Have you ever seen pure WASP?

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My entire dad's side, yeah. I have 2 ancestors who were passengers on the Mayflower and there's a whole chunk of Vermont named after that line of my family, where King George III had given another of my ancestors a land grant back in the mid-1700s.

Lotta people in New England can trace their entire family lineage back to specific transatlantic crossings among Puritan families in the 1600s.

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uursaminorr@reddit

white people here barely know what kind of “white” they are. white supremacy is less about exact country of origin and more about excluding other people. bear in mind, italians and irish weren’t really considered white for a long time. “white” is a social status, not an actual race or culture.

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dlerach@reddit

If you go to the Northeast or Midwest there is major division still between various European ethnicities. I think what you’re describing is more common in the sunbelt.

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uursaminorr@reddit

i am in the midwest.

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dlerach@reddit

And you really think people in Chicago don’t have a sense of if they’re Irish, Polish, Italian, etc.?

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uursaminorr@reddit

the one city of chicago? sure. southern wisconsin? nah. northern illinois? nah. michigan? maybe.

i’m not debating whether or not there are recognized communities, im saying the majority of white people i have interacted with dont belong to them.

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dlerach@reddit

If you live in a city in the Midwest I find that hard to believe. Maybe out in the sticks sure, but even then! Aren’t people famous for the super strong Scandinavian or German links in the Upper Midwest?

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uursaminorr@reddit

okay new york, you obviously know more than i do

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Jorost@reddit

WASPs are everywhere. I'm one. When I did 23andMe they sent me back a piece of blank white paper and said "this is you."

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Jackal2332@reddit

They gave me .2% African Hunter-Gatherer or somesuch, but honestly, I think they were just feeling bad for me for having such boring DNA, and presumably bursting into flames when exposed to sunlight.

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stebe-bob@reddit

Yeah mine was 52% German and 41% “British Isles”. The remaining ~7 percent was a mix of some Balkan and southern European (from a Great Great Grandmother from Austria-Hungary) and a little bit of Scandinavian. Not super exciting.

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MyNameIsNot_Molly@reddit

Same. 84% English 12% Welsh

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cobaltkarma@reddit

Same. 0.6% sub-Saharan African. The rest is Europe and none of my great grandparents were even immigrants so I would think it's common.

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wildeberry1@reddit

My Ancestry report said “You’re hella white!”

(54% English, 40% Scots, 6% Scandi as a US/Canadian)

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GOTaSMALL1@reddit

“How white is he!!”

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An8thOfFeanor@reddit

I come from a lone of WASPs so long it leads back to Moses

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stebe-bob@reddit

Some weeks it seems like I’m descended from Job, personally.

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Butitsadryheat2@reddit

Couldn't you just trace it by how much mayonnaise is sold in an area?

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KennstduIngo@reddit

How woud I know? Do they wear a sign or something?

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Ziggity_Zac@reddit

It says "J Crew"

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Pinkfish_411@reddit

"J. Press" would be a lot closer to the truth.

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wcpm88@reddit

A man of culture

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Stupid_Snowmeiser@reddit

Not all of them, but there’s a chance that a few wear a hooded dunce cap.

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ButterscotchOdd8257@reddit

They might.

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ToastMate2000@reddit

Do people with purely Anglo-Saxon heritage even still exist?

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MrHandsRadDay@reddit

Fuck is a wasp?

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melina26@reddit

My grandpa was pure WASP, we thought. Turned out there was a Hessian in the mix.

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Mackheath1@reddit

I'm not sure I understand - do you mean someone who descended from (current) British Islands? How would I even know? My parents are German (I'm American), but I speak with a mid-Atlantic accent - I suppose someone might 'mistake' me for a WASP?

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BusinessWarthog6@reddit

I also think most people if they see someone in public aren’t gonna think about the persons ethnic background

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ITfarmer@reddit

So European monarch genes? Not a lot of branches on the family tree?

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Terrible-Image9368@reddit

There are wasps in my bushes all the time and they are determined to build nests on my house above my door

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Mean-Math7184@reddit

Every time I look in the mirror. We have very well researched and reliable family trees going back to 15th century for the direct lineages. Things get fuzzy before the family migrated from France to England around 1400, but everything from England and USA is well preserved.

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DOMSdeluise@reddit

Well there have been two Bushes as president in my lifetime so yeah sure

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-RedRocket-@reddit

Not that I know of.

I wonder how many Angles, Saxons or Jutes' descendants never either intermarried with native Britons, or with subsequent populations of Normans or Danes.

No one still talks like Beowulf.

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GaryJM@reddit

According to genetic studies, it looks like nobody in the UK is "pure Anglo-Saxon". Analysis of early Anglo-Saxon burial sites suggest that they were intermarrying with the locals almost as soon as they started settling here. Modern British people have between 25% and 40% Ango-Saxon ancestry.

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Federal_Pickles@reddit

Have I ever seen a white person?

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PaleCar821@reddit (OP)

Nah, most of white Americans are from Germany or Ireland. So I'm asking

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Classic-Push1323@reddit

White Americans with English ancestry are the second largest subgroup of "White Americans." If you include "Old Stock Americans," who are also English, they are the largest group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

Someone who has a small amount of Irish ancestry doesn't necessarily have ancestors who came to the US from Ireland. Many English people living in England also have Irish ancestry.

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DosZappos@reddit

I don’t think that disqualifies anyone

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Kseries2497@reddit

It would make them not Anglo-Saxons, which is part of being a WASP. Not that anyone really cares about it.

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squirrel_haka@reddit

You just throw out “most white Americans are from Germany or Ireland” as if it were common knowledge? That’s absurd.

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bluecrowned@reddit

It's also not true lmao

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im_in_hiding@reddit

Can you tell the difference between Americans with distant German ancestors and Americans with distant English ancestors? We're many generations into being a country and a lot of mixing has happened

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ScarletDarkstar@reddit

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

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Weary_Song7154@reddit

Why the hell would I ask everyone what their ethnic background is?

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Trialbyfuego@reddit

There are many white Anglo Saxon Protestants in America. However there are many white Anglo Saxon atheists too.

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Hotdog_Grabber@reddit

I saw an actual wasp this morning. Other than that, I have no fucking idea you weirdo

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Butitsadryheat2@reddit

😂😂😂

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ScarletDarkstar@reddit

There were 4 wasps on my garlic yesterday evening.

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BeepCheeper@reddit

Yeah they’re mostly in New England

“Pure” is a weird choice of words

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ThereCastle@reddit

Yes, I live in New England.

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ABelleWriter@reddit

I married one. This man is mayonnaise level of white. Absolutely nothing but British heritage. It's wild.

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cheekmo_52@reddit

Anglo-Saxon is a reference to a group of different Germanic Tribes, including the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, who migrated to Britain is something like the 5th century. The P in WASP stands for Protestant.. which didn’t exist until Lutheranism started in the fourteenth century. So Anglo-Saxons were there for a thousand years before Protestantism exists. They weren’t all ethnicity to begin with, and nine of them were Protestants. There is no such thing as a pure WASP.

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50ShadesOfKrillin@reddit

nope, I grew up in nothing but diverse neighborhoods and I like it that way

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im_in_hiding@reddit

That's kinda impossible for us to know just by looking at white people. And if there are subtle signs then most people don't know those signs or care to.

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One-Hand-Rending@reddit

Yes...they all live in Connecticut. They are easy to spot.

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theycallmethevault@reddit

I'm curious how you think we'd know them by sight?

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Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit

The majority of the country identifies as white, has ancestors from the UK, and the Protestants are the largest religious group in the US. So it's very common for people to fall under the WASP banner, and it's not like we (or even they) would know if there are other ethnicities or religious people in their ancestry.

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Tom__mm@reddit

There are millions of while people in the US who are of generally British descent and are some flavor of Protestant. You’ll find them from yachting clubs to trailer parks.

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benicebuddy@reddit

People say Americans are racist, but at least they can tell who you're supposed to hate by looking at them. Europeans need to know your whole family tree (or just the country where you were born) before they know if they are supposed to hate you. I don't know which is worse, but they are both awful.

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sydni1210@reddit

I truly don’t believe they even exist at this point. If they do, inbreeding is occurring.

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mikhailguy@reddit

I'm from South Florida..I did have very white a British friend in elementary school. Nice kid, but he looked middle-aged even at 8 years old.

He looked pretty white to me

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Peepaw50@reddit

I'm pretty sure I'm a WASP, but I can only trace my lineage back to 1555 in Saxony Germany.

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LucidLeviathan@reddit

One of my grandmothers was Cherokee (or at least claimed to be so; she was a bit nutty), but aside from that, yes.

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CommonwealthCommando@reddit

It's hard to find one without at least a little Irish or Scandinavian in them, but yeah, we have plenty.

They frighten me.

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pricklycactass@reddit

Yeah all of my dads side of the family. They trace back to the mayflower.

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Pitiful_Fox5681@reddit

I don't understand the question, but if it's "have you ever met a daughter of the Mayflower" or "have you ever met a descendent of a British protestant who still has all British ancestry and is still protestant" the answer is yes. This was fairly normal in the small town I lived in in Connecticut. My wife's (very old) grandmother in Maine also fits this category, though my wife's mom does not, and my wife is Catholic and half Persian.

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Cowboywizard12@reddit

Even the Anglo-Saxons mixed with thr Celtics considering DNA testing shows despite the common belief more British people are of Celtic Descent than Anglo Saxon Descent

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ThisOnesforYouMorph@reddit

Yea, I've seen pure WASP. You can, too; they're still touring. They'll probably play Blind in Texas.

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HueyLongest@reddit

I'm not going to send you a picture but I'm about as close to being pure WASP as you can reasonably get (ignore ironic flag in bio)

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mcaffrey@reddit

This is not something Americans think about or talk about. Only weird racists in Idaho focus on "mixing". If I were to imagine WASPS, they would be rich old money folks in the northeast, but it would never occur to me to think about it in terms of any ethnic purity or whatever that means. That isn't how America works.

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