Only thing I can think of is people who travel for work and are sick of staying in hotel rooms. No other reason why I could see someone wanting an Airbnb in Plano.
It is young local people who rent them for big loud drunken parties. They are the ones ruining it for everyone. We have ones in our neighborhood that are a constant problem.
I had a short term rental in Plano at one point.
It was mostly families visiting relatives, families moving to Texas, local families who needed to move out of their houses during renovations, or people traveling for work along with their family.
Maybe the reason we never got crazy parties is that we had a crib and high chair and allowed pets which made it attractive to families.
I swear y’all use the word sex trafficking way to loosely y’all act like the “heroes” and “for fathers” of America didn’t spend half there life’s in a brothel…
So I read the whole article promotion of prostitution and sex trafficking are two very different things that should not get confused as the same I think they love to use the words sex trafficking in regards to prostitution busts in red states because it helps dramatize the situation and the general public’s fear. I am completely in favor of legalizing sex work in order to remove any kinda of organized crime from the situation prohibition creates more crime and lack of regulation… witch is exactly what senator Cruz and abbot want to get more money from the feds to reinforce policing budgets but it just goes straight to there pockets. And if you think Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott aren’t screwing 1k an hour prostitutes every single night with are tax dollars you are an absolute fool.
I had a short term rental in Plano at one point.
It was mostly families visiting relatives, families moving to Texas, local families who needed to move out of their houses during renovations, or people traveling for work along with their family.
Maybe the reason we never got crazy parties is that we had a crib and high chair and allowed pets which made it attractive to families.
Lots of housing is being used for short term rentals. This causes a few issues, less inventory of housing available to buy which raises home prices. Also the home owners don't give a shit about who rents them, so lots of parties and disruptions go on.
Ah, I see. Yeah, fuck them. Us hotel folks been saying for years that nothing good could come of that and everyone told us, "oH, yOu'Re JuSt mAd ThAt tHeY'rE tAkInG yOuR mOnEy!" Nope, we just know why all the regulations & laws governing hotels exist and why it's bad when someone circumvents them.
I don't want to antagonize you but I've found airbnb rentals to be superior to hotels as a consumer in almost every way except for the ridiculous cleaning fees and chore list. Those two reasons are why I've moved on from STRs
They're only superior because it's supposedly a whole house to yourself. You can get a big-ass suite if that's what you want, though. My whole philosophy, though, is "I'm on vacation, I'm doing the absolute bare minimum of work to stay alive this weekend."
I'll take an AirBnB over a hotel almost every time. Having a real kitchen is one reason. Having a real fridge and separate rooms for the kids is another. You start getting into rarefied prices if you want that in a hotel.
One of the best experiences ever was an AirBnB in Montreal. $40 a night and we were in a charging neighborhood with friendly people, and a quick drive to anywhere. Hotels were triple the price and didn't have the amenities or charm.
Only if you set off the smoke alarm. If you're that worried, just ask the front desk if it's okay. If you're that responsible and forthright, they'll probably say be cool about it. We used to have a guy with us that had a whole-ass setup and would fill the 4th floor with the smell of whatever he was cooking. It was usually better than our restaurant, LOL
Not to mention that the prices of these VRBO's have gotten higher than hotel room prices. Also you're expected to clean the place, and pay a cleaning fee. It's stupid.
Additional reading: https://www.businessinsider.com/airbnbust-airbnb-short-term-vacation-rentals-investors-real-estate-reckoning-2023-3
Since no one is forcing people to rent them, I don’t see the problem with that. They would rent for what they’re worth and no more. The noise pollution to neighbors, that I understand.
AirBNB and VRBO were both more expensive than even some nice hotels in South Austin when I was booking a trip down there for Sept. Ended up booking an Extended Stay America for 1/3 the price.
It's a catch-22. I like AirBnB/VRBO when I'm traveling because *hotels fucking suck* (service sucks, noise sucks, amenities suck, location sucks, housekeeping sucks, etc.), hate short term rentals where I live because it hurts locals.
There's a space for both, but just like hotels shouldn't be unregulated, nor should short term rentals. Same thing happened here as it did with Uber and those shitty scooters that were everywhere. Zero regulation makes a company move in and expand quickly, then regulation arrives that will either kill the industry or bring it back in line. Happens all the time, rinse, repeat.
Short-term rentals being regulated the way they need to be would literally just make them very tiny hotels. IDK where you keep staying that literally every facet of hotels suck, though. Sounds like a you problem
We’ve lost out on countless offers to all cash investors only to see them on air bnb a couple months later.
That and all the hidden fees and the crazy cleaning procedures are why I don’t use rental sites.
Also short term rentals can and do generate a lot of noise and parking issues.
If you ask Reddit it's because every single AirBNB makes you mop the floor, mow the lawn, clean the gutters, etc etc
The actual problem is corporations buying up single family housing to turn into AirBNBs and lowering available housing.
I prefer them personally. Hotels uniformly suck in comparison, though I've had to get more selective with which STR I rent. I avoid the ones with outrageous cleaning fees and cleaning requirements. But then, we always leave the place in good shape, and have the owners messages to us to back that claim up.
Do you know if there are plans to work on the existing short-term-rentals before the ban?
1. Banning them is a great first step.
2. Preventing those existing ones from continuing would be a good next step.
3. It would be nice to see this ban applied to the rest of the metroplex.
Houston has relaxed zoning requirements. Dallas does not. My example is about as apples to apples as it gets. In what way is a Motel 6 operating in a residential zoned neighborhood not comparable to a short term rental operating in a residential zoned neighborhood?
Are homeowners now offering short term rental of bakeries, retail stores, or petrochemical plants? Does your “residential” argument extend to operating any manner of home based business? Headquartered your lawn care company there? Disallowing macramés classes for profit? Banning part time eBay sellers? Renting your home for longer than 28 days?
Nearly every STR is in a residence. And the majority are in areas zoned residential. My point is that if the argument is you can’t have an STR because it’s residential then you can’t do anything when it’s residential. Which would cripple many small business owners and service providers. Folks act like some sort of magic occurs at day 28 of a booking.
Damn the thing is I am on your side but your argument is poor. The issue is parties and excessive noise. Small businesses have nothing to do with the issue.
Considering that most cities have ordinances against making that kind of noise at that time, yeah, you could absolutely report them for going against it.
I feel like you are trying to find a strawman argument though, because anyone who has worked night shift knows they will be dealing with loud noises during their rest time and find ways around it. Kinda comes with the territory.
I totally agree. People think just because they purchase a house they can do what they want with. Anyone staying the night in a house needs to registered with local authorities.
> Preventing those existing ones from continuing would be a good next step.
I'm really really wishing for some taxes on 2nd+ homes. I haven't heard anything about it happening though.
Seems like a step in the right direction for regulating short-term rentals in Plano. It's unfortunate that the ban isn't retroactive, but at least it's preventing any further rentals from going live. Excited to see how enforcement will play out.
I agree with this, there are too many issues in not just Plano but the greater Dallas area, with transient residents. They add nothing of value to the community.
Disgusting to see such anti business behavior from the woke Plano city council. Fortunately I am not effected but my heart goes out to all the property owners who are. Government has no right to be stepping in like this.
Listen dude, that Black Rifle coffee company T-Shirt is basically paying for itself. He can feel the libertarian fluids draining into his body from above.
Do people actually talk to people like that? I mean, I guess so. That is the silliest shit I’ve heard. It’s just…. So Out of context yet illuminating to the state of mind to that who spoke it.
> The window to open a new short-term rental in Plano is officially closed.
> An interim ban began Monday after the Plano City Council, in a joint meeting with the Planning and Zoning Commission on May 8, voted to adopt an ordinance that forbids new STRs from May 15, 2023 to May 15, 2024.
> Plano has an enforcement plan in place, and city officials will discuss a registration ordinance at a June 26 City Council meeting. Violators of the ban would be given a notice to bring the property into compliance, according to city officials.
> “New STR uses are prohibited and would be subject to enforcement action,” Plano city attorney Paige Mims told The Dallas Morning News.
Foreverbans on STR would be a harder sell. Might not pass vs temp ban
They can and hopefully will extend it. We'll find out in a year or so what happens
Airbnb/vrbo/etc was fine at the beginning, but it's gotten out of hand. I'm paying how much with added fees and I still have to wash the sheets, take out the trash, color code the recycling, bang your wife, replace all the fire alarm batteries, walk they neighbors dog, and lock the door before the final reach around. I'd rather right the bed bugs at LaQuinta.
I only took out the sheets, but had one and had a bad leg rash from one..
my family had one which had a weed smell along with broken walls. They had small kids, so they went to a hotel instead.
some short term is good, but when the entire areas dominated by one it sucks.
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