What did you expect? Frankly I expected worse. It's delightful, actually, that people here can find humor in just about everything. Indicates they may be living happy, joyous, and free.
Your comment indicated a lack of awareness and a lack of humor, as well as a disdain for seeing others having a good time.
4chan wouldn't exist.
Oh and just for reference, "spare the rod spoil the child" does NOT mean hit your kid. It's a biblical reference to shepherding your children and providing them guidance. The rod is a shepherds staff in that sense. Meaning don't give them guidance and they will be ruined as people.
Proverbs 22:15. Foolishness is in the heart of children. But the rod of correction will drive it far away
Again, this is a reference to discipline. Many other versions of the Bible use the word discipline not correction also.
The "Rod" was a reference to a 3ft piece of oak limb that shepherds used to protect their flock from wolves, as well as self defense. But the reference is used many times as symbolism for righteousness, morality, lawfulness etc.
Man i was making flash animations for 6 months back in 2002-2003. My 6th animation got featured on the front page and i was excited. This was when shit like "there she is!" And "the waterlollies" were out so for a kid using snes sprites i was totally outclassed. My dad grounded me for two weeks for falling asleep while the movie uploaded and since he wouldnt pay for an extra ethernet cord i had to use dial up. It tied up the phone line and thanks to that he missed a call from his boss asking him to work overtime.
My dad made fun of me for video games, yugioh, reading, and animating. I dont think if he was more supportive i wouldnt have found 4chan stuff funny, but im pretty sure i wouldnt have been so ashamed of every hobby i had that i would try to hide it for years only to share that part of my life with ppl on 4chan.
Idk man, dads are weird, mine was somewhat supportive of what I did and even push me to try stuff (mainly because I was a shut in who would come from school and just fuck around in my computer for literally hours) but still never really showed any emotional connection with neither me or my brother outside of him being impressed of stuff I did, I never heard a "Im proud of you" or even an "I love you" and it really affected me, constantly trying to earn his words, but always ending up on nothing, until I just stopped trying and did my own thing by myself. From that point onward I just didn't even bother, I'd do everything without him knowing and later on developed that "cringe" feeling when you are "caught" watching something you like that people didn't know about you and it sucks the fact I have a dificulty to tell people I love that I love then because it makes me fear I will become my father, which is most people's fear, but what really terrifies me about it isn't the part of becoming him but being unable to break that detatchment my dad had with me with my own son, being unable to make them feel loved and cared for, it terrifies me the fact they could become me, a sad, depressed guy who in his 20 years of life hasn't accomplished anything, his life is falling apart and can't even face the adult world because no one gave him the tools to be prepared...
>in his 20 years of life hasn't accomplished anything
Not even a third of your life has passed and already going on about accomplishing anything, chill out and go out living your best life - you will burn in hell either way; *Leviticus 20:9*
Yeah dude, I donât even have kids but I know I would be 1000x better of a parent if I did than my parents were/are to me. Iâm in my early 30s and they continue to be shit to me to this day. This hit a little too close to home.
Counter point to your counter point: Chris chan's mental retardation and the awful upbringing he had (tho I think it has more to do with the fact psychologists didn't know as much as we do today when it comes to autism and was essentially doomed from the very beggining to be an eternal man-child)
I was just told to be myself, but not be cringe. but be myself. No no, not that way the way we told you, stupid.
Anyway, i have therapy at 12 tomorrow...
It's amazing how many people forget that children are in fact children. Yes children run around screaming sometimes and they don't always understand right from wrong and they're still learning how to process and deal with emotions. Like I remember crying because someone said my shirt looked 'yucky'. Stupid shit as an adult, but kids are still young.
that is why they need discipline, they cannot tell right from wrong nor what is appropriate in specific circumstances that is why you have to teach them the right way and punish them when they do something wrong so they do not repeat their mistake twice, anon is raising the kid as some feral beast with no discipline.
Anon perhaps may not be teaching his child correctly. But from this case, it seems like he's just not losing his shit over minor inconveniences. Like the kid dropping his plate for example. Accidents happen and you don't lose your shit over it. Unless they were perhaps running with it, which you have told them not to, and they dropped it like they usually do when they run with food.
Thatâs just called being abusive. Yes, if you make your child afraid of you they will not act out, in your line of sight at leat. If fear is the only method you have then as soon as you turn your back itâs going to be a free for all.
once they are old wnough to reliably act behind my back it is not my problem anymore, it's theirs entirely.
also just yell at them for inaction too that will push them to act.
your parents didn't even teach you proper english, "your their" seriously dude?
the role of the parent is to take care of them until they reach independence, after that the role end, it is a travesty to have 20 years olds crying mama at the first setback.
yes because a typo is in the same league as confusing "your" with "you're", one stem from this phone's keypad being so damn small and me typing in a rush the other stem from pure ignorance.
âJust abuse them more, itâll fix the issues of me abusing them!!â
Also, youâre really out here saying your job isnât to take care of a 14 year old lol. At first I thought you were an abusive parent, now itâs pretty clear youâre just a teen with no idea how the world works.
not a teen but yes i am not a parent, what i am saying is based on my own upbringing, which was mighty fine if you ask me, if it worked well for me why shouldn't it work fine for everyone?
Oh, I donât know, maybe because you arenât everyone? Fucking dumbfuck, my god. Youâre quite clearly a teen if Iâm explaining this concept to you but people, and get this, are different. You clearly got brain damage from how you were raised, but someone else in your position mightâve just been given anxiety. An autistic child is again different to other children, almost (or in some cases literally) in a fundamental way.
Please get off Reddit, you are quite clearly breaking breaking the age requirement in the ToS.
there is only one variable that matters wether one is strone enkugh to withstand discipline or not, and weakness must not be tolerated and would not be tolerated in my family, some have broken because of that but not me.
there is nobody tk blame but your own weakness.
it give you anxiety? i call that being weak
you have functional autism? who cares if you are strong enough you will be fine.
your behavior encourages mental and emotional weakness, please refrain from doing that.
also i am in my mid 20s and if you spoke to me in my teens i would have agreed with you at least partially but not anymore.
âMid 20sâ hahahahaha. Yeah, pull the other one next time. This sentiment is the epitome of âIâm 14 and this is deepâ. You are raised in an abusive household and have decided to carry on the cycle of abuse, unlike anon who has chosen to become a better person. Maybe when you grow up youâll learn to be a better person, but for now itâs clear you are just too immature.
feel free to not believe me, i am not "being raised" i have been raised, also i didnt grow up in an abusive household whatsoever, strict yes but never abusive.
yea take care of them even when they are old, that is how you create teens that are not independent in the slightest which in adult age become their parent's basement dwellers.
thats what being a parent is you fucking idiot.
its a life long fucking comitment.
If you ever have kids, they are going to shove your ass in a nursing home and not even care if its an abusive one
good! i have no intention to force my eventual children to take care of me.
also by how you think it is clear that your child will never be truly independent until the day you die.
I think as a parent you have a duty to your kid
to help them thrive and help them up when they fail.
and if your raised them well enough they will do the same for you one day when your old and weak
failure must not be tolerated, getting a yell is not even that much of a punishment, depending on the failure one could disinherit them or enstrange them.
when i am old and weak i don't want anyone helping me unless they are paid to do so, much less my own children.
i met my father only twice in my life and the second time i paid 2 big black dudes to intimidate him back from whence he came, i assure you i was not the one that got hit.
ok then let the child do whatever they please, sing at night? paint the floor with food? yeah just go ahead, wouldn't want to be AbUsIvE and teach your own kid manners, heavens forbid that.
Its a fucking kid, not a dog you can train to do as you please on your command. Besides if you teach the kid properly, there's never a need to punish its actions, so unless we're talking about something truly serious like breaking anything or harming themselves, why would you ever do anything other than explaining them in a way that's easy to understand why they shouldn't do it?
Dropping food is one thing that shit happens.
A child yelling and singing at the top of their lungs at an unreasonable hour is definitely something a child should be taught not to do and be taught why it's bad. Does that me disciplinary action no, but it's not something you should just let them do.
also!!
note that the parent noted that anon should *physically* reprimand the child - in other words, he did reprimand the child for singing at 9pm, he just thought physically harming him was too much for that
and holy fuck the dad threatening to take him from anon just for being clumsy now thats just... wow...
wow...
That's true ,but If you just let them do those things like yell and sing loudly at 9pm with out teaching them why that behavior isn't ideal or good they grow up thinking they can do what ever they want.
9pm is literally whatever. This argument would hold water if itâs 4am and heâs waking people up but singing and having fun at 9??? Take the stick out of your arse.
9pm is when local noise ordnance is enforced in the city I live in. If the singing is loud enough to be annoying, it's probably loud enough to be an issue.
Hell I get up for work at 5am ,9pm for many people like me who work mornings is bedtime and is disrupting sleep
You guys also over look the parts we're it says he just let's them act like a sperg and doesn't bother correcting the child. Then call it good parenting.
Also, my examples are not specifically relevant to the story. There is simply a reason why 9pm can be considered an inappropriate time to be loud.
Youâre still making things up to justify abuse. Point to me where it says anon doesnât bother correcting the kid, cause the only thing he says is âLet the kid be autisticâ. You know, the thing youâre supposed to do with autistic children. Accept that theyâre autistic and let them do so as long as itâs not damaging. Being clumsy with a plate and singing are not that.
"Let him be autistic or whatever."
Is what he says ,this doesn't state that the child is autistic. More so that the child is acting autistic/acting out, not that he is.
This infers that the kid could just be acting, you know, like a kid and doing stupid kid things.
Nor have I ever said the kid needs to be beat simply corrected.
But it would seem a lot of people on here think correction means beating ,instead of teaching.
Also idk where you get this "your suppose to let them be autistic"
If anything, a quick Google search will show that's just plan wrong and that they actually need structured discipline.
Or else you get real-life versions of a lot of the ones you read about in green texts like these.
While it does depend on where you live, I was simply using it as an example of why 9pm is considered late. Though I'm not sure I'd say most places are 10pm but that neither here nor there.
Not just that but they're also adults who are still loading into the server. People treat them like objects or another species. Like 'bro you know they're gonna remember all that shit when they grow up, right? Lol enjoy the retirement home'
That's too fancy for a shitty parent, I would just vanish and let them figure things out by themselves. If you were smart enough to hit me to learn what was or wasn't right, then you're smart enough to find a way to pay for your own retirement home/medic bills/transport/etc.
Little cousin stays over with me frequently. Sheâs 13 with severe ADHD. Itâs like when a kid in a cartoon has an energy drink or sugar. She is also in therapy and theyâre assessing her for PTSD and trauma from her absolutely shitty father. She breaks down crying if you say anything thatâs not in a jovial tone to her.
She drives me crazy, but sheâs a child and considering how rough of a life sheâs had, Iâm surprised sheâs still happy and energetic.
>She breaks down crying if you say anything thatâs not in a jovial tone to her, and this has been going on since she was around 9 or 10.
What sucks is that theres something called Rejection Sensitivity Syndrome that while isnt yet officially related to ADHD, is very, very comorbid with it.
Bro, same. I see my kid do shit all the time that my parents would have just beat or shamed me for and I just do not understand why. Ah well, my kid is happier than I ever was so I must be doing something right.
All these comments makes me want to have my son faster. Me and my girlfriend are planning on having kids and I wanna be the very best father, like my father before.
Not a parent, but my parents say EXACTLY this to excuse the abuse they put me trough (like sure mom you strangling me at age 6 because I am a little weird is definitely justified) I was a difficult child because I had ptsd, autism and a tic disorder which I never received help from anyone for đ
anon isn't breaking no cycle.
the cycle of abuse has fluctuations, what is most likely to happen is this:
strict, maybe too strict, parents raise anon, anon is weak and cannot whitstand discipline so he gro up as a spineless weakling, anon raise child without any kind of discipline at all to counter the way anon was raised, child grow up to be a self centered asshole with no self control, child has a child and raise it amidst abuse because he has no patience and is self centered and the cycle begin anew.
The mother may be suggesting physical punishment ,but no were did I say that.
Correct your child and telling them something is inappropriate to do is not abusive its proper parenting.
Anon may not be physically disciplining his child ,but he's also not correcting their behavior. Which will bring its own set of issues for both him and that child later in life.
You need to learn contexts if thatâs not what you meant. The basic telling a kid to go to bed is one thing, but it sounds like you agree with anons parents when you phrase things like that. These are two examples. He probably parents them fine in other ways if these are the kids biggest sins.
I clearly said, "telling your kid not to be loud."
No where in that comment is there any statement saying I agree with the dudes mother that the kid needs to be beat or even imply that he needs to do so.
Seems more like a reading compression issue on your part, if anything.
That would be irrelevant since my comment directly says the opposite, and I said, "telling them"
Implying that yes, anon shouldn't beat the child, but simply correcting your child isn't abuse.
The downvotes imply that while youâre technically correct, your message didnât get through and came off as harsh. Iâm not gonna be your English teacher anymore.
Kid is 9 and the parents think punishment is acceptable. In the examples anon gives, the kid wasnât being malicious. Punishment for mistakes or inappropriate behavior for a kid that age is completely insane. A stern reprimand and quick correction is all you need to set them straight.
Punishing a kid that age is like punishing a dog. It wonât understand why itâs being punished, only that the person they are supposed to trust is suddenly hurting them.
As soon as I read, "Parents told me they wished I had a child like me so that I understood how difficult I was", my first thought was, "What terrible parents and absolute trash human beings."
Why would you blame your child for your fault?
Yeah, he will once the parent is out of the equation, but at that point the parent will have done their job.
Even if they get traumatized from it, they'll be alive to fix it themselves later on in life, so long as you remain a stern authority figure that causes fear down to their bones they'll have a solid base to unfuck themselves once they have the critical thinking not to fuck up on their own.
Boogeymaxx dadnons, nowadays it's really easy for children to become exposed to things their smooth developing brains aren't ready for, become the thing they fear the most and occupy their idle thoughts that would otherwise go to drugs, porn or anything that has nothing to do with developing an useful skill, be whatever that is, so they can fend for themselves out there.
They'll hate you for life, but that's the badge of honor of parenting, never let their pent-up anger make you doubt for a moment you did the right thing, because it's thanks to you their cries and rage come from the comfy chairs of their successful jobs and entrepreneurship.
Bout time I run into someone else who understands how to be a dad and what it's abt I'm tired of people thinking being a dad is abt instilling a sense of love and being wanted in their home its abt fear its always been abt fear they do what you tell them to do or they face what there moat terrified of in life which needs to be you once that happens you prove them right
Great wow, i wanna be optimistic and think these things will just become more common with a culture level slowly rising everywhere, but also social media era really doesn't help towards that future
Here:
Fake: Anon's parents. In reality they were excellent parents, anon loves them and he drew upon his fertile imagination, not reality, to write this green text.
Gay: Anon, his kid and his parents. In the happy sense of the word, not the gay sense.
My parents were abusive as fuck while I growing up. Only reasonable adult in my life was my stepmom. My parents have apologized for it and I choose to forgive them. But the pain of the past is always there.
Even without having your own kid, it's rough when you think of the times where you were reprimanded for being a normal child. Then you cook some veggies for yourself and genuinely enjoy them, buy something from a vending machine, then you treat a kiddo well. Really hope this is real, because it's so lovely to read someone being better.
I found myself in a step parent role in my 40s, and just got a nugget of my own.
Holy shit so many parents are just fucking awful for no damn reason. Everybody in my house is autistic, and the kids can be weird little guys if they want. Like damn, just let kids exist and fulfill their needs. This shit isn't that difficult.
So why did so many of our parents fucking suck?
There's a fine line in loving your child and not properly educating them.
All my friends are now having kids and I am being prepared too for the same (hopes)
But sometimes I wonder what's the apt behaviour.
Like a kid running in a restaurant is okay, but a kid screaming their lungs out in restaurant is not ?Â
How do you all make the decision what to do ?Â
I am terrified because not educating kids is also an abuseÂ
Know of two back home in our county and they werenât overweight. Just normal looking rural folk. Â People I kinda knew, but my wife knew pretty well. One was a nice girl that worked at the bank in town.
He is probably still doing things he doesn't realize are still mildly abusive, but the improvement is so vast he is 100% crushing it. When his son is older, hopefully he culls the last vestiges of abuse from his parenting, and the cycle can start all over again when anon's grandchild faces some terrible trauma that he takes out on his children.
I'm really happy for anon. As someone with difficult parents and is also on the spectrum, I've always just wanted to do this kind of this because it's not hard if you know how to actually parent instead of gaslighting and blaming the oldest child in the house for your problems. I wish anon the best and his parents can go eat a glass sandwich
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