Customer Service / Support experiences with Pure Storage?
Posted by Adventurous-View-108@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 18 comments
I'm trying to keep this vague as our exact situation is probably pretty identifiable. We are in the market for some new storage appliances, replacing our aging compellent arrays. Due to the dollar amounts involved, we put out public bids for the project, and Pure was one of the respondents. We liked their offering, both the hardware and the whole support package that comes with it, as well as all the positive reviews I see here on Reddit, and selected them as the winner.
When we went to purchase the hardware however, we were informed that the price they submitted to the public bid was no longer valid due to increases in DRAM prices, and it would increase by about 100%. We fully understand that the market is insane right now, but our Auditors probably wont. They submitted a public bid with a specified purchase date that they cannot meet.
The reason I am reaching out here is because our experience with the sales team is that they are entirely inflexible. We have been trying to work with them to come up with a solution and they absolutely will not budge on any aspect of the bid. At this point we may as well be talking to a SQL lookup table. Is this normal with Pure? We've had countless meetings with them, including some of the sales managers, and its always the same - get bent. They even went as far as to say that the other vendors probably didn't read the RFP either, and also wouldn't be able to honor their prices, which seemed pretty unprofessional.
I've never run into a sales team that I couldn't bargain with before, or wouldn't at least throw us a bone to make our higher-ups feel better about price increases, and it has us worried about how inflexible they may be with support and customer service inquiries going forward, if we can make the purchase happen. I thought Dell was getting bad, but at least they honored their prices.
LadyK1104@reddit
How much time was there between bid to purchase? Was there an expiration date on the quote?
fys4@reddit
This is the key question. If the quote has expired you're screwed.. If it hasn't then its pretty shabby of pure (or whatever they're called this week :D)
Adventurous-View-108@reddit (OP)
It would have been about 45 days. But after 14 days they said the price was no longer good. I can't guarantee i can get a check printed in 2 weeks even if I have the invoice ready to go.
civilaiden@reddit
Technical support is great. Usually quick responses for informational questions and quick responses on issues.
Sales wasn't too great on an additional device we added this year. I don't remember them being a bother on previous ones so IDK if was a simpler request or if it's just current market.
DeadStockWalking@reddit
Pure Storage doesn't make their own system RAM so yeah, you're screwed.
Stonewalled9999@reddit
even if Pure *did* make their own RAM you'd still be under the "do I sell to you or do I sell to big data AI for big money"
Fatel28@reddit
Dell is doing the same thing right now. They don't guarantee any pricing for any amount of time. Any quote we have received has been "this is the price right now. It might not be the price when it's actually built and ready to ship. Gfy"
It just is what it is. Terrible time to be buying hardware sadly
TacodWheel@reddit
We had a Dell server quote jump from $9k to &18k in less than 9 mos.
Fatel28@reddit
We quoted 2 servers for a customer 2 years ago, 58k. They wanted to wait.
Well now their old ass 2009 servers are failing and the quote from Dell for the same specs/storage is about 300k total.
Stonewalled9999@reddit
Kevin is that you? And Willy wants to "cloud" instead of spending the money for on prem...like that's going to save us money.
Adventurous-View-108@reddit (OP)
Thats unfortunate. I'm really not looking forward to having to explain the global DRAM market to a bunch of politicians on camera.
McSmiggins@reddit
A bunch of politicians hearing the root cause for DRAM pricing going up might actually be a good thing
I’m just sorry it’s fallen on you to do it, it’s gotta suck
themightybamboozler@reddit
Tell them to ask their buddies that are executives at other companies what hardware expenditures look like right now. It’s like this everywhere, hardware purchasing is miserable. Is what it is.
NeedAColdBeerHere@reddit
Pure had a 30% price increase in March and another 30% increase in May. We had budgetary quotes open with them that they said they could honor if orders were made before June, but I guess June was a hard cutoff. Our account reps hands are fairly tied by finance lately due to the memory shenanigans.
Jawshee_pdx@reddit
Pure has been great for us, but we have had it for awhile.
Support has been awesome, even recently.
TSwiftDivorceLawyer@reddit
Got a notice on my phone that we had a drive go ass up while I was in the bathroom. I don't recall the exact details but I'm pretty sure I had a confirmation number on the Fedex shipment of the replacement before I got back to my desk. Yes, I take long bathroom breaks but they made it soooo easy for me.
The only team that told us to get bent was Broadcom when they did the price reset.
virtual_corey@reddit
As others have mentioned flash shortages for memory and storage are driving up pricing. Historically I could go to an compute vendor and play one against the other, but the back of house financing folks have most of the final say in pricing. Our reps aren't able to get much, if anything at all. Where historically there was maybe 5-10% of wiggle to get the deal done.
Have both Dell/pure/netapp, and everyone has short quote windows for storage arrays. If you are lucky 30 days.
Pure support has been very solid when needed.
krattalak@reddit
Pure is going to cost you no matter what. It's top tier equipment and imo worth every penny, particularly if you get evergreen (why wouldn't you?) and buy enough storage to use safemode.
We have 6 arrays with 2pb of raw storage. Every so often, Pure shows up and replaces key hardware with the new hotness "free" of charge (evergreen)