Amelia Earhart’s aircraft believed to be found in deep ocean, could provide clues in her disappearance
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styx-n-stones64@reddit
Anyone reading this trying to figure out what happened it turned out to be a pile of rocks.
Sorry.
Cameronrd1@reddit
She was eaten by coconut crabs on Nikumaroro island.
chrisirmo@reddit
Nothing they’ve found indicates this could be her aircraft other than “we found a vaguely plane-shaped object within a few thousand square miles of where she might have been, which also happens to be a location that likely also hides many other aircraft known to have disappeared.”
Compy222@reddit
Some years ago I opened the window shade on a night flight back from Hawaii and it made me realize just how big and lonely the Pacific Ocean truly is. Hard to describe just darkness forever off the end of that wing tip. Finding something plane shaped at the bottom of the ocean seems far more likely than finding an individual aircraft lost on it.
paulrudder@reddit
That’s exactly why the UFOs submerge and likely house themselves within the depths of the ocean.
The pentagon-confirmed UFO footage from the USS Nimitz shows one disappear beneath the ocean and it never came back up.
Pretty crazy to think an entire alien civilization could exist at the far depths of the ocean where man has never ventured.
PissingBowl@reddit
Absolutely. Undetectable, able to move at tens of thousands of MPH…it’s remarkable. Some of my favorite accounts are from people who have seen UFOs over the Gulf of Alaska. It’s such a cold, unforgivable place
paulrudder@reddit
Yep.
And it makes complete sense if you think about it. If an alien or inter dimensional species of some sort (or even us from the future) wanted to set up shop on earth, where better to do so than the furthest reaches where no one can currently venture or fully explore?
PissingBowl@reddit
And if they operate by manipulating gravity around them, it’s feasible there could be some kind of base or charging station far far into the sea floor. Similar to our ability to monitor space for radio signals and UAP visuals, I’d be interested to know what sort of sonar signatures have been received that are unexplained. Or maybe they don’t disturb the surrounding water, idk. I’d love to know more about underwater UAP operations, which have been confirmed by about every seagoing military official who is a proponent of disclosure
Successful-Hunt8559@reddit
The most brain-dead discussion on reddit.
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PissingBowl@reddit
Clearly this topic touches a part of your paradigm that makes you uncomfortable. Stop making that everyone else's problem. If it were truly "brain dead" you wouldn't have stopped. So since I can't help make your worldview more comfortable, and you have nothing to add to the conversation other than it hurts your feelings, what would you like to do here? You have the attention you so clearly wanted.
sgf-guy@reddit
I got to Tiger Cruise (civilian friends and family end of deployment) on an aircraft carrier from Pearl Harbor to SD. 5 and a half days of nothing but ocean at a good clip. Even if you have been on a cruise ship, it’s really difficult to truly explain how big oceans are. That flight pattern is still one of the longest normal routes with the only alternatives of turn back or go ahead…no option in between.
AlpacaCavalry@reddit
It always baffles me how the Polynesians just straight up looked at such a vast ocean and then decided to sail across it to a land that may or may not be there.
NumbersMonkey1@reddit
The not very nice answer: when it came to long distance navigation, most of them died. It was so extremely dangerous that the British banned it when they became the colonial power.
This was not an unintended consequence, since the habitable islands were mostly at carrying capacity. Wayfinding and war were the pressure relief valves to keep the population at sustainable levels. Running out of fresh water, food, or wood meant that everyone would die.
Moana was a Disney movie but they got one thing right: when her island had plenty of food, there was no need to do wayfinding. When her island runs out of fish, hopping on a boat and heading off for a distant island becomes an excellent idea.
ExperienceLoud1632@reddit
Well it’s not like birds and other animals don’t migrate. They have to come from somewhere
Available-Nothing-12@reddit
Did they? Or did they have information we may not know today? The current may bring somethings to a side of the land consistently more than to the other side, what may have hinted there is a large piece of land that direction. Given their success they might have known better than we think.
RBR927@reddit
Survivorship bias, how many set sail and never made it?
Messyfingers@reddit
Safe to say they were very, very skilled, but to survive that definitely requires a measure of luck.
xbaahx@reddit
I just finished listening to this podcast with the author of a book on the topic. Absolutely fascinating. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-is-this-happening-with-chris-hayes/id1382983397?i=1000643490951
herpafilter@reddit
Thirst, hunger, disease and war are powerful motivators. Finding new islands was about survival. You either find a new, hopefully empty, island to settle or you slowly die on your current over populated island.
shrimpyhugs@reddit
They sailed against the current so worst case scenario if they didnt find anything theyd be able to make their way home easier
SpeedingTourist@reddit
I think about this way too often. What a leap of faith, right
Longwaytofall@reddit
Every time I fly to/from the islands it’s a tough pill to swallow. You are so so so far from any infrastructure. Hitting the equal time point is always a little sigh of relief because at least if shit goes sideways you know where you’re going.
DamNamesTaken11@reddit
When I was on a flight to Taipei and I opened the shade somewhere between the Aleutian Islands and the Japanese archipelago, I had that a similar thought. Seeing nothing but black of the skies above, the waters below, and only human made lights I could see were the navigation and strobes of the 747 I was in made me realize how small we are and how big the ocean is.
disdainfulsideeye@reddit
But those village chiefs confirmed his claims.
diveguy1@reddit
Actually, “There's no other known crashes in the area and certainly not of that era and that's kind of design with the tail that you see clearly in the image," Romeo said in an NBC interview.
TheModernCurmudgeon@reddit
Looks a lot more like a swept wing jet than a Lockheed Electra but what do I know
ParticularAct6596@reddit
Your right the wings are too swept back.
AutoRot@reddit
Looks like a phantom to me
mikemac1997@reddit
I was thinking more F86
TyVIl@reddit
It do look like a phantom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StA4UN2NtqI NSFW language.
Doopoodoo@reddit
An F-4? I don’t see it
Appropriate-Sir-6483@reddit
Maybe an F86 Sabre?
TheModernCurmudgeon@reddit
Totally looks similar, I was thinking also MIG-15 or 17
boomshtick676@reddit
Also, from my understanding, they didn't find this in their trove of measurements until after they were wrapped up and were headed back to port. Not surprising since it's a monumental amount of data to parse through -- but the cynical part of me wonders if that's a manipulation to build more interest in the story and generate more funding and get a documentary or TV series out of a return trip for the expedition. If they land enough funding, they may even be able to afford to 1) be wrong, and 2) continue searching a wider swath of territory.
If the search for MH370 taught us anything, it's that scouring the ocean floor at 15-20,000ft of depth is the biggest needle in a haystack you could ever imagine -- and the MH370 search probably had much higher resolution equipment at its disposal than this search had -- and they're looking for an even smaller needle.
Just seems very ballsy to assert it's Amelia's Earhart's plane when it could be literally anything else.
Fruktoj@reddit
The loss of the MH370 and the subsequent search for it, other global activities involving subsea search, and the rise of more advanced AI, have all led to a big investment in search and survey capabilities. AI makes it way easier to parse through all that data quickly without a person looking at it all. And the range on these devices is getting downright scary. Seeing clear to the bottom isn't the stretch it used to be, and paired with UUV, AUVs, and ROVs, the world of wet is getting smaller.
ImpoliteSstamina@reddit
There are a lot of other aircraft that went in that area, but they've all been identified.
If you accept that it's an aircraft (which is indeed a bit of a stretch to be sure about), Earhart'e Electra is the only known plane that went missing in that area.
FailureAnalysisGuru@reddit
Nice effort but it is more likely to be a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_G3M "Nell" bomber. Note that it has the same twin tail design. On 12/8/41 Howland Island was attacked by a group of these bombers from Kwajalein island. I do not know if the location of this target is in line with a flight path from Kwajalein but that might be important. In the two weeks after the 12/8/41 raid single "Nell" bombers returned to attack Howland. I have no Japanese sources to tell me whether or not any of the attacking planes were lost. You may have solved a mystery for a Japanese family rather than an American one.
On December 8, 1941 Howland was bombed and 2 colonists were killed. Attacks also took place on December 10th and then on January 5th and 24th, 1942. Colonists on Howland and Baker Islands were not rescued until January 31, 1942
A Japanese air attack on December 8, 1941 by 14 twin-engined Mitsubishi G3M "Nell" bombers of Chitose Kōkūtai, from Kwajalein islands, killed two of the Kamehameha School colonists: Richard "Dicky" Kanani Whaley, and Joseph Kealoha Keliʻhananui. The raid came one day after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and damaged the three airstrips of Kamakaiwi Field. https://www.eaglespeak.us/.../pacific-war-prep-howland...
One final comment which leads me to believe that it is a "Nell". The sonar image shows significant returns outside of the twin tails. That is a characteristic of the "Nell" and is not present on the Electra which has almost no tail surface past the twin uprights.
mmortal03@reddit
"One piece of good news for Romeo’s search is that there are probably very few other planes anywhere near Howland. An airstrip was built on Howland in the 1930s in anticipation of commercial trans-Pacific flights, but Earhart was going to be the first to actually use it. During the war it was bombed by the Japanese to prevent its use, and that’s the extent of its aviation history. None of the WWII air-sea battles were fought in the vicinity, and it’s much too remote for general aviation planes to ever go near."
https://briandunning.substack.com/p/i-remain-very-guarded-about-the-new
mkosmo@reddit
It's not like there wasn't a world war where thousands of aircraft went down, hundreds potentially in the area. And many had similar silhouettes.
mmortal03@reddit
"One piece of good news for Romeo’s search is that there are probably very few other planes anywhere near Howland. An airstrip was built on Howland in the 1930s in anticipation of commercial trans-Pacific flights, but Earhart was going to be the first to actually use it. During the war it was bombed by the Japanese to prevent its use, and that’s the extent of its aviation history. None of the WWII air-sea battles were fought in the vicinity, and it’s much too remote for general aviation planes to ever go near."
https://briandunning.substack.com/p/i-remain-very-guarded-about-the-new
tobascodagama@reddit
And just finding a plane wreck down there is cool enough! The true story of what plane it is and how it got there will be cool and interesting on its own! There's no need to make shit up about Amelia Earhart.
keenly_disinterested@reddit
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pareidolia
---Cupid---@reddit
Has the Romeo team ever gone back to investigate it?
Morningdoobie@reddit
Has to be her plane. The tail section is a dead give away. And seeing as how there is only one missing Lockheed Model 10-E Electra. There is no doubt in my mind that this is her plane.
TreegNesas@reddit
A few years ago, on a trip from San Antonio, Chile, back to Hongkong, we had some time on hand so I decided to change course slightly and take a look at Howland island, where Earhart was supposed to land. In the end, we passed the island in bright daylight at just a few miles and still could barely see it! A miniscule little heap of sand, barely above sea level! Due to a chaotic organisation Earhart did not have a functional radio direction finder (or rather, the RDF she had could not receive the frequency of the beacon at the island), so all she could do was find that little island on sextant sightings and visuals, on a cloudy day, while running on the last drops of fuel... a truly hopeless task. That plane could be anywhere.
chuckop@reddit
And there were scattered to broken clouds at 2,000’ that day. Lots of shadows on the water.
What’s known is that she got to within 50 miles of Howland (kudos to Fred Noonan). But as you mentioned, what was supposed to get her the rest of the way - direction finding - was seriously messed up. Earhart’s lack of experience with the equipment, a possible missing antenna wire, and poor coordination with the Coast Guard doomed the flight.
TreegNesas@reddit
I knew the island was low and small, but when we passed, I was truly shocked how small it is. Worse then I ever imagined. With GPS and good maps it is no problem to get there, but you do not see it until you are almost on top of it. A tiny speck in a huge blue ocean. And indeed, as you say, with scattered clouds and their shadows it will be an almost impossible task.
On a stable ship with nice clear weather an experienced navigator with a sextant should reach a position accuracy of 2-3 miles. But from a moving airplane through a porthole with a bubble-sextant like Noonan used, 40-50 miles is indeed the best you can expect. Nowhere near enough to stand a chance to find that tiny island.
whatisperfectionism@reddit
Sorry to revive an old thread like this, but reading your comment about how small it was makes me wonder if it makes the presence of US artifacts on there even more strange? Specifically artifacts that match that era
TreegNesas@reddit
We're talking about Howland island, that's where Earhart was supposed to land, not where she may have ended up. Howland island was fitted with a rudimentary runway and was originally proposed to be used as refueling stop for trans pacific flights so there were some facilities. Also, it was attacked by the Japanese during WW2 when the runway was bombed and destroyed.
whatisperfectionism@reddit
My bad, totally misunderstood that! Thanks for clarifying
stanerd@reddit
I said in another post that she died due to Fred's incompetence since he was the navigator. So I guess Amelia was incompetent as well since she didnt know how to use the equipment. It sounds like they both died due to stupidity. That sucks.
mmortal03@reddit
It's probably not in Kansas.
Funkyspunkspunk@reddit
No update yet!!?? 24/9/2024 Photos etc 🙄It’s only 16.000ft deep😝It’s all gone a bit quite🤔
oj-simpson32@reddit
Two words; Coconut Crabs
igivefreetickles@reddit
I prefer coconut shrimp
God_Damnit_Nappa@reddit
I absolutely love the theory that she got eaten by giant crabs. It's just so gross yet so weird.
MuffMagician@reddit
Explain.
AlmightyDarkseid@reddit
i mean, it isn't really a theory like all the others, it's just what possibly happened when she died.
AlmightyDarkseid@reddit
An astounding amount of people who try to deny that this is the actual plane in here with some of the most braindead arguments, compared to a surprising little amount of people who realize how similar this plane is to hers, how the location matches perfectly, and how this is unlike any other previous find. This is, very likely, unironically, her plane.
akagordan@reddit
We have no idea if this is a plane, it could be a formation of rocks or even wildlife that is vaguely plane shaped.
If it is a plane, judging by the wings appearing to be more swept than an Electra, it’s probably more likely to be a Japanese bomber or Soviet-era MiG. Regardless, it’s a relatively easy task to go back to this spot with higher frequency radar and confirm what the object is. My guess, we’ll never hear another word about this.
AlmightyDarkseid@reddit
It is most probably a plane considering how much the structure resembles one and it is very much possible that it is Electra but with the wings having either been swept back, up, or down, thus with a specific angle giving the illusion that they are more swept back. In any case, as you said it will be easy to go there and look again and my guess is that we'll be hearing about this again at some point.
akagordan@reddit
The company who took these images is closely guarding the location and using the picture to raise funds. In my opinion, you can flip a coin on whether or not they’ll use those funds to go back to the site, but maybe you have more faith in humanity than me.
aviation-da-best@reddit
Yeah, as u/chrisirmo very rightfully says, this is probably just bs.
I remember the day MH370 went missing... I was in middle school back then, and I was like... the EPIRB/ELB will be found in a few hours probably. Boy was I wrong.
1701anonymous1701@reddit
This year is a decade since it went missing, and we’ve only found a few pieces of it. I knew it could take a minute (like Air France 447), but never imagined a decade later and we still haven’t found it.
aviation-da-best@reddit
I feel unimaginably bad for the families of the PAX and crew on that flight.
I remember the day so vividly... opening up the newspaper and seeing a freakin' 777 missing. I always felt that it was definitely not fire/structural failure since it was so darn unlikely to bring down an airliner without an ounce of indication to the outside world.
Sadly, even today, everything points towards the crew, especially Shah.
1701anonymous1701@reddit
That’s what I believe happened, too. Especially after reading Ean Higgins’ book.
Speaking of another mystery, where is he?
aviation-da-best@reddit
I've heard that the XPNDR knob briefly passed the 'ALT REPORTING ONLY' mode...
If that is true... holy shit.
Agents-of-time@reddit
What's being implied here?
akagordan@reddit
I think they’re saying it briefly passed alt reporting on it it’s way to standby. But I’m not sure why that’s a big deal.
BriGuy550@reddit
I’d like to know now too. No idea what “ALT REPORTING MODE” is.
cruiserman_80@reddit
Plenty of great theories out there. Guessing that the bones in question were not kept or didn't have any useable DNA.
His findings revealed that the bones were more similar to Earhart’s than 99 percent of individuals in a large reference sample. If the bones did, in fact, belong to Earhart, that would mean she died on the island of Nikumaroro, where they were discovered, which is about 640km south of Howland. Jantz tells the BBC that his views haven't changed with the new discovery. "In order for the Nikumaroro hypothesis to be disproven that aeroplane would have to be positively identified as Earhart’s Electra," he says. "That has not yet happened, and until it does there is no point in speculating about an Earhart connection."
funguy787@reddit
MH370?
n1n430@reddit
no they found it in bikini bottom remember?
susman9109@reddit
Almost looks like a MiG-17 with the swept wings.
AlmightyDarkseid@reddit
An astounding amount of people who try to deny that this is the actual plane in here with some of the most braindead arguments, compared to a surprising little amount of people who realize how similar this plane is to hers, how the location matches perfectly, and how this is unlike any other previous find. This is, very likely, unironically, her plane.
benbalooky@reddit
Get a new sub. It's time for a sequel.
kevin_from_illinois@reddit
Wake up babe, Oceangate II just dropped
Disastrous-Bus-9834@reddit
I'll never get over how a quack took the name oceangate. That word is jinxed forever, imagine a legit and serious submersible vehicle manufacturing enterprise with that name instead of the idiot that had it instead.
Available-Nothing-12@reddit
Why would anyone in their right mind name a company something+gate? That makes what happened even more ironic.
Late-Mathematician55@reddit
Vegas oddsmakers say it is WW2 fighter.
Weaponized_Puddle@reddit
Is there actually somewhere someone could bet on this?
SpeedingTourist@reddit
You can bet on anything in Vegas
zzzcrumbsclub@reddit
You can bet on Vegas that you can bet on Vegas that you can bet
SpeedingTourist@reddit
Damn right.
Rollover_Hazard@reddit
Vegas odds makes say it’s literally any other winged thing
philocity@reddit
Tooth fairy
YouSuzeYouLose@reddit
I don't get into bogus-sounding shenanigans, but honestly, this seems really worth looking into. They should be healthily skeptical, but if I were these people, I'd be committed to continuing to pursue this (the shape is very, very consistent with a model 10 Lockheed)
TomLondra@reddit
Earhart's Lockheed did not have swept wings. Even if that shape at the bottom of the ocean is an aircraft, it isn't hers.
But there's some kind of Hollywoodish PR thing going on here, trying to get people excited. Trying to whip up nostalgia-type interest in Amelia Earhart. Someone probably stands to make $$$$$$
Silly_View4297@reddit
The wings appearing swept wouldn’t be that shocking if it hit the water and sank to 16K feet, they certainly could have been damaged in a crash and from pressure and appear different. I think the most promising parts are the stabilizer sizes and the fact it appears it could be a double fun, along with the location.
scambush@reddit
I agree in that although the 10-A didn't have swept wings, the sonar could give the appearance of them given that perhaps a portion of the wings decayed, or due to just how the sonar portrays it. The wings were in fact sort of shaped like an elongated triangle with a round tip, if you look at the blueprints.
DolphBalboa@reddit
oh yeah, you know the eventual documentary, the months leading up to the return to the sitr. It just so happens They didn't review the photos until weeks/months or something after. because that would've been too convenient and they would've already known for sure if it was now they get to build up hype going back.
ConorC18@reddit
I saw this clown on NBC today… apparently a former military intelligence specialist… making ludicrous claims about this very inconclusive scandal return as being not only a Lockheed Electra, but Amelia Earhart’s. There is no serious scientist out there who would corroborate such an irresponsible claim. This con artist is trying to scare up some deep-pocketed idiots to bankroll his fantasies about playing deep-ocean treasure hunter. It’s all a giant nothing-burger, and serious news outlets are knowingly using it for clickbait. Shame.
SignificantJacket912@reddit
The idea that this is her airplane also directly contradicts established evidence as to what happened to her after she was supposed to land. Three radio stations in the Pacific received radio distress calls from her for several days after she was due in to Howland Island. For that to have been possible, she would have needed a functioning radio with a functioning engine capable of charging the batteries and the electrical system. Meaning, the airplane would have had to have landed mostly intact on an island or a reef somewhere. Not ditched in the middle of the sea.
This sonar image could be anything. Debris that fell off a ship, an airplane from the WW2 era, literally anything.
blueb0g@reddit
No they didn't. None of that is confirmed. Some stations may have heard weak radio transmissions, some of which were later determined to be hoaxes. No confirmed messages from Earhart were sent after she would have run out of fuel. Almost certainly she crashed/ditched and sank quickly.
SignificantJacket912@reddit
Yes, they did.
Three different radio stations heard her transmissions on Wake Island, Nauru, and Midway plus the Itasca that was stationed off her destination and an unsubstantiated signal was heard by a station on Honolulu at one point as well. It was a white Anglo female voice using a transmitter powerful enough to reach those stations and also using her call sign and using the frequency she had designated prior. That frequency was only available standard on American and Canadian aircraft radio sets at the time and Ham operators didn’t have standard access to it. Making it exceedingly difficult for some random yahoo to have made faux broadcasts. This was also the South Pacific in the 1930s, where the technology used in that radio set wasn’t widely available.
Additionally, these stations weren’t just random people making reports. Wake Island, Nauru, Midway and Honolulu were all owned and professionally by Pan American Airways who probably knew more about wireless radio operations than anyone at the time. The Itasca was a US Coast Guard ship. Several of the broadcasts were substantiated by multiple stations.
There were hoaxes for sure, but they were from people reporting that they had heard things when they really hadn’t.
blueb0g@reddit
Where are you getting this from? The vast majority of researchers think she died when she ran out of fuel. There are no reliable reports of a voice being heard over the radio by anyone close enough to have heard, just possible weak transmissions with no discernible voice. It is thought that many of these reported signals were other stations trying to call her on the aircraft's frequency. You've been reading some unreliable accounts.
chuckop@reddit
There were many hoaxes. But there were receptions recorded by Pam Am radiotelephone operators throughout the Pacific, who were motivated to help find one of their own, Fred Noonan.
blueb0g@reddit
Yes, and none of them ever confirmed as genuinely from the aircraft
chuckop@reddit
True, but unless Fred Noonan walked up said “I sent that” you can’t know.
I just put the Pam Am operator reports into the “more credible” category.
MadjLuftwaffe@reddit
What do you think happened to her then,do you think she was captured by the Japanese?
MandolinMagi@reddit
Why would they care? Lost plane, refuel it, let her stay overnight, good luck in the morning.
They're not going to murder someone for being lost
SignificantJacket912@reddit
It’s possible. There are some eye-witness reports that place her in Saipan in the custody of the Japanese at some point later on. This would have been in the early days of Japan conquering the Pacific prior to WW2.
It’s possible that she landed on an island, fired off her radio broadcasts, was found by the Japanese, was taken prisoner and grabbed the airplane via ship, and then something bad possibly happened to her and/or Noonan and the Japanese dumped the plane at sea to erase any evidence of her. The Japanese weren’t warm and fuzzy at that period and it’s suggested they may have thought she was a spy.
ltcterry@reddit
What's most likely? She ran out of gas reasonably close to Howland, ditched, and they perished.
MadjLuftwaffe@reddit
Yes
ImpoliteSstamina@reddit
He's making a leap, but if it is an Model 10 Electra it about has to be Earhart's - Lockheed only made 149 of them and they're pretty well accounted for, especially in that part of the Pacific.
I'm no sonar expert but if they're right about what they're picking up, they've got it.
redefinedwoody@reddit
Intelligence is basically coming up with ideas from a variety of inconclusive sources. So sounds about right for an analyst 1+1=banana.
bauple58@reddit
Here we go again
MJ_Brutus@reddit
Sixteen thousand feet down.
Forget about it.
QuirkyFax9206@reddit
Looks more like a Mig-17, but it could be crumpled and sitting at an angle.
justfredd@reddit
Tail looks way too big though
Ancient-Concern@reddit
Fred Noonan: The most forgotten man in history. ( and maybe Michael Collins)
roehnin@reddit
I always thought Collins was the bravest of the three because he had to circle around the back side of the moon in the dark with no connection to any other living thing and radio blocked by the Moon.
What an amazing solo experience.
Substantial_Net_2813@reddit
Dude got to blast into space, fly to the moon, and see it up close with his own eyes. Sounds pretty awesome to me.
BenjaminaAU@reddit
Having a solid 50 minutes of peace and quiet with nobody to interrupt you? Sounds like heaven. (Pity that Collins missed a lot of stuff happening on the surface, because he was on the back side of the Moon at the time.)
Level_Bookkeeper5681@reddit
Here's a more measured take- dude says it could be her plane or a string of rocks.
acexprt@reddit
SCAM. They do this so they can sell a documentary and fund the expedition so they can make some quick cash. How many times have you seen those docs on history or discovery channel where they are searching for something and turn up with nothing. Also, didn’t they find stuff of hers on an island and suggest that everything else would have been lost to time?
boomshtick676@reddit
Not super keyed into this saga so I can't speak with any real authority, but there was some navigation gear found on another island with a skeleton. Skeleton was later determined to be similar height but male -- and then the bones were lost so subsequent confirmation was impossible, then maybe found again, maybe confirmed through DNA testing to be male. Most critically, serial numbers on the navigation gear traced it to a WWI-era naval crew.
BlueTeamMember@reddit
Check Engine Light
I'll show my own way out...
stanerd@reddit
The boring explanation is usually the correct one... and that would be that her navigator Fred was incompetent and couldn't properly locate Howland Island, so Amelia kept flying the plane until it ran out of fuel and they crashed in the ocean and died. So the plane is probably either at the bottom of the big ocean somewhere either intact or in pieces. It may have rusted away by now. The yellow plane in the sonar image doesn't look like it though due to the wing shape being different. I'd love to be wrong though.
a-random-task@reddit
Wouldn’t the Japanese have kept records or someone have known if she was captured by the Japanese. I’d believe Japan would have given this information out by now.
jaehaerys48@reddit
The Japanese did burn some records at the end of the war so it’s possible those could have been lost.
That being said I don’t give much credence to the Japan theory. “They could have been involved” isn’t evidence that they were involved.
TomLondra@reddit
Amazing- a Lockheed Electra 10e with SWEPT WINGS.
ImpoliteSstamina@reddit
She would've hit the water at speed, I'm far from convinced this is real but if it is it'd be more surprising for the plane to have maintained its original shape
shotputlover@reddit
No way her aircraft would be in one piece and plane shaped still
WeatherWindfall@reddit
Cool; now find Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 👍🏻
industrock@reddit
Bunch of stuff has washed up on Mauritius and mainland Africa if I’m remembering correctly
RedditBurner_5225@reddit
No kidding.
gregs1020@reddit
Anyone interested in Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan's fates, a very good read is Mike Campbel's "The truth at last, second edition". Mike takes into account past research and interviews with witnesses and new(er) ones. It's an excellent read.
Long story short, this image is not the Electra.
FruitbatNT@reddit
Or maybe it is. And he’ll need to release a 3rd edition.
gregs1020@reddit
i'd wager it's a call for funding.
jaehaerys48@reddit
Earhart mystery is kinda like the Jack the Ripper of aviation. Every few years someone comes out with a new theory claiming to have cracked the case. The story makes the rounds on the news, some books or whatever gets sold, and then everyone moves on until it's time to do it all over again.
Messyfingers@reddit
That's the thing, every treasure hunter hack gives it a go, finds nothing and then goes on a publicity tour to get as much money as they can before the simplest amount of scrutiny disproves the theory. It's all just a bug cycle of grift.
ElSquibbonator@reddit
I thought the going hypothesis was that she and her navigator landed on a tiny coral atoll, starved to death while waiting to be rescue, and were scavenged by coconut crabs.
ebneter@reddit
That's a popular hypothesis but it's not really supported by any evidence. The available evidence strongly suggests that she ran out of fuel over the open ocean (which is to say, most of what she was flying over) somewhere in the vicinity of Howland Island and crashed in the dark. That would not have been survivable.
Messyfingers@reddit
It's a story with zero basis, but people love the idea of trashcan lid sized crabs eating people.
DarkKitarist@reddit
I choose to believe that Amelia is on a planet somewhere in the Delta Quadrant still frozen in time waiting for a certain other awesome captain to save her...
1701anonymous1701@reddit
There’s coffee in that nebula!
brother1957@reddit
New year, new Earhart plane sighting. Happens every year.
Angry_Structure@reddit (OP)
Y’all act like I give a crap of it’s real. I’m just sharing aviation related news.
Thatisme01@reddit
Well the angry part of the username checks out
I_like_apostrophes@reddit
You ok, hon?
DamNamesTaken11@reddit
It could be any myriad of things, both manmade and natural (remember pareidolia gave us the Face on Mars).
For the news agencies to run around printing this guy’s claim that this “could” (which is doing a lot of heavy lifting) Earnhart’s Electra without any direct evidence and basically reprint his press release word for word is irresponsible at best.
Life_of1103@reddit
For the 43rd time…I hear she’s living in Fiji with Elvis
mothernaturesghost@reddit
Time to send the titan submersible 2.0
zerbey@reddit
Right now it's an object that might be a plane if you squint. I'll definitely be excited when they go back if they see the real thing, but this isn't the first time I've seen things on sonar that people get all excited about and it turns out to be a rock!
Rough-Aioli-9622@reddit
Guess they ran out of funding