Been married 21 years. I haven't gotten laid in about 6 weeks and I slept downstairs last night because of an argument over a fuckin oven light. But I need to make this work, because I am flat out not participating in whatever the fuck society is calling "dating" in 2026.
>get tinder last year
>match with girl
>she blanks my messages
>match with girl
>said she has a cute cat
>she deletes her profile
>match with girl
>hit it off
>remotely hint at meeting up
>ghosted
>match with girl
>meet up
>looks nothing like her profile pic
App deleted.
Dating apps are a numbers game that are designed to prolong the process as much as possible to keep you using them. If four bad matches on an app was enough to make you give up, then there was no hope for you to begin with.
Well the comment was getting into TLDR territory…
I had plenty of matches, almost all of them had zero social skills, couldn’t seem to venture beyond one word answers, and ghosted at the slightest suggestion of meeting up.
Stop looking for love on the Jewish entrapment app. It is designed to keep you and the women using it on there, not to help you find a partner.
Delete it or do what I do and use it to troll the plethora of delusional women on it.
there's definitely a twisted, perverse irony that women are the ones expecting mennto come.uo with somethinf clever in these chats whike they can't even come up with something to respond beyond one word answers..
Lottery games are a numbers game that are designed to prolong the process as much as possible to keep you playing. If four lottery losses were enough to make you give up, then you understand statistics and dopamine manipulation in a way our overlords do not approve
I get that, dating apps are scams designed to trick idiots. If, like some of the little virgins scampering around this thread, you think dealing with women on a dating app is the same thing as real life, then you were hopeless to begin with.
Don’t get me wrong, modern women aren’t perfect, but there are still plenty of decent women out there.
If she isn't willing to meet within a week, then:
a) you're just an emotional tampon or a jester;
b) she's fishing for better options (you're ugly to her, but she's too ugly for Chad);
c) she lied on her profile and wants to create sunk cost / soften you;
d) she a dude.
Maybe Tinder and the dating scene has gotten significantly worse, but when I was on there I didn’t seem to have too many issues with setting up dates and hooking up.
Albeit, I’ve been with my now wife for 5ish years now total and have been married for 3 years. Met through friends rather than the apps.
I’m fat, but I wouldn’t say I’m necessarily ugly. Being funny was always my saving Grace.
Quite literally, she let me hit cause I’m goofy.
Has shit changed that much over the last 5 years?
I would average maybe a few matches a week and maybe a date or hookup per month or every other month.
Are y’all struggling that much right now with it?
maybe I’m doing something wrong, but for me it’s been pretty miserable to the point where my motivation to even spend my time on the app has been incredibly low when I know I probably will get nothing in return. I get maybe one match per week when I’m actively swiping, and I have yet to convert one of these interactions to an irl meeting; they usually ghost me after 2 or 3 messages exchanged.
Not a chad but not hideous imo, and have a respectable job in IT making good money. Maybe it’s the nerdy interests that drive women off.
I try my hardest to not get incel-y and/or bitter about it, hence why I’ve mostly just stopped using it, but it does make me wonder whether there’s something severely wrong with me that I can’t see.
It’s definitely just how you/we get 1-2 matches and they have min 10+ guys chatting at the same time and I get it, there’s always a bigger fish than you out there.
I thought the same as you, I make good money, have close to a $2M net worth at 30 (I don’t advertise nor does my profile reflect that) and don’t get any matches. The ones I do, they either never reply to the opener, don’t wanna go out and ghost after asking for a date, etc. I had a girl on hinge match with me and she specifically had a pre match message saying to not match with her if I’m looking for hookups. Okay, she’s probably serious and wants to put in the effort to find someone. Then she proceeds to reply twice and then ghosts me.
But I get it, I was talking to my sister the other day and she’s out there matching with literal heart surgeons and dentists that make 4-5x what I do, taller than me, etc. I wouldn’t date me either haha
I will say, an enlightening experience was seeing a platonic female friend’s Tinder a couple years ago. The difference was astounding. She’s an average-looking, overweight girl with lots of emotional baggage and trauma (sounds mean, but just to give an objective perspective) and yet her inbox was absolutely flooded. She was able to go on a date with a different guy every couple weeks without much effort until she settled down with her current boyfriend about a year ago. Supply and demand issue, 5/10 women and 5/10 men are playing a completely different game from each other.
100% games rigged by the powers that be. I don’t blame the women as that’s just their circumstances and nature to look for a guy that ticks off every box
Bollocks. There is no right strategy for the wrong girl.
If she isn't all that interested the length of time from talking to a date is irrelevant.
In OPs case she likely had lukewarm feelings anyway. Went on a date with another guy she liked and ghosted him because "men get scary when you reject them!"
It's that simple.
Wrong.
Quickly pushing for an in-person meetup is the correct strategy, regardless of the girl.
If she’s uninterested, she gets filtered out quickly. If she’s interested, you’ve preserved momentum and saved everyone’s time
I’m so happy I don’t have to deal with this anymore but yes. You can’t talk for even more than 3-4 days or it’s over. If you they say they are busy that weekend just consider it over. There is no reason to waste time on time wasters
The other reason is you have to catch them when they're in the right frame of mind. Wait too long and the mood they were in that had them open to going on a date will likely subside. It's a brief window.
Pushing for a date early doesn’t increase the odds of a date, but it does filter out those who aren’t serious. A lot of women use those apps as a form of entertainment. If they’re not down to make plans, you’re likely wasting your time.
Oh also. She could be like 50lbs heavier than her pics showed so doesn't want to meet up.
She could have simply been seeking validation.
She could have a partner she is hiding.
She could be social awkward and nervous hence avoiding commitment for a date.
Simplest advice is don't get emotionally attached until you have met, you realise you like her and you feel a connection.
Prior to that she should be nothing more than an option.
When I was last active on dating apps I'd generally have about 2-3 girls at any one time who had said they were up for meeting up within the next. Generally only 1 of those dates would actually happen. It's just a sales funnel pure and simple.
It's terrible for igniting any sort of passion really which is a shame as I would like to fall in love. But if that doesn't happen at least I can get laid.
On the other hand, I'm going through a similar situation as OP, except instead of gjosting, she asked me out again and I think we're seeing eachother?
Smashed the other night, first time in 3 years since I got widowed. Went through four rubbers. I'm proud of myself. I feel like I could be messiah to the untouched.
you can't blame women for this. an average woman on dating apps shuffles through gorillion number of worthless profiles of men, and actively talks with 10-20 of men (permissible by dating apps), not counting outside of apps through personal messaging apps and social media... there is a good chance, she literally forgot OP's existence.
there is nothing can be about it. just go outside dating apps, throw your dice, pick one and go for it. if it did not work, go for next one. for all the faults we see with current dating culture, it has given basically unlimited number of choices to both women (in dating apps) and men (in real world). so keep an abundant mindset if you want to deal with current dating culture.
>and actively talks with 10-20 of men (permissible by dating apps)
Dating apps should ban that imo. No matter whether you're a man or a woman, you should be able to actively talk to max 3 people at once. If you want to match with or talk to someone else, you should be forced to unmatch with one of the 3 people that you are currently talking to. Would at least stop this bs.
yep, i would say, that number should be :: 1
and with a cooldown period. if you match with someone, then you talk with that person for at least a day or so. this will make dating apps more equitable for both and destroy a good chunk of inceldom/manosphere in a single move.
but of course, capitalism won't allow this. dating apps give women with near unlimited choices so very less incentive to actually get into a serious relationships. on the other hand, give men, a choice of illusion and get them hooked on paid subscription while you totally weaponize their insecurities and let the world gaslighting them into depression telling them just simply suck for what they are.
1 would be too little, especially with cooldowns. You can get matched with an AI bot scammer, woman that is only there to fish for compliments, or with a retard, etc. People would just not use it.
>AI bot scammer
that is easy, let only verified accounts linked with some national ID and phone numbers.
>woman that is only there to fish for compliments, or with a retard, etc.
with this arrangement, incentives will simply disappear for this kind of stuff.
>People would just not use it.
If it could only get serious people to use, i see that as a win, but capitalism will always Sprevails.
do you know, pretty much all dating apps are owned by single corporation called "match group". they own it all : tinder, hinge, bumble, every fucking thing.
Like usual..go look at who makes them.
They'd never in a million years make something that would make YOU happy.
It's always about the money, the more money they can extract, the better. Ruins society? Even better! Makes men of certain demographics even more hopeless!?Just keeps getting better!
I hated that feeling of knowing I was probably one of five or six current matches and that it was a numbers game that I would probably lose because they found a better looking option. I know it's immature but it felt honestly like being cucked if that made sense. How are you supposed to compete with the other people, that too it's an artificial competition, irl sure people talk to others while you're in dating phase but you don't actively feel like you're "competing".
Whole thing felt like a circus.
I’ve been on both sides of the ghosting game, and though it made me feel like a total heel, the times I tried to let someone down easy or honestly made them just try harder. Given this insight, if doubling down is how they react to such rejection, they expect you to do the same, so they’re just doing what they see as needs to be done.
It sucks. It’s awful. It’s reality.
My advice to all anons: don’t get attached until you’re *well* established IRL, and even then stay guarded until you and them hit some sort of best friends with bonus sex level (this takes a few years). And if you never get to that stage, you’re wasting your time.
Source: am a rare success story of online dating sites. Been together almost a decade, married for about half that time, just had our first kid.
You're looking at it the wrong way. You need to count your blessings.
Do you think Chad gets every girl he wants? No. We just see him after he's tried and failed and tried and failed. And a lot of those failures were girls he had emotionally *and financially* invested in who ended up ghosting him.
You're experiencing the same thing Chad has, except your actual cost isn't anything. Yes, rejection and being ignored hurts. But what do you think happens to Chad when he buys a girl a drink at a bar? He has to buy a lot of women drinks before one agrees to spend time with him.
Your 'buying drinks' is just spending some time chatting.
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