What is a place in the UK that has bad reputation but is actually nice?

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Hot-Box1054@reddit

Sheffield. I said what I said. I liked it there 🤷‍♂️

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ElactricSpam@reddit

Also the beautiful Peak District is 10 miles away

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Street_Coyote_179@reddit

The Peak District is within the city boundary and you can walk from hunters bar straight out to the peak via interconnected parks and green spaces.

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Sheffield is amazing, only city with a national park in its boundaries, lots of amazing parks and trees everywhere.. city centre redevelopment is nearly finished and looks great, full of friendly people and cool indie arts / music stuff going on, great theatres.

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fivetenfiftyfold@reddit

I bloody loved it.

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Benjamin-108@reddit

Sunderland’s actually decently friendly

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Sure-Present-3398@reddit

Birmingham ends up the butt of a lot of jokes but its a fantastic city for food.

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PlatformFeeling8451@reddit

Some good pubs too

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GagglewickGreen@reddit

This. Long live The Wellington!

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Outrageous_Ear5628@reddit

It has potential. Need to sort the bin problems, but outside of that its the same as any city, some nice area’s, some okay and some rough.

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Sturdy-Denim-Blue@reddit

And music! Some of the best venues in the UK for sure

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phatboi23@reddit

some decent clubs from what i've heard, just can't afford a night out on big club nights as hotel prices are a bit much for me lol

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Regular-Vegetable-51@reddit

Birmingham has the cheapest hotel accomodation I’ve ever stayed at, current one is next Saturday for £40 a night… never paid more than £60 for a night out stay.

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NebCrushrr@reddit

It's a great city, exciting and multicultural

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mizcello@reddit

I went for the first time on bank holiday with that little heat wave and I’ve told at least 4 people upon my return how nice it was! Dare I say, I even said ‘I could move here’

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hannahdoesntcare@reddit

Don't you dare do this to yourself.

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mizcello@reddit

Im from farming and live in the lake district, it would maybe be classed as a crime to leave to move to Birmingham lol it was just the busyness/different cultures etc that I was enjoying, It was pride weekend too and I've never seen anything like it, I thought it was cool! lol

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hannahdoesntcare@reddit

Haha aww you're forgiven. And wow Lake District! It's on my list and I'd love some tips from a local. Yes please do not ever move to Birmingham. Agree it gets a bad rep and there are nice things to do however. I left Birmingham 12 years ago and moved to London. So whenever I visit again it feels like the most backwards city

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sgt_Berbatov@reddit

I wouldn't worry about Birmingham feeling backward. Plenty of the posh London lot are buying up houses and properties in Birmingham and trying to ruin it by making it a London 2. Thanks HS2!

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mizcello@reddit

I stayed in a nice area and we went on a little tour with a guy and he actually said about the place we were staying at was extremely unaffordable for local people and that if I go a bit further out of Birmingham it’s a whole another world. We didn’t go anywhere else lol

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sgt_Berbatov@reddit

Yeah places like Kings Heath and Stirtchley were always rough around the edges but normal and affordable. Now though because of the people who wanted a bit of London but couldn't afford it decided to move there and make it expensive. They call it gentrification, I call it a cleansing. It's sad really.

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bornfromanegg@reddit

Steady now.

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alfa_omega@reddit

Down with this sort of thing

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sgt_Berbatov@reddit

I hear you're a Brummie now father. Is that the sort of thing we should all be doing?

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DogDrools@reddit

Really? Each to their own I suppose but I often spent a couple of days a week in Brum for work. I hated it. Too far from the sea and just grimy and depressing. Had to pass a dodgy looking cinema - can’t remember it’s name - saw some ‘characters’ there. To be fair this was almost 20 years ago and a lot can change in 20 years. Except being closer to the sea. 🙂

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

I’ve been going about 15 years and it’s got worse and worse. I used to say it was sketchy if you stepped off broad street, you now don’t even need that qualifier.

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whyy_i_eyes_ya@reddit

The way you've phrased that suggests you think Broad Street was one of the better areas... in which case I can't help you much.

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Gullible_Passion_331@reddit

You're forgetting that any criticism of Birmingham around these parts is a corporal offence, Lieutenant. Having grown up in the black country and visited Birmingham a lot, I can say it used to be really good. it used to be... Still, at least they got rid of the Brutalist library, but then went and replaced it with a modern monstrosity.

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DShitposter69420@reddit

Technically the erosion of the coastline means it has got slightly closer I’d imagine

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ianlSW@reddit

Not without its issues, its a big city after all, and its been badly run for a while, but I love the place. I moved here 3 decades ago, raised my kids here, it's genuinely a nice, friendly largely safe place to be, much greener than you'd expect with some great spots for food or nights out if you know where to look. Mind you, the fucking driving over the last few years is on another level. I don't believe any other city in the UK has as many absolute lunatics behind the wheels of cars as we do.

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ClairMaysin@reddit

This chimes with my memory, sadly, although I'd almost forgotten the horror! I'm down at the university come October. Think I'll take the train.

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Donnermeat_and_chips@reddit

I regularly drive through Bradford. Trust me it can get worse.

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Neither_Process_7847@reddit

Brums trouble is that one of the very worst looking bits is the very first thing visitors see - well, that and the tendency to talk itself down, the driving, and the bins...loads of great things but very few of them right in the middle.

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whyy_i_eyes_ya@reddit

Yeah the bits most people will see and think ‘this is Birmingham’: - driving through the M6 - going to a football match - arriving at the coach station - popping out of the train station between trains. Those are not the loveable parts thats for sure!

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Whodeytim@reddit

Driving in from the M6 at night with the skyline is a treat though, I encourage anyone to do it once.

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Neither_Process_7847@reddit

At a minimum they could tidy Station Street and the Moor Strret link up...at all! We've the order banning the megaphone evangelists from New Street to be grateful for at least, I guess.

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mysp2m2cc0unt@reddit

Don't know if the speed awareness courses are grouped together via some sort of order but a quarter of us were from Birmingham.

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pr0ph3t_0f_m3rcy@reddit

I used to work for a company that had a Birmingham office and went up occasionally. I don't think I've ever seen so many stunning women anywhere in my life. I don't think anyone's ever agreed with me, but I will die on this hill. The accent is still shocking though.

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ClairMaysin@reddit

I like the accent.

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

Birmingham lasses are shelved. At least that's what some weird Glaswegian dude said.

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sgt_Berbatov@reddit

I grew up in Birmingham. Where are these women you speak of?

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LevDavidovicLandau@reddit

> The accent is still shocking though. I can’t help but feel that there’s so much class and regional bias encoded in this statement. I’m Australian (not of British ancestry, for context) and live in the UK, and I can’t hear for the life of me what is to malign about the Brummy accent. I love the rounded vowels, it reminds me a bit of the bogan Aussie accent (the stereotypical one you think of when you think of the way we speak, which is very much not how I speak lol). It’s a rather musical accent! To be honest by contrast I find Yorkshire accents somewhat unpleasant to listen to because of their ‘staccato’ nature but everyone here seems to love them? You’ll get no arguments from me about Scouse though… wheezing from people with perpetually blocked noses is what it sounds like to me.

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hermanzergerman@reddit

I've long said that my native Brummie accent is like an inverted Aussie accent, inflecting down rather than up.

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DJGibbon@reddit

You're 100% right on this, there have been international surveys where the brummie accent rates near the top of the chart in terms of attractiveness. Brum has been looked down on for so long that the accent being bad has just become part of most people's default world view.

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whyy_i_eyes_ya@reddit

Im a Brummie and when I worked in a hotel I was often asked if I was an Aussie so there’s something there… You’re right about the class bias, and it’s interesting that a lot of the people who are first to insult is because of the accent online are the very same people who’d be straight to HR or the moderators if you made a slightly risqué joke about any other unchangeable characteristic someone had. It’s weird. But I quite like it as it’s just so bloody boring… very easy indicator of who lacks the wit and spark to bother getting to know or hanging around.

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pr0ph3t_0f_m3rcy@reddit

I admit the charge. It's not a defence, but the argument could be made that treating this as a classism issue rather than a sensory assault requires making certain socio-economic assumptions about Brum. Associating accent with class isn't really reliable and probably never has been. Look at Tim Westwood. He went to Norwich School and his dad was Bishop of Norwich. And yet he made a career out of sounding like a yardie. 90% of people under 21 in the Home Counties sound like extras from Top Boy.

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pr0ph3t_0f_m3rcy@reddit

That's how we roll in Berkshire. I'll agree with the scouse though. The blocked noses are because they're all tier one organised crime figures. The high voice and blocked nose comes from sitting on piles of drug money and football trophies, I think it's something to do with the altitude. For some reason I really, really, really like Yorkshire accents. If I lived there I'd have about 12 families and have to work 28 hours a day down t'gravy mine just to pay of all that child support and chippy teas. It just does something to me.

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Gullible_Passion_331@reddit

Penchant for the covering, eh?

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Sure-Present-3398@reddit

I'm from the Midlands and even I think we shouldn't be allowe on TV when I watch the local news. We should be dubbed.

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Single-Position-4194@reddit

LOL THis guy's got a Birmingham accent (and I think a good one); [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnVFEaQyYo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnVFEaQyYo)

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phatboi23@reddit

> We should be dubbed. at least subtitles haha

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TWOPlNTSPRICK@reddit

The issue isn’t the understanding, it’s the pain it causes to the ears of folks within 30 feet of the television

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phatboi23@reddit

not wrong. like my mate says "Liverpudlian is super high hz static" lol

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Bossman_Mike@reddit

I agree on the women. At one point (maybe still is) Birmingham was the UK's youngest (by mean average) city.

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ClairMaysin@reddit

I heard on the radio the other week that the genuine Balti curry was at risk! This just cannot happen.

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TheFirstGlugOfWine@reddit

We went for a weekend for my birthday a few years ago (we were going to a particular restaurant) and all 4 of us loved it. There were really good bars in the evening and a really good vibe all round and the food options for breakfast were great. We stayed mainly around a place and a I can’t for the life of me remember the name of it but it feels like it’s sprung out of somewhere that was previously very run down. It reminded me of Ancoats in Manchester but less developed and on its way up. There really is a lot to like about Birmingham and I’d definitely go back.

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Diem-Perdidi@reddit

Digbeth, possibly? Does the Custard Factory ring a bell?

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TheFirstGlugOfWine@reddit

Yes that’s it! I don’t know what the locals think of it but it really stood out to me as somewhere a bit different with loads of nice places to have a drink.

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Diem-Perdidi@reddit

I lived there for seven years so I've a soft spot for it. Still a great place to go out and still a little rough around the edges but they're gentrifying the fuck out of it now, loads of new towers going up and the Metro will be along the High Street any day now... any day now... really soon

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TheFirstGlugOfWine@reddit

It’s been like that in most areas of Manchester. The NQ used to be a little rough around the edges and so did Ancoats but everything has been turned into super expensive apartments and thousands of cafes. I think it’s lost its charm a bit, which is a shame but it’s all in the name of progress.

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MatniMinis@reddit

Got a good coffee scene as well, I'll happily spend half a day wandering around with my camera eating and drinking coffee. If anyone enjoys good Chinese food there is a noodle place in the China District called Dezhou Braised Chicken that does homemade noodles and braised chicken for like £11 and it's absolutely amazing and about £10 for a massive plate of the! Take cash though as they don't take card 😂 And then after just round the corner is Ocha which is a brilliant single origin coffee place.

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AnonJJ@reddit

I live here and it's interesting what you said about the coffee, because I find the coffee scene here so lacking? There's limited coffee shops in the Centre and they're mostly chains. Compared to, I don't know, Manchester, they have so many cute independent coffee shops which I find really lacking in Birmingham. That being said, Ocha is really nice and they do quite a decent Tiramisu!

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RPlaysStuff@reddit

As a Brummie, I despise the town centre. All the best places in Birmingham are outside of it so I find it so unfair when it's judged purely on that hole.

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FuckGiblets@reddit

I’ve never even bothered thinking about Birmingham. In fact when I met a new friend who chooses to live there my response was “Why?” Then I spent a few weeks there for work and I absolutely loved it. Absolutely great for food (the China town is fantastic), great atmosphere with so much going on. I could honestly see myself living there.

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TharrickLawson@reddit

Yeah I often joke that for the cost and time frame of HS2 we could simply have demolished Birmingham and rebuilt it 20 minutes closer to London, or just not rebuilt it at all, but I've had some damn good times in Brum and would be sad to see it actually go

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publiusnaso@reddit

One of the best meals I’ve ever had was at a restaurant in Brum called Land. It was vegan, and my go-to fancy meal of choice is usually a fillet steak.

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Whodeytim@reddit

There's a couple of great drinking places next to it too. Loki wines if you're a wine person is sensational, and the good intent is a lovely little quiet pub

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theModge@reddit

I deliberately moved here from Essex. Literally the only two advantages I can think of for Chelmsford over Birmingham is the air quality. And it's slightly quicker to get to London. I've been here twenty years, just brought a larger house here and my daughter goes to school here, I've fairly firmly made my choice.

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rawcane@reddit

It's weird that it's UK second city but nothing seems to go in or out

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Formal_Image4354@reddit

I moved to a town near by so bham is now my closest big city, I was expecting an absolute dump but honestly I really like it! Great shows, entertainment, food, shopping, always events and things to do.

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EfficientAd6877@reddit

My mother was born and raised in Birmingham. She met my dad in WWII and moved to the US to be with him.

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Kewgirl45@reddit

Very warm and genuine people. Decent shops too.

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Fun_Budget7641@reddit

Nah it’s a shithole.

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washismypilotnow@reddit

Agreed, though when I went the binmen were on strike so it was a bit of a shithole

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That_Performance_802@reddit

Not good for much else. I go there regularly to take my daughter to the children's hospital. Often have bloods in the morning then scans/clinics in the afternoon so have time to kill. Shit hole full of araeholes.doesnt feel safe to walk around. We both hate the place

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its_bydesign@reddit

Was about to be my pick. Was one of my favourite cities for a random trip or night out. So many people have big personalities and are outgoing, it makes for some serious fun times and I always meet new people.

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evilgomeow@reddit

Food, music, entertainment, parks and especially local treasures like the Red Brick Market and Dad's Lane chippy, we've got a lot going for us here!

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ylogssoylent@reddit

It's got a lot to it but it's a shockingly ugly city

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Mooman-Chew@reddit

I was in London one week and Birmingham the next with work and London has a lot to offer but Birmingham just had a real people authenticity that I was surprised at. Not starting a north v south thing but it feels more northern than not. Manchester is another place I liked so maybe I’m just a sucker for a tram

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BugRepresentative514@reddit

Utter dump

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signol_@reddit

Agreed, I spent 3 years at uni there. I wonder what happened to the website bitminghamitsnotshit .com ?

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Scholar_Royal@reddit

Brill sense of humour

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alexmate84@reddit

I had a few days of work down there. People were fantastic as well.

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VariousClassroom8056@reddit

I went to Glasgow for work and I thought the buildings etc were lovely. Everyone was fine.

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Ok_Impact9745@reddit

Glasgow has only ever had a bad reputation with English people who think Scotland is just crack heads and deep fried mars bars. It's the same with Liverpool.

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Perite@reddit

This is a bit simplistic. Glasgow city centre is absolutely beautiful and a really great place. And some of the residential areas have serious deprivation issues. There is a reason that some areas of Glasgow has one of the lowest life expectancies in Western Europe. It’s a big and massively varying city with some parts that much nicer than UK average, and some that are much worse

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TotallyFineWithIt@reddit

> Glasgow city centre is absolutely beautiful and a really great place. Glaswegian here. This is either sarcasm, or a bot gone badly wrong.

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gavlar_8@reddit

Living in Glasgow and the surrounding area, I can confirm that the city centre is not beautiful. The buildings are but the certain areas are absolute shitholes.

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emsquared@reddit

Sadly the city is mostly a building site at the mo.Hope the George Square revamp is worth it.The city has its problems and problem areas (i didn't grow up here but did grow up in a famous crap Town in England but even there did not have the litter problem that Glasgow has). Wish there was less deprivation but still a great city.

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Fearless-Summer-4847@reddit

The city centre is fine but for me the prettiest parts of glasgow are in the West End - around the uni and Kelvingrove.

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Phil_Mike-Huntin@reddit

Ah yes the 4 corners, really beautiful stuff that.

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Jenpot@reddit

Union St in general, really. Or all the half empty/tat/vape shops all along Argyle St or Sauchiehall St. I know it's in a transition period with the avenues project at the moment but the city centre is currently very grim. Beautiful isn't the word I'd use.

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Embarrassed-Image-11@reddit

When four titans join forces and create a Mecca of deep fried goods. What could be better

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LongjumpingLab8@reddit

Glasgow is amazing

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JammyWaad@reddit

I went to an away match at Ibrox and not 5 minutes off the bus, someone asked if I wanted to either buy some meth or did I have some meth. Couldn’t make out the first part of the sentence but “some meth” was crystal clear. True story. Rangers vs Newcastle pre-season friendly 2010.

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Usual-Description800@reddit

Glasgow is the exact same as Liverpool in the sense that if you don't step outside the city centres then it's lovely. As soon as you do though...

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ColbysRevenge@reddit

The city centre isn't even in the top five of nicest areas in Glasgow. Though the grid is nice and the buildings are great

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HamsteronA@reddit

There are quite a few areas of Glasgow far nicer than it's city centre

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Jenpot@reddit

This is a mad take. Yeah there's some rougher suburban bits but there's also loads of affluent ones, and most are somewhere in-between.

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R_110@reddit

All the people who told me Glasgow was a shit hole were Scottish haha

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Kizzieuk@reddit

I'm from greater London I used to go to Glasgow in the 60s/ 70s with my uncle who was a lorry driver. It was awful, drunks passed out on the pavement. fights everywhere, and this was daytime. Once we had a overnight stay and went to the cinema and every time a English advert came on everyone went mental and threw things at the screen. Imagine my horror when my gentle lad years later (very late 90s) said he was going to university in Glasgow. I was so scared for him. He invited me to his home and I was amazed at how different it was from when I was his age. it was lovely and it gave me peace of mind. He never came home. Scotland is his country and Glasgow is his hometown. He is very successful has a lovely family of 4 children who are 100% Scottish in their heart and minds even though both parents were born in England.

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yougavememagical@reddit

As a Glaswegian, this was really lovely to read. So many people think Scotland, and in particular Glasgow, is a shit hole. My dad was born in 1960 and grew up in a town in the East that had a terrible reputation and was very impoverished, but has improved immensely now. I'm so proud to be Scottish with how it is now. Glasgow has its run down parts sure, but the people are good. Hope your lovely family are doing well ❤️

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Kizzieuk@reddit

They are doing very well thank you , they are all in the performance arts and no one has thrown anything at them because of their English accents 😂 Honestly, if I didn't have other children and grandchildren here I would also be living in Glasgow. I'm very glad my son went there and changed my mind about it. Something to make you laugh. when I first went to see him I had only been there about 2 hours and someone knocked on his door, My son went to the door and I could hear this very angry raised voice but no clue what he was saying. protective mum with her preconceived thoughts about Glasgow coming to the fore, I went to the door to stop him killing my son, and my son was smiling and laughing. Yeah, he wasnt angry, he was just Glaswegian with a very thick accent telling my son a funny story 🤣

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yougavememagical@reddit

Oh good to hear! I'm not surprised with the performance arts, so many good schools here for that. Haha I can believe that! My boyfriend's family are from the north of Glasgow, very very thick accent, and their talking is not talking, it is essentially shouting in your face 😂 they could be telling you the loveliest, most wholesome story in the world but it'll sound from the outside like you're being berated for something 😂 no wonder I have tinnitus haha

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

I love both cities! And I’m not only English but from the south east 🤣

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mattay22@reddit

That’s not entirely true, it still has a bit of bad reputation in Edinburgh and outside the central belt

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Extra-Sound-1714@reddit

Given some estates in Edinburgh, they are having a laugh. There is a reason trainspotting was set in Edinburgh

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Hara-Kiri@reddit

Glasgow had a bad reputation because it was extremely rough and has been cleaned up tremendously.

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

Not true at all. Other places in Scotland think Glasgow is a shithole as well.

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DanielReddit26@reddit

Are you saying we're not crackheads who eat deep fried mars bars?

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Ok_Impact9745@reddit

If you want to be crack head who just eats deep fried mars bars then go for it. You never see a fat crack head so you could probably have all the deep fried mars bars you wanted without any worries.

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Jedski89@reddit

Also easy to eat when you have no teeth.

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Greggs-the-bakers@reddit

Just don't wear either green or blue if you don't want any hassle

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OldGodsAndNew@reddit

Unless you're wearing very specific shades of either colour, on matchdays, you'll be absolutely fine Our national flag is blue ffs

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FitSolution2882@reddit

Went there for work a few years ago. Decided I wanted a McFlurry at about 11:30pm. Walked through the city centre to find a McDonalds and was shocked at how non-dodgy it felt compared to my hometown in the home counties.

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hallouminati_pie@reddit

Glasgow has legit some of the best architecture in all of Europe. The city centre really is a showcase of the second city of the Empire but the West End is as nice as anything you'd see in Bath or Edinburgh. https://preview.redd.it/9uczdd46i55h1.jpeg?width=596&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=886096f35ed8041e1264067cb6cda49c7a1f8ebf

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Glittering_Echo_7963@reddit

Where's the photo? I live in Glasgow and I can't recognise it...

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HoverShark_@reddit

Those trees in the bottom left are the highest up part of Kelvingrove Park (I think)

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Own_Caregiver9493@reddit

Park circus. Woodlands road area

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pr0ph3t_0f_m3rcy@reddit

Glasgow is my favourite city in the world. Unreal place and people.

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Adventurous-Read-765@reddit

Thank you!

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feeb75@reddit

My favourite city the UK

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KonkeyDongPrime@reddit

Glasgow is fucking wicked. If you can deal with the weather, would be my top recommendation.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

What’s wrong with the weather? I’m going next weekend for a hen do and one of my outfits is very skimpy…

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

It's in the west of Scotland, take a wild guess lol. That said you're not going to look out of place in town wearing a skimpy outfit. Maybe bring a brolly.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Ffs I just knew this would happen 😂 I didn’t pay for a suitcase so only got a carry on. Frostbite it is

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Pale_Guarantee_2622@reddit

Weather is supposed to be good next week in Glasgow 😁

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Ooh I hope so! 🤞🏼

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Pale_Guarantee_2622@reddit

Aye it’s pishing down til about Tuesday then we’re getting sun 😁

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Ah thank God!! Legend, thank you

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

Where you coming from? It won't be too cold, just quite wet.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Only England. Are you having similar temperatures at the moment? I saw rain forecast but it didn’t look like it was gonna be too bad

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

Na it's been significantly cooler than in England and a hell of a lot wetter.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Deep joy 🙃 can you get some friends together and do a weather dance for us? There’s still time to turn it around!

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

Oh believe me if Glaswegians could change the weather with a rain dance the city would look like one big silent disco.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Lmao. I can’t wait, it’ll be brilliant regardless

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

Yeah it's a great city for a night out. You'll make friends 100%.

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bornfromanegg@reddit

Oh don’t take any notice, I’m sure it’ll be lovely weather.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

I can smell the sarcasm all the way from here

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AmbitionSweaty9889@reddit

Glasgow is wicked, until the very small percentage it’s not. If you know what I mean. But it’s no worse than any of the big cities down south. Liverpool & Birmingham to name a few.

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pr0ph3t_0f_m3rcy@reddit

"My grandad won a fight at school so every year I go for a walk to celebrate".

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Jenpot@reddit

We should change our motto to this tbf.

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jonquil14@reddit

Glasgow is amazing!

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John_Thundergun_@reddit

I'm biased as I live in Glasgow but I totally agree. Whenever I say to someone who doesn't know that I live in Glasgow I'm always met by a bit of a look and I have to explain its not as bad as it's reputation suggests. It's rough in places but as someone not involved in anything dodgy I've never had any bother anywhere and feel safe here. Loads to do and good transport connections, no massive issues that you don't see in any other big city.

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hugehand@reddit

Back in Ireland when we told people we were moving to Glasgow they were worried for us. Lots of disparaging talk about how rough and horrible the place is. Three years later and I've never found a more welcoming, lovely, fun, vibrant, and interesting city. Amazing people, beautiful architecture and parks, amazing foodie culture. This is my home and I'm never gonna move anywhere else. Glasgow is the best.

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Parking-Pirate8628@reddit

Glasgow has absolutely beautiful architecture combined with a decent amount of deprivation and social problems. It’s a great city.

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Sturdy-Denim-Blue@reddit

Just got back from Irvine via Glasgow, couple of days each way for work and it was lovely. But I don't live there, so what the fuck do I know.

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FaxOnFaxOff@reddit

Glasgow has some rough parts (Estates) but Glasgow was the British Empire's second city and it shows.

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Successful-Cut7999@reddit

most of them

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geoakey@reddit

Visited Peterborough recently and was pleasantly surprised. It didn’t really have anything that makes it stand out, but to say I’d only ever heard bad things, I thought it was very pleasant.

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midsommer_wandererr@reddit

I'm local to Peterborough and have been since childhood. Maybe I'm nostalgic but some areas, particularly the centre and Queensgate have become a lot prettier/tidier in the last few years. There seems to always be something on at the cathedral, the market on a Saturday always looks busy plus Ferry Meadows nearby is a lovely green space to visit.

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pivotstickman@reddit

The roads around the city centre are quite bad. Anything from Fitzwilliam st to Gladstone st are a mess with rampant drug use

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midsommer_wandererr@reddit

That is such a shame, honestly. I really thought things had improved.

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pivotstickman@reddit

The centre where the fountains are do have good community events now. When I lived in the centre around 2 years ago, we had drug users sleeping outside outside our flat door, dealing out in the open and they were defecating in our flat lobby too. All that for an extortionate £900 🤯

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CharacterEye3775@reddit

Skegness has a huge beach and there's rollercoaster rides

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bored_toronto@reddit

Gotham City has Batman. Skegness has...[The Jolly Fisherman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jolly_Fisherman).

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R3DSlX@reddit

Royston Vasey is hard done by. Locals love it.

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shegaveitallaway@reddit

You're my wife now

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bored_toronto@reddit

Dave?

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No_Neighborhood6856@reddit

Staines

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Bose82@reddit

Cleethorpes. It's always the butt of jokes for terrible seaside UK towns, but it's actually decent. With the renewable energy industry really taking off here offering good jobs, there's a bit more disposable income for families. Plus companies like Orsted and RWE are investing in the area. We have a big armed forces weekend every year that attracts thousands of visitors. The outer areas are pleasant to live in as well

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hellopo9@reddit

Lots of the big northern cities have rejuvenated themselves as regional hubs. Newcastle and Liverpool, in particular, get a bad rap and are actually nice.

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Preposterous_Feline@reddit

I grew up in Newcastle and have always been its biggest advocate but when I went south to uni (1999-2002) I was dismayed at how many people from elsewhere in England casually wrote it off without ever having been there themselves - comments like “it’s a sh*thole”, people being surprised that it actually had a castle and a cathedral, assuming it was some kind of 19th century industrial zone as opposed to an ancient mercantile city, an ex-GF being astonished that there were picturesque towns around it in Northumberland. Interestingly it was people from other maligned places like Liverpool, Hull, Glasgow and Aberdeen who backed me up and stood up for it…

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Desperate-Drawer-572@reddit (OP)

Do they really? Usually hear positive on both

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Tachanka-Mayne@reddit

I feel like in the south, there is a general view from people who’ve never been to Northern cities (or haven’t been to one in the past 30 years) that they’re all shitholes. But most have had a lot of development since then, so when southerners do end up visiting the likes of Manchester or Leeds the usual reaction is that they’re surprised at how nice it is.

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chadgalaxy@reddit

I'm from Leeds but lived in the south for a few years and people couldn't wait to tell me how much of a dump and a shithole Leeds and the North in general was when they found out where I was from. Leeds was far nicer than some of the places I was staying down there and I couldn't wait to get back. I've had friends visit from London and be genuinely shocked how nice it is and tell me they were expecting some kind of deprived hellhole like something out of Kes. I've had people on reddit tell me that can't possibly be true and that no one in the south has a negative opinion of the north but I've experienced it enough times in real life to know some do.

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Fred776@reddit

I moved _from_ Newcastle to the south over 30 years ago and I still think it's the best place I have lived. Some of it might be rose tinted spectacles because my time there coincided with the best part of my 20s but I suspect not. Even back then, there were lots of great aspects to it like the green spaces, easy access to the coast and to Northumberland and the Lakes, decent "inner city" housing at a time when that had become unusual in many cities, loads of cultural activities (honestly saw more theatre, music, cinema etc in those few years than the following 30 because it was so easy to access), good pubs, restaurants, decent public transport, etc etc.

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Constant-Estate3065@reddit

Yes, because southern cities (apart from London obviously) don’t tend to get anything like the sort of investment northern cities benefit from.

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hellopo9@reddit

When I graduated from my master's a few years ago a mate from Cork got job offers in Liverpool and Oxford. He said he would have liked to be in Liverpool (easy to get a flight/boat home, lots of Irish people), but was worried it was too rough and dangerous. The bad rep is there, but luckily it's improving.

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holytriplem@reddit

Liverpool used to have a bad rep 20 years ago, but I think the whole European Capital of Culture thing has improved its reputation

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Constant-Estate3065@reddit

Northern cities do benefit from a lot of government funding. Down south London is the only city that gets anything at all.

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hellopo9@reddit

This is true. https://preview.redd.it/ymrdt0k5l85h1.png?width=998&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0f102b47dc862b3254eaf5ecf9b8957c335ef68

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SwiftieNewRomantics@reddit

I know its rougher than it used to be, but I still love Blackpool.

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Stunning_Morning_455@reddit

I'd say let down more than anything. It's an unfortunate result of weird planning law regarding change of use categories.

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Klimpomp67@reddit

Gotta disagree. Won't shit on it but I *knew* someone would bring this up and no. It's fucking bleak.

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festering_knacker@reddit

Keep it up bro keeps it quiet for the residents.

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sunglower@reddit

Me too. I find most people there are lovely. Went on an overnight trip there recently and had a great time. The B&B owners were great and we've said we'll go stay with them again.

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buggeryorkshire@reddit

Not a fan of Blackpool as I'm from Preston. But have to say St Anne's beach is ace - far enough from the pissed chavs but near enough to wander over. We go there in the motorhome whenever we have Airbnb guests in the house and it's lovely, plus our Labrador gets a proper swim.

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Xenozip3371Alpha@reddit

Man, when I was a kid in the 2000s me and my family had almost monthly visits to Blackpool, loved going around there as a kid.

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CanWeNapPlease@reddit

It's really crazy that it isn't more popular or been invested in more. It's got a beach, piers, a cool tower (not on fire), a theme park, illuminations... There's some decent restaurants as well.

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SwiftieNewRomantics@reddit

Amazing chippies! And the pier! As you say it’s criminal it’s just kinda left to nothing.

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festering_knacker@reddit

95% of Fylde is cool as fuck. The rough 1/2 a square mile in the middle is just a bit.....rough.

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Odd-Paramedic-3826@reddit

Blackpool just needs the right spin. Considering it's such a time capsule, they should lean into that to attract visitors for historical, cultural, and educational purposes. rather than relying on gimmicks

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wrappedinplastikkk@reddit

Hull actually has a great vibe for a smaller city, fun music and food scene and has some great places to live

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Even-Mind-9361@reddit

Absolutely. Some of the best Fish n Chips too.

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TheBlueprint666@reddit

Played multiple shows at the Hollywood & Vine back in the day and still some of the best chips and curry sauce I’ve ever had

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hidingbehindyoursofa@reddit

Chip spice!

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Kirsty5@reddit

Went during COVID era instead of travelling abroad... Great place. Some questionably named but very enjoyable pubs, good theatre scene and lots of interesting history

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Cantona-Eric-7@reddit

Was at uni there in late 90s. Rough as anything but what a great night out.

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ClairMaysin@reddit

Me too! But it's also my home city. Sadly it's not such a great a night out anymore, except in the Avenues area.

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Intelligent_Lab_234@reddit

Wish my first time in hull hadn’t involved immediately getting into a cab with a driver who wanted to tell me all about his dislike for various different races of people during the journey, really affected my impression of the place which otherwise seemed nice

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ElactricSpam@reddit

Went up there recently for various reasons and everyone we met was lovely! Also went to Beverley and ditto.

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what_is_blue@reddit

And now a Premiership football team!

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jupiterspringsteen@reddit

Premier league. Hasn't been called the premiership for like 20 years

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wavypaprika@reddit

Agreed, lots of independent restaurants since chains don't seem to want to invest here. Moved to York for a year for work and genuinely missed Hull's food The old town and marina are also lovely Though like a lot of towns and smaller cities, the high street is dying. The biggest mistake was building a new shopping centre with a big tesco away from the high street so a lot of the foot traffic in the city centre just stopped, so like another comment said it can feel like a ghost town in certain areas

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kk7976@reddit

This! I moved there in 2015 and it was absolute shithole but now it's lovely!

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CitronShot2@reddit

It definitely wasn’t a shirhoke in 2015, you can move away for being so rude! I don’t even live there anymore but wow

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Silver_Bed4392@reddit

Hull is the only place in the UK that never joined British Telecom. KCOM had cream phone boxes

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Refrigeratorlight420@reddit

I used to work in an awful broadband sales job for BT years back. It was always demoralising trying to pitch to a customer then clocking their address was in Hull so it would be a dead end

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No_Cartoonist981@reddit

As someone in IT I always loved this idiosyncrasy

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GodEmprahBidoof@reddit

As someone who works in IT and has to occasionally deal with KCOM, I don't

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No_Cartoonist981@reddit

Ok to be fair I’m not first line anymore so its been a while since I’ve had to deal with it and rose tinted glasses may be being deployed

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LevDavidovicLandau@reddit

So they’re the KCOM who sponsored Hull City’s stadium?

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Crandom@reddit

I was surprised by how many young people were there and vibrant cafés/restaurants. Definitely exceeded my expectations.

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KonkeyDongPrime@reddit

Has improved since I left in 2013

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Renown-Stbd@reddit

Or when I left Ena Street in 1971?

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CranberryCheese1997@reddit

I know correlation doesn't equal causation but this still needs to be investigated. Did the place you move to statt mentioning how the place is going downhill recently?

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MildredSeesDemons@reddit

I think you may be on to something…

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Nuthetes@reddit

I was gonna post Hull. It was some genuinely great museums--the street life museum, the maritime museum, the Hull & East Riding Museum are all excellent. The Deep too--probably the best sea life museum in the UK. There's also William Wilberforce's house which I didn't get the chance to go in but I have heard is excellent too.

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FilmFanatic1066@reddit

The aquarium is also cool as fuck

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pharmamess@reddit

And so are you too.

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roidweiser@reddit

Ahem, it's the world's only submarium

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Krakshotz@reddit

The city centre area around the station has got a much needed facelift. Unfortunately it now has 2 shopping centres too many. Prospect Centre is old and dingy. Princes Quay has loads of empty units

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Intelligent-Tea-4241@reddit

I was there for work, a ghost town and felt rough and unsafe. Maybe I missed something.

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TheDark-Sceptre@reddit

Well of course, it was the city of culture!

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OkFinding8093@reddit

Only been to Hull twice but I liked it a lot especially down by the boats, nice vibe

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Srapture@reddit

Milton Keynes. It's a meme for being a crap place to live, but it's got so much to do, so many dedicated green spaces and lakes, it's like a 35 minute train straight to Euston, it's super quick and easy to drive around, and there are dedicated walking and cycle routes that pass under all those big roads so you never have to cross them. Got lovely little towns on the edges like Stony Stratford and Newport Pagnell for comfy pubs and whatnot. I can hardly imagine ever moving anywhere else at this point.

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CharlieH_@reddit

Milton Keynes is genuinely a great city. Has some fantastic green spaces as well as amazing restaurants and leisure activities

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Aesthetictoblerone@reddit

Liverpool. Great food, great nightlife, great people, great things to do. I feel so welcome there, even with my annoying southern accent.

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89Dan@reddit

Dundee. Was always seen as the armpit of Scotland for decades, these days I really enjoy the city centre and waterside. It still has that grittiness and post-industrial city feeling but it has been cleaned up a lot and there's plenty of lovely bars and cafes etc.

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Warburton379@reddit

Milton Keynes Great for pedestrians, good for cars, loads of greenery, decent shopping centre, generally safe and clean.

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benh2@reddit

I went for the first time last week. It is certainly quirky in comparison to anywhere else but I was weirdly impressed.

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grimdwnsth@reddit

Lived there for a couple of years a couple of decades ago out of geographical necessity - one of us had job in Coventry, the other London. We spent months avoiding the place due to its reputation, checking out all the other nearby towns and villages to buy a place. Then one day we were like, fuck it, let’s take a look. Bought a brand new house within a week - quick commute to station, lots of safe cycling to keep fit, great shopping, and skiing and theatre at the weekend. We didn’t know what the bad rep was about. Only moved away because when both our jobs were in London, it made no sense for us to be spending £8k a year on train tickets.

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Fair-Lengthiness-212@reddit

The most Marmite of places in the UK.

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JMFe95@reddit

I drove through it once and it made me immensely sad. Each to their own!

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MinimumSilver5814@reddit

It's a dump that is 50% retail parks and 50% run-down housing hidden behind a few trees.

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RubberDingyRapidsBr0@reddit

I can't stand the roundabouts

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CalligrapherShort121@reddit

Preferable to traffic lights. Traffic flows freer with those roundabouts, and coupled with the grid system, you have options in heavy traffic to circumvent and arrive at your destination from a different angle.

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Active_Definition_57@reddit

Having grown up and learnt to drive in Srevenage the roundabouts are fine with me.

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SerendipitousCrow@reddit

Moved here from Aylesbury and I love it. So much green space and open water, and especially nature accessible without a car. I live about four miles north of the centre but if I want I can cycle there 95% off road and that's just getting from my house to the redway network. I've got canals, lakes, and forests all nearby My commute takes me from the north of the centre to Bletchley but the A5 makes bypassing the city quick and easy. I've got every shop I could need.

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adammx125@reddit

I was under the impression that Milton Keynes didn’t have a bad rep as such, more a rep for being an excruciatingly boring place with zero character.

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Hell-o-Sidney@reddit

Moved here 5 years ago and seeing the little delivery robots patiently waiting to cross the road is still an instant serotonin boost.

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GoldenGolgis@reddit

I went for the first time for work recently and while I found the new-ness of it a bit eerie, I enjoyed myself!

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slayerofthepoonhorde@reddit

It’s a bit of a meme to shit on MK but I actually love it. I live about 25 minutes away and visit often. Something about it has always appealed to me like no other city in the UK for some reason.

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propostor@reddit

Bradford! It surely has its really shitty parts but the city centre is really nice, great architecture, and plenty of the suburbs have that classic West Yorkshire picturesque village feel.

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_-JUPITER-_@reddit

I live in bradford and its hiddeous. idk why anyone could say its nice in any way. it also has the highest crime of any city in Europe apparently. cant wait to leave.

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Swannyj95@reddit

Was there for 3 months doing night shift in a shop on the ‘high street’ a few years back. Horrendous place. Genuinely nothing good

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FitSolution2882@reddit

"yeAH BuT thiNk oF tHe ARchitECtuRe!" I agree with you. I went through it a year or two ago and it was a complete shithole. Worse driving standards than Portugal as well.

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tribtb@reddit

i left, twice, and came back. bradford isn’t as bad as it’s portrayed. it’s got its issues, like any big city does, but that doesn’t discredit all the good bradford has.

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Ill-Manufacturer-456@reddit

Yeah,I’ve always found the people of Bradford to be really friendly too.

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_-JUPITER-_@reddit

theyre the opposite, everyone in bradford is hostile and aggressive for no reason. They all glare at you, its not remotely friendly in the slightest.

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BlindTubeMares@reddit

That definitely wasn't my experience when I lived there. Most people I met were lovely. There was the odd nobhead but you get that with every town or city. I haven't been back in about 10 years so maybe it's changed.

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_-JUPITER-_@reddit

I think people are friendly if you blend in, but for me I was that southern girl who apparently "dresses like a hippie" and prefers intellectual conversations over banter. I get bullied and no one wants to speak to me which is the opposite of what I experienced when I lived in Suffolk.

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No_Cartoonist981@reddit

I think there’s still a lot of good, it’s just becoming more isolated pockets in my experience.

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No_Cartoonist981@reddit

I used to be a big believer in Bradford and did think we could bring Bradford back but in the last few years even I am on high alert when I have to go into the centre, get out before dark, stick to the middle of the roads etc. I’ve stopped counting the amount of very very ill people I pass on my short walk from transport to office on the days I do go in. It’s a sad state to see the city in but I’m not sure even the regeneration project can do much now. Reducing its size and making it safer seams a more sensible goal than trying to bring back a shopping district or food/entertainment venues to compete with Leeds etc.

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Simple_Tings@reddit

Just come live in Leeds mate.

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grimdwnsth@reddit

I’m originally from Leeds/Bradford borders - and even twenty / thirty years ago, that’s what most people did if they were relatively ambitious, image conscious. I visit both regularly these days when seeing family - the vibe is more stark than it ever was. I love Bradford (it is my place of birth), and I find its centre has a much grander, historic feel to it. You know you are in a place that once was very prosperous. Leeds however, just has a much more cosmopolitan, progressive, vibrant, energetic vibe in the here and now.

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No_Cartoonist981@reddit

I’m in a lovely little village on the outskirts of both thankfully!

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Simple_Tings@reddit

Glad to hear it. I worked in Bradford for 6 years commuting from Leeds. I used to tell people it was like time travelling, people were still wearing Adidas poppers in 2009.

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No_Cartoonist981@reddit

Well at least they were wearing clothes… not always the case now. I carry care packages when I go in but only a few trips ago they was a police cordon around one tent I had left one with only a few hours before. It’s heartbreaking, during the last kings visit they gave the homeless community pre paid £20 train vouchers the day before on the proviso they left for the day. To me that’s truly dystopian.

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Itzjoel777@reddit

After leaving Bradford I don’t look back. All the things you mentioned are true, but the people, crime, dangerous driving, and run down areas (most of it) let it down massively. Somehow BD postcodes go super duper far to places like Settle, and in the daytime the city centre isn’t awful but it is immensely dingy at night

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noodlesandstout@reddit

I actually miss living in Aldershot 😅 It's absolutely got some racism and some rougher sides, those can't be overlooked. However the food is fantastic, there's a cinema, a theatre, you're a stones throw away from some lovely walks (Caesers camp, Blackwater Valley path), and it's only improving with the recent efforts.

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R_Scoops@reddit

Leicester

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magnolia_lily@reddit

Halifax is cool as fuck. The Piece Hall is reminiscent of an Italian palazzo, great little restaurants and independent businesses and some of its surrounding villages are great days out - Hebden Bridge, Heptonstall, Sowerby Bridge etc. it used to be seen as Huddersfield’s little sister but there’s far more there now than its neighbour.

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Lumpy-Tart-3245@reddit

Lived in Birmingham from age 18-23 and I still miss it almost ten years later

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deformedfishface@reddit

London. It’s fucking awesome. The country mice hate it for some reason but it’s brilliant.

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Steamboat_Willey@reddit

London is seen as an expensive tourist trap full of rich bankers and politicians who leech all the wealth out of the rest of the country, but it has amazing museums, culture and food (if you can afford it) and I absolutely love the Underground.

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joelreddit633@reddit

Bit of a myth that you can't find good value food in London

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Crandom@reddit

London is undeniable good, the only reasons people don't like it is it is expensive (and for some people) busy.

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fivetenfiftyfold@reddit

After 15 years in London you can only get beaten so many times and keep saying “thank you sir may I have another?” before any positives to living in the city disappear. Couldn’t be happier to be leaving up north. London is dead. It wasn’t sustainable 15 years ago but at least you COULD eat very cheaply. Now a medium chips is £5 and rent is close to £3000 and any semblance of spare time to create art or enjoy life is gone.

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Sean_Paul_Sartre@reddit

Whitechapel

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boredsittingonthebus@reddit

I'm from Glasgow and I'm very proud of the city. I used to find it really insulting when people said it's a dump and it's full of junkies, but now I just appreciate that I live in a great place.

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onetimeuselong@reddit

Nah. It’s not full of junkies but man is it rough compared to Edinburgh. The last 500m of the train journey to Glasgow Central is all the warning you need.

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ColbysRevenge@reddit

Wouldn't that 500m just be in a tunnel if you were coming from Edinburgh

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HoverShark_@reddit

I lived in Glasgow for 5 years & loved it, food & music great, buildings in town are beautiful. Biggest thing holding it back imo is how dirty it is, so much more litter & just general muck on pavements & streets than other cities in Scotland

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CicadaSlight7603@reddit

I love Glasgow. Came up to Edinburgh for university but visited Glasgow a fair bit. Would happily have stayed. When I told people I was moving to Edinburgh and visiting Glasgow they all thought I would be walking into Trainspotting. Glasgow has areas of deprivation and you can feel it even in the city centre (more smoking, more obesity than its neighbour) but I have been always been treated with friendliness and the buildings and parks are beautiful. I like the tube and the university area is particularly nice.

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Repulsive-Rule130@reddit

Visited Glasgow a couple of years ago having spent a lot of time in Edinburgh and on the west coast (Ullapool etc). The vibes were good but the traffic was pretty crazy. Wall to wall cars in most of the centre

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Specialist_Act_9394@reddit

Can second this. I live in London but went to Glasgow on a stag do a couple of years ago. Absolutely class place. And the people are amazing.

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Initial_Chart_5151@reddit

Aye, all upbeat now til the stash runs out

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AmbitionSweaty9889@reddit

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Fun-Recipe2996@reddit

Southampton and Portsmouth are both fine at worst. They both have some nice areas and there's a lot of history in the area. Most of the negative stuff you hear if from people that grew up in the other city - Portsmouth people say Southampton is a shithole and vice versa. When you grow up outside the area it's honestly hilariously childish to witness.

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DangerousSeesaw@reddit

Liverpool. Moved here from the Midlands 6 years ago and a lot of my family said it was a rough place. They’ve all now said how it’s such a nice city now that they’ve actually visited it.

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relax26@reddit

Liverpool is a fantastic city. So clean and friendly. Loads to do there. I visit regularly.

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YuanT@reddit

Agree, but I’d say Liverpool had a pretty good rep these days? Don’t think I’ve met someone who lives there and doesn’t like it

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BuildingArmor@reddit

If the place is genuinely nice and just has a bad reputation, it's not going to be the people who live there that don't like it. When it comes to Liverpool its bad reputation is typically with people who haven't even been there.

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YuanT@reddit

Yeah that’s fair. I’ve still found it pretty rare for someone to have a bad impression of Liverpool more generally though. I think most people view it as a pretty nice place? Obviously you’ll have some people holding on to its rep from the 90s but I think that’s quite rare now?

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ProfCupcake@reddit

I think it's one of those outdated reputations that's still clinging on. Give it another decade or two and it might finally be free of it.

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

One thing that struck me was how clean the city centre is and free of rubbish

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Sirlacker@reddit

I like the city. It's the outskirts that get rough in my opinion.

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Various-Advice-9768@reddit

As I am now an old fart of 48, I started going to a club called cream in 1993. Liverpool was a shithole making my hometown of Sheffield and Nottingham / Manchester look posh compared. Now o find it generic govt, funded and soulless.

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TokyoJazzPanda@reddit

Congratulations on winning todays utterly pointless, ludicrously misinformed boomer locked in the body of a 48-year old award. It truly is much deserved 🏆 Please do continue selling partially defrosted sausages on the industrial estate from the boot of your Nissan Juke. Obviously it's the 1.6 141bhp model, that you never forget to inform or remind anyone within a 6ft radius.

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Various-Advice-9768@reddit

You are an odious little count x

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Dans77b@reddit

Thats nonsense. Liverpool has loads of interesting culture.

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SparklePenguin24@reddit

I love Liverpool. I visited my cousin at university there in 2004 and we did all of the touristy stuff with his Mum and best friend. I went back a few times after that.

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Successful_Fan1300@reddit

The first time I ever visited Liverpool, I had the view of it was a shithole, when I got off that train, I was stunned. I quickly fell in Love. I love scousers, I love the history, I love the buildings. It's also the only place that I truly felt safe in. Been back loads of times and I've always said to my family, if I wver get the chance to move to Liverpool, I would be there in a heartbeat. No questions asked. I've not been for just over 2 years, as it was too far to travel with my son, but now he's getting to the age where he can sit and travel for longer without getting bored or restless, I will be soon showing him around my second home (as I call it).

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cmac9900@reddit

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Brizzledude65@reddit

Weston Super Mare is generally regarded as a shithole. A fair bit of it is, but it has a lot of lovely parts too and overall is a pretty decent seaside town. (Source: a few mates moved there having been priced out of Bristol, so I’ve got to know it better and revised my view of the place).

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No-Shine-3612@reddit

Grew up there but never really thought it a shithole, it suffers the same as any other seaside town, especially with regard to opportunities but there are far worse seaside towns. All the same, look at most of the people who have recently moved and said they love living there. Many are just using it as a commuter town to escape market prices in more desirable places.

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jupiterspringsteen@reddit

Not sure about this one

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Embarrassed_Put_7892@reddit

We used to call it Weston super mud and I absolutely loved it. I also used to love brean leisure park just around the bay. I had hours of fun on the trampolines and in the ticket arcade. I was a simple kid.

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Sophyska@reddit

As someone who grew up in a double county locked place and about as centrally inland as you can get I honestly think as a seaside place it’s not terrible! Ok it’s more mudside than seaside but for a beach day, some penny pushers and a bag of chips is not too shabby

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Sasarai@reddit

Northamptonshire?

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Repulsive-Note-112@reddit

As a resident i agree, there is deprivation in parts. but I love it

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mand71@reddit

I'm not really that familiar with Weston (even though my FIL lives there); which are the deprived areas?

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Repulsive-Note-112@reddit

Most notably the Bournville estate (plus parts or Worle), a lot of social housing there and there used to be nothing for young people to do. Weston was also treated as a rehab dumping ground by cities. There have however been major attempts to move past that; new facilities, stopping the growth of rehab clinics as dumping grounds from other councils. It's not perfect of course but there is a sense of community spirit growing. Plenty of work still to do, especially on youth facilities but there are far worse places in the UK.

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truthbomn@reddit

There's a reason Banksy opened Dismaland there.

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_-JUPITER-_@reddit

the pdf file who groomed me was from that town 🤮

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Grouchy_Ground_1916@reddit

Aye, a few years back it was absolutely soaking in cheap drugs. It's cleaned up some since then

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abaday789@reddit

Used to live there for about 6 years. It's alright nothing special though more interested than Burnham. Worst is the traffic I find. As soon as the M5 snarled up you were stuffed as there's only really 3 'main' routes out of the town. So all the other ways out of Weston got gridlocked too.

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SpitefulHammer@reddit

I went there last summer and it was a complete shit hole. Also infested with Ladybirds.

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randomaccess24@reddit

The ladybirds was a one-off thing, when I was visiting my parents last year they were fuckin’ everywhere for some reason but it’s not usually a ladybird holiday destination!

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randomaccess24@reddit

I was looking for the Weston shout out here, as someone who grew up there I thought I must get out but I’m increasingly appreciating its strong points when I come back to visit

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Duementon@reddit

its grim as a seaside destination, water is brown and dangerous sinking sand

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Up-the_orient1979@reddit

Middlesbrough. People associate the area with the town centre. But 15 mins out and you are on the North Yorkshire Moors, plus loads of little towns, villages around

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Bridge_Outrageous@reddit

But let’s be honest Middlesbrough as a town deserves its bed reputation. The area around it is mostly wonderful, but boro itself…

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morpheus_dreams@reddit

Theres a lot of bad in boro due to the ridiculous amount of deprivation on the area. However there's also a fair few nice areas too in boro itself.

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Up-the_orient1979@reddit

Totally agree and I guess that's what the question asked but yeah it's a bit rough

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Bossman_Mike@reddit

Belfast. Outside of working hours the city centre is buzzing, great vibe, friendly people, cheap booze. But what really confused me was how the city just seemed _dead_ during the working day. You normally see people wandering streets, catching buses, shopping etc., but Belfast just didn't have that. It was deserted, became rammed at lunchtime, was deserted again, then became rammed at rush hour and the evening.

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Glad-Struggle-4056@reddit

Belfast died a death from COVID though. Pints are now more expensive than Dublin/London. Streets are full of thugs

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FitSolution2882@reddit

>Pints are now more expensive than Dublin I didn't think that was possible!

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

Interesting. I’ve not been since pre covid and it was lovely then

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sthmanneh@reddit

Moss side in Manchester. Built itself a reputation between the 80's and early 2000's. What's left now is just community there that have lived through it all and everyone is quite friendly.

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ChelseaMourning@reddit

I’m originally from Oldham and it does get a lot of bad press for being deprived, post industrial with lots of racial tension etc. That’s certainly true of the more urban areas, but the rural side of town is beautiful. Saddleworth, Diggle, Dovestones. It’s a really beautiful landscape. https://preview.redd.it/0yfql27ae75h1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea647ab83d51feb303c597d825c8eea4e17c872b

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Beee52@reddit

Same here, and I agree - it's amazing how short a distance you have to go to be in some truly stunning countryside. Rochdale is similar where, sure, there are some very run down and bleak parts, but there's also some really lovely areas. I've worked in south Manchester for years, and it's amazing how many people even that close think these towns are basically warzones! One work friend visited us recently and was like "huh, it's actually really nice here"

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isaytruisms@reddit

Swindon. I've spent twenty years taking the piss out of it, but the town centre is actually pretty nice. Has a couple of lovely pubs with craft beer and board games.

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matthewsaaan@reddit

I grew up there and it was really solid place to be at a teenager before the 2008 financial crash, I don't think the town centre (or many other town centres) really recovered. The Outlet village is still pretty excellent for clothes shoppoing and I love the steam museum. I think Swindon is the perfect microcosm of the broader UK - it's not actually shit but, thanks to the natural wry cynicism of the British people, Swindonians act like Swindon is an actually dump. It's only real crime is being chroinically average.

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JansonHawke@reddit

Old Town, if you can get up the hill, is rather lovely.

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Soukchai2012@reddit

I lived there in the 90’s - it was the worst place I’ve ever stayed. But now they have board games you say?

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izzyrascal1994@reddit

I live in Swansea - it's our pretty shitty city. It's been branded as the city of mushes, chav's & junkies, which it is. But they're usually sound and friendly believe it or not, it's somewhere you'll feel safe. The city is on the rise, with developments to various areas. Food scene is surprisingly good for a small city. Some interesting towns and villages such as the Mumbles, Ystradgynlais, Uplands. It's a city painted in industrial history, and was home and inspiration of Dylan Thomas. But in terms of being a hub for anyone who loves nature, I'm not sure it can be beaten. Our beaches on the Gower are beautiful, and it's only a short drive to the Brecon Beacons and Waterfall Country. Other areas such as Pembrokeshire & Vale of Glamorgan within a stones throw too. I've tried living elsewhere, but something always brings me home!

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Questjon@reddit

Skegness get's a bad rap but the beaches are really clean and while the cold sea wind isn't everyone's cup of tea when the rest of the country is looking at 30°C it feels like a perfect 23°C at Skeg.

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djw97_@reddit

I moved from Manchester to Cleethorpes 8 years ago and never looked back. Yes the place needs a lot of investment, but has so much potential if utilised correctly.

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Gordy748@reddit

Blackpool! It’s got a reputation for being a total war zone but it’s nowhere near as shit as that. More like a Mexican border town.

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stellfox-x@reddit

Lincolnshire imo, some really ropey areas but a fab county with a city to rival York or Chester and as beautiful coastline as you will find.

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abitofasitdown@reddit

Lincoln was dying on its arse, until the University came. It's doing really well now. And in my view it's much, much nicer than York for a visit.

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djw97_@reddit

Hard agree, love Lincoln!

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Phil_Mike-Huntin@reddit

Was born in Spalding and lived there and Pinchbeck til I was 10, then moved up to Aberdeen due to parents job, I don't think I'll ever manage to repay them

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story_to_tell@reddit

Great Yarmouth. Run down seaside down but got some amazing pubs, great beach front, things to do and some really interesting quirky characters. Some really talented artists live around there too. It suffers in the winter but still has somewhat charm

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Jolly-Avocado0@reddit

Grew up there, glad I left. It does seem much more run down than when I was a kid.

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phatboi23@reddit

i went yonks back when i was about 17... used to inline skate from one end of the front to the indoor skatepark (don't think it exists anymore) chill there all day as it was like £6 for the day. was awkward walking back when i lost a wheel as that day i didn't put my trainers in my bag, so i scooted back on 1 foot pushing myself along with a skate on 1 foot and my socked foot pushing me along haha

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Imperfect_Complaint@reddit

Southampton’s reputation is currently awful for a number of reasons. We have an IKEA though, so… just saying.

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Constant-Estate3065@reddit

It also has some of the biggest central parks, and some of the best preserved city walls in the country. Internationally renowned art galleries and West End standard theatres, vibrant music scene, a healthy shopping district, boat shows, music festivals, great museums, restaurant quarters, marinas, a fascinating history, and easy access to two national parks. I’ve always thought it deserves a much better reputation.

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Embarrassed_Put_7892@reddit

Plymouth. It’s a cool city and so near so much lovely stuff. You have beaches, moors and woods!

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MissingBothCufflinks@reddit

Peckham is wonderful

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Jeffuk88@reddit

I like Blackpool. Fight me.

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bowak@reddit

Best thing about Blackpool is it makes a great midpoint for a bike ride. Can get genuinely great fish & chips from The Cottage, chill by the sea to let it settle, then the prevailing winds help with getting back out of there as quickly as possible!

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NoAsk7090@reddit

Are you by chance a young farmer

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lovesorangesoda636@reddit

Dundee. Like every city under the sun, it has problems with poverty etc. But it also has a thriving arts scene, excellent museums, nice restaurants, and is a great place to raise a family. You've also got extremely easy access to the countryside, the highlands, and all the other major cities in Scotland.

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Odd-Paramedic-3826@reddit

birmingham is no different than any of the other industrial cities. grim bits, nice bits, the usual facilities. it's really no different than manchester, liverpool, leeds, etc.

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bowak@reddit

Birmingham feels too me like Manchester of about 20 years ago. Like it's just getting into the swing of de-grimming the centre. Caveat that I've only been twice in the last few years so won't have seen all of it, but it didn't tempt me into going back. And to be fair while I love Manchester there's plenty of shit bits there too.

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

There seems more green city centre wise in both Manc and Liverpool but they also feel a lot safer. Birmingham has a horrible air of menace and as a woman I don’t feel safe

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Thekokza@reddit

Birmingham is quite unique in how third-world it feels. London is more diverse on paper but brum is uniquely diabolical.

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DesignerProfession77@reddit

Agree. Birmingham is not cosmopolitan at all

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NoAsk7090@reddit

Birmingham looks like you’re looking at the back of all the buildings it’s ugly as

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MacViller@reddit

Yep. First time I went to Leeds and Manchester I just thought "reminds me of Brum".

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InTheDarkness82@reddit

Luton. Joking.

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mofonyx@reddit

Preston. The countryside and Ribble Valley is beautiful. An hour away from the Lakes and an hour away from Manchester.

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bowak@reddit

Preston's got 2 superpowers for this type of thread. It's kind of near everywhere in the north west, and a huge number of green spaces. Not just the big parks which are much nicer than a lot of people would expect, but there are a lot of connecting bits of green/woodland paths too all over the place so you can walk between a lot of areas with a good chunk of the route not being on streets if you want, plus there are a lot of little parks and even micro parks nearly everywhere too. It's the sort of thing that can be easily missed if you just pass through on the main roads but they really help make it a nice enough place to live.

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hdhxuxufxufufiffif@reddit

I got stuck there between trains the other year due to a cancellation and walked ten minutes into the pedestrianised area and found a nice little Victorian pub called the Black Horse with an open fire, cask ale and pork pies. I should go back, only forty minutes or so from Manchester seems like a nice way to pass a rainy afternoon.

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bowak@reddit

I've travelled between Preston and Manchester so many times over the years whilst living in both multiple times that the train almost feels like it takes 0 time. That means that the Black Horse kind of feels like it's really only about half a mile from Grand Central & The Salisbury.

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The_Flax@reddit

Went to uni there and couldn't agree more. Some of the nicest city parks I've seen anywhere, and used to love the walking/cycle paths to the nearby towns

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KonkeyDongPrime@reddit

There’s a mad little Japanese restaurant near the station that is wicked. Also a decent BMX track and team.

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phatboi23@reddit

> There’s a mad little Japanese restaurant near the station that is wicked. Also a decent BMX track and team. i need info for both haha

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dogshitchantal@reddit

The restaurant is called Meiz, their sushi is fantastic! They also do lunch deals

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phatboi23@reddit

thanks mate, i'll let him know :D

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Billcommaagain@reddit

Lived there for uni 2016-2020, still visit my friend there and it’s honestly seems like it’s done so well for itself in that time! I’m really pleased, very much enjoyed my time there

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Groundbreaking_Dare4@reddit

Also Avenham park, a 5 minute walk from the train station. One of the finest parks in the land.

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LukeyLad@reddit

Ribble valleys mint. Trying drag the Mrs away from Bolton

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younevershouldnt@reddit

The town itself is decent enough too. And it has Wallace and Gromit now

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Constant-Estate3065@reddit

Whenever I’m in Southampton on a beautiful sunny day I always think it has such a nice relaxed vibe that most UK cities lack. Yes it’s an ugly city overall, but it does have a lot of parks and trees, big squares, broad streets, marinas, and a fascinating old town. The way people talk about the place you’d think it was Chernobyl.

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davestanleylfc@reddit

Being from Liverpools mad - second you say where your from people who have never been here instantly go “woah better watch my wallet” and you get contestant abuse for it being a shithole But that’s changing because anyone who has been loves it Half my mates are people who have moved from all over the country and stayed it’s got a young population and a thriving resteraunt and pub scene, I travel for work allot and I am startled by how half the country is empty on weeknights, Liverpools thriving all the time Also it’s safe, lived here my whole life never been victim of a crime, jobs are good everyone I know earns above the national income and standard of living is great and it’s still relatively cheap to buy housing Not a generation ago in the 80s we lost 100,000 people in a year due to people moving away but now it’s a Georgia thriving city

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disregardmeok@reddit

All of these answers pose a separate question - if nearly everywhere you could care to mention is much better than it used to be, then why is everyone in this country convinced that everything is shit?

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ThreeLionsOnMyShirt@reddit

I do think this thread shows that the concept of any town or city being a "shithole" is thrown around far too easily by small-minded people Yes some places are nicer than others, but there wouldn't be tens or hundreds of thousands of people living somewhere that had nothing going for it. If you know how to enjoy life then I'm sure you'll find good things in most places in the UK (and beyond)

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Unlikely_Plane_5050@reddit

This is a bit sheltered and naive. A lot of places in the UK are shit and no one would live there if they had the choice. It's not a free market where someone can just go to Chelsea if they don't like Redcar. They live there because it is cheap and they are poor.

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UuusernameWith4Us@reddit

I can't find a comment in this thread yet from anyone saying they like Slough. Also that person saying they like Luton is a liar.

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colei_canis@reddit

Luton at least has the common decency to provide a plethora of ways to leave.

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roxieh@reddit

Eh, sometimes people live somehwere because it's cheap, and it's cheap because it's undesirable, rough, local services aren't great, there's crime etc.

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ThankGod4Darwin69@reddit

Milton Keynes

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Moron-with-a-drill@reddit

Just pretty-much throw a dart at a map of the UK. You could be anywhere and the locals of an area will say "Ooh you want to watch yourself there" in regards to somewhere a mile away. Then you get there and their locals say "Ooh you were lucky to leave there" about the place you just left.

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New_Asparagus817@reddit

Plymouth! Could practically be the med on some of the hotter days.

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Inner_Intention5008@reddit

Glasgow !

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Known-Expression-342@reddit

Liverpool

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MrTurleWrangler@reddit

Nottingham always gets a bad rep but its a lot better than it used to be on the outskirts, and the city centre is great. Fantastic independent bar scene and food scene is taking off lately. There's also so much history there!

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Cool_Doubt2152@reddit

Agree! Restaurants and pubs are always rammed, people say the high street is dead haven’t walked down Clumber Street and through Vic centre on a Saturday (even a Friday it’s busy). If you live South of the river you’ve got a shit ton of sport on your doorstep and a nice walk to it along the river

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Helpful-Mongoose-705@reddit

Essex has beautiful countryside

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Bossman_Mike@reddit

It's an enormous county and the stereotypical Deano, TOWIE, Turkey Teeth, pink Range Rover stuff is more Brentwood and inside the M25. You will not see any of that on Mersea Island or in Colchester.

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PeterG92@reddit

It's incredibly frustrating as an Essexonian that it gets brought up whenever you mention you are from there or as a general part of a conversation. Essex is nothing like the people we see in TOWIE.

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JansonHawke@reddit

There are two Essexes: Estuary Essex and Shire Essex and they are _not_ the same.

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fandomnightmare@reddit

A lot of the new towns are surprised fun to visit, and the Garden Cities are lovely

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AltruisticBread6940@reddit

Rural Essex

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Sad_Pie_3862@reddit

Rural Essex is a gem, especially north Essex around the Stour.

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rawcane@reddit

Streatham has some rough bits but also some really nice bits. Killieser Avenue, Polworth Road and the far side of the common are all some of the nicest streets/houses in London but adjacent to some of the grimmest sections of high street anywhere

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Nosey2parker@reddit

Let’s not be snobs about places where others live.

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berkleysquare@reddit

Croydon, just avoid eye contact with the natives as you'll get 'What are you lookin' at you c*nt'

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thefateof0phelia@reddit

I went to Margate last year and thought it was a nice little town, lots of boutique shops and a beach, defo enjoyed.

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nich01as123@reddit

Essex - if you avoid the faragey bits, there is amazing and beautiful countryside, and lots of lovely towns. Not everyone is TOWIE-esque.

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SomaSaiba@reddit

London

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Neither_Set_3048@reddit

London

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Fair-Lengthiness-212@reddit

Leicester. Recently visited and was pleasantly surprised how buzzing the city centre was and the extent of food options.

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theglamgardener@reddit

I really liked Leicester when I visited, its lovely! So many nice bars, cafes, restaurants, etc. Very underrated city.

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AWingedVictory1@reddit

Stockton on tees. Nice people, moorland,coast,Yarm, close to Newcastle and Leeds,

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Snoo_75235@reddit

Hyson green /forest fields in nottingham

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SingleSpeedEast@reddit

Toxteth, Brixton & Moss Side. All areas well worth a visit. Ive lived in two of those areas & was warned off them by people with low key racist viewpoints.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

I find London quite scary but I never feel unsafe in Brixton. Helps to know people too I think

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Bossman_Mike@reddit

I hear Brixton is fine, so long as you're not deliberately looking for trouble and aren't directly involved in the road life.

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

Yeah it’s changed from when I was a kid when it was a bit sketchy

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PsychologicalPea1412@reddit

Portsmouth. I am proud of my city and I absolutely love it here. Southsea and Old Portsmouth is very beautiful in the summer.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

I go shopping in Portsmouth often and town centre gives me the fear every time. Southsea however is lovely

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MASSIVEGLOCK@reddit

Commercial road has died a death unfortunately. Its a shame as when i was younger it was a bustling shopping area. Sign of the times with all the traditional city shopping centres being gutted. Southsea is lovely and I thought was getting better and better but last time I went to Portsmouth Albert road seems to be dying a bit of a death.

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justinnocentmen@reddit

Yes I remember going with my Nanna all the time and there was so much to do! Debenhams looks vile and been like that for years. There always seems to be someone who looks like they’re gonna you lol. Haven’t been out in Albert road for years so that’s a shame to hear! People just cannot afford anything these days unfortunately so everything ends up closing

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noradosmith@reddit

I went to university in Southsea. I always loved Albert Road.

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PeterG92@reddit

It's also an Island. Which is my fun fact whenever someone mentions Portsmouth

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NoAsk7090@reddit

Portsmouth is an absolute SHITHOLE 😂

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theeclecticwriter@reddit

People call Aberdeen a depressing hellhole but it has a really nice beach esplanade (when it's not chucking it down) and great parks and hospitality scene. Really nice place for families to live, and has affordable rents compared to much of the UK Source: I lived there for 6 years

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DoricEmpire@reddit

A lot of the people who shit on Aberdeen tend to be from the central belt, especially Glasweigans who, being hyper chatty and extroverted, can’t get their head round the NE super reserved and cautious nature. Ironic as they have always been happy to take Aberdeens money - it’s like taking belongings from someone then mocking them for not owning said belongings. A lot of Aberdeens problems could be mitigated if it didn’t constantly sit at the bottom of Scottish government funding tables.

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ac0rn5@reddit

> it has a really nice beach esplanade It does, but the sea is absolutely freezing all year round.

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Additional_Flight522@reddit

Tower Hamlets

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EvenAlternative7963@reddit

I mean CW is technically tower hamlets so…I like Vicky park as well and bow is ok

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NoAsk7090@reddit

Tower Hamlets can barely sustain life let alone be nice

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splizzyhoestar@reddit

can you elaborate a little? im curious

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ged1916@reddit

We were down in melton Mowbray last month for a few days, went to Nottingham for a day. Very surprised how nice the city centre was. Had a great buzz about it 👌

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Physical-Bear2156@reddit

Hull. I lived there for a decade (in the Avenues) and it was a great place to be. It gets a lot of stick, mostly from people who'd struggle to point to it on a map. Great place with nice people (except for a few on Bransholme).

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Puzzleheaded_Echo372@reddit

My uncle lived there (also on the Avenues) for years and going to stay with him were my happiest childhood memories!

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Technical_Front_8046@reddit

I don’t know. I find this with a lot of places. Take Mansfield as an example. All the locals say “it’s a shithole” yet in reality it’s a decent sized town with plenty of amenities and some pretty amazing walks near by like Sherwood Forest. I’ve moved around a lot over the years and anywhere I go the locals all say the same thing “it’s a shit hole round here” but in reality, they’ve never seen what I would describe as a shithole. Which is far worse than that area.

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Extra-Sound-1714@reddit

The trouble with Mansfield is who lives there. It's a far right enclave.

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Extra-Sound-1714@reddit

Coventry. Brilliant quirky places, I love Coventry.

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sweetfoolsss@reddit

milton keynes! people clown it but it’s actually a cute lil place lol, lots of green spaces and good places to eat

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_-JUPITER-_@reddit

its the most soulless place ever, nothing to like about it.

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Extra-Sound-1714@reddit

There is a surprising amount of hidden gems

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ScaryButt@reddit

MK is great! The greenery everywhere was my favourite thing, you're never far from a park and even all the roads are lined with big strips of trees. Great cycling links too.

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Similar-Weather-8940@reddit

Wick.

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TyphoidMurphy@reddit

Welsh Valleys.

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Adorable_Lime_1650@reddit

Truro , Cornwall is an actually a nice place

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hallouminati_pie@reddit

I really liked Ilfracombe when I went there. Run down in parts but really lovely coastal setting. https://preview.redd.it/1e0qepigi55h1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15df2815fca72c8fc2cdf4a2e425f9c2feb736c4

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Appropriate_Emu_6930@reddit

The areas full of bedsits are creepy as fuck though. It’s such a shame, it got flooded with scum about 30 years ago due to a dodgy local council deal. They bought heroin with them. It’s never recovered.

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Obvious-Maximum-8999@reddit

Sunderland. Amazing people, beaches and low cost of living. Easy access to mainline rail, an international airport, Scotland and the lake district.

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Appropriate_Emu_6930@reddit

Newquay. It’s a place of two half’s. The centre is a dump but there is beauty too

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SHR1992@reddit

Glasgow

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BlaMenck@reddit

Glasgow

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Fun_Budget7641@reddit

I’m from Dundee,me and my sister went to a gig in Glasgow,went to the spoons on sauchihall street,teatime,2 groups of lads started fighting,taking their shirts off and fighting with pool cues whole family’s crying,never again!😳

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anyway_you_want@reddit

I havent ever had the fear walking in Glasgow, even at night. Does shit go down? Of course, but by and large, I feel like Glasgow looks after her people.

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Icantdoitidk@reddit

99.9999999% of the time trouble will only find you if you go looking for it. It's very much a "keep your head down and you'll be fine" sort of place.

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Ok_Astronaut_3235@reddit

Everyone local used to tell me Angus Steakhouse but obviously it’s the best!

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3Grapes4Me@reddit

Glasgow is drastically under rated. Amazing architecture, green spaces, people, loads to do, not an expensive city, easy to get about, loads of work.

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thisiswar007@reddit

Liverpool

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drivingagermanwhip@reddit

I grew up in Stoke on Trent. Has lots of great, well kept parks and it's easy to get out to the peak district. The pottery attractions are decent, too. Not going to pretend it's intredible but it's certainly not the worst place I've lived in the UK.

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porcupineporridge@reddit

I was born there and grew up not a million miles away. I never found much that redeemed the place. It feels tired and forgotten with little purpose since industry left. It seems to have struggled more than other places to redefine itself and sadly, the politics are increasingly ugly. As you say, pottery heritage is brilliant though and Peak District is too often overlooked.

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Frankthehamster@reddit

Ey up duck

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TommyDickFingers85@reddit

Birmingham city centre isn't the grey, concrete shit hole I was led to believe, there's so many old, beautiful buildings

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ApprehensiveList6306@reddit

Ipswich, locals hate it but it’s great place to live in nicer areas. Moved here from much “posher” places and enjoying it way more,

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SergeiGo99@reddit

Ipswich

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Bossman_Mike@reddit

I lived there for a good while. It felt like a sine wave - when I first arrived it was really good, then it got properly shit, then it improved again.

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Sguigg@reddit

> There are some unbelievably huge and beautiful houses for the same price as a crummy terrace in East London, but there aren't the jobs to support the price tag so I have no idea who owns those. I grew up there, they're owned by people with city jobs who either work remote or deal with a 90 minute commute. It was the same in the 00s but more achievable now with flexible working. It's that or people who do jobs that are decently paid everywhere but allow you more there, like accountants, dentists, doctors back in the day.

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SergeiGo99@reddit

I’d also give it a 7/10 to be honest. And I agree that it’s not as bad as people say/think despite having some rough bits.

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DiamondL0st@reddit

Maybe not as bad as is often made out, but I still wouldn't say it's nice.

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PlatformFeeling8451@reddit

I was very impressed by the waterfront area, not quite as impressed by the pub opposite the station that was raided by armed police while I was having a quick pint before my train.

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Ill_Information_2076@reddit

Croydon, east Croydon specifically

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Lopsided_Soup_3533@reddit

Newport, Gwent Everyone likes to shit on Newport cos we are stuck between Cardiff and Bristol. Yes it has issues but mostly lovely people and I like living here a lot. But if anyone from Bristol asks its a sithole and you dont wanna live here cos rents are too expensive in Bristol. The M4 in rush hour is not a fun time

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hidingbehindyoursofa@reddit

Aright Clart?

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AdDisastrous6356@reddit

Hull

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ApprehensiveDepth439@reddit

ayrshire in scotland, alot of deindustrialised villages true, but you are within 30 mins of gorgeous scottish scenery without the crowdedness from the highland tax

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Steamboat_Willey@reddit

Kilmarnock certainly has a reputation for being rough, but it has Dean Castle, the Dick Institute and is a great place for train spotting.

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Discopants180@reddit

Blackpool! Always top of the shitlists on here but I love it.

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ice_planet_x@reddit

one of the places I'm most looking forward to visiting 😊

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phatboi23@reddit

for a night out it's mega. honestly it gets a worse rep than it should.

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ice_planet_x@reddit

100% also pleasure beach has some very unique original rides

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superslomotion@reddit

Luton.... Lol jk

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MintBerryFondue@reddit

Telford. It's not run down. It has a good mix of shops/malls, green space, connectivity to Wales and affordable housing compared to every other town I had lived in. Honestly if I had a job near to Telford. I could see myself living there.

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FlatCapNorthumbrian@reddit

Sunderland’s not too bad in places, Roker can be nice at the beach.

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No-Glove4562@reddit

Sunderland probably.

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No_Yoghurt_5131@reddit

Croydon. The southern parts of the borough are very nice, as are parts like Shirley, Addiscombe and Upper Norwood. It's really the town centre, West Croydon and Thornton Heath that drag it's reputation down. Also on the whole, the borough is nowhere near as bad as other parts of inner city london.

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abitofasitdown@reddit

I was really surprised by Purley, which is one of the poshest areas I've been to. Really beautiful houses on the edge of the countryside, which is not what I imagined from Croydon at all.

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Dave-the-Flamingo@reddit

Purely has the same wealth as Richmond!! I think because lithe highstreet is on a busy road this lets the area down in terms of quiet and calm but it is not a poor area.

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tetartoid@reddit

Yeah, that area is really beautiful. I visited Coulsdon the other day and was shocked to find out I was in Croydon. Lots of beautiful large houses, very leafy, with a rural feel, nice hills and beautiful views. I would move there...if I could afford it!

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rtrance@reddit

Belfast

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abitofasitdown@reddit

Anytime Jaywick is mentioned, it's in the context of "most deprived bit of Britain", but it's got a massive holiday park next to it, and the beach is lovely, and the Jaywick teenagers and twentysomethings who work in the holiday park are brilliant. (On the other hand, I've never lived there.)

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Jamical70@reddit

I had a great time getting my foot bandaged after treading on a crushed beer can that someone burried in the sand but that was years ago. It could be a great holiday destination but I fear nothing short of a cruise missile would improve the place.

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abitofasitdown@reddit

For a long time it was the subject of a "neglect it until people move and we can bulldoze it" policy, influenced not just by the deprivation and crime, but also by the considerable flood risk, but that's recently been somewhat reversed and there is now a regeneration project, with most of the money going on flood defences.

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phatboi23@reddit

> For a long time it was the subject of a "neglect it until people move and we can bulldoze it" policy, like a lot of seaside towns tbf... some have had decent regeneration projects. hell even Rhyl is in the middle of one from what i remember. doesn't help councils would sent people to these towns as cheap accommodation making things MUCH worse.

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callisstaa@reddit

Whitley Bay is an amazing success story tbf. Up until the 00s it was seen as a depraved party town full of strip clubs etc for stag/hen dos. During the 00s it was on its arse, all the clubs and hotels closed down, drugs were rife, it was a proper shithole. After all the regeneration and development it is a really nice town and the house prices reflect that.

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phatboi23@reddit

about a 4 hour drive there and back, won't be a there and back job even driving lol be a good weekend from a quick google :)

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Jamical70@reddit

To be fair it really is a nice beach.

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abitofasitdown@reddit

And it's got Martello Towers! I like the walk along the beach going away from Clacton, where the beach eventually turns into the Essex marshes. It's so beautiful.

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AutisticElephant1999@reddit

Birmingham

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md3372@reddit

Some parts of Croydon are actually great

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BigBadVern@reddit

Bedford. Stacked with restaurants, from the Italian and Indian communities. A nice riverside, with lovely gardens. 2nd biggest street festival after Notting Hill

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Agile-Lengthiness-75@reddit

Good ole Milton Keynes it gets a lot of forced hate but is a great mixture between the countryside and city. Excellent Red way routes making traffic flow, cycle walking and e-scooter routes seamless and pedestrians not having to interface and share roads with cars.

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Common_Man7669@reddit

Came to say Hull but was beaten to it. Remember being pleasantly surprised the first time I went there to watch Fulham away at Hull City. Think my unconscious ignorance had me expecting it to be a terrible place for some reason. Looking forward to visiting again next season!

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HotPotatoWithCheese@reddit

Birmingham has a lot of fantastic pubs and music venues, and it also has the second best food scene in the country behind London. It gets way more shit than it deserves.

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Most-Number5867@reddit

Liverpool

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gregd303@reddit

Jaywick has a great stretch of beach

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Resipsa100@reddit

Please never forget Amy She was a pioneering British pilot who became famous in 1930 when she flew solo from England to Australia. She was born in Kingston upon Hull in 1903 and remained closely associated with the city throughout her life. Hull is very proud of her. The city has: * A statue of Amy Johnson. * Streets and buildings named after her. * Exhibitions and memorials celebrating her achievements. So yes, Amy Johnson certainly had strong ties to Hull. It was her hometown and remains one of the places most closely connected with her legacy. ✈️ Sadly, she died in 1941 during the Second World War after her aircraft came down in the Thames Estuary while she was serving with the Air Transport Auxiliary. Her disappearance remains the subject of much discussion and speculation.

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Terrible_Birthday107@reddit

Hastings/St Lens is mint. Yes the town centre but everything else makes up for it. And I adore Liverpool!

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fuckedsince1991@reddit

I’m from Manchester n use to work there a lot. Nights out there are great. Most of the scouces are sound as fuck. But yeah all round great city.

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DangerousSeesaw@reddit

Don’t get me wrong, there’s areas that I avoid, like with most cities, but the majority of scousers I’ve met have been so friendly and will happily start a conversation with anyone. From the other cities that I’ve lived in or visited, Liverpool has been by far the most welcoming.

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CarefulHomework8110@reddit

Bradford is quirky and fabulous

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New-Resident3385@reddit

From my experience milton keynes. Its not the nicest city but it is far from what it is made out to be.

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TapWaterDev@reddit

Wales

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OkKoala3241@reddit

Newcastle

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pigeon_in_a_suit@reddit

Stoke! Just kidding, it’s as shit as everyone makes out.

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one_pint@reddit

Milton Keynes Lots of roundabouts... yes.... Loads of greenspace, parks and lakes. Fantastic amenities and entertainment for families. Exceptionally easy to get around. Built in cycle lane network in the redways. Lots of work and employment opportunities. All its lacking is a proper university and the alternative nightlife that brings with it.

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weregonnamakit@reddit

Luton

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wildrift91@reddit

Not a serious comment 🤣

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testdasi@reddit

I just snorted spaghetti seeing your comment. 😃

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Sophyska@reddit

It has good people there who are trying to make something good of it. I walked down high town for the first time recently in a good 15 years and couldn’t believe how much life there was in the evening. Busy pubs (special mention to the bricklayers arms!), restaurants, cafes, corner shops, all sorts. Carnival just happened - 50 years of it!! The Mela is beautiful when it happens. At one point Luton Sixth Form was one of the highest on the league tables. The football team have seen great growth and have a shiny new stadium coming. It has some beautiful parks and things like wardown museum and stockwood discovery centre. An international aquatic/diving centre. Local bands and artists and performers and comedians who are trying. Incredible food and buzzing late night cafe scenes. Are parts of it unbelievably upsettingly a shit hole? 100%. It’s hard to see as someone who has the rose tinted glasses of a childhood spent there. But it’s like any other town that was built on industry that got undercut and stripped away only to have it replaced by unskilled underpaid agency fuelled jobs. It’s struggling but people are really trying to make something good there.

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pointlesstips@reddit

Surroundings of Luton are absolutely stunning. Town centre suffers from evrry town centre in the UK that was malled-up in the seventees, but it is absolutely the best place to have the most diverse excellent quality world cuisine take outs and order ins. And I do mean authentic world cuisines, not just 5 curry places and 3 kebab shops. Also, some of the best chicken I've had anywhere.

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NewtRider@reddit

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wildrift91@reddit

Lincoln

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Miserable_Copy2789@reddit

The North

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Liverpoolbtc@reddit

I really like Liverpool and Nottingham

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Trick-Station8742@reddit

Nottingham ain't great. Lived there a few years about 16 years ago. Go back to see in laws every 3 months now I live in Leeds. Nowt has changed. No investment in city centre.

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Odd_Championship7286@reddit

Welsh valleys. It’s a bit run down and has been neglected for decades but the scenery is beautiful and the communities are strong. Very welcoming.

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Trick-Station8742@reddit

Drive from Leeds to Swansea a month ago. Actually fucking stunning how beautiful your country is.

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Upper-Eggplant2679@reddit

Prison

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VodkaMargarine@reddit

It's actually spelled Preston but it's an easy mistake to make

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ThatFilthyMonkey@reddit

Not doxing myself but I live in an area that used to have an awful reputation, I tell people where I live and they do a sharp intake of breath. But my street is full of young families and retirees and house prices have almost doubled in the last ten years so guess I was lucky to catch the first gentrification wave. It’s quiet, nice neighbours, is convenient for shops and transport to city centre and neighbouring city, no notes.

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Equivalent_Half883@reddit

Dingwall. Can confirm it does exist 😉

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YorkshireMary@reddit

Bradford

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floatinginmyroom@reddit

I genuinely loved living in Rotherham. Yes it was a bit rough with a pretty high level of crime. But the people were the nicest I've ever lived near Ive often likened it to this: Where I live now (much "nicer" area) you've got far less chance of being robbed, but if you were robbed, nobody would stop to help you In Rotherham, you're far more likely to be robbed, but if that happened you'd have ten people rallying to help you within minutes

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FightingApe@reddit

Slough.

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cynical-mage@reddit

Erm...well, I suppose if you ignore the bin collection and fly tipping epidemic, the rodent population booming out of control, sure? I grew up in chalvey, and not even I would walk through there now during the day, let alone the night!

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PassiveChemistry@reddit

Whilst I don't have much direct experience myself, I suspect Whitely in Reading fots this description. My parents have always warned ne away from the place - to the point that they were once concerned that I'd even got off the bus on the main road that passes the area - but anyone I've spoken to who actually lives there or nearby has given a more agreeable account of how it is now.

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Mum-Less-Ordinary@reddit

Manchester? For some people still has a bad rep but it’s a really great place.

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Joe_PM2804@reddit

Doesn't have a bad rep, I think the majority of people would call it the best city in the UK after London.

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Melodic_Ingenuity962@reddit

Id says its better than London. Great public transport and so close to the lakes and the Peak District. I’m biased though as a Mancunian born and bred.

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Junior_Custard_4311@reddit

Milton Keynes - It has a bad rap, but no city compares for green spaces

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Romeo_Jordan@reddit

Dundee

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Shangos_Wolf@reddit

Morecambe

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Shaam63@reddit

Merthyr Tydfil. I’m not saying that as a joke either. The facilities and shops are great and it’s right on the edge of the Brecon Beacons National Park

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HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit

Idk if it has a bad rep, more no rep, but Sheffield is lovely especially the west side around the Peaks.

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Desperate-Drawer-572@reddit (OP)

I think it is more no rep

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SilverellaUK@reddit

Sheffield is the number one place for students to remain after University rather than returning home. Also (from another Reddit thread) Widely recognized as one of the leafiest cities in Europe, boasting over 4.5 million trees (reportedly more trees than people). Notably, it is the only English city with a portion of a National Park (the Peak District) located within its boundaries.

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HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit

I’m from Sheffield and any time I mention it the usual impression is it’s rough if they’ve actually heard of it. If they haven’t you just have to say you’re from Manchester and if they’re a complete idiot then you go London.

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Paull7@reddit

I went around 15 years ago, looked a decent place but heard it's got a bad rep

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louilondon@reddit

London

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KonkeyDongPrime@reddit

Hull

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