NYC or Copenhagen | TheaterFire

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Temporary_Bliss@reddit

NYC is a one of a kind city. Copenhagen is clean and safe. High floor in terms of life, but low ceiling.

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I'd be extremely cautious about moving to Copenhagen without a job lined up. It's notoriously hard for foreigners to get jobs in Copenhagen, and plenty of foreigners move there and end up spending months or years job searching (and burning through their funds). This includes EU citizens who are not Danish. I would not assume that it'll be an easy transition because of your degrees. Education is free for Danes, and it is normal if not expected for people to have a masters degree or phd. And, the country is small, which means there are generally fewer jobs. If you have a professional network in Copenhagen they may be able to help you find work, but I'd consider whether your expectations are realistic and how long you can support yourself without a job there.

If you can get a job there, and you can tolerate the weather and the insularity, Copenhagen can offer a really great lifestyle. The lifestyle may not have the excitement you want, but it is fun, you can walk or cycle everywhere, and it's a great place to start a family. You will always be an outsider, but if you like your lifestyle enough that can be ok.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Aren’t native English speakers sought after in business in Europe?

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Chea63@reddit

When it comes to Coppeghean, English is way too common to be a big selling point in and of itself.

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NopityNopeNope31@reddit

Perhaps elsewhere in Europe but not in Denmark generally and certainly not in Copenhagen. Denmark has some of the highest rates of English fluency in the world for ESL. This is a few years old but the point stands. I'm sure you can find more recent data if you look.

Between Danes' excellent English, employees or collaborators in other countries, and technology, there are few roles in Denmark that prioritize native English or even value it much. Most jobs don't actually need native English, they need fluent English, and most Danes have that. Plus the Danes have fluent Danish, cultural alignment with Danish norms, and Danish names.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

That’s a very good point. Thank you!

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caiserzoze@reddit

I lived for 2 glorious years in the NYC in my early 20s. 20 years later, I cannot imagine living in New York in my 40s….New York City is still the greatest city on Earth IMO but I unless I was seriously wealthy, I can’t imagine living there now.

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LudicrousPlatypus@reddit

Personally, I would really recommend moving to NYC over Copenhagen.

The upward career mobility is much greater in NYC. Also NYC will be much better socially if you are from the US. There will be much more to do and it will be much easier to make friends compared to Denmark (which is a notoriously difficult place for expats to make friends).

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Why do you think the social scene is difficult to break into in Copenhagen? I’ve met danish people on holiday and they seemed quite open but I get that might just be a vacation mentality.

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Time_Significance386@reddit

Everyone is making friends on vacation, so don't depend on that experience. People move in and out of New York constantly, so it's always easy to find people looking for friends. Europeans don't move around as much, and are more likely to stick with the same social groups they've had since they were in school.

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According_Homework31@reddit

Scandinavian countries are notorious for having very tight knit social circles. They have small groups of very loyal friends and family and it can be difficult to be accepted into those circles. Being social as a personality trait is different

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Ooh. Ok. Noted. Thank you.

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Turbulent-Road-7925@reddit

NYC all day. The Nordics are social suicide. They'll pay you to have kids but I have serious doubts that's sustainable given all the people retiring

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gravycatscan@reddit

Lived in NYC for 16 years and have been in Copenhagen for 8 (having moved here in my late 30s). While you can walk or bike (Cph) to most everything, it really depends on how exciting you want your everyday life to be. NYC is absolutely unlimited in everything, CPH is way way more low key and while there are some goings-on its way harder to meet people and get integrated, but it’s good you already know people here. The culture can feel very closed off and while Danes are friendly, they tend to stick to their friend group they’ve had since birth.

I made the choice to move to CPH as I’d had a pretty social wild time in NYC and wanted to opt for something more low key. So I guess you should really ask yourself how social you want to be.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

I’d say fairly social. I used to go out all the time in Chicago, Budapest, and Saint Petersburg. But now I’m realizing I’d like to go out more than I’m doing now but maybe less than I used to do. Is Copenhagen really that bad for social scenes?

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gravycatscan@reddit

It’s not if you easily make friends! I am fairly social, but my danish partner also came with a great set of friends I befriended on my own, so that helped. But it’s not like the states where you can roll up into a bar and just befriend most people, not saying it won’t happen but the likelihood is slim. My partner, still struggles with me inviting people at random to things to join us. The more the merrier is unfortunately hard to come by here. I love a lot of things here, but that part really makes me sad.

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Alternative_Belt_389@reddit

Life in nyc can be hell. They expect you to work 24 7, apartments are super tiny with astronomical rents, and the cost of living is insane. High salaries but factor in healthcare as well. I'm from there and don't recommend it

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justanotherlostgirl@reddit

Seconding this - the cost is quickly becoming a reason to move. I’ll miss it but don’t see how to actually thrive here

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sunshiineceedub@reddit

not sure if you grew up in italy or us but my husband(italian) and i (us)have split our time between california and italy the last 6 years and ended up moving to nyc. we love it. i sincerely don’t want to be anywhere else. if you have any specific questions feel free to message me

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LuckyAd4235@reddit

Do you recommend immigrating to Italy? What are the current problems in Italy for life?

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sunshiineceedub@reddit

i mean there are absolutely no job opportunities so that’s hard on the population for italians- additionally their salaries are low. a lot of younger italians have gone elsewhere to try and find work. i love italy its really and truly the best and we hope to live long term in italy but its not easy. the food is incredible and inexpensive and its great for families. for example- in the us im allergic to dairy and often have food allergies- potatoes etc and in italy i never have had any issues.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Thanks! I’ll do that. I think my biggest fear regarding NYC is affordability. Also, the dating scene since I’m a little late to the game in that respect. I keep hearing about how NYC is considered a rich kid paradise where either rich parents are footing the bill or you’re working all the time. I feel like LA is like that and I definitely don’t enjoy that mentality. Have you found this to be an issue in NYC?

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sunshiineceedub@reddit

i haven’t seen that in the same way as LA but i do think that depends on the neighborhoods/cost. it’s definitely a thing though no doubt. dating i can’t speak on but there are subreddits (ie r/brooklyn) that talk about dating often!

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Constantia789@reddit

Will you still work in ESL? I am partial to NYC and if you want to stay in ESL then I highly recommend- they are looking for teachers with the increase in asylum-seekers in the city. NYC has gotten really expensive but the salaries have also increased in most sectors. You still might struggle but if it’s fun and excitement you want, you can’t beat it.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

I used to work in ESL. But my skillset has expanded to other things that pay better. So it’s unlikely that I’ll go back to ESL anytime soon.

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notthegoatseguy@reddit

Do you speak Danish?

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

I do not speak Danish but I’m open to learning. My friends who live there have told me it’s not exactly necessary to live in Copenhagen.

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NopityNopeNope31@reddit

This is correct. It's not strictly necessary to speak Danish to live in Copenhagen. You will have to learn to translate a lot of formal written stuff, but technology makes so much of that more manageable. But, you will end up paying more for things and having fewer options if you don't speak Danish, so most foreigners who plan to stay do make an effort to learn Danish even if they speak English in their day-to-day at work and with friends.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

That’s good to know. Thanks!

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notthegoatseguy@reddit

Will you be able to understand a lease if it's only in the local language? Communicate details about your health to medical staff? If you ever need to communicate with a lawyer or law enforcement, how will you do that?

I'm sure you'll be able to order a coffee in English though

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Are you speaking from Danish experience? A quick google search tells me that 86% of Danes speak English as a second language and I’m sure that percentage increases in an urban environment like Copenhagen.

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look2thecookie@reddit

That's my main question (aside from how they said their "age.")

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Technical-Monk-2146@reddit

The age thing hit me. As a NYer I want to say pick Copenhagen. We don’t need your I’m 30 well really 40 (45? 50?) but don’t look it self here.

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look2thecookie@reddit

Sounds like they'll be wandering around jobless since they don't speak the native language. I don't think either place wants them.

People look like a variety of things at the same age. It's not like you turn 40 and morph into a goblin.

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_jdd_@reddit

NYC first for a career boost and experience, then Copenhagen when you're ready to start a family?

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Yeah. That would be ideal if I were a bit younger. But I feel like I’m on the edge of missing out on a family life if I wait for too much longer.

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_jdd_@reddit

That's fair. Struggling to see how having kids in NYC is viable (at least compared to Copenhagen) unless you're making plenty of money.

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crazycrawfish5@reddit

Are you open to only those two cities?

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

I’m open to others. I just have a wider social circle in Copenhagen.

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OstrichNo8519@reddit

I, personally, would choose Europe. Probably not Copenhagen (very expensive, the weather, apparently difficult to integrate), but that’s just me.

I get what people are saying about NYC and career progression, but I also don’t really find that to be true necessarily. I’ve progressed just as well in my career in Europe (Barcelona and Prague) as I would have in the US … probably better actually. Native English is still highly regarded, especially when visa sponsorship isn’t needed and I believe that that gave me something over other applicants in certain cases. Obviously, my salary isn’t as high in the Czech Republic as it would be in the US, but I feel I’m able to do more with less living in Europe.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Did you speak the native language before moving? I fear that might pose as an issue for me as I do not yet speak Danish.

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OstrichNo8519@reddit

In Spain, yes. I spoke Spanish, but not Catalan. That came pretty quickly, though. I moved to Prague for a job so I didn’t have any time to learn Czech beforehand. Even now, 7 years later, I don’t speak it as well as I would like and it does get in the way with a number of things. The level of English in Denmark is far above that of the Czech Republic, though, so I don’t think it would be an issue in daily life. BUT I will say that I’ve read from others that finding a job there without Danish can be difficult as the level of English among locals is already so high, that your native English won’t really be a bonus for them. I was to reiterate, though, that I have never lived there and only visited Copenhagen once like 8 years ago so I’m only passing on things I’ve heard/read.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the insights!

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

Edit: I feel I may have offended some people with my age comment that was only meant to give context. I know many 30year olds who complain about feeling old and that their body is falling apart. I was trying to say that I feel pretty good in my body and would be prepared for a possible rough move. And since I’m late to the game in the dating world I also don’t know if dating older is a thing in Denmark. Where I’m originally from, dating past 35 isn’t really a thing.

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SGlobal_444@reddit

Where can you get a job? Where do you feel most energized?

Did you get a feel for LA before moving there?

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

LA post-Covid is really different than the LA I got a feel for. This city really has become more insular and I don’t see it giving itself the opportunity to heal anytime soon.

I’m pretty confident I can find a job anywhere as long as I’ve got feet on the ground. Finding a job remotely has been challenging for me.

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gringosean@reddit

I lived in Copenhagen and it’s amazing, but I would pick NYC if your only language is English.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

I speak Spanish, French, some Russian and Hungarian. But I don’t speak any Danish. I’m open to learning but have been told it’s not really necessary in Copenhagen

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bellcrooks@reddit

CPH is a pretty great city. I was thinking about moving there so I spent 2 months there over the summer. After my time there, I don’t think I would move there as a single person. It is fun, people are friendly, and there is a lot to do but it’s a very insular culture. Meaning that, it becomes difficult to truly ingratiate yourself there unless you speak Danish or have made close Danish friends who are willing to extend their social circle to include you. I also found the job market difficult to break into.. if I was able to get a job I would consider moving there.

You also have to consider the weather, the winters are miserable so if you can’t handle living in dark and dreary conditions for 4-6 months of the year, it might not be for you.

If you’re a person of color you may feel particularly ostracized depending on which part of the city you end up in.

Never lived in NYC but I think other commenters have offered sufficient color there.

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snazzykaykay@reddit (OP)

I lived in Saint Petersburg for a winter and they get no sun for months. It wasn’t fun but I definitely found a charm to it eventually. But you’re right, finding a place that is welcoming might be a better option as friends and relationships are a huge part of what makes a place enjoyable. I was under the impression that native English speakers are sought after in business. Is that not true?

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carbonpeach@reddit

As a Dane, I have to agree. If you're white, Denmark is fine. If you're any shade of brown, life gets harder. Copenhagen is more open-minded, but it can still be difficult at times.

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bellcrooks@reddit

Yes! Danes I made friends with, white and black, totally agreed with me. Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoyed my time there but it is something to consider if moving there.

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acuna134070@reddit

Stop saying that dumbass shit. Every black person I know who's been to Copenhagen loved it. One in particular said it's the best city he's been to & he strongly recommended it. Stop victimizing dickhead.

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bellcrooks@reddit

Reporting your comment for breaking the rule that we be nice to each other :)

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bellcrooks@reddit

Lol you’re a weirdo.

Firstly, I can say whatever I want.

Secondly, individuals can have different experiences. I spoke from my experience. I did not assert that this was a definite as I said you MAY feel ostracized.

Thirdly, visiting somewhere is different from living there. I met Black people living there who liked the city but did feel ostracized.

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NoMoeUsernamesLeft@reddit

Unless you have a lot of money, NYC sucks balls. It's expensive and a lot of work to do anything. The only benefit I see is the potential for high pay and public transportation. But Copenhagen has better transportation.

Oh and the vacation: you get 25 days off a year in Denmark. In NYC there is no law requiring your employer to give you any days off. The maximum you will get is 10 days if you're lucky.

So if you wanna kill yourself working and spend over half of that on rent, NYC welcomes you. You need at least $100,000 per year to feel comfortable.

Source: lived there for 10 years ☠️

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Training-Bake-4004@reddit

I can’t comment on living in those cities. But I’d start by applying for jobs in both of them and then letting that guide the decision.

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SweetAlyssumm@reddit

Here on reddit, I read about someone who had to move back to the US because they got caught in a layoff in that first three months with no worker protections. They had funded their own move! Make sure you look into that -- that person was not told that a layoff would result in them being cut loose with nothing - no severance, no unemployment, no payback for moving expenses. The manager just said that it was a probationary period and not to worry.

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OstrichNo8519@reddit

Just to clarify a bit about the probation period … I obviously don’t know the specifics of that person’s situation, but generally in the EU you have a 3-6 month probation period when you start a job (can be more for managers). During that time the company can let you go without notice or reason and you can leave without notice or reason. Being let go during that time isn’t really considered a layoff since it’s a trial period for both the employee and the company. You do have benefits and things during the probation period, but usually not full benefits (always health insurance, though) until you’re out of that period. It is true, though, that they don’t generally pay you anything if you’re let go during it.

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SweetAlyssumm@reddit

There was a long post about this. The person was in the three month trial period (it was three, not six in this case). There was a layoff. The person had to leave and either look for a job in Europe or go home. They tried in Europe but found nothing so they packed up (pets, kids, everything) and went back to the US. (They had just spent 9K transporting their pets!)

The hiring manager described the trial period as something the candidate did not have to worry about as they were qualified. So they took the job but a layoff was not anticipated (I'm guessing the hiring manager did not know - it was probably from a few levels above the hiring manager).

The person who wrote the post described the situation as a layoff. It was not them being let go because they were inadequate, but a structural layoff. They had no protection because of the three month time frame.

They said if they ever take a job in Europe again they would add language to the contract to protect against what happened to them

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South-Beautiful-5135@reddit

That’s why you only completely move after the trial period

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SweetAlyssumm@reddit

Unfortunately the person was led to believe "No problem" by the company. The would-be immigrant learned an expensive lesson.

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OstrichNo8519@reddit

I’m not surprised that the manager said not to worry about the probation period. I’ve been in Europe for a decade and have never known of anyone actually being let go during that time. I have known people to leave the job during the probation period because they didn’t like it, but never a company letting someone go. Obviously, it must happen sometimes, but it’s not something I’ve ever actually seen happen. I guess they must have had a European citizenship, too? If a company was sponsoring them, then that’d be crazy to let them go after going through all of that. Damn.

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SweetAlyssumm@reddit

They had to let them go, It was a layoff. In a layoff they designate a group of employees who will be let go. Often it's a whole group whose function they don't think they need anymore. The hiring manager could not retain this person under those circumstances.

I'm sure the manager felt bad, but they didn't offer any compensation for the huge moving costs. The OP said next time (if there is a next time) they will investigate much more carefully and not just believe the manager who did not explain all the possible contingencies of the three month trial.

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OstrichNo8519@reddit

Yeah I get it. I’m just thinking like, what a waste of time and money if they were sponsoring a visa. That is a really shitty situation. Especially with kids and pets!

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1-Hermit@reddit

United States ! It’s a paradise on Earth. People dream of it and you want to leave it !! Unbelievable.

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meshyl@reddit

For a short adventure, 1-2 years, sure Copenhagen might be fun. But long term I wouldn't recommend it. It's fun, people are nice and handsome, but living there long term can be depressing if you are not used to Northern Europe. 6-8 months of winter and even summer is not a real summer there. Salaries are low in comparison to US. People are nice, but it's difficult to make friends.

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ItsaMeNotMario111@reddit

I have lived in both, currently in Copenhagen. CPH is a fairly safe city where not a lot happens. NYC is a much livelier city. If you’re used to the American things that are available to you now, Copenhagen will seem very limiting.

Quality of life is better in Copenhagen IMO. I don’t have to pay for doctor visits but it’s very expensive and selection of everything is mediocre here. NYC has everything except cheap rent. Crime is bad in NYC.

Personally I choose Copenhagen.

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Easy-F@reddit

NYC is an outdoor mall for rich 20 year olds these days

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wontcook@reddit

Everyone’s downvoting you but you’re right.

Used to live in NYC — absolutely loved it, I thrived there. But went recently and it’s completely washed. I wouldn’t move back.

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Easy-F@reddit

yeah it’s a damn shame honestly

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TarquinOliverNimrod@reddit

I grew up in NYC, currently live here, but I used to spend an extended amount of time in Copenhagen when I lived in Brussels. I would personally go to Copenhagen. If you’re counting walkability, I think Copenhagen is more walkable than NYC. If you prioritise work life balance, Denmark will trump the US hands down. The only negative really for Copenhagen would be the weather and the winters.

Danish people temperamentally are quite reserved, they are not necessarily forthcoming though they are very respectful. NYC, you don’t know what you will find. Though I think the social scene here is a little bit too forced—as an American I always found it easier to make friends in Europe.

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Easy-F@reddit

forced is an interesting way to put it yeah. I agree. I got bored with the… ‘scheduled fun’ and performative kind of nature of it and longed for something more relaxed and casual… and more genuinely friendly.. if that makes any sense.

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look2thecookie@reddit

Move to New York once, but leave before it makes you hard.

Move to San Francisco once, but leave before it makes you soft.

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djdan9@reddit

Why and how does NYC make u hard?? Curious

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Easy-F@reddit

people are tough and generally unfriendly (not necessarily in passing, but deep down). people who live there for a long time become kind of jaded and isolated in the long term, and hard to be really deep friends with. it hardens people.

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look2thecookie@reddit

It's a song quote

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ulayanibecha@reddit

Also what’s with the age denial ☠️

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ulayanibecha@reddit

Copenhagen is boring as fuck and the weather sucks, I’d take NYC any day

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iinaytanii@reddit

I’m still laughing at that age thing.

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Jolly-Bit-1652@reddit

Right?! “I’m 40, but I identify as a person in their 30s, so I’m in my 30s” 😂

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wontcook@reddit

“i’m 40 but i don’t look it!” got me lol

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Embarrassed-Cow-9723@reddit

what is this Schrödinger‘s age? Are you 30 or 40?

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alexunderwater1@reddit

Whichever one has a job.

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Beneficial_Tackle655@reddit

NYC all the way. There’s so much to discover in that city alone, and it’d be a lot less hassle to move within a country. If you don’t like it after a year or two, then you can look into Copenhagen again.

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LeftReflection6620@reddit

I live in NYC. I love Italian culture and travel there often but I also love that there’s so much Italian culture in nyc. You can speak the language at almost every restaurant and you hear it on the streets somewhat often. NYC has something for everyone. Having jfk as your airport makes the world a lot closer too.

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zinfandelbruschetta@reddit

Copenhagen

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firerosearien@reddit

I've lived in NYC and been to Copenhagen twice

NYC

Pros
Most populous city in the US, whatever your interest, there is a group or club you can get involved with

Three major airports within an uber/public transit distance that lets you fly most places in the world non-stop.

All signage in English (most in other languages, especialy Spanish and Chinese, as well)

More balanced seasons in terms of daylight - Madrid, Naples, and Istanbul are on or near the same latitude. Yes, the sun sets too early in the winter, but about an hour later than that in Copenhagen.

Diverse population with every culture and cuisine imaginable

Cons

The city doesn't handle rain storms or large snowfalls very well, especially outside of Manhattan

The cost of living is incredibly expensive, even in the suburbs; I knew people in their 30s who still lived with roommates to make ends meet

Cold and damp in the winter, hot and muggy in the summer. The nicest months are generally May and September.

While an incredibly blue city you are still in the US and have to deal with the US healthcare system

Lots of parts of the city aren't bikeable

Public transit is excellent for the US, but trash compared to most of Europe

Copenhagen

Pros:

Super safe! As a single female I never felt unsafe.

Tons of history, if that's an interest (it's a huge one for me)

Super late sunsets in the summer.

Denmark is routinely rated as being among the highest quality of life and happiest countries in the world, this isn't without reason. It's got a super strong social safety net, although I don't know how easy that is to access as an Italian passport holder.

Europe's public transit on the whole blows the US out of water, especially if you like trains.

Doesn't get as hot in the summer; I think winter temps are about equal.

Cons - my list here is limited because I've only been there as a tourist -

The big one is the super short days in the winter. I don't know where in Russia or what time of year you were there, but I know that lack of daylight in winter is a serious issue for me.

Also, Danish culture isn't American culture (or even NYC culture), and there would definitely be some culture shock when you first move. That said, I don't think it'd be so much that you couldn't adjust pretty quickly.

If I had to make the choice between the two, I'm actually not sure which I'd choose, but if I was looking for a place to put down roots and I had access to the social services, I'd choose the one with universal healthcare, paid vacation, and paid maternity leave.

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ApprehensiveStudy671@reddit

If I were you, the US would be my first choice and in the US, I'd pick either, NYC, Chicago or other cities such as Boston, Houston.....taking into account the climate, weather etc....

New York can be an amazing city if you can afford its nicer neighborhoods.

In Europe I'd go with larger and more cosmopolitan cities such as Amsterdam, Brussels where English in widely spoken. I'd recommend London for sure (I love it) but it's outside the EU now.

As a Canadian living in Southern Europe and as someone who lived in Dublin and London, and knowing the US pretty well, I'd definitely suggest the US as a place to live. Tons of states, cities and regions as well as diverse climate, to choose from. Tons of working opportunities and good wages.

Most interesting and large cities or capitals in Europ, are expensive nowadays just like New York. But again, if you can afford living in a decent area of NY, I wouldn't even doubt it for a second. It's the place to be.

Ironically, I love Los Angeles. Got many friends and relatives in California (those of us from Canada, seek warm and sunny weather...) and those friends who moved to Dan Diego, just love it.

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dan_arth@reddit

I LOVE Dan Diego

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Asthellis@reddit

Yeah, we all know the walkability of NYC.

Go anywhere in Europe pretty much.

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L6b1@reddit

As an ESL teacher, nothing in Denmark.

As a design engineer. There are tons of fantastic roles in Denmark. You will eventually need to learn to speak Danish. It's a 500 hour language and farily close to English. Grammar and vocabulary are easily grasped by native English speakers. The pronunciation though is the killer part. Brutally difficult to master.

I love Copenhagen and lived there about 6 months. The hardest part is the winter. Technically, the sun rises for 4 hours during the heart of winter. In reality, it's more like 30 minutes of foggy haze. The lack of light is rough, really, really rough. Summers are simply magical with the long lovely days.

Think about how well you handle darkness and the lack of sunlight. That's usually the part that gets most people. Worst case scenario, you do a few yearsin in CPN, don't like it and take your experience to NYC or another city.

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hudibrastic@reddit

when I think of Copenhagen excitement is not one of the words that come to my mind

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wyldstallionesquire@reddit

Copenhagen is super fun. Not sure what you’re saying

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bellcrooks@reddit

Fun and exciting are not the same thing. I would agree that CPH is fun but not exciting.

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KwaMzoli@reddit

Copenhagen. Do it!

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barren_field_of_fks@reddit

NYC is ferociously expensive and so unless you are ultra wealthy will need to compromise on most areas of quality of life.

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AdvantageBig568@reddit

LA to Copenhagen is such a massive change just weather wise.

Copenhagen is so depressing for most of the year in terms of weather and general ambience, I think Hygge or whatever they say is just them trying to look on bright side. But some people love this weather.

Also Danes aren’t sociable, Americans can struggle with this but you’ve lived in Eastern Europe and Russia so maybe you know the drill.

I’d probably go NYC, even as someone who didn’t love it. It’s got more variety.

Madrid is a nice middle ground of European, young and creative. But Spanish would be necessary for your field I would guess.

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McFuzzyChipmunk@reddit

You have the opptunity to live in one of the most human friendly cites in the world with amazing public transit and connections to the wider world or NYC. I definitely know I would pick Copenhagen but I may be biased against the US.

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AdvantageBig568@reddit

LA to Copenhagen is such a massive change just weather wise.

Copenhagen is so depressing for most of the year in terms of weather and general ambience, I think Hygge or whatever they say is just them trying to look on bright side. But some people love this weather.

Also Danes aren’t sociable, Americans can struggle with this but you’ve lived in Eastern Europe and Russia so maybe you know the drill.

I’d probably go NYC, even as someone who didn’t love it. It’s got more variety.

Madrid is a nice middle ground of European, young and creative. But Spanish would be necessary for your field I would guess.