The AK-22 chambered for 6.02x41mm
Posted by Nastyfaction@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Posted by Nastyfaction@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Nero_Team-Aardwolf@reddit
Wobble handguard as well man those russians…
Argy007@reddit
When will they finally learn that a free floated handguard made of unreinforced polymer is not the way to go? Why not extend the handguard to the front sight too?
dicecop@reddit
The handguard has been fixed on the 2023 model. This rifle is just a trial rifle made based on the 2022 design. They are testing the bullet ballistics with it, not whether the soyboy soldier's fingers are crooked or not
DweebInFlames@reddit
Because an extended handguard would look terrible, duh.
Let's be honest, this is mostly a vanity project, same as the AK-12 and its derivatives in general. Absolutely hilarious that a 74M with Zenitco parts is the better rifle despite it being a clunky retrofit of an obsolescent design.
Wrangel_5989@reddit
The fact that they also developed a better rifle with the AKV-521 shows that they can fix the flaws of the AK which limit it from being a modern rifle, but they simply choose not to adopt good designs.
Kush-Ta@reddit
Cost and weight are probably the reason the AKV-521 is not being adopted
19fall91@reddit
Cost.
Argy007@reddit
Russians should’ve just copied Galil ACE.
Kush-Ta@reddit
What the hell is so good about the Galil ACE? Does the dust cover hold zero better than the AK-12M1? I can't see how it could
DweebInFlames@reddit
Pretty much. These make for neat looking rifles for video games, but that's about it.
aisa9000@reddit
You forgot the grenade launcher.
yashatheman@reddit
Could you explain why freefloating handguard is bad? Pretty sure I get why, but isn't the handguard attached with a retainer in the front like on the AKM?
Argy007@reddit
I don’t think it has front retainer like previous handguards. This handguard doesn’t clamp that much around the barrel and gas block, relying more on the rear attachment. But it is made of unreinforced plastic hence why it wobbles around.
DumplingsAreBussin@reddit
Russians made a solid aluminium one for the newer future version of the AK12 but this one apparently didn't get the memo
Nero_Team-Aardwolf@reddit
The whole line is a joke if you ask me propaganda at it‘s finest… removed alot of features so it doesn‘t get toooo westernized and such jeez and then they presend this undercooked rifle that ironically was in developement way longer than they first wanted it to be…. Only to come out with a fire selector that can be pulled waaaay down and a wobbly front-handguard aside from bringing nothing actual new to the table… and issue them without optics which the whole point of the rail system was…. Yes it is new - yes it is slightly more modern - no that is defo not what it could have been like atall xD
Like damn this rifle is a joke and yet I see peoples mouthes watering when they see it despite all the fuckups…
TheAsianTroll@reddit
This gun is 100% in response to America adopting the new 6.8x51. "See? We aren't behind the west with weaponry!"
SeniorBootLance@reddit
“Hello guyz, my name is Anastasia with Zen-eet-cuh and here we have our newest handguard”…
axelguntherc@reddit
Oh, those Russians. . .
Ok_Movie_639@reddit
It's interesting they have redesigned the AK-12 into a "2023 edition" but the upgrades (most notably the ambi fire mode selector) are missing here.
Q-Ball7@reddit
Considering their current fire selector designs fall right the fuck off when you (panic-)slap them, maybe that's for the best.
Ok_Movie_639@reddit
The new one can't fall off. Or at least it seems highly unprobable. It's a vertical lever which actuates the traditional paddle.
Although to be fair, I wouldn't be opposed if the guns continued to cause problems to Russians in the field. The sooner the war in Ukraine ends, the better.
dicecop@reddit
Don't worry, it will end very soon
suckit2023@reddit
If you want this war to end, you should focus on the profiteers blocking peace deals left and right.
BananaAnarchy_@reddit
Looks like they included 2 round burst on this too
MedicBuddy@reddit
Have the Russians come out with any propagandized claims for this gun and cartridge yet? This gun needs a selling point to be successful for those who are already fine with 5.45 and 7.62 x 39. A better optics system for those older guns would be a more cost effective force multiplier than converting cartridges.
Sonoda_Kotori@reddit
The selling point is this is faster and penetrates more than 5.45 while doesn't produce significantly more recoil.
In other words, they just invented their own 6ARC.
haarp1@reddit
is it perhaps similar to 6.5 creedmoor, maybe somewhat worse though?
DumplingsAreBussin@reddit
Article on Russian side of the internet simply says that "there is not much room to modernise 5.45/5.56" and the whole seeling point is better pen
Q-Ball7@reddit
Better penetration of what? It's still not going through the newest generation of plastic plates that are stopping .50 BMG AP point blank, or the lesser ones that are only stopping it at 200 meters, so... why bother with this?
It should be pretty obvious that even the US' ~~.270 WSSM~~ 6.8x51 isn't getting through that no matter what secret penetrator technology they have so what hope does 6x42 have? Maybe if they're having trouble getting 5.45 through new NATO helmets, but for some reason I don't think they've improved nearly as much as the cutting edge of armor has and that round should still be capable of getting through those.
DAsInDerringer@reddit
Ladies and gentlemen, here we have another SOON to be forgotten weapon
paucus62@reddit
i still cannot find a single source corroborating this, even in the site in the picture
Lotate@reddit
i wonder when russia will come up with an original idea for their weapons systems
fadugleman@reddit
All the rifle calibers in that part of the world now that the war is going on has to keep quartermasters up at night
Ok_Movie_639@reddit
It's much worse for the Ukrainian quartermasters, though. The Ukrainians are actively using assault rifles in 5.45x39, 7.62x39 (AK and Vz.58 mags) and 5.56x45 (STANAG, G36 and possibly Beryl mags).
The Russians haven't yet started with widespread AKM issuing, so they don't have to worry about 7.62x39 that much (yet). AK-22 and its new caliber aren't in service yet either. AK-74, AK-74M and AK-12 all share the same ammo and mags.
fadugleman@reddit
Earlier in the war I saw a number of pictures of Ukrainians with G3s and FALs as well
Ok_Movie_639@reddit
I know, but I'm focusing on assault rifles now.
Of course they have G3s and FALs. Don't forget M14s as well.
fadugleman@reddit
Just a wild assortment of rifles. Savage 110 bolt guns even
5t3v0esque@reddit
Some snipers are even using Ruger Precisions that are self fundraised.
Fakes_p_acc@reddit
Don’t forget the random assortment of 1940s surplus both sides have used in both the back and frontline, 9x19, 8mm Mauser, 7,62r, 7,62 Tokarev just to name the main bunch. And they all have different mags(ppsh41, pps42/43, mp38/40,etc.) the belts aren’t as bad, just DSHK, M2 and M1919 Browning and Maxim (maybe some Mg34/42 as well)
TheAsianTroll@reddit
7.62x54R wouldn't be that much of an issue. The PKM and SVD use that ammo
NarcissisticCat@reddit
More Russian vaporware.
nosignallock@reddit
If it included a bottle opener, half of the West would praise the model. On the other hand, if some parts were made of aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber and ABS they would not be bad. Even though the price would skyrocket. It could also include a magazine and stock with the Adidas logo for fashion fans (Sarcasm).
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