OP isn't wrong here. This is 100% fact. I hope there’ll come a day when everyone on Earth realizes this before there’s no humanity left to realize anything.
WE’RE all God embodied in human form. YOU are the one universal consciousness that is all of reality expressing itself from the perspective of a human vehicle, one of billions of vehicles through which this universe experiences itself. YOU are not separate from anything else that exists.
Cribbed from Martin Ball, Ph.D.
If anyone cares to learn more, you can listen to/read his audiobook/book, Entheogenic Liberation.
It takes a lot more work than these subs suggest. Boring work, over years. Mindfulness meditation is a place to start, and remember you're not trying to *go* anywhere. It all exists within you
God multitasks, there are many reasons God is running so many simulations, but the most overlooked reason for all of THIS; God gets bored and lonesome and “this earth ride” is what entertains god.
I wish to be here, the game is easy to work,
Here is a hack: get a friend (BFF), decide together what you two will do (goal like $$$$$, physical things in a material world please) now use law of attraction together, exponentially more powerful than one, have seen work fast will make head spin. Warning you are now entangled or connected with your (BFF) do not know how to untangle, murder/suicide not even free you be careful, but getting our girl back home was worth everything (not just anything, for her I would give it all) It has to mean that much to both of you.
The realization dawns upon consciousness that, “I am God.” This is precisely why Christ equated Himself with the Father, because He was innately aware that He is the Father — He is God, of which we all are — His principal teaching. This understanding is paralleled in Exodus 3:14 when Moses asks God for His Name and God replies, “I am that I am.” That is, “I am that which I am – the Universe.” This tautology is also found in the Hindu Vedas (the Chandoyga Upanishad 6.8.7) as “tat tvam asi,” which translates to “thou art that.” Truly, you are this, the Universe – God.
Your speculations are easily dismantled. Jesus is one with father because he’s one of the three persons of the God head. We are not Jesus therefore we are not within the Godhead thus we are not Gods. However we are made in image of God but that’s entirely different than being God.
Your speculations are also easily dismantled, the bible was written by man, not god, and it's a story book that relies on allegory. None of it is real anyways.
The only thing one should take away from the bible is any of the stories that are trying to provide one with a good moral compass, and we should all forget the vast amount of antiquated bullshit written on those pages.
You display an incredible lack of understanding. Allow me to educate you.
The Bible was written by men yes; men under the inerrant guidance of the Holy Spirit. This is evidenced by:
The Bible is most accurate historical and prophetic document in the history of the universe. The probability of a conspiracy to write a series of books which cross reference each other 1000s of times, and accurately told the future over 800 times, in which their were 40 different authors, most of which did not live at the same time, separated from beginning to end by 1500 years, is 0. Not only that but it’s also the most forensically backed book in human history with over 20,000 manuscripts; no other ancient historical text comes close. It takes much more faith to be an atheist or a part of any other religion due to the fact that the evidence for the Bible being true towers above any other worldview. The mathematical probality of it being a fabrication is a quite literally 0.
I don't think YOU understand how the bible was written and rewritten,or constructed, and reconstructed, over and over. By men, not under the guidance of your "holy Spirit"
False, due to the fact that we have 20,000 manuscripts (which is far more than any historical document) we can determine whether the Bible has been changed. From the earliest manuscripts to the newest, they are exactly the same, not a single change. Educate yourself before you make such u founded claims.
Except that's not true at all. There are multiple different CURRENT versions of the bible depending on what sect of Christianity you subscribe to, and on top of that, over the years that this bible has existed, there have been many different translations made, and then that is retranslated as years go on and language changes, and on top of THAT, humanity has been around for closer to 11,000 years and not the Bible's supposed few thousand, so it's already inaccurate.
And as an aside, the people who wrote the books within the bible originally stole allegorical tales from other religions, paganism, Egyptian, middle Eastern, etc, and co-opted those stolen tales for their own purposes.
As for it being a historical document, what fucking year is it that this kind of religious zealotry is still in full force?? You don't have any kind of your own proof, you're just spouting shit you've been fed, probably by your parents and the church. People who are using a control system to control you. Surprise.
Yes there are different translations of the same source documents. We are not talking about translations we are talking about original manuscripts never being changed. Of course there will be multiple translations the source texts are in different languages. And there’s not an equivalent word for every word across languages so different translations may use slightly different words or phraseologies.
You claimed the stories in the Bible were stolen yet provided no evidence.
I cited multiple statistical facts proving the Bible to be historically 100% accurate and you did not dismantle any of my evidence.
You are attacking a straw man whom does not exist. I was an agnostic, I was not raised by Christian parents. The evidence led me to Jesus.
They certainly dont understand how probablility works...
Hey we got a real statistics major here...hey man dont wanna burst your bubble but if the probablility of something happening is zero, it does not happen. So the probablility had to have been at least a little, that's just how science works, it adapts with our understanding of the facts.
We are talking about the probability of it happening being zero IF there are no metaphysics involved in the creation of the Bible, thus my point stands that the Bible is infallible shown by mathematics and many other proofs.
Read again. I cite the statistics and mathematical probability. Jesus alone fullfilled 300 of the 800 + prophecies which have come true. Some of these being 1500 years before being fulfilled.
John 3:15 “that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.” He is saying we all all the same, Jesus, god and each one of us.
Y’all really need to read the og bible before the church decided what was and wasn’t “canon”. It is very in line with the commentor above has stated. http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
False he is not saying he is the father, he is saying he is in perfect unity with the father. He is not saying we are him, he is saying if we repent of our sins and abide in Jesus then we will be in perfect unity with God. Two entirely different realities…
Jesus also asserted that the kingdom of God or heaven is not a place or space one can enter. The kingdom of God is inside each person. We are all able to attain godlyness. It's inside of us and we must seek it out
You all are as gullible as Eve when she was deceived by Lucifer in Eden when he said: you shall be gods. Repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins or else pay for them yourselves for eternity separated from God and therefore every good comfort and pleasure.
Enlighten me, what are some of the horrors that the most high holy God has carried out. There is none, God can not do evil, then he would not be God. God defines right and wrong we are fallible thus we don’t have that power.
It is this very same way of thinking you are expressing that lead to Jesus being cruficied in the first place for revealing just Who He is. There is no one way but thru the acceptance of the All for what it is; to say that His only begotten Son is THE only conduit, is to fall prey to the kind of celebrated ignorance you warn of.
Jesus gave himself up to be killed. He is God he knew what would happen. Do you think he was ignorant of the 100s of prophecies written up to a 1500 years before he fulfilled them all? No God willfully became man and died as a sacrifice for our sins to take the wrath of God which all huamnity deserved for rebellion against our creator. If you repent and follow Jesus you recieve this sacrifice resulting in forgiveness and being born again into a new person.
He taught that thru knowledge and awareness of oneself, you may act on and be who you truly are; that being of God — with love.
You may consider His death suicide, of course; the irony being, again, that by revealing oneself as such, that is a crime.
It sure as hell seems to be offputting to you; to say — to consider — that man may become as God thru knowledge and action.
Power seems externalized to you; whereas via consciousness, it lies within your very hands. I beseech you to look beyond the Grand Director to consider the direction that you yourself take. To shut anyone out is to miss the point entirely and no beaten-path collective can shake one's own direct relation to the unified Prescence that occasionally stirs us.
You clearly demonstrate you have no knowledge of who Jesus Christ is. I don’t know who you’re talking about but Jesus didn’t tell people to be who they are but to deny themselves take up your cross and follow me.
Yes, take up thy cross because the end is imminent; "this generation shall not pass" — apocalyptic prophet and fulfilment achieved.
Fear of God is as perennial as it gets.
As a Christian, you are a big reason why our religion gets a bad name. You are misinterpreting the texts and trying to push your misinformed beliefs on others.
Why not? You are a piece of him. Heaven is going to”back to God”. He made us from Him so we **are** him/her/omnipotent being. Plenty of people who have NDE’s are told exactly this - look for yourself www.nderf.org.
Red & blue make purple. Red is NOT purple though and neither is blue. Being a PART of God does not make you GOD the almighty. We are part of God bc we are living & God is the epitome of life. I find it disrespectful to equate sinful humans with God. I’ve done nothing to earn that title & none of us can take on that responsibility either. God is one entity and we are his children. Similar to the color analogy, my son is a PART of me but he is not ME. Only I am me. To say otherwise is your own philosophy. That commenter isn’t wrong bc they rejected someone else’s belief as it refers to them.
Did I say that were wrong? There are other types of beliefs that could be equally right though? Christ consciousness is a thing - we all can be Jesus if we follow the Bible. Equally we all have the spark of Buddha in us. Why would an omnipotent being create something so inferior and so likely to cause suffering all around? For the chance to learn and be better. Why would you need to have your creation learn and be better? Because you are trying to understand your own nature as the omnipotent being. This is just one way of looking at God and to millions of other people on this planet just as valid a view as your own interpretation.
If it makes you angry how other people see God then maybe your faith isn’t so firm.
yes, we are all partitioned aspects of the one true consciousness called god. for some reason people think this knowledge = enlightenment but even though i think it's probably true i also think it's kinda fucking meh. the answer to the greatest riddle that is existence is we are all one and that's hella lame
You are a part of god- his creation. Using an example i’ve seen before; Shakespeares characters from his stories are an extension of Shakespeare- his creation. However, they are not Shakespeare himself. Within each of them exists a part of him, but do not encompass him as a whole
When the Bible says that man was created in God's image, it doesn't mean we physically resemble god. It means that our consciousness is our connection to God, its what makes us God like.
Every living being is an extension of what most believe god as an individual is.
Me and you for example but the ego and individualism takes us further from realizing you are god and so am i.
Interconnected like a universal wifi signal perhaps. But for those who can connect.
So to speak playing hide and seek with each other. But really every living thing is god in physical form to experience literally everything.
From the worst hate and purest love.
I actually had this exact epiphany during a hypoglycemic episode. Long story short I felt myself getting pulled out of the simulation and it scared me, so I consciously decided to continue existing in blissful ignorance. The alternative was eternal loneliness and boredom.
I felt I got a "message" on shrooms, once. I was shown the eternal loneliness of being alone. It was like being in a cave alone forever, painting the most beautiful paintings and making the most amazing music, but knowing you'd never be able to share them with others.
Felt like this was an explanation given to me for why we exist. Felt like God wanted other consciousnesses to share eternity with, to experience its art, the universe. Fun time.
I had a trip like this on ketamine too. It was very vivid, and not very nice. I don't like ketamine. The feeling of being utterly alone, all that exists, was quite upsetting at the time.
This is my understanding as well. God lives vicariously through our experiences. I imagine once we die, God allows us to decide what to do next. Free will. God does not intervene with us while we are in this temporary illusion because that would essentially be an acknowledgement of the fact that we are not truly separate beings. Just God in denial that he is a puppet master. So long as God does not break the sanctity of free will, we truly are separate from God while still being connected. There are likely other sentient beings in the universe or other dimensions that believe the illusion of reality is cruel, and so they attempt to intrude on the illusion and make us aware. It's kind of a shitty thing to do, not only because they would be incapable of perceiving the totality of everything as God would, but it also corrupts the system which God built. Then suffering arises.
So for any beings that have intervened with the natural progression of planet Earth, I always say they are like a shitty older sibling who is hell bent on telling the younger sibling that Santa isn't real. They think they are doing the younger sibling a favor. They are not. I miss being a young kid who can barely sleep the night before Christmas morning. I crave that illusion all the time. That is true magic. The illusion we live in is a gift if we allow it to be.
So you mean I had this epiphany during a hypoglycemic episode.
I mean this in a facetious way, but that's how the logic would work. I believe in god from the Holy Bible, no hate to you or anyone else's thoughts on the matter though!
What you are describing sounds like this unique story I heard from a Kurzgesagt video I watched called (I believe) "The Egg" it was pretty interesting. So are other thoughts involving existence like Last Thursdayism, Mudflood, directed panspermia etc.
It sounds a bit vain and self-centered but during the experience it felt like "I" was the only being in existence, for whatever "I" actually means. It still isn't clear to me how other people figure into the equation, but I suspect it's like how the previous commenter said, where we are all shards of the same universal being just pretending to be different people for the sake of the illusion.
True. By extension, can you or I really exist if we accept that the illusion of separation is a byproduct of the ego, which is itself illusory? There can be no me, or you. There is only everything. Always and everywhere.
Mind is a scalpel, it can only make sense of the world it projects by cutting/dividing/separating/collapsing wavefunctions into observables. Heart is what brings things back together into superposition.
Well to me god as an individual is just a blanket religious people throw over the unknown to give it shape and feel satisfaction. Emotional insecurity in a way. Im not saying you’re wrong in any way tho
Ok thanks for clearing that up. But that’s not really the case, maybe to *some* but i get your point. It’s the foundation of thinking into knowing who/what God is. That’s the difference between the guy you quoted and religion, it takes far more faith and belief than being as simple as your take. Hence why I said you can’t manifest too much power while being to self aware. Can’t be outside and within at once from our state.
Alan is a deist while most religious theologist are pantheist. It’s fun to debate about
Essentially to be able to exist and grow and learn and have novel experiences God created the universe which spawned intelligent life. And that intelligent life doesn't know it's God. God is hidden in everything. Everything is part of God's consciousness made material. So God without it's memory of itself is now seeking itself out. While also hiding from itself.
I get it but it doesn’t make sense if heaven existed before all of it with intelligent angels that also were aware of God… it’s a fun thought at first but after a while it just becomes a root thought. The meaning, and the guy who said it wasn’t very heuristic… Were an image of God like Ambassadors. That’s a whole other discussion though this isn’t the right sub for all that.
I believe God is both a conscious entity and an ethereal force. I believe that there is a Godhead like Vishnu in Hinduism. A supreme source and final destination encompassing the totality of it all while simultaneously experiencing it from with, often unaware that it is essentially everything. A part of everything. So the Holy Spirit or Gods presence in our lives breaks down similarly to the Force from Star Wars. “It is in all living things, It surrounds us, binds us, penatrates us, luminous beings are we” and this is echoed in many eastern beliefs centered around nature or even benevolent spirits.
G.O.D is basically:
G- genuine goodness, generosity, gold, gems, glitter, G-funk, genius
O- omnipotence, omnipresence, overwhelming, opulent, outstanding
D- Discipline, Deliverence, Dedication, Devotion, Development, DMT, Divinity
That being said…
There could be an infinite amount of layers to the existence or consciousness that God permeates and some esoteric beliefs claim to show these layers. Similar to Greek mythology how Titans created Gods and Gods created Man. That concept could totally exist and we would be none the wiser, and GOD would be reflected in every layer. And the implications of this become wild when you look at what we create. We create entire worlds, universes and franchises in “the 2nd dimension” on a flat screen or on a page. We play games that exist in the “3rd dimension”
There are many schools of thought that suggest that consciousness with the added experience of time is the 4th dimension. The 5th is what a lot of people call the astral plane or “the dmt dimension”
I believe that God permeates all of these in the same way. Like the Force, or the concept that “all creation sings the glory of GOD”
So technically, you created you created you created you created you and so on. And it can vary or change or break but it will always return because it is what the universe is. And the original totality of everything is reflected in each piece. Which means that love, for example, can be inter-universally understood. So technically, a higher being could’ve designed us, and then in turn, we design characters in our own image. What concept does Luke Skywalker have of George Lucas? Or like of a VHS tape? And he literally has just as many people believing in him as any religious figure, all of which claim that faith and believing something achieves it and manifests it. So is Luke Skywalker real on some other plane? How would you know? He does experience the common denominators of our lives tho, via the hero’s journey. And George Lucas very clearly made him in his own image, maybe not in looks or lore, but in heart and soul. It is literally the exact same process of a GOD like diety creating man in his own image to go forth and experience the wonder of his creation and fulfill his good work upon this earth. As is any character. And so this applies to us, and many writers claim that they let their characters write their own story. That a writer puts a piece of themselves into a character who then comes to life and enacts the will of the creator. And the will of God in the writers life is reflected in the characters life and so on and so forth.
So… I believe all of it is real. And the biblical descriptions of our creation combined with ancient creation myths across the globe equal something akin to a more benevolent version of Prometheus by Ridley Scott. But God/ Vishnu/ Alah/ El Shadai is real regardless and encompasses it all. The beginning and the end. The Alpha and the Omega. The LORD of all creation.
I saw rhe 10,000 Days version completely sober. I was (assuming) halfway between awake and asleep. Any amount of directed attention or focus ruined the image.
theres many such fun thought experiments.
every human(or anything really) is at the center of their own (observable) universe, each one slightly different than the others. sure they are effectively the same, but theres a tiny difference nontheless.
but thats just how reality works out, non of that mystical nonsense people try to make it out to be.
Yes everyday and it’s clear looking at the evil in the world that we are infallible fallen humans not Gods. However it is well known in phycology that phycadelics have a tendency to induce similar god complex delusions across the board. Yes phycadelics can change lives and teach you things, because it opens a door to the spiritual world including fall angels the Christ of whom is Satan along which demons to deceive you in your delusional state, which is why many people who have took phycadelics become involved in new age spirituality
youre completely misunderstanding what this idea comsiders 'god' to be, it's god as a single poinf of awareness from which consciousness in all things arises, not god as in the all powerful dictator, its a pantheistic idea of god not the abrahamic one, im not claiming to be all powerful, and you've just revealed to me that you believe in actual nonsense- satan, angels, the abrahamic bullshit which sows division, you completely dont understand the idea this post presents because you're so warped by biblical nonsense. think more buddha- we only exist within our own minds, nonduality and ego is an illusion, and thats what i mean, if you actually care for the truth of reality,,, or stay wrapped up in youre delusion your choice lol
Your speaking of the philosophy of the sum of everything in universe itself being god. That’s not what God is, God is a being. You cited no logic or evidence that this is reality therefore what you Beleive is a fantasy or myth if it can’t be proven by logic and evidence.
youve not cited any logic or evidence either😂 we are arguing over two things which neither of us can prove, and who are you to say what god is or isnt? if god is a singular being then where is it? what evidence have YOU got of god?
Did you not read anything in the original post I cited a slooth of proven statistics. Are you a relativist, of course one can prove something to be true or not? I have provided evidence that proves the Bible is 100 percent true you have provided none to the contrary not disputed mine therefore you don’t have any argument founded in reality, you just have an opinion.
the bible does have accurately recorded history within it, but again that doesnt make it magical, the multitude of aithors saying the same story can be explained by them essentially plagiarising the earlier version of the story and telling it as their own, nothing magical about that and where has it told the future? thats just ridiculous, and stating that it does without evidence isnt proof in itself, prove it! i was born and raised as a catholic and attended a catholic school, i did read the bible in school, i wasnt convinced. and what about all the inaccuracies in the bible? the fact that evolution is provable but if you go by the word of the bible it cant be😅 jesus turned water into wine and fed 1000s with a fish and loaf of bread? what? just a nonsense story with no backing. you havent provided any evidence atall youve just made massive baseless claims about your belief but belief is different to knowledge, muslims would say the same thing about their quran and the jews their torah, but the bible is the one true word of god so you say... ok mate
You clearly have no understanding, are we talking about Fisher? I already told her that like three weeks ago yeah why I told her you haven’t told her anything different about other situation with other other.
just to add, the whole core belief of this 'we are all god' idea is to spread love and aim to end all suffering, how does that match up with you claim that its so called 'satan' deceiving us? everyone of us who has came to this conclusion through either psychedelics/or natural ways like meditation (i came across it acidentally through psychedelics personally was a complete atheist before) and has experienced ego death, have realised we are all one 'thing', and that the one truth that needs to be spread is love, because if we are all this one thing then we suffer at our own hands- if everyone adopted this one philosophy to treat everyone with love and to ease suffering wherever we can then there would be world peace! there is no corruption in this belief so explain to me where satan fits in? why would satan be telling us this? it seems to me that people who believe in the more traditional abrahamic religions are the ones who are spreading hatred and judgment on others, fighting eachother and they never came to these conclusions themselves, they followed the teachings of a source outside of themself- the bible, quran, torah, various religious 'scholars',,, this knowledge that i came across came purely from within, noone told me what to believe it was just a realisation. food for thought
theres no evidence to dismantle, i havent got any evidence to out forth to you but atleast i can admit that😂i think its you thats waffling on, but your mind is made up, keep praying to your magical dictator if it makes you happy, appeasing the narcissistic imaginary king and its arbitrary rules,,, and ill carry on easing the suffering the world in what little ways i can because that is my belief of what our purpose is, as god manifest, hopefully you wake up one day
Here was the other part of my post from higher up on the forum.
You all are as gullible as Eve when she was deceived by Lucifer in Eden when he said: you shall be gods. Repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins or else pay for them yourselves for eternity separated from God and therefore every good comfort and pleasure.
Sounds like this sub needs to stay off the drugs, everyone is schizophrenic and delusional.
Interesting we’ve got a bunch of illogical egomaniacs here. Let’s see if any of you are god.
1. Are you morally perfect; or have you done evil whether stealing a piece of gum or having sex before marriage? No, there is no perfect human.
2. Are you omnipresent, all knowing, or all powerful? No, you are restrained to the 4th dimension and know nothing compared to all there is to know.
3. Are you timeless: uncreated and eternal? No all of us were born and all of us will die and after that we will have to stand before our creator to give an account for all that we have done.
Now that we have established that no human is God it is clear that anyone who claims to be God is:
1. Deceived by fallen angels the chief of whom is Satan.
2. Delusional with a narcissistic mental disorder.
It’s telling that you all are in error due to the sheer lack of any logic supporting your egregious claim to Godhood. If you have faith in yourself as God and know all why can’t you use your infinite knowledge to educate a mortal like me.
And if you are indeed Gods why don’t you remain in constant health, would a God not have the power to heal his own wounds for he is not bound by the laws of the physcial realm?
Interesting, I am quite perplexed, all this evidence will take eons to sort out in my mind.
youre still not getting what this belief i talk about considers god, we are god manifest in the physical realm, constrained to the laws of the physical world, but our innate purest self, the awareness from which consciousness arises is the source, it is god, an easier way to put it would be we as individuals are gods sensory organs that allow it to BE, manifested physically, and heres some proof of our godly power; together we have changed our landscape to suit our needs, extracted energy to manipulate the world around us, we can edit genes and create unique lifeforms, split atoms and created elements that do not arise naturally without our influence, we can prolong our life by interpreting the bio-chemistry of our body and creating medicines and complex medical procedures, stem cell manipulation to regrow limbs, the longer we exist the more godly things we can do, if we survive long enough and do not extinct ourselves we will probably build a dyson swarm and have unlimited energy from the sun and then we will truly be unlimited in our capabilities. a god, fractured into infinite pieces, that must learn to work as one to achieve omnipotence in the physical world,,, and this idea of pulling ourselves together and working as one must be done through love, social awarness and treating eachother as part of the one being that we really are,,, individuality was useful up to a point but now its a hinderence because there are malevolent forces that have divided us and made us feel we are alone by manipulating our ego but the ego is just an illusion, if you lose the ego you still continue to exist, you are not your ego you are the awareness beyond it,
a metaphor i use is that god is a being with a billion hands and on each hand is a sock puppet, the puppets represent us as the individual personality, god is moving the mouths and making the puppets converse with eachother, a massive puppet show, but hes got too into character and the puppets think they are who they are pretending to be, completely forgetting its just a show and there is a greater awareness behing it all
Meditating while completely sober revealed this to me (never tried hallucinogens in my life) and I get called equally as crazy. They'll learn when they die. Leave them be if they don't wanna shift their perspectives.
i know i know i shouldnt press, let them realise naturally if at all. its just that its so obvious to me now! and the more i research this stuff- ego death and non duality, i see that all of us who have had an ego death experience come to the same realisation, the exact same realisation, all on our own without reading it from an old religious book but simply from within ourselves no outside influence telling us what to think. it is so clearly the one truth i feel the need to profess it, but i guess you cant explain colour to the blind- theyve gotta figure it out for themself. peace be with you 🌟
I’ve had experience with hallucinogenic substances for a handful of years now to help me through PTSD and depression so I am familiar with this state of mind. It may be scary at first some to experience for the first time but I find it a way for someone to grow within themselves. I don’t find it dangerous one bit but it’s not for everyone, especially with people who deal with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder
>Are you saying that breathe work can make you be in the same state as taking hallucinations inducing drugs? What type and how
Breathe work by inhaling DMT.
They don’t make it false either. I don’t really see any reason to contest their viewpoint. Life in itself is a pretty spectacular mystery without any alterations.
That's just the illusion of ego. You aren't breaking anything to me, even many people who have NDEs with their brain activity almost completely stopping experience that realization because the brain filters consciousness through the brain and when that connection is broken, you're forced to face reality.
It's you who thinks you're right. It sounds like you simply haven't accessed the altered states of consciousness that convince people of it. That's it.
Your entire belief system boils down to fallen angels deceiving humans through altered states, mushrooms, dmt, hidden knowledge etc there is some truth mixed in with some lie in order to lead you astray into damnation. That's how it works
You are neither God nor are you everything, regardless of what a machine elf may have told you when you were tripping balls.
What is a big revelation for you, might not be for the next person
Crack on
What would you be if you had no ego and no sense of self? Can you answer that? You sound like you've fallen for some religious dogma that teaches people that finding their true selves is bad.
Study Hinduism. Specifically their concept of Brahman. Consider an infinite universe. Meditate on the consequences of a universe eternal in time and infinite in space. Truly INFINITE.
Realize that all is the same. All is divine. We ARE the universe. COME TO LIFE. QUESTIONING ITSELF.
I’m not disagreeing—I was a psychonaut for a few years in my 30s. And that certainly helped start to change my programmed life view. But my greatest insights have come while meditating.
Had my first experience basically seeing this "infinite loop" me and a friend were watching George Carlin after taking a handful of shrooms. First my vision got a bit fuzzy but still clear, then I laughed at a joke and looked back just to see infinite geometry perfectly aligned on screen.
Was a fantastic time, my stomach still hurts from how much we laughed
# All that exists is the will to manifest and the power to do so
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Some one had asked what people thought the aether was, which i was shown in the seat of creation vision in 1996 (posted here a couple times). I saw consciousness at what i think was infinite speeds slowing to become energy/ vibration and charge also a color element and more, but from the pre string pre material slowing each minute aspect was its own individual consciousness, and via sacred agreement with other strings became particles and atoms and cells and objects.
That pre-formative / formative state is called the aether by our current understanding. it is simply the will to engage in sacred agreements that is joyfully manifest as all things by the power of God most high.
our role in that is Godhood over the 27 nonillion atoms that make up our bodies and the seemingly incalculable amount of 'substring will' to manifest as our bodies, as our mirror image is the very same as God most high containing a realm of subtatomic will to manifest.
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weve Got 27 nonillion atoms God most high has like pachow!!! anyone even want to try to guess how many sub string will to manifest there are?! plus we are only expressing through that forces power to manifest, but as above so below like Jesus exemplified we do have the capacity to do a lot more once we understand the nature of things.
I missed the show in Denver, I’m working up here and I had to be on call. Lateralus is my favorite of their albums, it kinda makes me feel better that I didn’t miss that at least lol
Horrible. I’ve been clean for 4 years, will never touch drugs again. It opened a bad door for me, had a lot of visits from shadow people after. I took it during the darkest time of my life. I did lots of psychedelics and nothing prepared me for dmt
i’m 1 year sober and psychedelics (specifically psilocybin, maybe dmt) is something i’ve left potential room for in the future. i never took them when i was using. the only psych i did was salvia. but i am nervous about the thought, i just really don’t know what the experience was like but from what i’ve researched it doesn’t seem likely it would make me more likely to want to abuse it/my old other drug habits. i have clear intentions that it would be for spiritual/mental health reasons. do you think (from your experience) this is flawed thinking?
Congrats on getting sober! Personally I feel like it opens up the floodgates to addiction again. But perhaps it depends on the person. I can have a drink every now and then, and some people can’t. 1 year of sobriety is still very fresh, so be careful. For me, doing mushrooms would trigger my want for cocaine again, because I would do them together.
I never had that anxiety. Never had a bad trip on shrooms actually. It was when I started doing coke by itself all the time that my life took a turn. But it’s all behind me now.
You have to be in a good place and frame of mind, with an intention before doing any psychedelics. Still it could go bad but slot less likely if you go into it full of love and happiness
It can be/hit really hard. Was there, had to learn it really fast...but then i realized like an instinct....i have to let it go, let it happen. Even as i came to the point of a feeling, like i have to die now, to get there, i let it happen. I was ready to die. I said to my self, okay when i have to die now, then so it be. No more mortal fear of anything. What should bother me when im dead? And i would say, i had a breakthrou?! Egodeath + NDE?! MIX of All?! And on top of that, that asshole put enough for 7-9 people in my hit...so i was really somwhere else and everywhere, at any given time and always. But also time was gone. It hit me really very hard. Never ever, i had expected what i expirienced or what i saw....damn, forgot what i wanted to say ;)...to all people, dont do drugs if you dont know what youre doing. Especially not with moronic people. Whatever, be nice to each other.
I've seen the faces on huge doses of mushrooms, and also strangely eth-lad. They show up on trees and in the sky if you're outdoors. If you happen to be on a computer while tripping, they're on the screen, in the backgrounds of videos and on white UI.
What mushrooms are you doing? Not being an ass, I’m serious about the effect of certain fungi on humans. I had an experience with a Japanese mushroom which was so exquisite I don’t want to do it again (I think I’m too old to survive the ride) but I would like to find someone who had the same experience and share our stories.
Bahahaha! Albino penis envy was my last roll, it was meh, I fell asleep but had the best sleep! I made up some blue meanie scooby snack caps for my next macro dose reboot, looking forward to those!
Well, my experience was not like that, it was more about seeing the world as two dimensional and it evolving into a huge 3 dimensional landscape. It was breathtaking. There were no genitalia involved, it was just celestial beauty. Maybe you might want to find a different mushroom and find beauty.
I think maybe we aren’t communicating . My experience was life changing. But it was very painful, at the end of the mental journey, it was worth the pain. I did get sick, but obviously I didn’t die. I experienced some amazing pain in my knees in particular. I did throw up.
All I am can is the pain was worth the journey.
This post is a dumpster fire.
Maybe gods don’t exist and hallucinogenics make you see and think weird things that seem much more profound than they actually are.
They technically don't exist as separate individuals because they're all the same person. Duality makes it seem like everyone and everything is separate. It takes literal death for most people to realize it's an illusion created by ego.
True, but it gets you thinking. If all I took was a drug and everything I saw was inside me the whole time, then what is the true nature of reality?
Questions like - how do plants and animals experience time compared to us? What is a hallucination, and why can they so easily be induced? Am I currently hallucinating a certain way and always have been? What does it mean to have an ego.
These are all questions that meet the criteria of "spiritual" in my books
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>"You're all God in disguise, Jesus found that out and they crucified him for saying so." - Alan Watts.
I really like Alan watts but Jesus was crucified 3 days after the so called "Cleansing of the Temple". In a practical sense It seems to me the 2 things are related
The cleansing of the Temple narrative tells of **Jesus expelling the merchants and the money changers** from the Temple and is recounted in all four canonical gospels of the New Testament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple
Matthew 21:12-17 ESV - Jesus Cleanses the Temple - And Jesus - Bible ...
Jesus Cleanses the Temple. 12 And Jesus entered the temple[ a] and **drove out all who sold and bought in the temple,** and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. 13 He said to them, "It is written, 'My house shall be called a house of prayer,' but you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple
Maybe the Dark is from your eyes.... maybe you've had to much to fast...
Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world
But the heart has its beaches, its homeland and thoughts of its own
Wake now discover that you are the song that the morning brings
But the heart has its seasons, its evenings and songs of its own.
Hunter/Garcia
The hell I am. There is 0% chance I had any authority over any of this. Pain existing is a deal breaker. I would have died before allowing it to exist, period. This was done to me, not by me. Full stop.
No problem with the idea that we might be god. Big problem with your condescending tone and absolute certainty that anyone who doesn't share your belief is an ignorant, unenlightened fool.
No I'm not. This is a misreading of Psalms 82:6 btw. If you look at the Hebrew interlinear version, "gods" is the term elohim, referring to the divine counsel.
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The art looks like a TOOL album cover of some sort. If we are Gods, I would know where the hell it came from (God is all knowing) and who the fug is pretending to be all knowing. Don’t kid yourself, we don’t have what it takes to be true GODS.
We could be, or we could be not. At least we think we are apart of the creation! If I was a sole entity possible of creating matter/space/time, I'd create life for just the sake of entertainment (and maybe live it out through multiple entities capable of observing the universe they reside in).
>I'd create life for just the sake of entertainment (and maybe live it out through multiple entities capable of observing the universe they reside in).
That actually sounds a lot like reincarnation
> But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die; for God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
The lies of the serpent in the garden was that you can become God.
The Sumerian texts are real and tell a tale much like the Bible and 1 Enoch. I’m not sure why you’re so salty. I’m saying that humans being gods is still a bullshit lie and the same lie that will lead anyone that believes it into transhumanism and this idea that we can transcend. Nah man, none of that is possible outside of accepting what Jesus did for us and having faith in that.
Bro you’re so close to the truth. Separate what Christians have done to you from the Bible and 1 Enoch (not 2 & 3, those are false.) and dive in. Trust me. I had to do that before I left the New Age.
i’m not being misled into new age, and have no ill will to christians. my opinions come from research.
but i’ll happily develop my perception if you give me some leads.
People of religious faith are so disconnected from god that they need a book to tell them what to believe and how to believe it.
If you find the essence of god in a book, you’re looking in the wrong place.
And the logic of believing in a book written by men who wanted power over others through fear of hell makes perfect sense.
I used to be a christian, but then i learned how to think for myself instead of believing in the lies of fools.
Christians lie. They want you to believe the snake was evil or even satan. He wanted to give humans knowledge that is it. Serpents have been venerated in ancient times by almost every culture. Christians have tried to demonize the serpent
What you're doing is creating a nexus of connections between inaccurate canonical translations, unrelated quotes and spiritual hypotheses and forming conjecture which is influenced by your ego.
I think you're wrong and I can't explain exactly how. But I feel that it's deeper than simply "we are god".
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I love my duality. Native American spirituality and early Christianity are my go-to. Two gods. In a collision course, from what I hear... Should be fun.
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