Larry has the money. TBL didn’t confess to anything, he’s just an asshole.
Posted by DavidM47@reddit | lebowski | View on Reddit | 93 comments
The ending always confused me, because I never understood why they never went back and got the money from Larry. I just watched it all the way through recently and realized that they suggest that TBL stole the money. I asked my brother, who wrote a paper in college about the movie, and he was surprised I concluded otherwise.
In my interpretation, TBL did not steal the money, he’s just an asshole who felt no need to explain himself to a couple of bums who stole money from him. Larry had the money. The fact that the brand new Corvette outside wasn’t his was ironic, but it doesn’t mean he didn’t steal the money.
Look at the photo above. That is the picture definition of the word “stonewalling.” That is the death stare of a teenager with a million dollars under his bed who intends to keep it. The Dude came away with the impression he had the money, as he tells Jackie Treehorn that’s who has it. Jackie just doesn’t take him seriously.
When the Dude is presenting Walter with his theory of the case, his main point is that TBL didn’t go after him over the missing money, and he reasons it’s because TBL knows he never gave him the money. But that’s just his theory.
TBL has just embezzled money from a charitable foundation. If he goes to the police, he implicates himself in a very serious crime. And he’s not sure the Dude stole it. He seemed taken in the limo with the Dude’s suggestion that they’re trying to further extort him. At one point, there’s a cutaway to a scene of TBL scheming over the money and briefcase, but that’s just the Dude’s imagination.
Then when confronting TBL with their theory of the case, TBL responds oddly, but he doesn’t make any incriminating statements. He first says “You have your story I have mine. I say I entrusted the money to you and you stole it.” That does sound kind of like how a scheming bad guy would talk, but TBL is a scheming bad guy, which is why he’s so often honored fo all of his civic… uhh.. so he has probably thought it through already.
When he accuses TBL of trying to pin the crime on a “deadbeat,” TBL quips, “well, aren’t ya?” Again, this isn’t an inculpating statement, it just sounds that way, because TBL is human paraquat. It’s a non-denial in the face of a damning charge. But TBL doesn’t feel a need to respond, because he knows he didn’t steal the money, and he’s pretty sure they did.
2wheelsThx@reddit
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
Velocitor1729@reddit
But isn't that just in the Dude's imagination?
UsingACarrotAsAStick@reddit
You don’t know shit, Lebowski.
kylew1985@reddit
Not the Creedence though.
Brian17340@reddit
LITTLE PRICK'S STONEWALLING ME!
hotasanicecube@reddit
“You have your story, I have mine”, definitely shows that TBL is going to make it a reputation thing when he “found some poor schmuck to pin it on”. TBL never denies that he did just that, He just responds with “Well, aren’t you?”.
Plus we see Brant putting telephone books in the briefcase confirming The Dude never had the money and there for Larry could not have had the money either.
DavidM47@reddit (OP)
We see the Dude’s imagination. That’s all.
hotasanicecube@reddit
I think it’s more than imagination, it’s him recounting the story based on now having all the evidence in place. He’s the protagonist, the movie is about him, why would they set up a scenario where he is wrong on an element so vital to the main theme?
And it fits the movie. There was no kidnapping, there was no money, dude didn’t get his rug back, Larry didn’t steal it. The nihilists got nothing, Walter plan didn’t work. Defino didn’t get Fawn back. It’s a movie about a whole lot of nothings that came together. Fuck it, let’s go bowling…. Like nothing happened, because nothing DID happen in the end.
DavidM47@reddit (OP)
There was money taken from the foundation. Maude Lebowski says it is missing.
TBL either fell in love for that wrong vixen, or he got the ransom note and immediately came up with a ploy for taking advantage of it.
I say TBL was sincere and paid the money because Bunny had only run away a year early. So it was a relatively new romance.
hotasanicecube@reddit
“You were glad she was kidnapped” “you wanted to make the money disappear” . Faced with that accusation yet he said nothing in his defense but you have your story I have mine.
Guilty
mandiblesofdoom@reddit
but there is a little Lebowski on the way ... that's how this whole darn think keeps perpetuating itself ... westward the wagons ...
hotasanicecube@reddit
Which is about the last thing we hear in the whole movie. And basically the “happy ending” to the story.
McGnack@reddit
Element? You're out of your element Donny!
mtnScout@reddit
You human paraquat!
SoulGoalie@reddit
It is worth noting that there are only two scenes in the movie that don't directly involve the Dude. One is the Nihilists having pancakes and the other is the cutaway when the Dude is explaining what he thinks the Big Lebowski did.
So you can't really make the case that the Dude is an unreliable narrator or that the movie is lying to us, especially when we are basically lead straight to the point that The Big Lebowski is framing the Dude when he says "well, aren't ya?" after the Dude says he's a perfect sap to pin the missing money on.
2wheelsThx@reddit
When the nihilists are ordering pancakes, you can see Walter's van out the window, and The Dude is presumably inside.
DavidM47@reddit (OP)
There’s a white van way way way in the background but that doesn’t seem intentional
2wheelsThx@reddit
This is Coen territory, so everything is intentional.
BraveryDave@reddit
New shit has come to light!
Scouring-o-the-Shite@reddit
Well, Dude, we just don’t know.
mandiblesofdoom@reddit
Dude & Walter drive by in the background of the pancake scene.
The other bit w/o the Dude is when Jesus is going door-to-door to his neighbors.
FirstUnderscoreLast@reddit
Because that’s a flash from Walter’s story about the Jesus
mandiblesofdoom@reddit
Right - the comment I responded to listed two scenes w/o the dude -
-putting the phone books in the ringer
-Lingonberry pancakes (which the dude was technically in)
There is a third, the bit with Jesus. The phone books scene illustrates the Dude's analysis of the crime, just as Jesus going door-to-door illustrates Walter's story.
It's a minor point.
DavidM47@reddit (OP)
Dude is not the narrator. We have an omniscient narrator, who is sometimes voiced by Sam Elliot.
Dude isn’t narrating the diner scene, and that’s when we get some plot revelation.
Those other scenes with TBL and Brandt are the imaginings of a couple of bums who lost $1 million trying to justify their behavior.
Low_Resource4891@reddit
Maybe so
nmc9279@reddit
Human paraquat.
UsingACarrotAsAStick@reddit
Ever thus to deadbeats, Lebowski.
R_Similacrumb@reddit
There never was any money, they threw out a ringer for a ringer.
Just like there never was any kidnapping. Bunny just went to Vegas and never bothered to tell the Big Lebowski.
Nihilist knew and tried to exploit the situation, failing to appreciate that The Big Lebowski was hoping they would kill her.
Waste_Extent_8414@reddit
Yeah I think there IS an unspoken message here, and it’s: FUCK YOU, LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE
Troy64@reddit
Biggest giveaway that this theory is not correct is that TBL isn't in any way pleased that Bunny is back. All those crocodile tears earlier were clearly a charade. The ironic thing is that he's the one who owes money all over town and needs more than his allowance. He is what he accuses others of being. He's a goldbricking bum who hasn't worked an honest day in his life.
I like the theory, though. I feel like Larry was probably stonewalling because he stole a car and took it for a joyride rather than because he has a million bucks under his bed. Part of the irony with him is that he says nothing despite Walter trying to make him speak. Meanwhile, Walter is constantly telling Donny to shut the fuck up. Walter considers both Donny and Larry to be idiots, but for some reason he believes (falsely) that Larry has vital information while also assuming (at times also falsely) that Donny has no useful information. It demonstrates how people's preconceived ideas of others create biases which reinforce themselves. He thinks Larry knows something. Larry says nothing. Walter takes that as confirmation that he is hiding something deliberately. He thinks Donny knows nothing, so when Donny says anything, Walter dismisses it and berates him, often denying Donny answers to questions about what's going on which leaves Donny perpetually uninformed although not unintelligent as is assumed.
Am I wrong???
meatmechdriver@reddit
He says he doesn’t blame anyone for the loss of his legs, but some CHINAMAN took them from him in Korea so he actually does blame someone for the loss of his legs…
GeoHog713@reddit
Wow. You missed the whole point of the scam
There WAS no money. Walter swapped a ringer, with a ringer
Are you employed, sir?
DavidM47@reddit (OP)
I think this was only the 2nd time I watched it all the way through, but I think I reached the same conclusion the 1st time. I am employed…as a civil litigator where I bring and defend claims for fraud, conversion, defalcation, what have you and the like.
meatmechdriver@reddit
Like an Irish monk?
GeoHog713@reddit
So you're like a child.....who wanders in during the middle of a
Pomeranian-Bowling@reddit
Gimme the ringer! Chop chop!
_joeBone_@reddit
thereal-quaid@reddit
AND A GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
meatmechdriver@reddit
56 episodes, bulk of the series
dlakelan@reddit
Nope. TBL embezzled money, Maude doesn't want to make her fathers embezzlement a police matter... But TBL is hardly going to hand a million dollars to the dude... I mean his wife is not the issue here. How else is TBL going to get his wife to suck his cock at a thousand dollars a pop? He's gotta feed the monkey.
meatmechdriver@reddit
To use the parlance of our times
torontopeter@reddit
Ya but his son is a fucking dunce
emmmmceeee@reddit
What about the toe?
Unusual_Compote4909@reddit
I can get you a toe
buymytoy@reddit
I can get you a toe by three o’clock with nail polish
Hurricane-Confetti13@reddit
Forget about the fucking toe 💚
turin37@reddit
That’s not her toe.
Hurricane-Confetti13@reddit
And that’s the one thing Walter was right about. 😂
mandiblesofdoom@reddit
He was also right that Bunny would wander back after she gets tired of her little game ... which is exactly what happened.
Walter was either bang-on correct or completely wrong. Interesting guy.
Psych0n4u7@reddit
He’s not wrong…he’s just an asshole!
Hurricane-Confetti13@reddit
Yes, and it must suck to have a cleft asshole. 😂😂😂😂
Hurricane-Confetti13@reddit
Absolutely correct. It turns out the slut did kidnap herself to go on a whorecation! 😂😂😂😂😂
Green_with_Zealously@reddit
She kidnapped herself!
El_Heffe@reddit
New shit has come to light.
Psych0n4u7@reddit
They’re gonna killlll that pooooor woman!
system_deform@reddit
What the fuck're you talking about? That poor woman, that poor slut, kidnapped herself, Dude.
jesusmanman@reddit
I'm sorry I wasn't listening.
ignorance0@reddit
The kid is high, that’s why he has that look.
Unusual_Compote4909@reddit
Maybe found a roach or 3 in Dude’s car
brb9911@reddit
He believes in nothing, Lebowski. Nothing!
EnvironmentalPack451@reddit
Plot twist: Larry ended up with Walter's undies
Unusual_Compote4909@reddit
I like this twist
hawkrew@reddit
The human paraquat has the money.
TheIgnitor@reddit
Were you even listening to the Dude’s story?
teacherthelon@reddit
Just because we’re bereaved doesn’t make us saps!
Colonel-Splicer@reddit
There was no money....
ccullen0013@reddit
Bulk of the series
surfinbird@reddit
This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!
mtmccox@reddit
Who's got your undies, Walter?
CONANwolf@reddit
Are you serious?
DavidM47@reddit (OP)
Sadly, yes.
ghbrown60640@reddit
You're killing your father Larry!
FirstUnderscoreLast@reddit
Oh no, he has health problems.
AKchaos49@reddit
Ha! Laughable!
Rich-Yogurtcloset715@reddit
What in God’s holy name are you blathering about?
joshuajackson9@reddit
Larry, these men are the police.
Jbond970@reddit
I can get you a toe.
JAMBCA@reddit
This is a very complicated case. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, lotta what-have-yous.
nmc9279@reddit
Lotta strands in ol’Duders head.
JAMBCA@reddit
Also it was a ringer dude.
BowlVet-247@reddit
You didn’t think I’d come out here naked…
Soulless--Plague@reddit
Uzi?!
nmc9279@reddit
LADDY! SWEE-TEE! THE MAN IS HERE!
Scouring-o-the-Shite@reddit
Oh, but it is a game.
coffeeandhash@reddit
As if he would ever dream of taking their bullshit money
kylew1985@reddit
M. Night Coen presents
IndependentWrap2749@reddit
This is what happens when you fuck someone in the ass
Hurricane-Confetti13@reddit
And it’s so fun to look out front while you do so!😂😂😂
lewisherber@reddit
Don’t be fatuous.
PhasedPlasmaPainting@reddit
But Walter threw out a ringer for a ringer.
MikeRobertini@reddit
You’re killing your father!
Hurricane-Confetti13@reddit
…and no, he’s not about to crack.
amehlman@reddit
Sir, I just want to say that we're both, on a personal level, really enormous fans.