The HAL Prachand, the planned future attack helicopter of the Indian Air Force and Army. The Prachand has one the highest flight ceilings of any combat helicopter at 6,500 meters, 165 are planned and 11 have been built
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wheelontour@reddit
I dont think I would ever want to fly in an Indian designed and Indian built helicopter - they cant even build a decent assault rifle.
mazda_fanboy@reddit
bruh mans living in the 90s
Argy007@reddit
He is right about assault rifle. The board that deals with infantry weapons procurement is corrupt AF, they are changing their mind every year with a dozen different types of rifles in different calibers procured in batches of tens of thousands. Same goes for their domestic tank.
That said though, their aviation, naval and rockets seem to be doing fine. Haven’t heard anything too bad regarding those.
SunSignd@reddit
It was not corruption. It was about India learning how to make a better assault rifle. They made mistakes just like the atrocious M-16 failure rates due to poor production quality. India was at the same point of the learning curve.
The choices made in calibre were based on perceived western thinking about ammo carriage and lightweight ammo which has once again shifted from 5.56 to 7.62 based on Indian experience in the Kargil war. The Insas rifle required iterative development but was as usual sabotaged by vested interests much like the Arjun tank.
The Arjun was a virtual clone of the Leopard 2 with so much German tech it was 70 percent German tech and power. Just that agains some choices and internal goalpost shifts on armour protection and gun created havoc with the program timelines. A lot of suspicion is placed on elements paid by overseas vested manufacturers who did not wish to see India gain self reliance in tanks.... A view made abundantly clear when India was forced into purchasing 2000 T90 tanks which were completely against the design requirements foisted on Arjun including power, protection and manual instead of auto loading. The key point harped on was weight. Which equalled the Abrams. In performance the Arjun beat the T90 blindfolded in range, accuracy, km without failure endurance, reverse speed and agility firing (fire on move).
In any case the learnings are going into Indias future MBT
SunSignd@reddit
Pity... Cos all the math you ever learnt was originated in India. So that kinda makes all your foundations shaky. Besides the point India with French collab designed and built the world's most high altitude helos since the 1960s....They have far far more experience than the Americans in building for altitude and operating in sub zero for so long. And even if you have a bit of a sniffy bias toward the Indian built helos.... They are the ones along with Nepal saving more Climbers lives than anywhere else in the world.... Including those two British climbers saved last week when they were stuck up a Himalayan mountain. Guess you know who to count on when your life depended on it. An Indian copter. With Indian pilots.
FerengiCharity@reddit
Due to political will and lack of enthusiasm from the Indian military
Misophonic4000@reddit
They've had a homegrown aerospace industry for quite a while, you know...
Gomes117@reddit
looks like a commanche and apache had a child. And it ate a lot of burgers
SunSignd@reddit
Not in the slightest. This is an evolution that started in 1968 with France and India and Turbomecas
meeware@reddit
That looks to have a remarkably large volume fuselage- full of yellow?
Also what design/engineering steps would be taken to maximise the ceiling?
SunSignd@reddit
The design has evolved from decades of Indian close cooperation with the French and usage of Turbomecas designed specifically to Indian Himalayan conditions. They first achieved a record in 1969 in India carrying 120 kilos to 24300 feet. Then in 1972 the height record of the Lama with the same abilities in mind created an undefeated 40814 feet record with also the highest autorotation descent ever recorded that stands to date. This was a result of merging the alouette 2 and 3. Till date India remains the highest continuous operator and manufacturer of these high altitude types. Which has translated into Prachand capabilities
Vast-Room-4592@reddit
Lighter design, more agile and because of less weight engine can keep up with thin aur and higher ceiling, and additional sensors to make sure engine and systems work on less air and high altitude that's why it's compact and light
John_Oakman@reddit
The landing gear looked like it's tacked on at the last minute, almost as if the engineers had forgotten about needing those. Otherwise it looks like a really sleek design.
SunSignd@reddit
It is actually a design feature for rough operations and has been pioneered by helos like the Rooivalk. Enhances ability to land safely in Rocky terrain without rocking the fuselage or compromising strength with constant flex
meeware@reddit
Standard design for wheeled battlefield types- absorbs the stresses of excessive speed landings well- apache and others have similar.
SirDerpMcMemeington@reddit
The chief engineer accidentally brought his kid’s drawings to the presentation instead of the folder with the actual designs, and had to scribble on some landing gear 5 minutes before the unveiling
jar1967@reddit
6,500 meter service ceiling, It doesn't take a genius to figure out where that thing was intended to fight
RoutineTraditional79@reddit
Where? I’m missing something here
SunSignd@reddit
India has long border with China along Himalaya range extending for thousands of km. Plus it borders Pakistan on the NorthWest with a particularly high and difficult part called the Siachen Glacier which is basically the highest battlefield in the world and nearly always several degrees below minus till about 45 or so. It is supplied for decades by helicopter
IncapableKakistocrat@reddit
Kashmir. India has border disputes there with Pakistan and China.
lclarkenz@reddit
Those borders that run along glaciers are apparently super important.
jar1967@reddit
Important is an understatement.
Secundius@reddit
Probably to counter Chinese-made ZTQ-15 High-Altitude Light Tanks, which ebtered service in 2017...
PhaseIllustrious@reddit
AFAIK it was explicitly tested there to ensure it could keep up with the altitude.
rockstar450rox@reddit
Didnt the government already spend 6 billion tax dollars on a new helo that they never used?
TheDeaconAscended@reddit
Just in time for China's new tanks designed to fight at high altitude plateaus.