Does anyone miss the real 'mini' minivans...?

Which was far too much for a sub 3000lb sedan or crossover. They handled terribly for their era, .78G on the skidpad was not good for a 2950lb car with a 180HP 1.8L. Handling was "fine" for the base and perfect for the AWD but it wasn't engaging or good handling by any means. They actually handled quite well with a simple set of mild lowering springs and better shocks and tires. Shockingly better. Nobody on the planet was saying their base suspension Corolla was a good handling car though. They just weren't. Too tall. Too soft. Handling on the Celica, which shared the platform and engine, was excellent. It was a bit lower with a much lower effective CG. Pretty much everyone lowered those an additional inch or more to get the clearance around 4-4.5". Stiffening up the springs to reduce roll was a critical aspect too, so you could maybe argue that the handling could have been much better just by stiffening up the suspension. Sadly it seems most of the Matrixes and Vibes finally bit the dust. It's been a long time since I've seen a Matrix XRS and don't see many base or AWDs anymore either. It seems like the XRs were the first to disappear I think they were driven hard and put away wet.