Recently bought a Security 380 and I think it may have a design flaw

Posted by BonnieMcMurray@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 10 comments

New Security 380, haven't taken it to the range yet. Not 100% sure if I should at this point. With no magazine, the slide moves normally, but with an empty mag inserted (either of the 10- or 15-round mags it ships with), the slide "sticks". If I keep pulling, it eventually moves back. With a non-empty mag, it "sticks" on ejecting the final round. As far as I can tell, the cause of the problem is that the follower can pivot and the front can ride up a little into to the chamber. I suspect the slide is getting stuck against it. (This might explain why some other owners report weird scratches on the follower.) For what it's worth, it looks like the mags are not "native" 380, but 9mm with a spacer added at the back. I don't know if that's relevant to the issue I describe, however. I have two questions: - Is this a known problem with this gun? (I couldn't find anyone else talking about it via google.) - Is it safe to shoot it? My assumption is that the worst that happen - i.e. if the slide won't cycle at all - is excessive recoil and a failure to eject. Or is this something that I should just report immediately to Ruger?

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VegasOldPerv@reddit

Didya clean and oil it? This sounds exactly like how my P80s act when I first assemble them and they're bone dry.

nastygirl11b@reddit

It’s probably fine. Go shoot it and I bet you won’t notice anything

ilikerelish@reddit

Uh.. that's normal. It is a convenience.. When you fire the gun empty the slide locks back, you insert another mag, hit the release and keep shooting. Most modern guns incorporate this feature, even the Glock, though those have now actual slide stop NIB, they are intended to be racked instead.

BonnieMcMurray@reddit (OP)

You might want to read the post again.

Shit.. I missed the ball this morning entirely. I should probably lay off the Reddit while battling a sinus infection. Been shooting since I was 8. That was back in the early 70s.

cheshirelaugh@reddit

Are you talking about Last Round Hold Open?

Kromulent@reddit

It does not sound to me like an unsafe condition, the worst that can happen (IMO) is that it might not feed or eject properly. Give it a try, see how it works, and look for usual wear afterwards. Ruger will take care of you if something is really wrong.

sdujour77@reddit

I can't readily see why it would be unsafe to fire. In fact, running a bunch of rounds through it may well fix the issue. You may also want to break the pistol down and lubricate it. If nothing else you'll have covered all of the bases should it turn out to be a dud, and you need to return it to Ruger.

dudas91@reddit

OP, just confirming that this is not your first ever gun and you know that most handguns have a "last round hold open" where the empty magazine causes the slide to stay open after ejecting the last round. This is done to let the shooter know that they ran out of bullets in the magazine and it facilitates quicker reloads.

LOL, no this is far from my first ever gun and I'm not referring to hold open. But I can see how it might be interpreted that way, so I updated the post. Hopefully it's clearer now.

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