Toyota Motor Corporation utilizes 2 stage airbag technology based off a sensor in the seat that measures weight. This is to tell the differences between a bag of groceries, an infant car seat, or an adult human. As you can guess, the first stage is for lighter occupants while the second stage is to slow down the mass associated with adults.
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Sorry for being out of topic just wanna know some opinion. Which would be better to choose a car brand these days, Toyota or Nissan?
P.S. These two are my preferred brands for now.
Minor compared to the dangers caused by Toyota LED headlights. 4 Runners should be pulled from the roads for this reason. LED rays straight into the eyes of oncoming motorists, pedestrians and cyclists. Killers.
So my 2021 Corolla is affected by this, but according to Toyota’s recall website they are not going to have the parts available for repair until Q3 of 2024. So that’s fun.
No, they don't deploy if the weight is lower than X amount, it's a child safety thing, has been around for ages. In this case the airbag may not deploy even with an adult in the seat, which is obviously bad.
There actually is an adjustment, most airbags nowadays are dual stage. There are two charges and two circuits to a single airbag and it changes deployment strategies depending on occupant classification and impact severity. A lot of cars even use position sensors in the driver’s seat to account for the driver’s size.
I stand corrected, didn't realize toyota used dual-stage airbags yet, it seems they do, very very very little documentation about it but found a few in literature
as a petite adult, this is pretty concerning :( a lot of my friends & family have these vehicles. i’ve ran into this issue with many other manufacturers (not setting off the airbag sensor).
my vehicle isn’t one of the affected, thankfully.
https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/recall/recalls-and-faqs/22c20-maverick-2022-side-curtain-airbag-recall/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/ford-recalls-310000-more-vehicles-to-fix-problem-with-drivers-front-air-bag
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/03/02/ford-ranger-takata-airbag-recall/
Generally not airbag recalls, you say?
If you like, I can spend more than 45 seconds finding more.
2004 through 2011 Ford Ranger pickup trucks
• 2007 through 2010 Ford Edge and Lincoln MKX SUVs
• 2008 through 2012 Ford Fusion sedans
• 2009 through 2011 Mercury Milan sedans
• 2010 through 2012 Lincoln MKZ sedans
• 2005 through 2014 Ford Mustang coupes and convertibles
• 2006 Ford GT sports cars
To be clear, my list was independent of Takata recalls.
The rangers were recalled because technicians didn't read the manual and installed the replacement Takata bags improperly.
The Takata airbag thing took the entire industry by surprise, so I don't think it's fair to blame Ford for that one.
Improperly fixing it because of technician errors - that IS on Ford.
Yeah, it's just other not dangerous stuff like driveshafts on explorers and f250/350s and f150 seatbelts that can start fires and transmissions that indicate they are in park when they arent, and diesel fuel leaks and detaching steering wheels.
Little things like that.
There were a lot of auto manufacturers affected by the airbags because it was the same company (Takata) making them for about half the vehicles sold in the world.
Ford has had its fair share of dangerous recalls throughout history.
For sure. I wrote without thinking and only based it on my own experience which is obviously not representative. Built ford rough is the joke for a reason.
They made 39 million Corrolas alone so 1.1 across a few models is nothing. It's a tiny portion of their cars ever produced. So yeah they are vigilant about it.
IIRC the dual-stage bags were around 2000.
Anecdotally I think the early Toyota bags were *extremely* loud when they went off. It was a common complaint against that particular brand back when I used to see a lot of crashes of them. "I'm a little sore, and I'll heal-up, but y'all need to pay me X dollars for the tinnitus".
obligatory: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Unlike Tesla, most recalls for other manufacturers require you to go to the dealer - oftentimes even when it is just a software update.
This is because not all the software in the car is completely connected. Many modules are almost completely self containing, so you have to physically hook up to that module to update the software.
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These vehicles may inaccurately assess the occupant’s size in the passenger seat, potentially leading to the airbag not deploying as intended.
The recall covers 1.12 million worldwide, one million of which are located in the United States. It affects certain Toyota Avalon, Camry, Corolla, RAV4, Highlanders, and Sienna Hybrids, as well as certain Lexus ES250, ES300H, and RX350s from 2020-2022 model years.
Wow. Add another thing to the list for my 21 use hybrid rav4. Already got an extended warranty for a leaking roof and had mirrors shaking like crazy when the car was delivered. 21k miles and has been back to the dealer 4 times!
Got my rav4 hybrid limited late 2021 after the most stressful car buying experience of my life. Thank fuck I don't have to take to my out of town dealership for this
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