Stop cloning Reddit. A protocol for something better than forums and Reddit already exists, nobody's built the product yet.
Posted by biohackeddad@reddit | RedditAlternatives | View on Reddit | 11 comments
Disclaimer: I had AI write this post from my own words, and have diligently edited this, for my own speed, this ideas are not AIs, it just helped me write this to save time.
Stop cloning Reddit. Build forums on Nostr. The protocol already exists. Someone just needs to make the product.
Every "Reddit alternative" makes the same mistake: they clone Reddit. Lemmy is Reddit but decentralized. Tildes is Reddit but slower. Kbin is Reddit but federated. And every time, the pitch is ideology: "own your data," "decentralization matters" which is genuinely important but has never once moved a mass audience.
Meanwhile, the actual refugees from banned/quarantined/rug-pulled subreddits all end up on Discord, which is the worst possible replacement. Everything is ephemeral. Conversations vanish into an unsearchable void. The same questions get answered weekly because nothing persists. And Discord can nuke your entire server with no warning, no appeal, no export. You traded one landlord for a worse one.
The thing people actually miss isn't Reddit. It's forums. But let's be honest about what Reddit got right.
Old forums had a real problem. You'd search for an answer, find a 12-page thread, and wade through 10 shitposts for every 1 useful reply. Page 1, nothing. Page 2, nothing. Page 7, some guy in 2011 actually answered it. The search was terrible. There was no way to surface the best content. You just had to read everything and hope.
Reddit solved this. Upvotes and downvotes meant the best answer floated to the top. You could open a thread and immediately see the most useful comment. The UI was cleaner, faster to browse, easier to consume. That was a genuine UX win over traditional forums and it's the reason Reddit killed them.
But Reddit used to have BOTH the good interface AND real community. Subreddits had regulars. You recognized usernames. Your pseudonym had weight — people knew you as the person who always gave good advice in r/whatever. Power users wrote detailed guides, maintained wikis, built the knowledge base. Your reputation mattered.
Now? Reddit is a content feed. It's competing with TikTok for attention. The regulars burned out or left, replaced by bots, karma farmers, and AI-generated slop trained on the very content those original users created. Nobody recognizes anyone. Pseudonyms are meaningless. The API changes killed third-party apps. The community is hollowed out even as the user numbers go up.
So the goal isn't to go back to old forums as they were. It's to take the UX improvements Reddit introduced voting, sorting, surfacing the best content and put them on top of a forum architecture that actually preserves community. Persistent threads. Recognizable regulars. Pseudonyms that carry reputation. Knowledge that accumulates over years. A place that feels like yours instead of a feed you scroll through.
Reddit killed forums by centralizing them under one login. Discord killed what was left by making everything disposable.
What if you could have the best of both with a universal login, real pseudonymity, and no corporation that can pull the plug?
Nostr in 30 seconds
Nostr is an open protocol (not a platform, not a company) where your identity is a cryptographic key pair. Your private key is your password. Your public key is your username. That's it. No email verification, no phone number, no company storing your credentials.
When you post, your message gets signed with your key and sent to multiple independent servers called "relays." Your post now exists in several places at once. No single entity controls it. If one relay goes down, your content still exists on the others.
The key insight: Nostr already has a spec for Reddit-style communities (NIP-72). The relay network exists. The identity layer exists. The anti-spam tools exist (Web of Trust, proof of work). Nobody has built the forum product yet.
The actual product vision: Hosted forums, not another aggregator
Stop trying to build one big site. Instead:
- Anyone can run a forum. Like the old days. It doesn't need to live on an aggregator like a vBulletin free host — but it could be. Get a subdomain from a provider (mycommunity.nostrforums.com or whatever), or point your own domain, or self-host on a $5 VPS, or run it off a Raspberry Pi in your closet. Doesn't matter. Your forum, your rules, your moderation, your culture.
- One login everywhere. Your Nostr identity works on every forum running this software. You don't create a new account for each community. You show up and you're already you. And this isn't limited to new software — Nostr login plugins can be built for existing forum platforms like Discourse, WordPress, phpBB, and others. Communities that already have a home don't need to move. They just add a login option and they're connected to the same identity network.
- Mods have real power over their space. They can delete posts, ban users, set rules — all of it. Their forum, their call. But they only control the display layer. They can't erase your content from existence.
- You never lose your posts. When a mod removes your post from their forum, it's filtered from that view. The actual data still lives on relays and your personal backup. Getting banned from a forum is a social consequence, not a data loss event.
- Self-host or use a provider. The whole stack is lightweight enough that the hosting choice is yours, not a constraint.
This is NOT Mastodon/Fediverse "everyone sees everything." Each forum is its own space. Its own community. Its own vibe. The protocol connects them at the identity level, not the content level. You don't see every forum's posts in one giant feed. You visit the communities you care about, like you'd visit different websites.
The pseudonym system is the killer feature
Forget "anonymous vs. real name." With Nostr, generating a new identity takes a fraction of a second — it's just a new key pair. You can have:
- A professional identity
- A hobby identity
- A venting-about-work identity
- A throwaway for one sensitive post
Each one builds its own reputation independently. Nobody knows they're connected unless you choose to prove it. You could cryptographically link two identities whenever you want — merging their reputation — or keep them separate forever.
The gap right now: There's no clean multi-pseudonym management in current Nostr clients. This is a known need. The forum client should have account switching as a core feature — tap between your identities like switching accounts on Instagram. Your personal relay stores everything across all identities, encrypted and private.
The adoption strategy: Trojan horse, not migration
Nobody is going to voluntarily leave Reddit and start over on an empty platform. So don't ask them to.
Step 1: Bridge plugins. Build a plugin for Discourse, WordPress, phpBB — whatever forum software people already use. The plugin does two things: mirrors all public posts to Nostr relays, and lets users optionally log in with Nostr. The existing forum works exactly as before. But now all content also exists on the open protocol.
Step 2: Backfill from public data. Reddit posts are public. Mirror public subreddit content onto Nostr relays under community tags. The forum client has content on day one. It's not empty. The cold start problem is solved before you launch.
Step 3: Let users claim their history. A Reddit user finds the Nostr forum, sees their posts already there, and links their Reddit account to a Nostr key pair. Their post history is now theirs — portable, permanent, under their control. They migrated without migrating.
Step 4: The login that makes it effortless. The forum supports "Login with Google" for people who don't know what Nostr is and don't care. It also has "Login anonymously with Nostr" (or "Login with a portable identity" or whatever framing works). Both types of users coexist in the same forum. Over time, Google users notice the Nostr users can do things they can't — their login works everywhere, they can switch identities, they own their posts. The conversion happens naturally.
You could even generate a Nostr key pair in the background for every Google login user. Their posts go to relays under that key without them knowing. When they're ready to go full Nostr, the identity is already there with all their history attached. The Google login was training wheels.
What this competes with (and what it doesn't)
This isn't trying to replace Reddit's front page. Let Reddit be the attention feed. Let it compete with TikTok and Instagram for eyeballs. That battle is already lost for anyone who cares about community.
This competes with Discord as the place communities flee to when they get deplatformed. The pitch: "You know how you rebuilt on Discord and now you can't find anything anyone ever said and you're one TOS update from losing it again? What if you had a real forum that was actually yours?"
This competes with nothing for at-risk communities — because right now they have no good options. Whistleblowers, activists, harm reduction communities, controversial-but-legal hobby groups, political organizers, people in repressive countries. All of them need persistent communities with real anonymity that can't be taken away by a platform's content policy team.
The honest gaps
This isn't all solved. Here's what still needs work:
- No forum client exists. The protocol supports it, NIP-72 is specced, but nobody's built a polished forum product. Everyone in the Nostr ecosystem keeps building Twitter clones.
- Multi-pseudonym UX is rough. Current clients let you switch accounts but it's clunky. The forum client needs identity management as a first-class feature — quick switching, per-post identity selection, unified notification view across pseudonyms.
- Granular visibility controls. Right now Nostr is mostly public-by-default. Some communities need the ability to restrict who can read (not just who can post). Private/members-only forums need encrypted content or relay-level access controls. This is being worked on but isn't mature.
- AI scraping. If content is publicly accessible, AI will scrape it. There's no solving this fully without making the content private, which defeats the purpose. Worth acknowledging rather than pretending it's solvable.
- Key management for normal people. If you lose your private key, your identity is gone. Solutions exist (encrypted backups, NIP-46 bunkers, password-manager storage) but it needs to be as invisible as iCloud Keychain for average users.
The one-sentence version
Nostr gives us a universal login and censorship-resistant data layer. Someone needs to build a modern forum platform on top of it — not another Reddit clone, not another Twitter clone, but actual forums — and make it so easy your mom could run one.
The protocol is ready. The identity system works. The relay network is live. The spec for communities exists. We're one good product away from having the thing this subreddit has been asking for since 2015.
If you're a developer: look at NIP-72. Build the Discourse of Nostr. The hard infrastructure work is done. It just needs a frontend that doesn't look like a crypto project.
If you're a community organizer: look at Nostr. Your next home might not be another platform. It might be a protocol.
RadiantFlower3026@reddit
ngl the nostr pitch is solid on paper but NIP-72 has been 'ready' for two years and nobody's shipped anything - noreffshub has the pattern on this, protocols without products just become whitepapers.
Manlor@reddit
I like the idea. I agree that centralized accounts makes sense.
But who own the logins and post history database? Is it all on the relays? Is it 100% decentralized? Does it depends on DNS entries owned by one entity?
Because that is a point of failure if the whole system is dependent on a third party. Hard to ask people to make their whole app/forum dependent on something hosted out of their control and that could be shut down/changed at any time.
biohackeddad@reddit (OP)
Dependent on relays and you could run your own as well.
topselection@reddit
Reddit didn't solve this. It turned discussions into Manichean popularity contests. The best answer doesn't float to the top. Providing the best answer wasn't the original purpose of upvotes and downvotes.
shunny14@reddit
It turned discussions into popularity contests because karma became this scoreboard. Remove the karma keep the up and downvotes to sort comments and it would fix some of these issues. But then Reddit would lose the dopamine boosts people get by posting content and comments.
Also, in a smaller community where the point of the post IS a question, yes the answer usually gets to the top. Example: r/ForzaHorizon; can you play Forza Horizon with triple screens? Or on r/techsupport. If you have the right answer you no longer have to write, you just upvote it.
biohackeddad@reddit (OP)
I'm with you, the smaller community it works, larger community it's annoying.
IMDXLNC@reddit
It also encouraged annoying repetitive comments. People try so hard to be funny that only other unfunny people upvote the unfunny joke.
I didn't read OP's entire post but they're right about one thing, I do miss forums. Purely because of how responses are chronological.
biohackeddad@reddit (OP)
100%! I agree it encouraged annoying repetitive comments. But for someone (like most of us) that were on niche forums, yes, good answers did rise to the top, and nested comments improved things as well.
biohackeddad@reddit (OP)
You actually make a great point, and I forgot about the annoying part of that - it's mostly shown in the general subreddits (which i don't even go to)
But it's kind of like "karma" from forums, where "high karma" people could knock you down or get you up and people sucked up to them.
I believe in niche subreddits, this nested comment style, with upvotes, actually provides a better experience. HOWEVER I somewhat dislike how all replies continue to get nested. Like each comment should have a maxiumum of 2 down levels of comments.
Regardless, this is a solution each person could put into their own forum style, in this type of setup.
puck2@reddit
TLDR
biohackeddad@reddit (OP)
copy and paste it into AI for the cliffnotes brother