Well they already were done from the beginning thanks to Gtk's (excellent) Wayland support. `xfwm` is obviously the hardest one because it'll be the actual Wayland compositor, `xfce4-screenshooter` is only stuck on a bug when selecting regions, and `xfce4-session` depends on `xfwm` anyways.
It makes sense. It also makes sense to use wl-roots since its become somewhat of the go to when writing a Wayland compositor. They label it as "the 75,000 lines of code you were going to write anyways" lol and mutter is really strong headed in their own direction. GNOME has been quite tedious from what I understand when it comes to trying to unify Wayland implementations.
Oh, has this been announced? I knew they were considering it, but I hadn't actually seen the decision. A quick Google didn't bring anything up, can you link to more info about it?
it was in one of the weekly? blogs or a Video they was going to start porting for cross compatibility with other DE's stuff can change and that plan can get abandoned.
Glad to see DE's like XFCE and Cinnamon jumping on the Wayland train. They delayed for a long time, but I think they now realize that if they don't start the work, they will be left behind and forgotten.
Then take it up with Nvidia and maybe you can talk them into releasing the driver into open source. If you can do that, you’ll be accomplishing something that not even Linus could.
Their open source driver is a fake.
Nvidia just moved their proprietary stuff into a firmware binary file which gets executed via their open source "driver" skeleton.
There is work being done for Maxwell,Pascal and Volta support, that's what sm50 in merge request on gitlab stands for. There is also a environmental variable to enable nvk on older cards.
It's for all cards on the kernel side. I don't quite know the details on the mesa side for the older cards though. Maybe they keep using the non NVK code.
Nouveau's main problem was not being able to handle things like reclocking for newer generations of nvidia cards. Nvidia's GSP is being used to solve that problem for Turing+ cards. Apparently most cards will be able to have use these drivers *and* have reclocking.
It is quite sad to see how comments that briefly and neutrally explain personal experiences or arguments of pure common sense, are downvoted by fanboys for not including disclaimers in favor of their causes.
It's a good thing that it isn't my problem.
And, hey, guess what? That was a conscious decision on my part.
Imagine that.
Been using Wayland for a very long time now. No problem.
It's almost as if all the people for the past couple decades that said that buying hardware with open source drivers was important had a kinda of a good point.
As a KDE user you should already be aware that since the next version of KDE is in Beta that means that the current version is essentially abandonware.
This is the way it was from KDE3 to KDE4, and again from KDE4 to KDE5.
Don't worry, though: In KDE 6 it is X11 support that will be a second class citizen, not the other way around.
Also it looks like they put a lot of work in fixing their release process, which should make it possible for distros to properly support KDE once again as their default desktop. If they want.
So the future is bright for KDE6. Looking forward to trying it out.
I've been running KDE6 for a few days now. It's getting there. It did unfortunately break the Nvidia/Wayland experience on my system, which was at least fairly usable under KDE5. You can tell the slight appearance changes from going to Qt6 and it looks cleaner. They've done some nice touch ups here and there.
Gnome has been the most stable Wayland experience for me. They've been defaulting to Wayland for years so it's super tested.
GTK is a first class citizen on Linux. Whereas Qt cares much more about being cross platform and doesn't really want to specific features that only work on single platforms.
Pretty amazing progress! I remember looking at that same document about a year ago and there were like 5 small programs that were marked as "running" (with major problems at that).
Pretty good progress overall, it looks like might we have a functional wayland session to test for the next release. The real blockers seem to be in the xdg-desktop-portal stuff more than the window manager itself it seems.
Anyone use xfce4-panel on anything wayland already? I tried it a few months back but couldn't get it to work. Can't remember what WM it was. I hate dealing with css styling on every other panel.
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