What is the best reddit alternative

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OhMyForm@reddit

Lemmy does need more traffic and if it gets easier to host it’ll be awesome I think it would have real potential for being a Reddit killer

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Stiltzkinn@reddit

It took more than 15 years for Reddit to take over the crown.

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drakoman@reddit

Yeah, I can’t take the community any more. I’ll wait until more people join. The people that are there right now are curmudgeons. I like Reddit’s community somehow more. Idk 🤷‍♀️

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MigrateOutOfReddit@reddit

The people that are there right now are curmudgeons.

You might be better off in the instance Beehaw than in lemmy.world. In Beehaw there's a limit on how much of a curmudgeon you can be before the admins say "nope, you're out".

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prototerminal@reddit

I'm glad I'm not the only who feels that way. Lemmy.world is full of them. I punched out from there yesterday because of that.

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Paisley-Cat@reddit

Lemmy curmudgeons?

It really depends on the community and the instance.

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drakoman@reddit

Fair enough. I love the blahaj blast girlies

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S_J_mk2@reddit

fediverse is non-starter for me. Not interested in anything fediverse

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OhMyForm@reddit

too confusing? fediverse is like an insurance policy against future dictators, like how the current dumpster fire is right here burning away.

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Stroov@reddit

What is lemmy is it a reddit 3rd party app I installed it and it seemed just like reddit

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Lemmy is not Reddit. It's a different service that operates like a bunch of interconnected mini-Reddits (called "instances"). Each Lemmy instance is hosted by an individual somewhere in the world. You start by creating an account on one instance. From there you can see and interact with communities on all the interconnected instances.

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Stroov@reddit

Still went a bit above my head tbh 😞 , like a dude or human owns the whole server

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torac@reddit

On Reddit, there’s one corporation, Reddit, who does the whole website.

On Lemmy, different people or groups who can basically open their own website, often tiny, website.

However, all the websites can talk to each other. Thanks to that, a user of any Lemmy.world can also see all the content from Lemmy.ca. Basically, as a user, it’s the same as on Reddit regardless of where you have an account.*

Benefits:

If one of the websites goes down, only a tiny fraction of the content is lost. On the other hand, if Reddit dies, all of Reddit is gone immediately.
Each (usually volunteer) website owner only has to host a tiny fraction of the userbase. That keeps it cheap enough to be run by volunteers and donations.

Each website(=instance) owner can decide to ban any specific other website. I.e. if one owner doesn’t want any porn, they can decide to remove all nsfw communities for users of their own instance. If you make an account, just check whether your instances says something about that beforehand.

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Stroov@reddit

o undestood a small chunk of it
but my main question is the instances are 4-5 as far as i saw
lemmy word and stuff making one account is enough for all

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torac@reddit

Yeah. One account should be enough.

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TheSmokingChair@reddit

I just want a reddit where I can actually converse with real people that are normal and intellectual... where do I go??

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Alert-Ad-9250@reddit

no joke.

4chan - most of their archives of their individual thematic forums are insane treasure troves.

Discord - maybe also, but too chaotic and no archives, most of the interesting niche stuff simply gets lost in time

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Masseffext12345@reddit

Cool

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MallNo4401@reddit

Anyone know alternative for typical ancient app or link

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Anon_Matt@reddit

Lenny Reddit alternative

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westwoo@reddit

The only alternative is Lemmy. Has lots of apps (including apps former Reddit apps like Pulse and Infinity) , the most amount of people and activity and community effort. You can go to https://lemm.ee , register, and use it as an ordinary site, but at some point could probably google some intro to lemmy to better understand what it really is

There are other sites, but they are dwarfed in activity by any middling online forum. In fact, searching for forums you're interested in is probably the only other possibility

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SmarfDurden@reddit

Squabbles also became a “free speech” platform so it’s not a good alternative

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NecroSocial@reddit

Free speech is not a negative there are ways of managing it that don't boil over into right wing circlejerk territory. Particularly allowing users to self-moderate what content, users and subs they view.

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TheArstaInventor@reddit

kbin enters chat

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cacheson@reddit

We need a better way to refer to the network of lemmy and kbin servers than "threadiverse". It just feels like such an awkward term.

On the other hand, people use "mastodon" to refer to refer to all of the mastodon-compatible servers. Maybe we're just going to be stuck with the threadiverse being referred to as "lemmy".

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westwoo@reddit

Kbin isn't stable yet and shouldn't really be recommended to random people, so yeah, I very consciously only focus on Lemmy

Also, "fediverse" isn't a good name, and "threadiverse" is even worse. It evokes association with dorkish 80s documentaries about space, but it's supposed to be a general purpose word like "google" or "twitter". Lemmy sounds a bit silly as well, but at least it doesn't have the same strong connotations

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TheArstaInventor@reddit

I would disagree because kbin has been very very stable for me in recent weeks if not months.

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PM_ME_an_unicorn@reddit

Even though the "Federated" aspect of lemmy is frightening at first, it's very efficient at increasing the user base as people on lemm.ee can interact with people on lemmy.world or feddit.de (and without really noticing it) Even better, you can somehow interact with Mastodon/Pixelfed/Calckey user, meaning that at the moment the project started it could reach content from other plaforms avoiding the "vast emptyness"

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westwoo@reddit

Yeah, I wouldn't bother people with any of that. It's inconsequential to begin using it, and often needlessly confuses people and they start making incorrect assumptions. Some people get excited by possibilities, most get dread from seemingly being expected to learn some distributed architecture crap

The important part is, that, say, https://lemm.ee can be treated in the exact same way as reddit. As a normal site with full contents of everything on Lemmy. For all intents and purposes that's Lemmy

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TimmieVB@reddit (OP)

Is Lemmy an modded app for reddit or a standalone app?

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clanton@reddit

It's very similar to Reddit, but not Reddit. Sync for Lemmy is the best app on Android and Voyager is great on iOS

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Even-Marketing-9273@reddit

It's independent to Reddit.

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ardi62@reddit

Lemmy with Alexandrite for desktop and Voyager for Android and iOS/Android is very good combo

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kdjfsk@reddit

Outside.

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cacheson@reddit

Outside will never be a viable Reddit alternative, and I'm tired of all this spam about it. There's very little content unless you're on one of the really popular instances. Sure, Outside zealots will tell you that doesn't matter because it's federated, but that aspect of it is so slow and clunky that it usually isn't worth it.

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Isthiscreativeenough@reddit

It's also not very accessible if you're eyes are sensitive to light or you have allergies.

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kdjfsk@reddit

its cool though, you can have unmoderated conversations. no cringe mods saying your reply was against the rules, or off topic, and it get removed or deleted. you can just say whatever.

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westwoo@reddit

No mods?? Say whatever??? I tried to free speech all over someone and they just walked away and I've been cancelled! Another person inflicted "pain" on me! Outside is the most oppressive platform there is, they make everyone a mod who can censor others and anyone can cancel you by not listening to you

I need a platform where I'm free to say anything and others are free to either listen to me or listen to me, and are completely free to be unable to do anything about me

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cacheson@reddit

Have you tried posting anything NSFW outside of a small private sub? The moderators do not take kindly to that.

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Fade_Dance@reddit

I like Discuit best. Lemmy is the only alternative if you need to switch to another high activity place or must have decentralization, but Discuit has enough content for me to enjoy throughout the day, and I'm enjoying participating and growing the site and align well with the site principles.

I mod Daytrading there and try and post some quality content. There are some other great niche subs there with mods actively submitting quality content as well like ASOT and Jazz that could use more users.

Obviously this is not a place if you want to just consume content and lurk (well maybe it would be good for digital decluttering), but if you are up for contributing and growing a community it's a welcoming place. There is no infighting or really much political content for that matter, which is huge to me. The news submitters are focused on quality content. I usually submit a dozen or two thought provoking articles a day in addition to my Daytrading writeups. I would encourage anyone interested to scroll through the sub list and drill down off the front page a bit because there are hidden gems.

Apps are in development and there is a PWA-style app available now.

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westwoo@reddit

Honest question - how is it better than joining some select niche facebook groups you like? It's not inherently bad to interact with the same 5000 people on each topic, but also, that kind of usage benefits from them being real personalities that you can follow and get to know

How I see reddit, is that it's a bunch of interchangeable anons. Something between 4chan and facebook - still next to zero human connection like on 4chan, and yet not the same barrage of crap. Kinda focus on things and topics, not people, but in a fairly positive non-depressively braindead way. To explore whatever you want without looking back on social rules but still actually explore and not drown in someone's feces. But it requires people to work otherwise it's the current Squabbles where a dozen anons have the site to themselves to endlessly post something, and only Lemmy has (barely) enough people for that

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Fade_Dance@reddit

There are enough users to where it seems like a blob of random people, just like other social media. I suppose there are a few more regular names I can pick out, but that doesn't detract from the experience.

There is already more than enough random/assorted content there to keep my interest. Like, even for assorted long form "thought provoking" content, I just posted 5 articles to FoodForThought that would take 30 minutes to an hour to get through. Let's say there are 100 other contributors doing what I do... that's 100 hours of articles to choose from for the day.

That said, of course a big reason I enjoy it is because I actively want to put in the work to grow a community. I did that with Digg when it was new, I did that when Reddit was new, etc. There is no doubt that the sweet spot isn't really reached until closer to 50k members - another 10x increase.

On another level I'm just a bit flabbergasted that everyone is milling around looking for an alternative without willing to put in any work. It's a stark contrast from what I remember back from the original Digg->Reddit migration 15 years ago, where there was much more willingness to build what they wanted to use. Reddit was empty. Literally just a few repost bots, and the site founders and their friends/family for the most part. Maybe a few Slashdot people too. It wasn't an easy process and it took a shit-ton of work to build up Reddit in the early days.

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westwoo@reddit

Ok, but how is it different from facebook? There are a lot more groups there including niche and small ones

I get facebook-ish vibes from how people seem to try to use Disquit, except on facebook there's more engagement and it's not out of the question to even have completely local and niche groups, like people who are into yoga or board games from your specific town

As for "growing a community" - what community?... If it's a reddit model of random anons there is no community. And if it's a facebook model - there's facebook and even if you don't like facebook - countless forums. What's the point of using a "community" about food on Disquit with barely any people there when there's say https://www.cookingbites.com/ with a lot more people?... Where you can make your own thread and create a subcommunity?...

Reddit is just a hosting platform for forums, it's not community. Lemmy clearly aims for the same. All the tiny Reddit alternative though?... They're essentially new forums with very few people and few subforums, with less people and activity than on many other forums. On some you can't even freely create your own subs/groups/communities, so it's literally just a forum #762731, no better or worse than countless others, on vBulletin or whatever else

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Fade_Dance@reddit

I like the Reddit-like format. I don't get Facebook vibes at all, but I guess I wouldn't know since I quite Meta products years ago.

I think people use it like Reddit. Yes, there are less people now. I don't want more capabilities, I basically want an improved Reddit as I've quit Reddit over the 3rd party app changes and really have always hated New Reddit anyways.

Growing the community means growing the site and content interaction and submission. So basically making the place interesting to visit, attract more content, and get more people to join. Same story as Reddit really.

It's a chicken and the egg problem really. I would (and have) posted cooking content there because I want to grow the site.

I get what you're saying but at the end of the day what can I say, out of all of the Reddit-likes I like the UI best, I like the minimalist approach, I like the moderation approach, and I'm super excited for future features like customizable feed algorithms that I think could be revolutionary to social media. I'm going to push for a tagging system (like Slashdot of old) where comments can be tagged funny/insightful/thought provoking/controversial/etc, and each user can weight their comment sort to see what they want. Same for the front page feed. No more getting swarmed with memes or politics. The politically engaged user can configure a politics forward page. The meme-lord can weight funny higher. Etc.

Other than Tildes I don't see any alternatives taking a slow, carefully thought out iterative improvement of the Reddit model. Lemmy is amazing but it's really its own beast.

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Spacemonkie4207@reddit

I use Infinity for Reddit and Relay for Reddit

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MigrateOutOfReddit@reddit

This subreddit is about platforms that compete with Reddit, like Kbin or Lemmy or Tildes. It is not about different front-ends for Reddit competing with the data-invasive official "app".

(That said Infinity was ported to Lemmy too, albeit under a new name, Eternity. And there's a spiritual successor to Apollo called Voyager.)

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Spacemonkie4207@reddit

Ah ok.

My mistake, thanks for the heads-up.

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TheArstaInventor@reddit

Kbin is very underrated and you don't miss any of the content from lemmy either thanks to federation, def give it a try

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westwoo@reddit

Did they fix the problems they had syncing with Lemmy content?

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Pamasich@reddit

The well known issues have been fixed, but there's still one that I don't see brought up a lot that's still around: Threads don't federate to lemmy until they're interacted with by a kbin user. Like up/down voting or boosting or writing a comment.

In general, kbin still does feel like the beta software it is. It's my favorite of the alternatives, but I can definitely understand people not wanting to join or recommend it at this stage.

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westwoo@reddit

Ok, thanks

I just wish people were a bit more responsible with recommending it. They know it has issues and they don't mention them - I don't think that kind of manipulation helps anyone. It just makes people think that "fediverse" is a mess

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TheArstaInventor@reddit

I mean, I disagree how we shouldn't recommend just because a software has bugs or issues, if you check lemmy's repo as well, you will always see it have bugs or issues being solved "work in progress".

Yes, I never disagreed that Kbin is not as mature as Lemmy as it is newer, but compared to july/june when a ton of drama and migration to alternatives were happening (and when Kbin was not as stable), it's certainly a LOT MORE stable now, many prominent bugs are solved and are continue to be solved.

But that shouldn't stop people from trying it, we should only stop recommending it if it ever got to an "unusable state" which it clearly isn't.

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nonearther@reddit

Lack of apps is what makes me not choose it

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TheArstaInventor@reddit

Artemis, Lunar (ones I remember top off my head) and a lot of good ones are coming, some are already out in early access/beta.

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MigrateOutOfReddit@reddit

My personal preference is Lemmy. It has:

enough content to be worth reading (still less than I'd like),
decent desktop interface (better than Reddit IMO, once I got used to it),
decent phone apps (I use Jerboa),
no ads.

You register on one of the servers ("instances"), and access content from most of them.

Which instance to choose: it's up to you, here's a list. It would be the best if you avoided the most populous ones though, federation works better when everyone gets spread out.

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