Why is everyone using the term (assault rifle) instead of referring to what it’s actually called armaLite rifle
Posted by Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 54 comments
Do anyone else get a little annoyed when people go around calling all rifles assault rifles? It seems a dumb thing to be annoyed over but how can an object be called a verb, like a verb is a word that describes an action right. Also aren’t we just playing in to the ain’t gun lobby hand by now letting them redefine all are rifles?
guynamedgoliath@reddit
The "AR" in AR15 just means ARmalite.
CuriousPass861@reddit
I think it stands for Armalite rifle.
guynamedgoliath@reddit
The AR17 is a shotgun, though.
Agammamon@reddit
https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-grammar/compound-nouns/
The only people who call all rifles 'assault rifles' are gun banners - because they're using the term incorrectly. Assault rifles - like the M-16 - are intermediate cartridge, detachable magazine fed, select fire, rifles.
We don't call all rifles 'assault rifle'.
'Assault rifle' is a real, technical, term. You're confusing it with 'assault weapon' which is the other term gun banners use when it was pointed out that they're using 'assault rifle' incorrectly. That's the term they use to describe all 'scary black rifles'.
So no, we're not playing into the gun lobby's hands.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
https://www.britannica.com/technology/assault-rifle
Agammamon@reddit
Mate - how can 'swimming pool' be a compound noun then? Its a 'verb - noun'.
Oh, wait, it is - just like 'assault rifle' is.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
Because the definition on assault is physically acting someone or something. Which is not the case here, swimming is a act of movement through water which is what u do with a swimming pool which is a small body of water which one can move around
Agammamon@reddit
And you can assault someone with a rifle too.
Its a compound noun. I can't help it you didn't pay attention in middle-school English classes.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
Yes u can but in the context that we are talking about is if a person is owning an rifle
Agammamon@reddit
Just like I can own a horseless carriage but live in it. Its still a horseless carriage even if I don't use it as a carriage.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
Because u don’t have a horse which makes it a horseless carriage. Which is the act of a carriage without a horse?? But if u had a horse it wouldn’t be tht
Agammamon@reddit
If it had a horse it would just be a carriage.
PoppaPickle@reddit
Assault rifle isn't a verb? Why do you think assault rifle is a verb?
Also in modern slang, verbs are being used as descriptors for objects.
"Cringe" is a verb and people now use it to describe things.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
verb
a word used to describe an action, state, or occurrence, and forming the main part of the predicate of a sentence, such as hear, become, happen.
Dad_Dukes@reddit
An action....as in firearm action....🤦♂️
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
as·sault verb make a physical attack on.
ParkerVH@reddit
It started with the San Ysidro, CA McDonald's massacre in 1984 where an AK47 was used and the weapon was referred to as an assault rifle. Handgun Control perpetuated that name for years and by 1994 when the Assault Weapons ban was put in place to sunset after ten years; this sealed the name forever.
It didn’t happen overnight.
Dad_Dukes@reddit
Assault WEAPON. it is CORRECTLY termed assault rifle if has select fire capability. The term assault rifle predates your example by 4 decades.
Agammamon@reddit
Mate, Adolf Hitler (probably not Hitler himself - but it was created in WW2 Germany) coined the term 'assault rifle'. Of course, he did this in German so it was the 'stermgewehr'.
Its used as a technical term to describe intermediate cartridge, magazine fed, select fire rifles and the term 'battle rifle' was later coined to describe older and other rifles that 'weren't assault rifles'.
Even the term 'assault weapon' is older than 1984.
ParkerVH@reddit
I’m well aware of Sturmgewehr (correct spelling)
If my assumption is correct, I believe the premise of the original post was when did ‘assault rifle’ become part of the language of the anti-gunners here in the U.S. and why is it always referenced incorrectly.
The main intent helps to demonize the instrument, not the user.
ImpressiveOwl6678@reddit
Same reason people deny climate change.
Their idiots.
Dad_Dukes@reddit
That's a false narrative. No one denies climate change. The earth has been changing for 6 billion years. What is at odds is whether or not you have specific evidence that man is causing the continued climate change. There is equal evidence on both sides of that argument.
Ornery_Secretary_850@reddit
Most of the AR pattern rifles aren't Armalite. They are other brands.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
But is it close to the pattern of the Ar-15 and AR-18
NoNameJustASymbol@reddit
Everyone is not using it. Only the anti-gunners and other disingenuous and ignorant people. When I hear/see people use it I give them an immediate and clear correction: people assault, guns do not.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
That’s what I been doing as well but I also add anything can be a “assault” like a pen, pillows, hats, etc
rebelskum24@reddit
Defense rifle
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
Thts wht i like to hear
ProblemEfficient6502@reddit
An assault rifle is a compact rifle chambered for an intermediate cartridge, possessing select-fire capability, and effective out to 300 meters. They are useful for assaulting positions because they're light and handy. A number of people don't understand the select-fire part (or practice willfull ignorance to play up the fear) and label it as such regardless.
Mediocre-Leek-9292@reddit
Is .223 an intermediate cartridge?
I would consider .308 to be intermediary
VerticalLamb@reddit
Yeah. .308 is full-sized rifle dude.
Mediocre-Leek-9292@reddit
I guess - it’s short action
freakinunoriginal@reddit
Action length is just a reference to the maximum cartridge overall length that a rifle accepts.
"Intermediate" vs. "full power rifle" is about muzzle energy, recoil, and/or effective range; specifically: being more powerful/longer-range than a traditional pistol cartridge but more controllable than a rifle cartridge.
.308 was explicitly designed to pack as close to .30-06 power into a slightly shorter cartridge without unreasonable pressure.
Winchester Super Short Magnum is mini-action length, but delivers higher velocity than a similar-caliber short-action cartridge (for example, .243 WSSM vs .243 Winchester).
VerticalLamb@reddit
Yeah. Chances are your average gun controller thinks that MGs are completely unregulated.
IllAssistance7@reddit
It seems the entire state of MD does…..
Kevthebassman@reddit
Mine is a sport utility rifle.
NoNameJustASymbol@reddit
My is just rifle.
Street--Ad6731@reddit
You should see my assault fists!
wildraft1@reddit
Are we really going to do this again today?
PewPewPony321@reddit
Ive never really encountered this. I only hear it on the news and social media.
static34622@reddit
Because they all are fakebook educated idiots that have absolutely no idea what "Critical Thinking" is. Just a bunch of fukin sheep that refuses to work and learn on their own.
10gaugetantrum@reddit
Sadly it is becoming the norm. I have even seen advertisements for "assault" shotguns, pistols and rifles. If I hear someone say "assault rifle" I'll ask them to define the term and usually they get confused when they are unable to define I in their own words.
Riker557118@reddit
It irritates me as much as “gun people” calling magazines clips and thinking AR means Armalite Rifle instead of just ARmalite.
The AR-17 is a shotgun and the AR-24 is a pistol.
But overall less than Ford calling their EV Edge a goddamn mustang.
Guilty-Resort-4665@reddit (OP)
Well at least I’m closer then most people 😭
Donzie762@reddit
To be fair, the real ARmalite-15 was select fire only, never sold on the civilian market and majorly different than any subsequent Stoner pattern rifle that falls under the slang use of the term “AR-15 “.
hunterslaughter@reddit
Yes it’s annoying!
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the Armalite originally made for farms? And stuff.
They won’t say the M14 is an assault rifle. But that was the real military rifle while the Armalite was considered an afterthought. Originally.
RichardDJohnson16@reddit
The M14 isn't an assault rifle because it uses a full-size rifle cartridge. The Ruger AC556 (automatic mini-14) is, though.
New_Ant_7190@reddit
Let's not confuse the gun grabbers. In '67-69 in Vietnam I carried a M14A2. They'd probably call that a "machine gun"!
hunterslaughter@reddit
Interesting
RichardDJohnson16@reddit
Stoner created the AR-10 to compete with the T44 and T45 rifles developed by the U.S. Army's Springfield Armory to replace the M1 Garand battle rifle. He presented the AR-10 for evaluation in 1954.
RichardDJohnson16@reddit
Bullshit. Assault rifle isn't an action, an assault rifle is a rifle with select fire capability. That definition existed LOOOONG before the gun control crowd re-invented it.
PissShiverss@reddit
It's just a virtue signal to their voter base.
The same way they use the term "military weaponry" to refer to AR's and AK's. But the military also uses pistols, shotguns, and bolt actions, shit I was reading some SEAL teams use .22's.
It's all just to appease their voter base.
qootkhalt@reddit
Uneducated libtards
-I-like-toast-@reddit
It's just liberal democrats that do this.
And unfortunately, they are the largest voices about firearms.
But typically the uneducated willfully ignore facts.