Does being in a union have the same clout nowadays?

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Canipaywithclaps@reddit

…. He would probably still be out earning doctors because up until 3 years ago the doctors union was shite (although things have now changed, and we continue to strike!)

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Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit

Doctors pay is very good after a few years. They of course deserve every penny but they'll be earning far more than most

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Canipaywithclaps@reddit

Doctors pay is good after about 15-20 years, I don’t think it ever becomes ‘very good’.

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Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit

A consultant earns in excess of 100 grand lol

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Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit

More than most of us could dream of earning

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Canipaywithclaps@reddit

Most don’t put themselves in 100k debt, go through 15-20 years of training including having to move across the country multiple times

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windol1@reddit

The problem now is, most private business unions don't want to take action, they just want to take their cut of the union fee and accept anything offered.

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>Are they in it for their pocket now? I'm a rep and get paid £0.00p Any unions only have strength if the majority of a workforce are in it. I wish I had a £1 for every time someone came to me over an issue that I can only give advice on because they aren't in the union and I can't represent them. Mr Nippy nippy is right tho, HR are for the company.

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windol1@reddit

>Any unions only have strength if the majority of a workforce are in it. Which some are losing a lot of as time goes on, with all the terrible offers they accept in regards to pay and bonuses.

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Good0times@reddit

RMT, TUC, and CWU remain powerful unions. If you're working in rail, post, telecoms or education then unions are still alive and kicking. But they're dead otherwise.

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Canipaywithclaps@reddit

Does BMA get a mention?

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bigdaftdoylem@reddit

CWU are shite. Absolutely bend over backwards for BT/OR.

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Good0times@reddit

Still a pest for telent and civils

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Dazzling-Event-2450@reddit

I work for an employer and often on various matters other employees want union rep present. They do nothing and have no effect on any outcome. Just feel sorry for the gullible employees paying their subs every month. If you have a problem just talk with HR and use ACAS which is free.

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MrTobleroneLover19@reddit

Unions are rapidly becoming a thing of the past. It's a throwback to the Boomers. Unions openly admit they are powerless. All they want to do is collect fees, go for the big high profile cases that get in the news so they can collect more fees. Try approaching them with a very local problem and their response is more often than not "Well there's nothing we can actually do"

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MrNippyNippy@reddit

The only use I see for them now is personal and legal representation. HR are bastards just out to shaft on behalf of senior management - having a union rep on your side is useful.

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Tuarangi@reddit

HR is there to protect the company ultimately, yes they will help workers but only with the ultimate aim of ensuring nothing comes back against the employer

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Zennyzenny81@reddit

We certainly wouldn't have gotten as good a pay rise last year without them. But even then, the access to legal advice alone is still worth it.

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HerrFerret@reddit

I am in the UCU. I have to be honest, I don't pay enough attention to their shenanigans but. https://www.ucu.org.uk/article/13247/UCU-wins-five-year-long-USS-pension-dispute#:~:text=The%20changes%20will%20see%20the,future%20guaranteed%20pensions%20by%2035%25. Worked it out and I saw a 150 pound a month increase in my pay after pension contributions. And it also includes an additional one off contribution and better longer term rates.

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Cremilar@reddit

Unison are wank. They do fuck all if you're under band 4. Unless the media are watching, then suddenly they pull their finger out for 5 minutes. GMB are better.

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Roseberry69@reddit

RMT or BMA..... definitely bang for your buck. I'm not so convinced by NEU.

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BuBBles_the_pyro@reddit

Unions are on the rise again and more willing to show their power locally than nationally

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Non-Combatant@reddit

If you work in rail and can shut down parts of the country on a whim then yes.

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Realistic-Stay-7352@reddit

I'd always be in one but they're often led by people every bit as petty and tyrannical as management. My experiences of using them when needed is about 50:50 good & bad for individual issues but a lot better on securing better pay and conditions.

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TheHeroYouNeed247@reddit

Mine does but that's only because we have a >90% membership in our base.

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NealR2000@reddit

They had enormous power up through the 70s. Not so much now, despite their recent rise in popularity. Yes, they can provide improved conditions and benefits for its members but this has to be measured against the new global economy and automation. The short-term worker improvements may seem good, but the long-term reality of squeezing extra money out of employers is simply accelerating job losses that go overseas and automation investment.

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