Free flight school??
Posted by KrispySal@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 51 comments
I'm interested in becoming a commercial pilot but flight school is obviously very expensive. I was looking into airline-sponsored training but it looks like the maximum they'll cover is around $20k. It seems unlikely, but is there a way I can go to flight school for free, or nearly free (US btw)? Military is out of the question for me. I'm totally open to basically signing a contract saying I get free training and then must work for airline X for some years.
My dream is to be a helicopter pilot, and I was imagining getting free/cheap flight school via airline program, working commercial for a while and saving money, then paying my own way through helicopter training. I'm interested in fixed-wing too, just prefer helos.
I'm well aware that this is a very ignorant question and I'm not expecting a happy answer, but I figured it can't hurt to ask you guys. Thanks for your consideration.
definitelynotTrajed@reddit
Nothing’s truly free, but some schools offer great value with legal ways to build hours. A friend trained at Pelican Flight Training — paid for training, but then got hired as a CFI under an F-1 visa, which let him build time in the U.S. legally. For international students, that’s a rare and legit path to go from zero to airline-ready without going into crazy debt.
Creepy_Bumblebee_539@reddit
Nothing’s truly free, but some schools offer great value with legal ways to build hours. A friend trained at Pelican Flight Training — paid for training, but then got hired as a CFI under an F-1 visa, which let him build time in the U.S. legally. For international students, that’s a rare and legit path to go from zero to airline-ready without going into crazy debt.
Excellent_Concert133@reddit
Nothing’s truly free, but some schools offer great value with legal ways to build hours. A friend trained at Pelican Flight Training — paid for training, but then got hired as a CFI under an F-1 visa, which let him build time in the U.S. legally. For international students, that’s a rare and legit path to go from zero to airline-ready without going into crazy debt.
Dry-Ladder9610@reddit
Nothing’s truly free, but some schools offer great value with legal ways to build hours. A friend trained at Pelican Flight Training — paid for training, but then got hired as a CFI under an F-1 visa, which let him build time in the U.S. legally. For international students, that’s a rare and legit path to go from zero to airline-ready without going into crazy debt.
bmiracle77@reddit
I have to ask, why is the military out of the question?
Aggravating_Rub1302@reddit
Im guessing too old. The military only accepts up to a certain age, raised to 35 for the Army I believe...
chalk_in_boots@reddit
2 most likely are a medical condition (but most that disqualify military would for commercial too...) or the religions that prohibit military service.
Or previously served and got a dishonorable discharge.
Less likely, but possible, some militaries put a height restriction on pilots because of visibility/controls/getting kneecapped if you eject. From memory it's about 186cm for Australia
Additional-School-29@reddit
While all those probabilities can be the issue, Don't forget a basic requirement, age limit, i.e.,,,,aged out ,for military service (my situation)..
sandcoffee4@reddit
Military pilot also requires a college degree I think (without previous service). Have to be an officer
Final_Bunny@reddit
Yup
ethirtysix@reddit
I would say age is the number one possibility.
bmiracle77@reddit
I understand, I'm asking op if they have any specific reason they don't want to take the military route. I'm going to college with a flight program on the GI bill right now. I'm happy to talk to op about any apprehension in taking this route because so far it's been a great path.
Insaiyanngod@reddit
I want to join the military for the GI bill to do flight school at a 141. But currently 50k in debt and out of shape late 20 year old. Is it too late? Also how does the living situation work? If I finish the military and enroll in a school full time, how are people affording to live if they are in school 6-7 days a week?
bmiracle77@reddit
There's a lot to unpack in your question, and I'm a little drunk, but I'll do my best. In addition, I feel like you asked hoping for an honest answer, so I won't feed you any bullshit. I joined the USMC at 27, so age isn't a big issue, but I was also in good physical condition, so keeping up with the younger Marines wasn't a problem. Depending on how "out of shape" you are, this could be a long journey. However, bootcamp is designed to take the average American off the street and turn them into a troop (your mileage may vary based on the branch you join). I believe the Army accepts recruits up to 35 years old. That being said, if you are extremely out of shape, now is the time to start addressing the problem. A few months of dedicated conditioning and responsible eating are enough to get even moderately out-of-shape people to the minimum requirements to ship off to basic. There's no question about it; that much debt may make you entirely ineligible for service. I'd recommend talking to your local recruiter. With recruiting efforts struggling, there may be leniency for people in your position. There may be a waiver available, but $50,000 seems like it may be too high. Depending on the MOS contract you want, there may be no wiggle room at all for debt (especially for higher security clearances). If you get your situation in line and everything works out, you will be able to enlist; it's smooth sailing from there. Keep your nose clean for four years and do your job to the best of your ability. After your contact ends (and as long as you receive an honorable discharge), your benefits will open up. If you maintain enough credits per semester, you will be considered a full-time student. After four years in any branch, college will feel like a joke, no matter how much work professors throw at you. The VA will give you a monthly allowance (BAH) that can be used on housing, groceries, etc. Every GI Bill recipient's BAH is calculated based on the price of living in the county where their college is located. Keep in mind that that allowance is in addition to the GI Bill, which covers all costs associated with normal tuition as well as the required flight labs you will take at a Part 141 flight school (flight labs cost upwards of $200k alone). There are also plenty of grants that prior service members can apply for (specifically the pell grant) that award roughly 3.5k per semester for full-time students (this depends on your income, though). Overall, you can live very comfortably (as long as you don't have dependents) through four years of college, as long as you live within your means. One point that's important to add is that joining the military for college benefits is common. The incentive is there for a reason. But you must realize you are still trying to join a warfighting organization. You need to have that mindset going in. If you're unwilling to throw your name in that hat, then maybe you need to find another path. "Is it too late?" was your first question, but I saved it for last for a reason. Of course it isn't. The debt is going to be your biggest hurdle right now, but I promise the rewards are worth it. So you have plenty of time. This dream is definitely worth it, but you have to make some sacrifices now. If you need anything at all, don't hesitate to reach out. Good luck out there.
Final_Bunny@reddit
Interesting
dwn_n_out@reddit
that’s crazy when i got out i think there was only one flight school in the country that would take the GI bill.
juanmlm@reddit
There are other possible reasons. One that comes to mind is that some militaries don’t accept people with multiple citizenships. My kid has several, and if he ever wants to join he’d have to renounce some of them.
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
I've done a lot of research and talked to people and 1. I don't think I could even make it through flight school (the overwhelming speed would be too much for me) and 2. I'm not prepared to make such a large commitment if I might end up hating it.
remuspilot@reddit
If you are not prepared for the commitment, then flying isn’t for you.
hoirNu@reddit
Uhhh you can definitely be a pilot without wanting to make a very serious commitment to joining the military. Military flying is a very very different thing from civilian aviation
remuspilot@reddit
I'm well aware what both entail, but you can see OP demonstrates unwillingness of commiting to other things, too. I'm referring to this lack of dedication to any long term plan to be a fundamentally incompatible with long term planning in aviation.
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
I'm unwilling to commit to a long term plan if it has no flexibility that will allow me to adjust to my needs.
remuspilot@reddit
And you want someone else to front your cost.
There’s a way to do hobbyism aviation with the ratings you want, it’s called being rich as fuck.
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
yea well, just asking. Would love to be rich af.
bkaiser_3@reddit
Why is the military out of the question? Choose any branch of service and do a four year enlistment.
When you get out, go to a part 141 flight school at a college with your GI Bill. Your flight training and degree is paid for. That is one of many ways for your flight training to be ‘free’.
TheOnex22@reddit
Is it really free if you paid for it with 4 years of enlistment .?
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
Military flight school is off the table bc based on research and talking to people, I'm fairly sure I wouldn't make it through flight school (too overwhelming and fast), and even if I was confident in that I'm not ready to commit to 10 years + potential injury/death without being pretty sure I'll love it.
Theoretically could enlist for shorter term, but don't think I'd do well in that sort of environment either, plus I recently graduated w a bachelor's. Don't really want to go to college again :/
5432ca@reddit
Translation: doesn’t want to pay for flight school so he can drop out and do something different without having wasted his own money, just someone else’s
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
Mm not quite, but thanks for trying.
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
Mm not quite, but thanks for trying.
nunsaredope@reddit
You clearly havent done your research at all.
Already have a bachelors? Great, go to OTS and try to join a guard unit.
Think it's too fast paced? It's not. Very few people fail out or really struggle. (I instructed there for 4 years)
It just sounds like you don't want to join the military, that's fine. But your reasons you're giving make it sound like you don't have the drive to do something hard. Becoming a pilot isn't supposed to be easy because it's not an easy job.
Just my honest opinion from someone who is where you want to be.
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
I know I can't be a pilot for shorter term, I meant I could enlist normally, non pilot. Just for GI bill stuff.
All the research that I have done indicates that flight school is an information overload. I know myself and I believe I wouldn't be able to succeed in that environment. Are you saying that military flight school is not significantly faster or more intense than civilian?
You're right that I struggle with commitment. That is why I am doing my research, including asking questions here to people who know more than me, so that I can be as informed as possible when making a decision.
CrazyCauseWho@reddit
In Poland you can study pilotage which gets u an atpl (u need other qualifications like ppl cpl icao English and nvfr first) however I can't seem to find information about pilotage in Western Europe anyone heard about Sth like that?
Odd_Supermarket_4324@reddit
I want to know also
ReasonablePractice83@reddit
LMAO what. No. You're asking someone to give you $100,000... The only free flight training is usually only from the military.
TheMildGamerV2@reddit
Reddit continues to show why its users are absolutely insufferable. And you’re at the top of the list. I come here for answers and all I get is reminders why this the laughing stock out of all the “social medias.”
Dunberg23@reddit
We do have some fully funded (including a living alllowance) cadetships in the UK, but they have only just come back having been nonexistent for the best part of 30 years.
It’s the military or the tried and tested working and paying for it, with the odd loan here or there. You don’t like it, you don’t want to fly badly enough. Maybe that’s me being a bitter gatekeeper, but no one owes you a job as a pilot because you really want to be one.
Coffee2713@reddit
Not bitter, just real. Also basic economics.
Party_Concentrate621@reddit
You seem to not know a whole lot about this career path or just economy in general but that's perfectly okay. I'm not trying to be a dick, I don't believe in stupid questions.
first and foremost no, you will not find any free flight schools. that would require someone to train you for free, let you use a plane for free, and just hand you the fuel for free. for the 1500 hours you would be required to fly for any US airline.
there ARE cheaper methods definitely but you obv get what you pay for. this all comes down to which flight school you're going to. what people you know, if you've gone to college, if you work for an airline already as maybe a stewardess. ect. that you'll just have to research, talk to people, and use your better judgement off of what you know or will know
you need money. as its been said multiple times in this post and sub alone, this career isnt cheap. you're going to be nickle and diming your way through or have to save for a LONG time. usually youd end up at around $100,000.00 by the end of all of it. And were in America. if anyone can milk that much out of you, you're not getting it for free.
I believe anyone can do this with determination. if you're young and determined then you can get this done. get a job, maybe even work 2 jobs. and just save ur money. buy ramen, quarts of milk, use ur hot spot instead of paying for wifi. just any way you can. and if you can put forth that effort. it may take some years, but you'll get it done.
I'm really not aware of how rotary aircraft training works. So you'd have to look more into that.
I hope this helped. Dont worry, I was once new to this, I thought it wouldn't be as much as i thought, and even considered trying to find a free method. but there is none other than the military but they're looking for the best in their field, not rlly someone who just wants to fly planes for a living. So your best option is to just keep looking, never stop learning. and save save save that money. u got this.
ethirtysix@reddit
You had me right up until you put "military pilots" and "best in their field" into the same sentence unironically lol!
burrrtdrank@reddit
https://www.mesa-air.com/mesa-pilot-development
This is the only program that I am aware of that will fund your flight training to become an airline pilot.
Disclaimer - you will be on the hook with them for several years
nahbrolikewhat@reddit
several as in 5,6?
hackmo15@reddit
free training ...nope.
in the military you pay with sweat and tears.
private you pay with cash... and tears
sandcoffee4@reddit
10 Airlines That Pay for Flight Training
updated a week ago
dwn_n_out@reddit
could become a A&P and turn wrenches at flight school that covers the training
Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit
They would get a discount on their flight training if they worked at a flight school, not free training. They would still have to cover the CFI fees/costs, though.
dwn_n_out@reddit
thanks i thought there was a company out there that had you cover fuel and that was it.
Prestigious-Arm6630@reddit
One question, why not military? Its significantly cheaper and probably faster to do it that way.
Also, if you do an airline program, you will be working for them for a long, long time before you make significant money from it. If you really want to fly helicopters, 20-25k is enough to get you a Private license, a fair number of extra flight hours towards a CPL, and probably a helicopter rating.
KrispySal@reddit (OP)
See above replies for military answer (sry don't want to type it out a third time).
Yea that's true, but at least it would be a job. It would pay less than many pilots make, but I imagine more than an entry level design job (which is my alternative career option).
Yea it looks like 25k can get me just helo PPL, but would still need other ratings. I think all the way thru CPL and all ratings is well over 100k.
Wizfusion@reddit
Only way to get free flight training is either military or scholarships
MercuryMorrison1971@reddit
Kind of in a similar position, I am highly doubtful but commenting to subscribe and see what people say lol.