I mean depending on how feature rich and how important security is to you a lot of the social network sites have open source clones that would work but probably abandoned long ago.
I know you're joking but on the last one class names are intentionally obfuscated, they write them with normal names and then when it gets sent out to prod the name get intentionally mangled to make it harder to parse just by looking at it.
Probably neither, actually. It's probably a build system generating randomized class names so that they can be tied to some other bit of data in JS. You can see they do things like this:
<div class="RNNXgb" jsname="RNNXgb">
... which is probably making either this specific div or a set of similar divs easily accessible in some way in JS. They're also saving bytes, but it's likely a side effect.
The class that indicates an image search image used to be something like adYjdzq or something like that img-res is the same length and way mor informative
Sure, but they probably have tons of classes, and they have all sorts of crazy different versions for webpages, A/B testing all the time, etc. It could be they just generate an unique string for each of them so it's easier to debug afterwards.
Question: why is this? I know when I use styled components and some styling libraries (like bootstrap and mui, I can't remember the proper name for them right now, I'm still very much a beginner) they do this as well, but I've never known why...
1. Reduces accidental collisions
2. Obfuscate the information away from scrapers by making it more difficult to parse initially, then changing it periodically.
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Don't forget under resourced. Paying a talented dev half a million a year isn't going to fix you offshoring important backend functionality to people who have no idea how the previous on shore team built it.
My app makes money by selling user data.
It’s a single text input field that writes txt files to an s3 bucket. You just put whatever you want in there, like your name, DOB, social security number, dank copypastas, you name it
I wanna do it just because. Someone ask me to build them just a website and I have the client freeze and scrape websites when searching
Do not ask me to make software, I know how not to do it and I will do it
As someone who does a large amount of automated scraping, the answer is kind of. The most common deterrent that happens when you do stuff like this is presenting captchas to break automated browsing.
It's fine to test on a single IP but if you want any kind of sustained large volume scraping you need multiple ips with staggered page loads to defeat automation detectors.
yup, I have a fair amount of experience with webscraping too, but I am wondering if some random javascript running in your browser could get your ip banned as a form of sabotage
Steps:
1. Buy a javascript enabled add
2. Load the add with scraping javascript code
3. Victim visits the webpage with the add and javascript loads
4. Victim's ip gets banned and throttled with captchas
Depending on what xou do, probably. If you probe every domain, you're bound to hit a hoster like cloudflare who'd probably be annoyed, if you even get past the verification
Ah. Yes, same way, but someone else mentioned CORS and now I'm not so sire anymore. When in doubt just write an exe and send it the user as "Bill_56A379_2023-03-23_PayPal.pdf" and get them IP banned that way, much easier
Fuck CORS
I suppose, I'm a back end dev because of shit like that. My Queue doesn't want to scroll to the active element, my Cache doesn't get blocked by CORS
My app makes money by selling user data.
It’s a single text input field that writes txt files to an s3 bucket. You just put whatever you want in there, like your name, DOB, social security number, dank copypastas, you name it
Lossers?
losers*
Web scrapping? You mean it destroys a web?
scraping*
For the love of fuck, if your code is as poor as your English, I want nothing to do with your app.
For some people Reddit is like their job. Their unpaid job that they take super seriously for no pay. Needs to be perfect at all times. Nothing that would upset a client like an errant apostrophe. They just don't understand people who use reddit for a quick way to destress or kill time. They,LL be ok though...
I shit you not the other day we had this conversation.
Manager: Can we add a search bar to the map?
Us: Sure, what do you want to search?
Manager: Everything
Just use Chat GPT to create Blockchains!
I've asked for it and it gave me a free Hash!
>0x8f6d2341b25fa43692e26c105c0e8f485eaf9d44c3b36673a6c8d2cd0891a2a2
I've had an employer tell me a combo box needs to work "like Google". It was enough to split the string by whitespace and search for each part separately.
The guy made a million dollars on his website idea to raise money for business school. What would he need business school for at that point? I just seeing it as using his time wisely to leave after one term.
> Supported by the funding from Y Combinator,[28] Huffman coded the site in Common Lisp[29] and together with Ohanian launched Reddit in June 2005.
> Alex Tew, a student from Cricklade in Wiltshire, England, conceived The Million Dollar Homepage in August 2005 when he was 21 years old.
Close but no cigar
The website launched in August. Surely the idea is older though. Taking more than 2 months to go from idea to execution seems likely, so the idea is still likely older than Reddit.
I guess it depends on how you defined it "was a thing". If we're just talking about idea, then sure, but if we're talking about it being an actual website anyone can use, I stand with my point.
> He was about to begin a three-year Business Management course at the University of Nottingham /.../ As a money-raising idea /.../ The website went live on 26 August 2005
Seems to me to be within the same month. Doubt it took more than 2 months.
It says "conceived" in August. And no, it really didn't take more than 2 months back then to go from an idea as simple as million dollar homepage to execution.
I wonder if anyone kept track of which domains expired and then got bought up by other companies. Could be an interesting case study of internet bit rot.
> The Million Dollar Homepage is a website conceived in 2005 by Alex Tew] a student from Wiltshire, England, to raise money for his university education.
> Tew dropped out of the business degree the site was set up to fund after one term
I was trying to help my friend make a bit for discord. I’m not super knowledgeable but I can make basic shit work with google sometimes. Anyways I asked what language he was using and he told me “English”
Actually a good idea, you take a pic of your stallions and people can rent them to make mini animals with their desired specs.
I want 15% of your company.
Now I'm sad remembering AWS already hasn't been keeping lambda runtimes up to date so I can't even pick my own language for backened and they just cut even more developers
Plenty of contracts where the client gets the source code for maintenance after the project is complete.
These types of projects, the client almost certainly demand a certain language.
Honestly, if they are also providing initial funding, in charge of marketing, legal, and other administration; then I might be tempted. Assuming they already have a solid business plan with supporting market research.
Yeah but in most cases it's
"I want you to make app"
"What app"
"Tinder for horses"
"Any specifics?"
"You're the programmer you should know"
end of conversation.
I got a very angry email a while back because a sample layout I did for a client had lorem ipsum placeholder text in several elements.
The guy freaked out because we were developing the site in "spanish"...
I mean. There are a bunch of people with legitimate needs for an app who wouldn't be able to answer "how big is it" or "what do you want me to code in?"
If your MO as a developer is to ask (barely) technically questions and expect straightforward answers, then that's cool. But you'll be missing out on clients.
When I did landscaping I would ask "what sort of hedge do you want?" And people would legit answer "oh - like... Trees?" - it was a good indicator of the follow up questions i needed to ask - but I wouldn't fault them for not knowing about plants. That's my speciality.
Yes of course. I feel though stories like these are usually told to make fun of the kind of people who learn a buzzword and go around thinking theyve got everything figured out (cue any of Musk's tweets)
Reminds me of my aunt asking me to port some proprietary Windows-only app to her new MacOS....she literally looked shocked when I told her that's not something I'll do on my weekend and she should contact the company that supplies her with the software asking for a Mac version. Turns out she did that previously and got told that they do not support MacOS....that's why she asked me to "install" it for her anyways.
"Sure. Sketch out every screen and what actions to take on it."
You will never hear from them again. Probably. When you get a 500-page design document written by an incoherent non-programmer, you'll have another problem.
Dos really programmers ask for the size at the go like this? Is not a better question what
it supposes to do? Or on what platform. Either way as a professional in any field treat every potential client as they are like lobotomizes gerbils in your mind, assume they don’t know the most basic ting so long you don’t know the person; it is often the reason why they go to you instead solve the request them self. Create far less confusion and save some headache down the line.
We did this for a computer vision class in university.
My buddy who was actually a programmer did 99% of the work and got it to have like a 70% success rate.
My basically programming illiterate brain helped a bit with the PowerPoint.
These days that's extremely easy.
There's also a Reddit ad that does the classic xkcd which recognizes if it's a bird or not.
The whole prototype takes literally a couple of minutes.
I can make it, the average app takes 2 years to build my salary is 250k a year, but I'll give you a deal and take 60% of the app and only 1 year of salary. No one ever comes back asking for another app to be made :(
Exactly the first thought.
Or, send me the documentation you’ve written describing it. If it’s not worth their effort and a possible rejection, then it’s not worth mine.
Why cant I get rich with my idea/skills/capital?
I represent a small fraction of what is necessary to create a new business venture. Whether that be the idea, the
necessary skill-set to realise the product/service, or access to the required investment to begin making it a reality.
Thinktank solves this problem by bringing all of these people together in the first of its kind social media app targeted
for new ventures.
Thinktank is a networking platform that brings people together. It does not handle money or accept associated
responsibilities. Thinktank could be an app that benefits the creator of intellectual property by being an encrypted
source of evidence when it comes to the conception of intellectual property and the dates and chat logs regarding it.
Thinktank creates value out of nothing but ideas. It is not like Uber or a food delivery service where both the driver
must be rented by the app and the client found by the app. Instead Thinktank takes people who have something with no
current real value (the driver who we dont have to pay) and connects them with someone who together they can realise
true value.
To my awareness there have currently been two major fundraising websites/apps created which have both excelled.
One
is called gofundme which is a platform people can request donations from anyone on the internet for a variety of
reasons however this is 99% used as a charitable foundation for individuals who have suffered heavily in the public eye.
The other platform is kickstarter which is a website people can invest into game developers to finance a game that is in
the earliest stages of development.
It is my opinion that both of these enterprises have only seen a small fraction of an angle of this market and an app that
sells the reality of connection to financial liberty would be extremely popular for a variety of people.
People with no network can gain access to one and investors get to exploit fresh brains for money. Everybody on the
platform wins and that's what brings its users.
"Hello electrician. My friend needs electricity. Can you wire it?"
"Hello lawyer. My friend needs legal counsel. Can you win his case?"
"Hello accountant. My friend needs a tax break. Can you hide his assets?"
"Hello carpenter. My friend needs a project. Can you build it?"
You see how stupid this looks with any other profession?
"Sure. My day rate is $1000 and the app will take a bare minimum of one month and increase from there depending on complexity and maintenance requirements."
I mean... That's realistic consultant costs, and you can't do much in less than a month. People don't realize how expensive software can be in the industry.
A rich acquaintance took me out to lunch to advise him on an app idea he had. Basically he wanted to take on the #2 website in the world, though he didn't put it in those terms.
I walked him through the size and composition of the sort of organization required to prototype it, a super rough time investment, and then the salary norms for the roles.
His reaction to the large sum: "What about just getting some college students?"
That wasn't the first time I realized how simultaneously dumb and exploitive rich poorly can be, but it's maybe the most memorable.
I'll tell you what: I charge you one single grain of rice for the first pixel, two grains for the second, four for the third, eight for the fourth, and so on and so on.
All 8 bit images are 8k resolution. Any images less than 4k are not compatible with the site as is
But yes I charge per pixel. Because yes a website is similar to a tile foor
I have encountered a few of these instances, my question is what exactly should the equity division look like? Say for a moderately complex webapp that talks to a db, have dedicated apis for public use, consists of 10-15 pages or more etc?
If their idea had merit, they could've easily gotten a VC throwing money at them to build it.
Considering kind of shit tier companies VCs have funded so far, the idea has to be true garbage to not even get couple of hundred k thrown at it.
Easily? Seems to me that nearly all the software companies that succeeded in the past two decades were started by people who can program, which this texter clearly can't.
Only exception that comes to mind is League of Legends, but I believe that even they could program a bit.
That's already a better answer than you'd get with "How big is it".
Obviously, the followup is "What should the app *do*", which is what should have been the question in the first place.
Of course, my answer to the initial question (as many others) would have been "no". End of conversation. lol
15MB.
I mean, who is the joke here? Wtf kind of question is "how big is it?" for an app?
How "big" it is depends on how shitty code you write. How complex it is depends on the requested features and specs.
Reminds me of a joke.
Kid walks into a lumber store and asks for a 2x4. The worker asks “how long do you need it?” Kid responds “we need it for a long time, we’re building a garage.”
I kid you not, 15 years ago during my first job I had a client complain that we ripped him off because his friend also had a website made by us and the compared the invoices and found out that they both paid the same amount, but the website o f his friend was 2cm wider than his, and clearly he should pay less than his friend because he got less website
I actually had someone want me to code a game they liked from the early 00s for them as a mobile app.
They said they would pay me $3 per level I coded or them and they said they “knew they were overpaying me”
Like WTF.
Get all the information and send back an app that opens to a white screen that says “scaled to fit normal mobile phone screen” and does nothing else.
This is my ignorant ass not knowing how much effort that would take.
And yet, even that comment is unique: https://imgur.com/a/lfDjscY
Google hasn't indexed this thread yet, but it'll probably pop up in an hour or two as the sole result if you put that all in quotes. :)
I don’t understand how so many smart, analytical people think this could be real. If it was, asking “how big is it?” as the first question would be even more ridiculous than the answer
Guy at Home depot: I need some 4 by 2s
Home Depot employee: Sure thing. How long?
Guy: Let me check with my boss... He says a long time - we're building a house.
"Sure. My day rate is $1000 and the app will take a bare minimum of one month and increase from there depending on complexity and maintenance requirements."
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