 packs a day until she was 86 and passed. They picked her up in an ambulance to take her to hospice and the EMT said, do you smoke? She said, no. He said, when did you quit? She said, just now. 🤦🏻♀️
I had to ask 3 guys who were smoking in front of the door to our office building today to move out of the way. They were blocking the door and smoking. There’s a covered designate smoking area 30’ away. The one guy snidely replied , “thanks, bro!” So I told the guard to move them.
I smoke about a pack a day.
Last week some douch yelled with a maga phone " smoking's bad for your health" my response " pissing me off is bad for your health" he shut his window & drove off.
If I didn't have to deal with stupid everyday I probably wouldn't be smoking anymore.
I started at 13 and quit by vaping at 50. I still vape though and crave cigarettes. I was in Las Vegas last year and noticed people smoking in the casinos. I bought a pack and indulged for the few days I was there. Back to vaping.
I quit chewing almost 18 months ago and I still have horrible cravings at times. I've quit harder substances with less issues than nicotine. That is not to mention the number of times I've tried to quit and failed throughout my life.
I quit smoking about 18 months ago or so because I went through a lengthy hospitalization. I would be lying if I denied that I'm tempted to start again nearly every day and I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of time before I buy a pack of cigarettes
Idk either. It was cold Turkey & during Covid. Lost my first loved one and that’s just sparked me to stop. Wasn’t even 30 & she died from a PE / asthma attack. Devastating. Almost exactly 4 years ago.
She is missed dearly. Always in my memories & heart. There are days I do “things” just bc she can’t. (They can’t, I’ve lost a lot of loved ones to addiction) I have bad depression and when I don’t want to do anything, I think of them. And I get my ass moving. So they are here w me even though they are gone.
Quit in 99.... friends 'kidnapped' me for a long weekend w/o any access to money or cigarettes. Haven't touched one since. Can't stand the smell, and won't go into any establishment that still allows it.
I actually think it's kinda cool when a bar will allow folks to smoke inside since it is outlawed lol. But, I was never a big smoker, so I don't bear the scars.
My wife had an uncle that died from lung cancer. He came home from hospital after having half a lung removed and opened a pack of Marlborough. The addiction was so strong he couldn't break it. He died in hospice not long after that.
Says the person who goes out to eat consistently. Pack of cigarettes is cheaper than any fast food drive through. Which is horrendous on your arteries as well. Or perhaps you're the type who pounds sodas all day. Again, very expensive & unhealthy habit.
I'm in Australia. Cigarettes cost a shit load. Massive tax on them here. A carton of cigs is hundreds of dollars.
No, I don't eat out all time or drink fizzy.
I get 120 Kroger pods for 30 bucks. I do admit to being a coffee addict. I've cut back before, but I do enjoy it and it seems harmless. Caffiene doesn't have near the grip on people that nicotine does, which is weird because as far as I know, nicotine is completely harmless, it's the delivery method that kills people.
No. Tobacco is not harmless. Look at the people who pick it. https://www.osha.gov/green-tobacco-sickness#:~:text=What%20is%20Green%20Tobacco%20Sickness,symptoms%20including%20nausea%20and%20vomiting.
I was referring to the people who purchase coffee at coffee shops, not those who buy in bulk and drink at home.
Nicotine exposure from handling tobacco leaves may cause nicotine poisoning, also called Green Tobacco Sickness (GTS), with symptoms including nausea and vomiting
This is from the article I linked.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but the nicotine in the tobacco causes sickness. Chewing tobacco to get the nicotine is also not harmless. It's more that just the smoke.
Good job! Him, not so much. I don't have an addictive personality, so I don't get addicted to much, maybe just communicating with other people is my addiction.
Was recently at a poker party in a friend’s garage. Probably about 15 guys with at least 5-6(maybe more) of them chain smoking the whole time. I quit smoking 6 years ago, one of the best decisions I’ve ever made! But, when I walked in and saw the cloud of smoke I headed to the back of the garage where I thought it was a little better. I took one breath and it was like I took a drag from a cigarette and was totally disgusted. I then breathed shallowly for the rest of the night taking a few breaks from the garage. They had a window open with a fan but, it was not enough. When I left, I smelled like the disgusting ashtrays I used to fill up in my old vehicles. I immediately washed all of my clothes and my vehicle smelled for a few days afterwards. Worst drive home, as it was 20 degrees and had my windows down driving on the highway home. But, it was nice to get out and see old friends and actually socialize…at an expense.
Both my parents smoke(d) mom died of lung cancer nearly 20 years ago. Dad still smokes and coughs like crazy when he does so. They are the reason I never started smoking. It’s nasty and I always hated the smell.
I've never understood why anybody who grew up after the 60s would have started in the first place, as it's been well understood since then the problems it causes.
My grandparents smoked, and died younger than they could have because of it. My dad smoked up until I was a kid. He quit after grandpa lost one of his lungs to cancer and grandma got emphysema and spent the last years of her life hooked up to an oxygen tank.
So for me coming up in the 80s, it was pretty well understood that smoking was a harmful thing you don't want to get started on. It was more understandable for the boomers and their parents, but for the past half-century, it can't really be claimed that we didn't know better.
Being addicted is one thing, but the real question is why GET addicted in the first place?
I started smoking at around 12 and quit at 46 even though I had gone through periods of quitting and restarting in that time.
My father smoked until he died of esophageal cancer back in 2008.
I have not had a tobacco product in 12 years. I don't expect to ever smoke again.
I smoked cigs for over 20 years. Crack would likely have been the same amount of difficulty to quit. Nobody is like “I sure wish I could keep doing this stinky habit for life until my lungs turn black and then I get cancer and die.” So whenever anyone is like “why?” It seems super obvious why lol.
I finally quit using Chantix. It gave me insane hallucinations and dreams, but on the upside…trying to smoke makes me violently ill now, where I have to lay down and cannot move for like 20-30 minutes due to feeling horrific. So whatever black magic Chantix leaves in the brain receptors actually works, even if it’s not pretty!
To take the pain away? It seems folks can quit drinking (for short periods of time at least) much more readily than they can quit smoking. I get the addiction thing, but we have tools now to help with it, and the social stigma attached to smoking dwarfs any stigma (if there even is one) attached to drinking. In fact, we are encouraged to drink, if anything.
As a very intermittent smoker, I get really pissed off about habitual smokers who:
- smoke where they're not supposed to smoke, and spread their reek.
- dispose of butts out the window of their car, (and this is an Arizona thing) in the fucking desert during fire-season. (yeah, and fire-insurance companies are dumb for even doing business here).
Agreed, but that wasn't the original question. Littering and breaking laws/rules are bad. If someone follows them all, do we still care? I use to smoke, but did it with no one around and disposed of them properly.
I smoked off and on until I was about 40 and wasn't able to quit until it was banned in bars. The two things that kept me smoking were that everyone around me was still doing it, and I used it as a social anxiety crutch. it didn't occur it to me how much it helped with social anxiety until long after I quit.
Our generation will be the last ones to have a large percentage who smoked cigarettes thankfully. When I think of all the money I spent on cigarettes over my lifetime 🤯🤯
I miss smoking very intensely at times. Mostly I miss the ceremonial aspect of smoking, but occasionally I’ll pass by somebody smoking a cigarette, and then I’ll follow them like a stalker, trying to get a whiff of their second hand smoke. Hahaha.
I did that for a long time. The smell was so nice. It doesn't give me that feeling anymore, but I definitely remember feeling exactly the same as you're describing. I used to joke with people and tell them that I wish Yankee Candle would come up with a cigarette scent. lol
Ha! The stalking image is hilarious. I think smokers do have one thing going for them, that is the ceremony, you are spot-on. I asked my son why he chooses to smoke weed instead of taking edibles and he was like, "It's something to do." I get that, it does give you a community of like-minded people doing something together.
Simple in Canada. Know someone who sells native smokes. Smokes made on native reserves that are not legal to sell to us as they do, but happens all the time. TONS of people buy these. There's tons of different brands.
​
Regular pack of smokes in gas station = $18-20
Pack of native smokes = $4
​
The ones I get actually taste BETTER than government approved smokes.
I quit smoking regular cigarettes 20 years ago and started rolling my own. It took a few years, but I no longer crave a cigarette, I enjoy an occasional cigarette. I probably smoke about 4 a day. There is a rare occasion that I smoke a prerolled one, and I can't hardly finish it. They're nasty, and they stink
I don’t get it either. I smoked and stopped. My mom smoked and stopped a few times in her life. My aunt smokes like a chimney. She has multiple diseases that leave her disabled, one probably caused by smoking and the other made worse for it- she just cries about the diseases, but will not stop smoking. She had a heart scare last year and slowed down the smoking. As soon as she was cleared, she doubled up. It just seems like a total lack of effort to us.
Fuck those things. They had me for 30 years, the only addiction I’ve had.
It came down to a choice between HRT and smokes. Goodbye, smokes. It was so hard and one of the hardest and best things I ever did.
I quit “combustion” (cigs) about 15 years ago. Continued using vapes until about a year ago when I switched to using nicotine pouches.
I’m almost nicotine free.
IMHO it’s been incredibly difficult to give up nicotine entirely because it helps with my ADHD. Getting a rx for ADHD meds has been excruciatingly difficult.
> Nicotine acts through nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChRs) to alter firing rate of neurons throughout the brain, leading to addiction-related behaviors.
I just came inside from puffing down 2 super satisfying, delicious menthols. Seriously, tho I'm not at all ready to quit & won't even attempt it until I am because I'll just be setting myself up for failure. I've quit numerous other things that were horrible for me, so I'm sure one day I'll be able to quit cigs too, but today is not that day.
This is my experience: I am a sober alcoholic of about 19 years. Quitting smoking was much more difficult for me than quitting drinking. (Not that it was easy, but I did it.)
The cigarette/nicotine addiction is real.
I don't miss smoking at all. (Or drinking either)
The people I know: A very nice co-worker that does and sounds like she's about to collapse from walking to her car to the office.
My Father in law: Destroyed esophagus from years of smoking and booze. He's not even supposed to drink OJ, Coffee or Soda. Still smokes.
Sister: Fuck her. I home her lungs explode in slow motion.
I quit close to 20 years ago now. While I don't miss smoking I do miss reading physical books.
I would very often sit on my deck and read books while smoking, literally would do this for hours at a time. Unfortunately it's now quite difficult to just read a book because it was so complimentary to smoking.
Thankfully audiobooks don't have the same issue so I can still 'read'.
i will take a few drags... a whole cig is too much for me though..
it's like an herb. it does brain stuff
never really cared for them... nicotine seems to be real good when I am strung out tho... then they are good.
I keep a pack in a drawer for special occasions - like when I'm up late with buddies on a weekend listening to music. I like cigarettes. I'm not addicted and never have been. My wife and I both quit when we started trying for children - which was 20 years ago. Now I smoke maybe 1 pack per year in total (if that) on special occasions, or just when the spirit strikes me. It's enjoyable. I agree that addiction is a problem, but reducing all the reasons why billions of people around the world smoke to a single issue - addiction - is drastically simplistic.
I get that for a never-smoker it seems ridiculous - they're smelly awful death sticks, why would anyone do that to themselves? I'm not encouraging anyone to pick up the habit - surely you are better off without it. But for a former smoker, you don't need an addiction to enjoy an occasional stroll down memory lane.
Smoking is making a comeback big time. Partially this is because of the stupid anti-vaping laws. I’m sorry but vaping is much much much less dangerous than smoking (see the actual data). Now the kids are going to cigarettes again. Oy!
I saw a disturbing amount of cigarette smoking at a music festival a year or two before covid hit. There I was a 40 year old hitting a weed vape on the dancefloor while a bunch of 20 somethings preferred cigarettes. So weird.
I work with smokers. I can barely stand to be within ten feet of them. These aren’t young people, these folks have cigarette smoke in their bones, it’s part of their being. I actually think the scent of *fresh* smoke isn’t bad, however the scent of 50 years of smoking and questionable hygiene? Yikes.
848 Comments
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Vegaprime@reddit
EnvironmentalOne6412@reddit
MrsSadieMorgan@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
DecisionThot@reddit
VIJoe@reddit
just-regular-I-guess@reddit
capsaicinintheeyes@reddit
just-regular-I-guess@reddit
capsaicinintheeyes@reddit
swormer@reddit
arkham1010@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
CarlatheDestructor@reddit
jawshoeaw@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
7Aimee@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
ooone-orkye@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
FlawedWoman@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
FlawedWoman@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
OkAd6047@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
OkAd6047@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
Heterophylla@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
strangedazey@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
BarkusSemien@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
Realistic-Tone1824@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
LordVaklam@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
VerbalGuinea@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
cartoonchris1@reddit
Soulpatch7@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
125acres@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
shavenyakfl@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
meandhimandthose2@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
Sunnywaters75@reddit
JoyfulNature@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
JoyfulNature@reddit
TransitJohn@reddit
fullofsharts@reddit
JoyfulNature@reddit
fullofsharts@reddit
JoyfulNature@reddit
fullofsharts@reddit
MrsSadieMorgan@reddit
TransitJohn@reddit
fullofsharts@reddit
MrsSadieMorgan@reddit
JoyfulNature@reddit
TakkataMSF@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
americanbiru@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
ThisCorrosion@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
newsreadhjw@reddit
FlawedWoman@reddit
mike___mc@reddit
HPIndifferenceCraft@reddit
Monica21_@reddit
Scrapybara_@reddit
SeptemberSeahorse@reddit
NewCrayons@reddit
mtlaw13@reddit
Fatcatonlap@reddit
NewCrayons@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
Monica21_@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
shadyshadyshade@reddit
Tricky_Excitement_26@reddit
grrgrrtigergrr@reddit
J6602@reddit
Aggressive_Ad5115@reddit
AbhorrentBehavior77@reddit
genialerarchitekt@reddit
AbhorrentBehavior77@reddit
No_Plantain_4990@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
rewdea@reddit
twirlybird11@reddit
unreasonable_reasons@reddit
Tricky_Excitement_26@reddit
EnvironmentalOne6412@reddit
Tricky_Excitement_26@reddit
MissBoofsAlot@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
darkmatternot@reddit
ToughNarwhal7@reddit
darkmatternot@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
darkmatternot@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Finnyfish@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Tricky_Excitement_26@reddit
unreasonable_reasons@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
Tricky_Excitement_26@reddit
ToughNarwhal7@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
ButcherBird57@reddit
washington_jefferson@reddit
Horror_Ad_1845@reddit
Perfect_Chemist9412@reddit
JunoD420@reddit
Tricky_Excitement_26@reddit
Outside-Jicama9201@reddit
Patriotic99@reddit
neuroticsmurf@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Antina5@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
Antina5@reddit
MidnightAmethystIce@reddit
z44212@reddit
TheLurkerSpeaks@reddit
ChubbyStoner42@reddit
sunnybcg@reddit
Wormwood666@reddit
BuzzBabe69@reddit
wombatmagic@reddit
Happy_Frogstomp7@reddit
Wormwood666@reddit
MixtureEuphoric666@reddit
wombatmagic@reddit
capsaicinintheeyes@reddit
Administrative-Flan9@reddit
capsaicinintheeyes@reddit
Upset_Peace_6739@reddit
AbhorrentBehavior77@reddit
washie@reddit
Soulpatch7@reddit
mjh8212@reddit
hdckurdsasgjihvhhfdb@reddit
tmf_x@reddit
shaddupsevenup@reddit
slimwillendorf@reddit
teamalf@reddit
Caloso89@reddit
Sleeplessmi@reddit
spidermankevin78@reddit
candlegirlUT@reddit
mike___mc@reddit
candlegirlUT@reddit
Soulpatch7@reddit
Kodiak01@reddit
single_cell@reddit
Sawathingonce@reddit
ryubhjhdrgjjid@reddit
tragiquepossum@reddit
Chibadger@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
teamalf@reddit
holdstillitsfine@reddit
cybermage@reddit
ElliotNess@reddit
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
LeoMarius@reddit
MyriVerse2@reddit
19OregonTrailXer81@reddit
Dynamo_Ham@reddit
Turkey_gravy_on_meat@reddit
nekkid_farts@reddit
PM_MEOttoVonBismarck@reddit
nekkid_farts@reddit
PM_MEOttoVonBismarck@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
xX_olive_Xx@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Froopy-Hood@reddit
Congo404@reddit
describt@reddit
According-Training36@reddit
jncheese@reddit
MrsSadieMorgan@reddit
jncheese@reddit
just-regular-I-guess@reddit
jncheese@reddit
MissBoofsAlot@reddit
Surprise_Fragrant@reddit
MrsTruffulaTree@reddit
PaulClarkLoadletter@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Zivikins@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
Stupidsmartstupid@reddit
felesroo@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
Stupidsmartstupid@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
AbhorrentBehavior77@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
Creaulx@reddit
headzoo@reddit
Not_NSFW-Account@reddit
AbhorrentBehavior77@reddit
Real-Apartment-1130@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
SeedsOfDoubt@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Surprise_Fragrant@reddit
grrgrrtigergrr@reddit
90DayCray@reddit
Azanskippedtown@reddit
katemu8@reddit
capsaicinintheeyes@reddit
Infamous-Mountain-81@reddit
AbhorrentBehavior77@reddit
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
ParkMark@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
LeatherDude@reddit
sunny_gym@reddit
ToughNarwhal7@reddit
sunny_gym@reddit
BandOfBroskis@reddit
InterabangSmoose@reddit
teamalf@reddit
rec12yrs@reddit
KentuckyMagpie@reddit
JaneFairfaxCult@reddit
LeatherDude@reddit
oakmeadow8@reddit
Outside-Flamingo-240@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
LeatherDude@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
NotWorriedABunch@reddit
Flaxscript42@reddit
Yeeaaaarrrgh@reddit
Difficult-Brain2564@reddit
rec12yrs@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
oakmeadow8@reddit
SolutionExternal5569@reddit
ChubbyStoner42@reddit
Tomcat9801@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
Tomcat9801@reddit
TesseractToo@reddit
SchopenhauersSon@reddit
karenswans@reddit
transhumanist2000@reddit
ImRdyIllBeWaitn@reddit
Prestigious_Water336@reddit
Wonderful-Hall-7929@reddit
Chance-Chain8819@reddit
RavingNoah@reddit
bettesue@reddit
crs1904@reddit
ZarinaBlue@reddit
InevitableTension667@reddit
marcall@reddit
kamandamd128@reddit
UrbExInferis@reddit
One_Posh_Possum@reddit
jaesolo@reddit
JuicyApple2023@reddit
crissyb65@reddit
Daizzle-@reddit
OGINTJ@reddit
SilentSniper062@reddit
OccamsYoyo@reddit
Curvy_thing@reddit
Definitive_confusion@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
Definitive_confusion@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
Definitive_confusion@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
mjh8212@reddit
thejohnmc963@reddit
TurboCultist@reddit
VerbalGuinea@reddit
st-jeb@reddit
Salty-Entertainer-29@reddit
mcrib@reddit
BuzzBabe69@reddit
MsjennaNY@reddit
WildRed420_75@reddit
gamefaced@reddit
DepartureBusy777@reddit
DearWhisper1150@reddit
Youlookcold@reddit
BarkusSemien@reddit
Apprehensive_Row_807@reddit
sarahaswhimsy@reddit
One-Earth9294@reddit
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
deblllllll@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
katecrime@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
katecrime@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
Postcard2923@reddit
cityfireguy@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
Maison1984@reddit
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
Maison1984@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
iwery@reddit
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
PicklesAndCoorslight@reddit
Maison1984@reddit
zonicide@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
deblllllll@reddit
7Aimee@reddit
justonebiatch@reddit
7Aimee@reddit
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
Moveyourbloominass@reddit
katecrime@reddit
goombatch@reddit
smurfsm00@reddit
generic-ibuprofen@reddit
Jumpy_Tomatillo7579@reddit
Drhayseed@reddit
RockingFlower@reddit
dynamic_caste@reddit
77LS77@reddit
SquareExtra918@reddit
jebieszjeze@reddit
Worldly_Ask_9113@reddit
FlutterbyFlower@reddit
repomonkey@reddit
justonebiatch@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
onceinablueberrymoon@reddit
Real-Apartment-1130@reddit
Overall_Lobster823@reddit
Parabola2112@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
kalitarios@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Parabola2112@reddit
kalitarios@reddit
arbitraryupvoteforu@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Blue-Phoenix23@reddit
funkcatbrown@reddit
arbitraryupvoteforu@reddit
dinnerwdr13@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
dinnerwdr13@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
Lemonytea@reddit
BeachCocktails@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
BeachCocktails@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
BeachCocktails@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
BeachCocktails@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
BeachCocktails@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
Kimberkley01@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
Kimberkley01@reddit
Glittering_Net4992@reddit
Kimberkley01@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
AnarchiaKapitany@reddit
WillieOverall@reddit
ailish@reddit
trl718@reddit
Popcorn_Blitz@reddit
pear_ciderr@reddit
EnvironmentalOne6412@reddit
Popcorn_Blitz@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
WillieOverall@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
HairyHorseKnuckles@reddit
Surprise_Fragrant@reddit
sly-3@reddit
Jillredhanded@reddit
wifewantscake@reddit
linspurdu@reddit
beachpleazz@reddit
camergen@reddit
winelover08816@reddit
JungFuPDX@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
JungFuPDX@reddit
joefatmamma@reddit
betterthanbillgates@reddit
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Clean_Citron_8278@reddit
Alternative-Plenty-3@reddit
apikoros18@reddit
MizzTerrious@reddit
CrazyCatLadyRookie@reddit
Swim_swam303@reddit
swipeyswiper@reddit
Lynda73@reddit
Own-Capital-5995@reddit
rubiconmanlife@reddit
Surprise_Fragrant@reddit
rubiconmanlife@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
rubiconmanlife@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Upset_Peace_6739@reddit
watzrox@reddit
prissyknickers@reddit
Jeffrey-Schafer@reddit
L0renz0VonMatterhorn@reddit
thewhitebison@reddit
MmeNxt@reddit
N-shittified@reddit
MmeNxt@reddit
Rld7669@reddit
jawshoeaw@reddit
sassynickles@reddit
jawshoeaw@reddit
sassynickles@reddit
jawshoeaw@reddit
Live-Cat9553@reddit
unknowner1@reddit
StrawberryKiss2559@reddit
Akira75@reddit
Akira75@reddit
vixisgoodenough@reddit
ailish@reddit
Surprise_Fragrant@reddit
TokyoRachel@reddit
sly-3@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
TokyoRachel@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
TokyoRachel@reddit
ailish@reddit
TokyoRachel@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Clueless_in_Florida@reddit
Surprise_Fragrant@reddit
kat_Folland@reddit
916urbanfog@reddit
PushingData@reddit
DistinctTailor5937@reddit
Zanders2J@reddit
UnitGhidorah@reddit
TraditionalYard5146@reddit
UnitGhidorah@reddit
teamalf@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
CertainFitness@reddit
UnitGhidorah@reddit
pandemicblues@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
CertainFitness@reddit
SuzQP@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
SuzQP@reddit
CertainFitness@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
JonConstantly@reddit
longshotist@reddit
fmlyjwls@reddit
averyfinefellow@reddit
iminthecaravan@reddit
Puzzleheaded_Rub858@reddit
External_Low_7551@reddit
SuzQP@reddit
Walkertown5000@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Unfinished-symphony@reddit
dragonfliesloveme@reddit
Unfinished-symphony@reddit
ClmrThnUR@reddit
Artichokeydokey8@reddit
SuzQP@reddit
Electronic_Cow_7055@reddit
PVinesGIS@reddit
ToroTexan@reddit
PVinesGIS@reddit
fordyuck@reddit
itsamadmadworld22@reddit
4eva28@reddit
WillaLane@reddit
JeffTS@reddit
teamalf@reddit
chaoshaze2@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Albie_Tross@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Albie_Tross@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
olblll1975@reddit
Postcard2923@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
mitsubachi88@reddit
Ok-Vast167@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
chaoshaze2@reddit
Multiple__Sarcasms@reddit
SmellyBaconland@reddit
velvet42@reddit
smurfsm00@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
8888u8@reddit
SmellyBaconland@reddit
N-shittified@reddit
Alohadaze@reddit
TalkAcrobatic2628@reddit
systemfrown@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
systemfrown@reddit
MikeNunion@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
Kitten_K_@reddit
CertainFitness@reddit
MikeNunion@reddit
Dawn-of-the-Ginger@reddit
BourbonInGinger@reddit
Dawn-of-the-Ginger@reddit
BourbonInGinger@reddit
SomeCrazedBiker@reddit
Kitten_K_@reddit
elissapool@reddit
Jewzilla_@reddit
Old_and_Cranky_Xer@reddit
Etrigone@reddit
wishiwasyou333@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
wishiwasyou333@reddit
mickeysbeerdeux@reddit
craigechoes9501@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
craigechoes9501@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
Mercury_NYC@reddit
67alecto@reddit
AquaTealGreen@reddit
dezinerd@reddit
Puzzleheaded-One-319@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
Infamous-Mountain-81@reddit
medicmachinist38@reddit
Shferitz@reddit
whiteoakforest@reddit
Upstream_Paddler@reddit
MrsTruffulaTree@reddit
countdoofie@reddit
Pure_Literature2028@reddit
FauxRealsies@reddit
aarontsuru@reddit
iwery@reddit
aarontsuru@reddit
iwery@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
iwery@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
iwery@reddit
liddyloushysteria@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
liddyloushysteria@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
sharpbehind2@reddit
Prudent-Theory-2822@reddit
sharpbehind2@reddit
Prudent-Theory-2822@reddit
MonoBlancoATX@reddit
BuzzBabe69@reddit
Twin_spark@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Twin_spark@reddit
noquarter1000@reddit
workdistraction4me@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
defmacro-jam@reddit
TestUser254@reddit
kimbersill@reddit
vivsom@reddit
CautiousConch789@reddit
imalloverthemap@reddit
Wonder_Jen@reddit
ComprehensiveEbb8261@reddit
tracebusta@reddit
Hattkake@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
D33m0n533d@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
D33m0n533d@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
D33m0n533d@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
chikinpants@reddit
Lobotomist@reddit
GroupCurious5679@reddit
lirio2u@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
pertangamcfeet@reddit
RetroBerner@reddit
Reasonable_Smell_854@reddit
Marsupialize@reddit
Administrative-Flan9@reddit
BionicgalZ@reddit
happyunicorn77@reddit
abbablahblah@reddit
TropicFreez@reddit
kalitarios@reddit
melatonia@reddit
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
Lightningstruckagain@reddit
agent_tater_twat@reddit
realzoidberg@reddit
bourahioro77@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
bourahioro77@reddit
BrandX77@reddit
Lilredh4iredgrl@reddit
sundry_banana@reddit
Neat-Composer4619@reddit
xmo113@reddit
BuckyD1000@reddit
Complete_Hold_6575@reddit
motorik@reddit
Victor3000@reddit
Wonderful_Pain1776@reddit
HeftySchedule8631@reddit
ChristinaWSalemOR@reddit
Inner-Management-110@reddit
Artichokeydokey8@reddit
bibdrums@reddit
Inner-Management-110@reddit
LeatherDude@reddit
Inner-Management-110@reddit
LeatherDude@reddit
Inner-Management-110@reddit
N-shittified@reddit
Inner-Management-110@reddit
Ok-Banana-7777@reddit
godsim42@reddit
CatW804@reddit
BIGepidural@reddit
90sGuyKev@reddit
sgw79@reddit
nonameforyou1234@reddit
brooklynbotz@reddit
govnah06@reddit
ImaBird-Fish@reddit
elijuicyjones@reddit
_Sasquatchy@reddit
Accomplished_Role977@reddit
texasslapshot@reddit
HowToNotMakeMoney@reddit
Flaxscript42@reddit
bennicholas216@reddit
Narrow-Fortune-7905@reddit
acab415@reddit
BrokeDownPalac3@reddit
Suspicious-Stay-6474@reddit
keldration@reddit
tempo1139@reddit
MephistoPhoenix@reddit
HJHmn@reddit
BourbonInGinger@reddit
Whitworth@reddit
aging_genxer@reddit
BourbonInGinger@reddit
TheRateBeerian@reddit
flashlightbugs@reddit
Angrykittie13@reddit
McPorkums@reddit
LeoMarius@reddit
Dhampri0@reddit
daphuqijusee@reddit
katecrime@reddit
TraditionalYard5146@reddit
katecrime@reddit
BrandX77@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
cbatta2025@reddit
Zeeker12@reddit
katecrime@reddit
earinsound@reddit
Jwheat71@reddit
BigMoFuggah@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Ohigetjokes@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
Ohigetjokes@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
da_london_09@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
da_london_09@reddit
dragonfliesloveme@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
BizBerg@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Padwanna68@reddit
BlueDotty@reddit
Moveyourbloominass@reddit
BlueDotty@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
DrGoManGo@reddit
BlueDotty@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
olblll1975@reddit
DrGoManGo@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
DrGoManGo@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
DrGoManGo@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Tensionheadache11@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
Gamagatsu74@reddit
SATXS5@reddit
-jdtx-@reddit
smurfsm00@reddit
neveroddoreven415@reddit
keepcalmdude@reddit
katemu8@reddit
cityfireguy@reddit
yangstyle@reddit
AXLPendergast@reddit
accidental-like@reddit
Craig1974@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
unobitchesbetripping@reddit
RektFreak@reddit
N-shittified@reddit
RektFreak@reddit
CertainFitness@reddit
RektFreak@reddit
Eriaus@reddit
Simone812@reddit
Exotic_Zucchini@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
SmooveTits@reddit
Ok-Vast167@reddit
SmooveTits@reddit
Empty-Back-207@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
RunningPirate@reddit
LiquoredUpLahey@reddit
stirred-and-shaken@reddit
WinterBourne25@reddit
vitalsguy@reddit
Icy-Read6024@reddit
olblll1975@reddit
emmiblakk@reddit
danceswithsockson@reddit
MiasmAgain@reddit
Jeebusmanwhore@reddit
SausageSmuggler21@reddit
pear_ciderr@reddit
KurtAZ_7576@reddit
Swimming-Fan7973@reddit
meekonesfade@reddit
aunt_cranky@reddit
covenkitchens@reddit
7Aimee@reddit
BrandX77@reddit
Azanskippedtown@reddit
The68Guns@reddit
GuitarEvening8674@reddit
JakkSplatt@reddit
olblll1975@reddit
biskino@reddit
rcook55@reddit
amprok@reddit
Uunbeliever72@reddit
caryn1477@reddit
MyTeaWhy@reddit
fuzzydaemon@reddit
illegalt3nder@reddit
kokomundo@reddit
Dynamo_Ham@reddit
RunningPirate@reddit
Jairlyn@reddit
Parabola2112@reddit
AmplifiedClyde@reddit
Blovesmusic@reddit
bigmistaketoday@reddit (OP)
No_Adhesiveness_8207@reddit
Bob-Dolemite@reddit
fridayimatwork@reddit
Tokogogoloshe@reddit