Are there any Lemmy or Kbin instances which aren't super partisan?
Posted by Cuddlyaxe@reddit | RedditAlternatives | View on Reddit | 24 comments
A lot of the lemmy instances I've found seem to be pretty left wing, some are outright tankies and others are just more similar to reddit's political views.
Are there any instances I can avoid that without going all the way to the other side? I'd love a middle of the road place where people can discuss topics without being harrangued for having the wrong opinion
FemboyGayming@reddit
Lemmy is a left-wing platform developed by socialists, that being said; most servers will allow you to espouse most liberal views just fine even without any/much rivalry (which is what I'm guessing at, given your moderation of r/afghanistan). many servers are predominantly liberal, such as lemmy.world.
balderdash9@reddit
I don't really think that's answering OPs question. You can't really post right-wing stuff on Lemmy (even if it's tame/not bigoted).
chesterriley@reddit
You can definitely post right wing stuff on Lemmy without getting banned. And getting downvoted doesn't mean anything on Lemmy.
SheriffBartholomew@reddit
Depends on the instance and community. Plenty will ban you from a single comment that doesn't align with their ideology. Downvotes do mean something, it means that it gets buried and nobody will ever see it.
chesterriley@reddit
That doesn't mean it "gets buried". Most people read all the comments on Lemmy. In fact sometimes unpopular comments get lots of attention.
culfForJS@reddit
Once again we have the "equating Lemmy with Lemmy instances".
You can post whatever opinion you want on most instances but also expect that people will also share theirs.
chesterriley@reddit
And conservative views.
rtconner@reddit
Here have a tildes invite. its a pretty mild place https://tildes.net/register?code=WDMRU-ALG8P-JULDL
Stiltzkinn@reddit
Tildes is leftist as Reddit.
rtconner@reddit
Intelligent people are always biased to the left
balderdash9@reddit
Classic reddit: downvote someone for noticing that a platform is a left-wing echo chamber. It's not even like you wanted something right-wing and they still downvoted you lol
Efficient_Star_1336@reddit
It really is amazing how quickly this sub went from mostly apolitical, with some users having vague libertarian sentiments, to an r politics outpost with zero sense of nuance.
The app thing is over, the boycotters lost pretty objectively, so you'd think they'd have moved on to the next current thing. That said, the sub itself is a lot smaller than it used to be - maybe they're the only ones who haven't managed to leave yet.
faustianredditor@reddit
Yeah, I imagine that's exactly what's up. I'm just lurking for the most part, eating popcorn. But a look at the state of all the popular reddit alternatives out there suggests:
Leftie alternatives are alive and well. There's always some friction, and mostly, leftie communities ban people who make the community unpleasant to the rest. Can't go trolling there, or dog-whistling.
Centrist alternatives can't really exist. If you're inviting both sides, you bring people together who really can't get along. Either you moderate the shit out of such a community, or you go free-speech absolutist and let insults fly. The former is too much work - even the big companies like twitter, facebook, reddit can't figure this out to a degree that is satisfactory to the majority. The free-speech alternative will quickly alienate the lefties, because usually this free speech entails hate speech and bigotry.
Go right wing? Well, sure, you can. But these communities tend to go more radical as time goes on, it seems. Voat started out vaguely right but free-speech, but the moderates fled once the literal nazis moved in, eventually they were so nazi-infested that no one would host the website; many other communities met a broadly similar fate.
As a result, I think the majority of people left on this subreddit are people who look for free-speech / right-of-center communities; mostly because they're unsatisfied with moderation practices on reddit. People who'd rather that platforms don't ban at all. Because there's quite the lack of alternatives in that space.
Efficient_Star_1336@reddit
That's not at all correct.
Rightie alternatives were 100 percent of alternatives up until recently, and Scored is the only vaguely healthy alternative around. It's basically just TD, its anchor, but that's largely because that's the only coherent mode for an alternative to exist at all - as a home for a large subreddit that got b&.
Centrist alternatives don't really exist, but not because there's too much excitement. There were a few apolitical alternatives, and they died because nobody was interested at all - if you have no extreme opinions, then it's objectively better to stay on reddit, which has a larger community. The network effect is strong.
Leftie alternatives have generally become more toxic, faster than any other kind. Rightie ones are unpleasant for lefties, but generally they get along with each other. Centrist alternatives are boring, but at least polite. Leftie alternatives tend to be hives of social dysfunction - Chapo Chat is the gold standard here - they changed their name to "hexbear" because the communist podcast they built it for was insufficiently communist, they had a civil war over whether veganism was racist, and every other day there's another witchhunt for "infiltrators". More recently, Lemmy has had CP scandals, constant backbiting, and overall dysfunction.
yallonsomeothershit@reddit
There's a fork of reddit that has both right and lefties but it isn't for everyone (if it was, there would be something similar already mainstream) but for some reason posting a link gets auto-removed. I'll try another way.. r_drama_net
Remote_Mousse5692@reddit
I've visited that site once or twice. It pretty much t_d or voat, except with a veneer of "we let left wingers post too!" No wonder reddit doesn't allow links too it...
yallonsomeothershit@reddit
why would a T_D clone run a 24/7 top banner on every page of the website linking to donation page for transgender support
like I said not for everyone lol.. anyone visiting will say it's a veneer for x
Remote_Mousse5692@reddit
A banner that disappears as soon as you log in (yes, I even made an account). The banner is the thinest possible attempt to make outsiders think they don't hate trans people. The moment you join, its all "tries this, tries that". It might not be exactly the same flavour of right wing as t_d, but boy is it extreme.
yallonsomeothershit@reddit
it most definitely does not (except this month), it's just the Halloween theme / event we're running. Normally it's there and very visible (and gets lots of donations from site members). I actually mod one of the biggest communities in there now and the only "mod action" I've had to take was mark some posts NSFW. We have literally a transgender programmer spazzing out making improvements to the website because she's like totally in love with the website owner, it's a whole thing. (don't tell her but he's totally way more into me)
Remote_Mousse5692@reddit
Just as I suspected, you're one of the goons from there 🤣 Maybe go tell your friends to think up something funnier than being mad that trans people exist
yallonsomeothershit@reddit
:\ i tried
Efficient_Star_1336@reddit
It gets autoremoved because its autist userbase spends every waking moment spamming the link on this nearly dead sub.
TheConquistaa@reddit
Usually the feddit.[your country's domain name] seem to be just fine. If your country has one, then it's likely it has ~the same rules as your subreddit. kbin.social also seemed not so leftist from my perspective.
sh.itjust.works and sopuli.xyz also seem some good Lemmy instances with more moderation in regards to politics (!memes@sopuli.xyz at least feels better than !memes@lemmy.ml)
RobotToaster44@reddit
Go here https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances and look for an instance with a low block count
I went for Mander.xyz, it only blocks pedo instances.