Has anyone ever left the USA and never returned, if so how are you doing now?
Posted by deadlighta@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 24 comments
edit: Asking cause I am considering it in the future
Gringoinacatitla@reddit
I left in 2017. I live in Mexico City and I never want to move back. I might go visit my friends and family, but my family is all MAGA, so maybe not.
DonkeyPure6420@reddit
Costa Rica jobs
Brief_Set_3826@reddit
I left the usa 7.5 years ago and never returned. And I never will.
krkrbnsn@reddit
Do you mean never returned even for vacation or just haven't moved back? I moved to the UK 5 years ago and have only been back once. It took awhile for it to feel like home here but now it does. I went to grad school, got married and now work in my desired sector. I made more in the US but now I have universal healthcare, good work/life balance, 30 days PTO, and cheap flights to all over Europe. No plans to return to the US.
Several-Succotash-48@reddit
I'm looking to receive my american degree in Healthcare administration, what would be the easiest way for me to move out of the US and get a job so I never have to return here again?
itsmefrom413@reddit
Moved to the UK in 2004, last visit to the US was 2010. No real plans to visit anytime soon. Will stay in the UK for the rest of my life, love it here
thehoustondevil@reddit
I'm 29 and I'm going to make a travel myself to get away. It's getting bad here and I'm glad I can get dual citizenship
ArmyOfMe99@reddit
I’m with you. Moved to the UK in 2006 and will never move back to the US. We do visit though (and every time I can’t wait to get back to England).
hellcatspeedracing_@reddit
Said no one ever
Relevant-Egg7272@reddit
Yeah low-key I really didn't like England.
Mindblade0@reddit
The opposite for me. I moved from Germany to the US 11 years ago. Each time I go back to visit, I’m asking myself if I would want to move back. So far the answer has always been no.
Relevant-Egg7272@reddit
Just out of curiosity, what is it about Germany that you don't want to move back?
Mindblade0@reddit
There are a couple of things. Here are some of the most important ones (for me), in no particular order: 1. Everything feels kinda small in Germany (purely out of comparison to the US). Narrower streets, smaller cars, smaller seats, smaller portions. And while that can all have a certain appeal as a tourist, I don’t want that (at the moment) to be my life again. 2. People are generally in bad moods all the time. There is constant complaining about everything. And if they don’t have anything in their personal lives to complain about, they complain about the weather. (It’s too cold, it’s too hot, too much rain, not enough rain, etc.) Complaining is deeply rooted in German culture. It’s just something you do as a German. And while I admit to venting every now and then here in the US, I can’t take the sheer amount of complaints and negativity it comes with there. It doesn’t mean Americans never complain. But I think they do so much less in everyday life. Quite the opposite. There are people who work three jobs just to make ends meet, and they still seem optimistic and friendly. I love that about the US. 3. The weather is indeed not great in Germany (or at least in North-Rhine Westfalia, where I grew up). It feels like it’s overcast 80% of the time. I live in Florida now and even if you don’t go outside, the amount of sunlight makes life much more enjoyable for me. 4. Germans love their rules. Usually way too much. “Kleinkrämerei” and “Korintenkacker” are two German words that describe what I mean. It’s the same reason very few people will cross a street when the traffic light is red (“Don’t walk”). Even if there are zero cars in sight. I find that ridiculous and unnecessary. You gotta be willing to bend the rules when it makes sense.
Don’t get me wrong, Germany has many amazing advantages over the US. But the above points are, at least right now, a showstopper for me when I think about moving back.
sionnachmb@reddit
Yes. I left the US 5 years ago and will never return. The events that have transpired and the radical rightward swing of the nation as a whole just reinforce the logic of my decision. Many nations are corrupt and provide no real opportunity for social mobility. The difference is that the US lies about it. They believe their own propaganda.
Relevant-Egg7272@reddit
I think you've got an oversimplified view of US politics if you think we're the only ones that believe lies.
BodyFit7381@reddit
Yes I moved to Louisiana. I’m not sure exactly when I did this. Time stands still here. I do go back to USA when I want to eat fast foods. I usually travel to Texas for that. I will admit it’s scary crossing the Sabine River going back to the U.S. but I just pull my panties up and slip into my shit kickers take a deep breath an getter done.
Relevant-Egg7272@reddit
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painter_business@reddit
I left 11 years ago. I go back to visit family but I definitely would not move back unless something huge changed in my life. US is too unstable. I like where I live (Switzerland) but it’s not paradise and socially it’s weird, but I prefer life in Europe overall.
Fanatical_Prospector@reddit
What do you mean socially it is weird?
painter_business@reddit
It’s not an outgoing culture so its a challenge to make new friends
Relevant-Egg7272@reddit
Fair enough
salvadorsdollies@reddit
Best decision I ever made. I feel more “free” outside of the US in the sense that I don’t feel like I am constantly being pushed (programmed?) into a “system”. Work / life balance is how it should be. I don’t feel like another cog in the machine with the illusion that I am special because I live in the “greatest nation on earth”. There is no such thing. Every nation has its strengths and weaknesses, and the one I’m currently in is at least honest about its defects, for the most part. Educated people in general understand that the news isn’t to be trusted and critical thinking is way more apparent. People tend to think for themselves instead of engage in groupthink or cancel culture (a completely American phenomenon that outsiders can’t wrap their heads around. A friend recently told me, “who has time to think of what others who have no business with my life are doing wrong? Where do you find the time? I have 3 children to take care of and even after them I have about 600 other priorities before policing somebody’s moral compass.”)
I also shop less and feel less pressured to look a certain way. I have embraced who I am as a whole being and what makes me truly happy without the distractions of Hollywood / media and marketing/ brainwashing tools to keep me complacent. I have found my overall depression and anxiety to decrease tremendously and I am much more honest, conscientious, mature, and aware of my place on the global scale instead of my ego-centric constant climb to the “top” of some man-made concept of what it means to be “successful”. Now I just approach everything with the question “will this make me (or my family) happy?” Instead of going against my gut to be performative for a boss / spouse / friend, as many relationships felt in the US. I feel more real. Grounded.
Don’t even get me started on my relationship with social media and how I finally feel like a freed bird that’s been caged for 15 years behind a screen. It feels nice to be in a self driven society instead of a depressed collective shell of a once aspirational “American dream”. South America has its issues too of course but at least the people are not masquerading like the politicians have our best interests at heart. People have a much more clear definition of politics and what a politicians role in society should be. The rest is supplemented with a self driven attitude of helping thy neighbor instead of senseless competition and gross individualism to the point of isolation. I’ve lived in 5 countries throughout my 40 some years on this wild planet I’ve never met more miserable and lonely people in than I have in the states. A sense of community doesn’t seem to be a priority and as a result, we get SJWs and “Karen”s.
The sense of impeding doom I had while I lived there has virtually vanished. (The universal health care is also a nice touch.)
Important to also note that the “singularity” hasn’t quite reached us as it still feels like the 1990s here before everyone got hooked up to their phone.
Service workers can be themselves without pretending to love their jobs while donning a fake smile like literally every customer service employee in the US. And they don’t rely on tips to get by. Everything feels like it’s still got some integrity to it.
Also, getting away from toxic masculinity, processed food disguised as healthy, gym rats, entitled hipsters, power hungry coworkers, angry/spoiled brads & chads, aggressively rich wasps and their quest to keep the wage gap as wide as possible, and a celebrity obsessed culture that reports on every time a kardashian takes a shit was the most sacred gift from the universe.
Accomplished_Cash_30@reddit
I myself felt exactly like you. Except for the toxic masculinity as I'm a male and do not really mind it.. All other points seem to be spot on. I'm currently living in a small town in Northern Mexico. It does feel like the late 90's vibe or early 2000's. There's the modern conveniences of course MTY is 45minutes away.
As for living in the USA, the whole getting pigeon-holed into a system where being in debt or you're not considered normal, I lived it. Not a fan of it. I was unable to buy a house for that very reason.
I just don't understand how some Americans think there is isn't another way of living. They simple thought doesn't cross their minds, not for a second.
What do you do for work? How do you make money in another country?
salvadorsdollies@reddit
Spot on. The debt crisis is the reason I left. I didn’t want to be indebted to the banks for the rest of my life just to keep up with the jonses. I’m a digital marketing writer but since being in a country that values craftwork and working with your hands I’ve taken to various other side jobs that have brought out my creative side and have been able to provide me with enough of a consistent income (I now sell pottery to various shops) that I could finally cut marketing and the demons associated with it out of my life. Glad you’ve found the light! It truly does boggle my mind how Americans have happily had the wool pulled over their eyes and don’t even think to ask what’s on the other side.