Radeon RX 9070 GRE Review: AMD's RTX 5070 killer?
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We reviewed the Radeon RX 9070 GRE again, now that the card is apparently getting a western launch after originally being limited to China.
The interesting part is not just raw performance, but AMD’s positioning: The RX 9070 GRE sits in a weird spot between the regular RX 9070 and Nvidia’s RTX 5070, while also trying to answer the ongoing VRAM debate with 12 GiByte instead of 8 GiByte.
In our review, we looked at how well that actually works in practice:
- performance compared to the RTX 5070
- whether 12 GiByte VRAM is enough for current games
- how the card behaves outside of China
- whether this is a sensible product or more of a stopgap
- Jacky
constantlymat@reddit
MSRP only makes "sense" if Igor was right about in his article about impending RX 9070 and 9070XT price increases.
Even then the competition with the RTX 5070 is a tough look.
a_single_beat2@reddit
The 9070 series launch MSRP and retail were different, they could have just done that here, launch at 449 and sell for 550. At least they would have a small media marketing win like last time and F the gamers, F the gamers anyway because 9070 series was the same thing and not like they cared or responded.
Popingheads@reddit
Yeah but the 9070 prices fell back down to msrp later on anyway, so it ended up being no different.
In fact its quite impressive a GPU with 16gb of ram is still so cheap with all the price increases. Maybe AMD is just eating the lower margin idk.
detectiveDollar@reddit
Could be a scenario where they have low stock of the GRE due to yields being good, so the price sucks due to low supply.
Plus the 5070 is a hundred bucks more than this so AMD is the main competition to themselves.
Mainly-A-Lurker@reddit
UK:
Cheapest 9070: £520.
Cheapest 5070: £500, while also coming with £40 Steam voucher and 007 qame code.
Cheapest 9070 GRE: £500, comes with nothing.
There's no way AMD are dumb enough to actually jack up the prices of the 9070/9070 XT to sell these... right?
Morningst4r@reddit
The price is obviously bad, but new products often launch higher than existing ones. Either the GRE will drop or they'll sit around and no one will buy them.
ICC-u@reddit
Most expensive 9060 XT: £450
Cheapest 9070 GRE: £490
I think price increases are coming.
jenny_905@reddit
It's not a 5070 killer, it's just a weirdly positioned card that isn't cheap enough.
detectiveDollar@reddit
Probably, I feel like they priced it poorly because yields are good and it's a salvage die, thus there's low supply.
Darksider123@reddit
Dumbest headline. Downvoted
snollygoster1@reddit
The reality is that Nvidia still has a better public persona, and it's not undeserved. Even in portables Intel has better technologies and efficiency than AMD coming out.
Aggravating_Ring_714@reddit
5070 killer if you don’t care about performance, dlss, raytracing, rtx exclusive features, mfg, stable drivers, longterm support etc etc Awesome product AMD 👍🏻
Whirblewind@reddit
AMD has had more stable drivers than Nvidia for years. No need to invent reasons to defend your tribalism, the list is long enough without the fanfiction.
snollygoster1@reddit
No need to invent reasons to defend your tribalism, Nvidia has had stable drivers for a long time.
Aggravating_Ring_714@reddit
Never had a single issue with Nvidia drivers in the past 5+ years really, hat countless with my 9070xt.
SJGucky@reddit
It doesn't kill a 5070.
It has the same MSRP AND performance as the 3 year old 7900GRE, but the 9070GRE has 4GB LESS VRAM, making it MUCH worse.
Allfeelings0Logic@reddit
To be fair this one is RDNA4 with all the benefits that entails including native FSR4.
comelickmyarmpits@reddit
Fun fact : rx 7900gre which rdna3 performance better/on pat with rx 9070 gre which rdna 4 for rt games
And fsr4 coming to rdna3 lol
It's absolute shit product at 550 msrp
SJGucky@reddit
AMD said that FSR4 is also coming to RDNA3
OverlyOptimisticNerd@reddit
INT8 rather than FP8. That means slightly less visual quality and noticeably more performance overhead.
rulik006@reddit
5070 killer, lolwhat
in what universe?
DevoSwag@reddit
In AMD fans delusional minds
redpxwerranger@reddit
People have to realize, VRAM isn't performance, its capacity. If VRAM significantly affected the GRE's performance, it'd pan itself out in these benchmark numbers against the 16 gig 5060 ti. Well... it obviously didn't lmao raster can still be king. More VRAM can be nice to have but if the underlying card underneath that VRAM is strong, it'll still outdo a 16 gig card. The infrastructure of the 9070 GRE is just better at that price point.
Homerlncognito@reddit
9070 is 20% faster at 1440p raster at a very comparable price. 644.6 GB/s vs 432.0 GB/s bandwidth does make a difference.
redpxwerranger@reddit
The cheapest new 9070 you can get right now is a challenger at 600 bucks before tax+ship. A lot of models of the GRE are going for 550 at MSRP or even some below. I'm looking at easily replicable pricing. Someone could easily get a deal for a 9070, and good for them, but that wont be the case for everyone.
ishsreddit@reddit
They should've spiked prices up, and then announced the GRE (someone called it greatly reduced edition) in an effort to provide an option in a tough market.
Yeah i mean it would still suck but for AMD to release a GPU at equal MSRP to the superior GPU is WILD lol
a_single_beat2@reddit
Should have just launched it at $449 for the marketing and sold for $550 rather than launch at $550 which is what they launched the 9070 for....really stupid move imo.
Also worse value than a used RTX 4070...
Tiffany-X@reddit
A smarter move than what their marketing department is able to come up with. Sigh
BenchmarkLowwa@reddit
Don't be shy - mention your unrivaled set of benchmarks:
- Rasterization, Ray Tracing and Path Tracing
- 4 resolutions (Full HD, QHD, UW-QHD and Ultra HD
- 40+ games total
The "Great" Radeon Edition is only great at 1080p though. \^\^
lifestealsuck@reddit
Most people would still buy the 5070 even if the 9070 16g is cheaper. Let alone this 12g .
Allfeelings0Logic@reddit
Yes.