[Video] Jeremy Clarkson on dealing with litterbugs: “Shoot them in the head.”
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The Sunday Times Radio division briefly interviewed Jeremy Clarkson on the current politics of young British farmers. When asked about whether or not public behavior in the countryside was getting worse, he cited the amount of litter near his farm and made that sarcastic comment. Good thing he no longer works at the BBC, because if he did… 😅
From video description: “Jeremy Clarkson tells Times Radio there’s only one party doing very well with young farmers and it's Reform UK.”
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
At this rate, I think Restore will out perform Reform.
Lexiosity@reddit
Restore is another populist party that shouldn't even exist. Restore supports Brexit, and has no plans to rejoin EU, which rejoining EU would help farmers a lot. Restore are anti-people and anti-farmers.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
So they shouldnt exist because they support something you dont?
Lexiosity@reddit
They shouldn't exist because they're fascists and only care about putting money into their pockets. Farage and Lowe all care about their investors not the people of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Lowe donates his MP wages to charity... Farage is a waste of space, but Lowe seems to be reasonable.
DrummingFish@reddit
Lowe seems reasonable because he donated his salary? Pretty sure the salary is nothing to all the other revenue streams he has. His donating his salary is a sly tactic to look good, just like Trump has done.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Donating his wages is a decent thing to do, I dont know of any other MP doing it. Also I'm not gonna shame him for being successful in life, hes made many mistakes along the way, so perhaps hes paid his dues.
He seems reasonable because he want to put native British people first in Britain.
DrummingFish@reddit
It's easy for people like him to do it because he has other revenue streams. Many other honest MPs don't because their sole job and income comes from being an MP.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Okay? I know what you mean, but he dosent have too, and if he didnt, noone would be calling him out for it, but hes doing it anyway.
Lexiosity@reddit
Btw, the Green MPs donate to charities all the time.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Thats great. Their leader, Polanski, openly admitted to defrauding women. Lied to them about what he could do for them and took their money. Also I personally believe if you lock your door at night but support the greens open boarder policy, you are in contradiction with your own beliefs.
DrummingFish@reddit
Source? The "breast enlargement" stuff wasn't something he even offered. The reporter he asked him to do it, it wasn't a service he actually offered. He didn't defraud anyone.
It isn't an "open border policy", so there's no contradiction. It's also completely disanalogous.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-ee-uk-rvc2&source=android-browser&q=polanski+breast+enlargment
Top ones a BBC article and the other is just what I put into google, theres a numver of links there, again, 30 second google search here....
I will say that yes, the greens are not for open boarders, I was using hyperbole which I shouldnt because clearly your going to look at everything I say under a microscope here so Ill happily concede that. What im referring too is that hes all for immigration and asylum refugees, which is admirable but not when its costing the country more than its making, its a death spiral. Also like it or hate it, we have absolutly no obligation to take anyone from any other country.
DrummingFish@reddit
Those links don't back up what you've said.
Immigration isn't costing more than it's making. You just made that up.
With asylum seekers it will always be the case that, especially initially, the cost with outweigh any revenue coming from them, but that's expected. The issue recently is that it has been completely mismanaged by the tories and we've had recent conflicts that have exacerbated the issue, so costs have skyrocketed. This is slowly being rectified, though.
As asylum seekers, yes we do, as long as they fit the criteria. If someone claims asylum in the UK, we have to process and review their case.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Those links point out that he stood by his comments on hypnosis growing breasts. No science suggest thats true and i think its fairly obviouse hed be taking money for providing a service.
The welfare bill is outweighing income tax. Something needs to change, more immigration is not going to help that.
No, the UK has no obligation to take anyone. We have signed up to EU human rights laws which forces us too, but no, we have no obligation as people to take anyone. Morally I mean. I believe Rupert Lowe is correct, close the boarders, deport the illegals, deport economic migrants that arent conrributing or integrating and keep those migrants who came to contribute. Get people off benefits and back into work, support businesses so that tehy can hire more people. Scrap stupid net zero policy which is artificialy inflating bills....all these things seem reasonable and fair
DrummingFish@reddit
No, he said there was anecdotal evidence growing, and that it was experimental. That's it. Didn't claim it worked or that there was actual evidence it did.
Which you're just guessing. Have you got any evidence?
Why would you be talking morally when talking about obligations? I'm talking about legally and assumed you were.
Everyone wants illegals deported. The issue is people conflating illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. They're not the same thing.
How would we judge that?
Everyone wants this too. This is easy to say, but how?
Again, how? You're falling for people just saying things without any actual plans on how to do them.
Except it doesn't. Net zero policies and green energy pushes and progress is projected to save so much money and be much cheaper than continuing to push fossil fuels. Anyone who wants to scrap it hasn't actually done any research into it. Please point me to current policies that are "inflating bills".
They seem "reasonable and fair" because you don't know enough about the issues and are just trusting vague and shallow words from some random politician rather than experts.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Alrighty here goes -
anecdotal evidence is not proof. There are no scientific evidence that hyponosis grows breasts ehich was his claim, he lied and tried to weasel out of it by semantics.
welfare bill is 333 billion, income 331 billion
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-ee-uk-rvc2&source=android-browser&q=benefits+bill+vs+income+tax
Google a great tool if you use it instead of just screaming source all the time because you cant be arsed finding something out for yourself.
-fair, I was talking morally and I can see why we may have spoke by one another, I stand by it, morally we have no obligation. You and I pay into a system. That system should support the people who pay into it first.
-If they came here on a boat, in a lorry or any other means that isnt through the legal routes as in applying and waiting. Then they should be sent back, simple.
-Economic migrants, those who came here and are still on benefits after a year? Thats probably enough time to learn a language and apply for jobs and start paying into the system? If not, go home, the UK shouldnt be a charity.
-Increase the requirements for benefits to get people off it, deport lower skilled migrants who arent contributing to free up those low skilled jobs that our own citenzens can be doing to get their foot in the door. (Jobs like deliverys, fast food outlets, office jobs like admin etc)
-Lower buisness rates and taxes, national insurance contributions etc, policy which can save companies money, also shrink HR department that cause more problems than solve. Im not saying be good to businesses but. Efinetlt support the workers by helpng out businesses, especially small ones. Get rid of a lot of the red tape arojnd starting a business and give incentives to businesses for hiring staff, for small business within their first few years of operation like lower taxes. Restructuring the tax code to be simpler aswell could see a major benefit to companys and workers, or taks book ist 20+ thousand pages, all common sense tells me that that is far too much for something that could be "10% on all gross earnings". (This is an example, not literal)
-We don't currently have the infrastructure for net zero. The north sea holds massive oild reserves utilised by Norway (off the top of my head i think) but we cant drill there because of net zero policies, this extar oil would help us financially and lower or heating bills while we spend the next decade or 2 building the infrastructure to go net zero. Easy the presure on the working class for a while.
-Its not that I dont know enough, you dont seem to have the capacity to understand that we have different ideas, which is a good thing, try arguing good points and ideas instead of trying to insult my intelligence.
DrummingFish@reddit
Anecdotal evidence not being is exacrky point. He specifically said there's only anecdotal evidence. He wasn't saying that was proof of it working. No never claimed there was scientific evidence that it works.
Okay? I'm talking about your claim that immigrants will make it worse. You've missed my point again.
If you made the claim, you need to provide the source. I'm not supposed to source something you're claiming. It says a lot whenever anyone complains about being asked for sources to back up their claims.
It does.
Then you don't understand how claiming asylum works. No matter how someone comes into the country, if they're claiming asylum it's not illegal. You might not like it, but that's the law. They're only classed as illegally being here if their claim is denied, which it is then appropriate to send them back.
Do you have any stats to show how prevalent of an issue this is?
That's a lot easier said than done. What if I creasing those requirements leads to poverty or death? How do you know it's not already at a pretty low level already?
Which lowers tax income and harms employees.
The HR department of businesses? What does the government have to do with the size of HR departments?
Maybe talk to an economics expert rather than trying to use your own "common sense".
Of course we don't. Which is why we're not going net zero tomorrow. It's a gradual process. You're wanting to scrap it altogether. All the evidence shows net zero is the way forward not just environmentally, but economically.
The part that Norway has access to has massive reserves, ours doesn't. It's not worth drilling there and wouldn't benefit us much whatsoever.
How would it? The oil would be sold by private companies onto the global market at market price. The only benefit we would get as a country would be the taxes and fees that result from it. It wouldn't reduce heating bills whatsoever.
I do understand that, but if someone is saying 2+2=5 I'm going to say you're wrong. And that's what you're doing. You've shown multiple times that you lack a lot of knowledge in what you're talking about. You don't know how asylum seeking works, you don't know how net zero works, you don't know how drilling in the north sea would work.
If me telling you you're wrong and that you don't know enough is insulting your intelligence, then ok.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
-you know imntalking primarily about illegal, economic and asylum seekers, they dont rock up and start paying tax, you know that, thats how it will make it worse.
-I did provide a source, but its pretty annoying to keep providing it when its letterally a 30 second google search you can do if your questioning what I said, its not a niche thing that immigration is costing the country money...its a pretty hot topic. Id understand if you googled it and couldnt find it, but it was literally front page, 3 or 4 words into google and multiple articles show up, so thats why you should try googling it because I know you didnt, otherwise you wouldnt have asked for a sourve, seeing how overwhelmingly covered these things are.
-heres a quick google search
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-ee-uk-rvc2&source=android-browser&q=migrant+hotel+benefits
A list of things migrants get having never paid anything into our economy. I dont get free housing, I dont get a daily allowance and im willing to bet most people reading this dont. How is that putting britsh people first? Not to mentions stories of onsite dentists, and doctors. Free phones, i did work in a hotel where migrants where put and they were give free bikes. Theres footage from people going into these hotels and seeing what theh are given. That POS digwa who stabbed Nowak to death cried racism and that was taken more serious than a stabbing, dont piss on my leg and tell me its raining, migrants are treated better than locals in a lot of areas in the UK and its sickening.
-if they enter the country illegally, thhey should eb sent home, apply for astlum through the legal routes and waitnyour turn, many have done it, many are waiting and its an insult to those who did it right and came to make a better life who are being hundled with the scum who do it worng, its not fair on them.
-Id love to give you the statistics but HMRC wont record it, its something Rupert Lowe has questioned why we have no data on race and benefits claims. Maybe support his lines of questioning and we will find out if you or I are correct, i bet I am though.
-Its not hard, change the requirements. PIP claims require a condition that is likely to last more than 3 months. Thats basically it. A broken arm can claim PIP, I worked in a place that did assessment, i seen the claims, its a joke what people apply for, pregnancy, arthritis in big toe, one claimant put 'extreme itching of the labia'. 'Possession' was one that blew my mind. Make people go for actual in person assessments and outright reject silly claims for benefits. People make it their full time jobs to claim as much as possible and squirt out as many banies as possible to keep the money rolling in.
-Your missing the point less people on benefits = smaller benefits bill less people on benefits = more people having to work More people working = more taxable income for the country
We need people in jobs, companies provide jobs, lower taxes and/or rates on companies means they can employ more people. More taxable income.
-HR just often cause more harm than good, they really dont have much to do with givernment, you asked for suggestions i gave you some.
-Yes because the economic experts have done a great job with our current economy, again, your asking for suggestions, im giving you something. The tax code is insane, so bad that HMRC dosnet fully undertand it and are struggling to get the staff to man the phones, again, brought up by Rupert Lowe.
-The UK priduces less than 1% of global greenhouse gas emissions, even if we tripled that, we are still a factor of 10 below China which is about 33% of global emissions. Get a grip, lets drill our own oil, lower our energy bills for the working class and build to a net zero future over a longer term. Oh and oil rigs would provide jobs and more income tax for the economy, you dont need an expert to tell you that.
-Source that it wouldnt benefit us? 2.9 billion barrels of oil. 6.2 billion of contingent resources?
-so theres no benefit but the benefits of taxes, fees and probably any tariffs we have too, also if the oils usable for us, the compamies will likely sell to the UK, seeing they wosuldnt have to move it worldwide. Also theres not just oil rigs to be built, refineries and storage facilities which could be built in the UK, meaning more jobs, skilled, unskilled etc, more taxable income.
-The problem you are having here is you are thinking within the rules and regulations. I and many others want actual change. Change to the rules, change to the regulations, I get where your coming from. Were all in a box and your trying to make the best out of the box which i can respect, but the box has holes in it, its leaking, its being held up with bits and pieces here and there and its shit. I and many others want a different box, one thats bigger with more freedom, one thats not covered in red tape. You can disagree with me if you want, but I honestly think Restore are the best option to find that new box.
DrummingFish@reddit
No, he didn't know if it would work. He was testing it out. That's not lying. He never stated he knew it didn't work.
I didn't know that because you didn't specify. And those people are in the single digits percentage points of total immigration. It's not really making much difference whatsoever.
You said "immigration" then linked specifically to a search about migrant hotels. So you're specifically talking about asylum seekers? Which I already stated that they do cost us money, but that that's expected? Did you ignore that bit? Or am I confusing your points because your responses are confusing to track. At least I quote you.
Are you arguing that youd rather they just not get anything and starve or be forced to live like a prisoner?
Are you fleeing persecution or war? Are you seriously complaining that those that are claiming asylum are getting the bare minimum to survive?
They shouldn't get healthcare if they need it? Again, are you seriously complaining about that?
Not given by the government. Complain to the charities if you don't like it.
Youre not getting it. Coming into the country and claiming asylum isn't illegal. Try haven't entered illegally. And what "legal routes" are you talking about? Our system only allows people to apply for asylum from within the country. They can't do so outside the country.
Source?
So you're making claims you have no evidence for. Surprising.
Of course but less benefits opens up issues of increased poverty and harm and death related to it. It's a balancing act you don't seem to be considering.
That's irrelevant. We're talking about the economic and technical progress, not the environmental. Net zero isn't just about being kinder to the environment. It's about progress towards more efficient ways to produce electricity.
You just ignored everything I said. There's not much oil there. It won't lower energy bills.
What about the cost of extracting it? What about the fact we wouldn't be actually getting it, it would be sold on the open market so we'd only benefit from the taxes and fees which would be miniscule in comparison to net zero investments?
No, they wouldn't. You clearly have no clue how the oil market works. It would be sold straight on the open market to the highest bidder. If we bought it, it would be at market price. It wouldn't be discounted in any way.
That also costs a ridiculous amount of money. Why do you assume building those would be economically viable and why do you also assume they could be built before the oil runs out? It seems like you're not really thinking these ideas of yours through properly.
Change what rules and what regulations?
Might the "red tape" be there for a good reason?
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Alright, its gotten a bit too long to comprehend easily and were talking by each other. Welfare spending is 333 billion, income tax is 331 billion. Countries losing money. What do you do to fix it?
DrummingFish@reddit
Reform welfare systems (improve/introduce means testing) and increase tax on those earning £1m+.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
So esentially, get people off welfare and into work? Thats what I was advocating for.
How much more tax? People earning over £1m will likely be business owners. This may pres them into buying more assessts which cant be easily taxed, thus leading to a decrease in income tax. If your suggesting a larger increase in tax for high earners, then whats the insentive to work all year? A common concern I hear is over a certaian tax amount it would make more sense to close your business for a few months rather than keep operating. Thus leading to workers being laid off or losing out on a number of months work, meaning the could end up depending on the state. I dont think the answer is to just tax the rich more, its a tough balancing act. Not to mention that millionaires can just pack up and leave to a country with less tax if they choose.
DrummingFish@reddit
The way you describe it is like you want to strip benefits down even if it hurts many people and throws many into poverty. Which is why I was trying to get more out of you but you instead kept doubling down.
Income tax. What you're talking about it people being paid and then investing it assets. They're still being paid. Income tax wouldn't go down.
More money. Tax used to be 90% for highest earners and people still worked. People still earn money if it's taxed higher, it's just lower margins.
This has never been shown to happen in the past when tax was higher or in countries where the tax rate is higher. Are you even trying to research these issues?
Also doesn't happen on any significant scale. And leaving so that you can pay less tax proves they didn't have any pride in the country in the first place. Also, those that leave were already taking advantage of the tax system as much as possible anyway so they could pay less % tax than regular people.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Either people are on wlefare or off it, theres no middle ground, you want people off it and not be dependant on it, you can read between the lines of what im saying i shouldnt need to explain every single point in fine detail. I havent got the time or the crayons to do so.
You want people off benefits and in work. That is grand, i want that too, it makes sense.
Regarding millionaires leaving. 16,500 have left in 2025, the steepest net outflow ever recorded for any country. Primarily due to the non-dom abolishion, but im sure there was a way to gentle ease a tax onto these millionaires and keep them. So you are wrong.
I mean that business owners wont take a wage, just reinvest it and live of loans like most tax avoidering successful people can do. So I will concede that I did not make that clear.
DrummingFish@reddit
I see the issue here. You don't understand what welfare encompasses. Welfare includes pensions, child benefit, universal credit, PIP and loads more. You're thinking about it as simply things like unemployment benefit. And universal credit has many factors in it too, which includes childcare benefits.
Actually resorting to insults. Classy.
And has taxes dropped significantly because of that?
It being reinvested is better than then taking it for themselves. That I'm okay with. The issue is hoarding wealth and millionaires not paying their fair share.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Pensions are fine. Its the other lsea of benefits people sponge off and cheat. This hurts actual people who need it. So more people off it frees up the money and resaurces to help those who actually need it. I worked around benefits fir a while and I promise you ever other claim has ADHD, Autism, depression and anxiety. The big 4 we joked. Not everyone needs the help, but everyone wants the extra money. Benefit fraud is insane.
Im glad you knew it was an insult, its about the only thing youve read clearly, but it seemed ok when you where trying insult my intellegence earlie, rule for thee but not for me I guess.
Ah yes, all these people that could be benefiting the system if we did it right are gone, but its ok because we tax everyone else a little more to make up the difference. Gobshite.
It being reinvested into assests like buildings, apartments, houses that they rent back to us at extortionate rates just to reinvest in more property and assest, acumulating more and leaving the working man with less.....makes sense.
Lexiosity@reddit
"defrauding women" he didn't though. Are you delusional? Polanski has said he doesn't believe he can grow someone's tits, you bellend.
Lexiosity@reddit
Also, even though Zack isn't an MP, he donates to charities all the time, and so does Hannah Spencer and Carla Denyer and so on.
Lexiosity@reddit
Which charities does Lowe donate his wages to? I presume his own charities, right? Because that's not real charity IF HE'S PAYING HIMSELF. Also, is there any evidence of him paying charities? Oh no there isn't, he's just saying it, without actually showing proof of such. And the only times he does, it's for popularity, not for actually fucking caring. Dumbass.
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
rupertlowe.co.uk/donations/ lists his momthly donations. Literally a 30 second google search. Just as a side note here, i shared a diffrent opinion than yours, I wasnt rude, mean or anything, and youve resorted to calling me a dumbass, 30 seconds it took to see what hes donating too.
Constant-Map7687@reddit
Just because you donate to charity doesn't make you a good person . Jimmy Saville raised millions for charity but was still (in the words of the NSPCC , I think) Britain's most predatory pedophile
Haunting-Piccolo9341@reddit
Sorry the other guy delete the comment, he asked for a source that rupert did that, i never claimed it made him a good person, just that he donates his wages to charity.
levezvosskinnyfists7@reddit
The Judean People’s Front vs the People’s Front of Judea
One_Million_Beers@reddit
Plenty of farmers are considering Restore Britain as well
DrummingFish@reddit
The guys who don't know how government, politics, or the economy works are just haphazardly saying they'll do things to support farmers with no actual policies and how they will achieve them? That's not a good thing, Jeremy. They're just saying things to get support. It's been proven that Reform don't know what to do once they're in power. They just say whatever they know can get support.
CryptoCantab@reddit
Does he say it is a good thing?
KeyJob3507@reddit
He was certainly with them when nigel was lying about the changes to the inheritance tax loophole
axe1970@reddit
a change to catch tax dodgers like him
MovingTarget2112@reddit
He is a Remainer so I very much doubt he could be pro-Farage. I think he’s a libertarian.
Time-Organization612@reddit
Clarkson has astoundingly been very vocal about how much he personal Dislikes Reform.
DrummingFish@reddit
Knowing his politics, it's implied.
vaska00762@reddit
Clarkson has already voiced his negative opinion of Reform. He likes the Greens more, somehow.
Downtown_Link_8651@reddit
The positive opinion of the Greens is somewhat surprising but negative on reform isn't. He's always been pro EU and anti Farage.
Beer-Milkshakes@reddit
He likes Greens to break the left wing vote.
Owster4@reddit
Greens operate differently in the countryside, don't they?
vaska00762@reddit
To an extent, yes. They're much more NIMBY in rural areas. They also canvass differently, but so does every party.
You can't decide to canvass voters in Liverpool like you'd do in London.
CryptoCantab@reddit
What, as a well known and vocal remainer?
Signal-Cell5980@reddit
turns out saying exactly what people want to hear is a pretty effective campaign strategy who knew.
Thaflash_la@reddit
The secret is to not concern yourself with delivering.
Lexiosity@reddit
Right wing populism is a major problem. At least with the Green Party, they actually dedicate to making these promises even the populist promises. The Green Party also support farmers and help everyone, even while not in power.
Clayyoda@reddit
You realise conservatives are right wing. The Green party will destroy the country with how naive they are.
Lexiosity@reddit
I'm aware conservatives are right wing, they too are populists. Green Party aren't naive, however, and nor will they destroy the country. You think they'll destroy the country because you'd rather the country be a toxic wasteland instead of being a green and beautiful nation. Why do you hate trees so much?
Clayyoda@reddit
I don't, but i'd rather have nuclear weapons than be defenceless against nation whodo have them. Polanski seriously thinks Putin will just listen to him lol
Lexiosity@reddit
You do know Polanski isn't a leader, right? He's a representative. The Green Party is a cooperative party, meaning that the members are in charge, not the leader. It's why we get to decide our policies instead of the leader. Tories have this as well. Reform doesn't though, neither does Labour or Restore. Learn how democratic parties work.
Zestyclose_Court5946@reddit
They haven't even been in power so how do you know they don't know what to do?
Give them a chance to prove themself worthless before you attack them, maybe just maybe they actually do know what to do.
DrummingFish@reddit
They have MPs and councillors. They have a terrible track record. So we in fact do know.
And we shouldn't just "give people a chance". They have to prove themselves beforehand. You don't just hand them the reigns to the entire country based on them yet having a chance to govern the country. I haven't been given a chance. Should I be made PM and trusted?
V_T_H@reddit
If only there was a certain party founder who has been around for a long time and used his power/influence to make Britain to do the stupidest thing it has done in a very long time before scurrying off and not deal with any of the negative consequences before reappearing to feast on the issues he helped create.
ExoatmosphericKill@reddit
That's every party right now, and ever.
selfinflatedforeskin@reddit
The ‘I hate the EU，oh shit we survived on their subsidies and labour’ lot？
Apatride@reddit
It is like saying that people who kick you out of your house are good people because they let you live in the shed rather than completely throw you out. Farmers did well before the EU and its subsidies, the main reason why they need the subsidies is because of the EU...
Qazernion@reddit
Reform will help farmers just like Trump has…. By bankrupting them quicker.
Wind-and-Waystones@reddit
Except the largest farming companies which can weather the costs, then allowing them to monopolise and buy up all the farms for pennies from the banks after foreclosures. They will help the largest farming corporations
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
He said they were popular with young farmers. You are twisting his words. Reform being popular with farmers is a fact despite the reasons you mention and you are jumping to conclusions. He didn't say it's a good thing did he?
Specialist-Driver550@reddit
Maybe they’ll rejoin the EU? That’d help the farmers.
kitty2299@reddit
Reform have never been in power so what proof is that?
theslootmary@reddit
So they don’t have 1000+ councillors and some MPs?
Potato-9@reddit
Their leader was an MEP with abysmal attendance. He barely went to work at all never mind did anything. That's not good stuff.
scuderia91@reddit
And now as an MP barely goes to work, either in parliament or in his constituency.
Hoaxtopia@reddit
They said they would put my council tax down and it's just gone up by £200. Farage has missed the last 77 votes in parliament because he's hiding until people stop looking at his expenses. They begged the Tories to take control of Redditch council even though they have more councilors because they have no idea how to run it. They lost Worcester after sacking the council leader because she raised tax by 10% after saying she wouldn't and bankrupted the council. They were that bad in Worcester that the Tories struck a deal with the Greens to save the council after Farage said he wish they "hadn't bothered" running there. They've scrapped net zero targets during the hottest May on record because their local elections were funded by fossil fuel industry execs. They've shut a record amount of care homes in the short time they've been in power.
We've seen what they do in power, and it's pretty fucking dire.
oh_f-f-s@reddit
Councillor Sarah Wood got up in front of an entire room of people and straight up said she didn't know what she was doing.
Another councillor wanted to initiate an investigation into UFOs
Multiple councillors have stood down either because a) they were dismissed, b) they resigned due to some mental comment, post it public statement they made, or c) realised being a councillor actually means more work than they thought.
If you suck at local politics, you're gonna be terrible at national level. Simple logical extrapolation
PluggyClip@reddit
Farage has skipped the last 77 parliamentary votes...
killarotten@reddit
Lots of the newly elected reform councillors saying out loud directly that they don't understand what's going on in councils or how to run them? Quitting all over the place because they didn't realise how much work it is?
DrummingFish@reddit
Their current track record with councils and areas they're on.
securinight@reddit
Is this the same farmers who also thought Brexit was a good idea?
If they didn't learn then, and if they help bring Reform in, they'll deserve no sympathy when Farage inevitably screws them over.
Fool me once....etc.
WP1PD@reddit
I live in a rural area and all the farmers bitched like fuck about every tory policy that was hurting them only to have 5+ vote tory signs per field when election time came around. Completely baffling
ExoatmosphericKill@reddit
5+ per field? Oh yes I believe this.. sounds realistic to me.
WP1PD@reddit
Never been in the countryside at election time? Every 100 yards along every 'A' road bordering the farms
ExoatmosphericKill@reddit
Mate I've lived in the countryside all my life and have never seen this.
shagssheep@reddit
Because they didn't trust labour and were very quickly proven right.im not saying the Tories were good but they never outright went for farmers they were just incompetent and fucked them over in that regard. Labour are also incompetent but have actively sought out policy that hurts farmers even ignoring the inheritance tax changes
WP1PD@reddit
Outside inheritance tax, what policy specifically hurts farmers? I believe labour could give farmers their Christmas list of policies and they would still vote for tories/reform based on my experience.
V_T_H@reddit
The UK and US really are cousins 🖤
WP1PD@reddit
I honestly just want one person to give me an answer, every single reddit thread about the UK has some mong saying 'labour is worse!!!' Ask for any reasoning behind this and you just get nothing back, like I'm interested in other people's opinions and reasons behind them, but i can't seem to get a single one of that crowd to give me the reasoning, are they bots? Are they just repeating what they read on Facebook? I have no idea
shagssheep@reddit
There is no actual evidence that farmers voted for brexit its just a myth perpetuated by people like you and media companies like theBBC who cant be arsed to actually fact check themselves.
The only evidence is from a farmers weekly poll done after the referendum that showed 55% of farmers voted for brexit but less than 1000 people responded and its print media which naturally attracts older people who were more inclined to vote for brexit.
If you consider the fact the average age of a farmer is 62 and then you take the only bit of "evidence" that I mentioned above farmers were actually more likely to vote remain than the average person in their age group. The major trend in brexit voters was that the older generations were far more for it than younger people and that massively throws off what little evidence there is
securinight@reddit
Username checks out
VanGroteKlasse@reddit
Somehow they blame the current government for all the red tape and changes in subsidies caused by the Brexit they voted for.
shagssheep@reddit
The level of red tape hasnt changed since Brexit the complaint is that it hasnt been reduced like they were told it would be.
To clarify I was entirely against brexit but I see no need to lie about things to back up points like youre doing
Party_Advantage_3733@reddit
That's not true, it's increased massively. Have you tried exporting anything to Europe or importing expensive goods? Twice as much admin now.
VanGroteKlasse@reddit
Then I take back the point about red tape, thanks for bringing it up, I wasn't wilfully trying to spread misinformation though.
Beer-Milkshakes@reddit
Inb4 the "they voted broadly with the rest of the nation"
Yes. Their unique perspective being a farmer was totally useless with regards to Brexit. They voted as all the other undereducated and over estimating masses.
Lexiosity@reddit
They also call Boris Johnson a leftie as well, which is hilarious considering that Boris was privatising everything. Leftists promote nationalisation.
TheGamingFennec@reddit
Farmers did not universally vote for brexit, their trend of voting was pretty similar to the area which they voted in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RuralUK/comments/1guvo2b/how_farmers_voted_for_brexit_versus_the_wider_uk/
DigbyDoesDallas@reddit
Linking something they overwhelmingly backed as to the reason in part to why they’re struggling?
That would require far too much self reflection, down with that sort of thing
canadianboi421@reddit
Farmers are known for being educated on politics and history and economics of course, surely they would have learned their lesson
/s just to be safe
Middi272@reddit
Reform haven’t once made policy statements or proven their effectiveness in anything and yet everyone glazes the fuck out of them… I am so confused by this.
detective-doge@reddit
He sounds like a politician himself lol he hasn’t explicitly condemned reform but if he cares about the environment which in turn would help his farm surely greens are the answer? I’ve always loved top gear but have a backbone will you
Fatkante@reddit
After shooting their own foot with Brexit the farmers are trying hard to shoot on their knees now .. voting reform . They aren’t the smartest people are they ?
Alarmed-Newspaper994@reddit
Seems to be a common thing with farmers everywhere. They vote for far-right and fuck themselves.
Clayyoda@reddit
Reform isn't far right, so it seems like the people calling farmers "uneducated" are actually the uneducated
Alarmed-Newspaper994@reddit
Where would you put them?
Clayyoda@reddit
They're in the middle of the right. It's not where I'd put them, its a fact they're in the middle of the right
Fatkante@reddit
Reform isn’t far right
Yes of course .. their councillors are caught red handed left right and centre in masses with social media posts supporting racism and xenophobia . One of them literally got swatika tattooed on him . But we can’t call them fat right lol .
SALTYP33T@reddit
Wow you got downvoted for that! American farmers have been doing this for years.
Lexiosity@reddit
Indeed they are not the smartest people. But that's expected when farmers keep to themselves and not speak to locals properly. Most farmers care about their business and not about the locals.
Good_Barnacle_2010@reddit
Politics aside. He does not look well.
HarioDinio@reddit
Mans was worried about being kirked and now calling for the death of people who checks notes litter.
TheHomersapien@reddit
I know exactly who Jeremy would vote for if he were American.
harshnoisebestnoise@reddit
Who would have guessed that young, uneducated, uncultured, sheltered farmers are fans of reform. Overwhelmed by generational idiocy, racism and tradition, they have no sense or care for the wider world or its community.
Clarkson thinks this government is shit just because of farming, yet fails to realise it is one of the most productive and active governments in two decades. Two decades of which Tories have stripped our land, businesses, hope, and solid it to the Middle East.
Reform will do the same but just to America and Russia.
ronstig22@reddit
Average Reddit comment. You’re sneering at ‘young, uneducated, uncultured farmers’ while claiming to be the enlightened, compassionate one. That isn’t intellectualism or concern for the wider world, it’s just simple class snobbery. You’ve reduced an entire group of working people to thick, backwards yokels because they don’t vote the way you’d like. You are exactly the kind of prejudiced, sheltered elitist you think you’re criticising.
vaska00762@reddit
These were the same sorts of farmers who voted Leave a decade ago, believing that the Common Agricultural Policy subsidies were the things holding them back from becoming rich.
Fishermen also believed the Common Fisheries Policy was killing them. Now they're a dying industry because Brits only eat cod, largely caught in the Atlantic, and all the British caught fish that used to sell to the EU can't be sold anymore.
shagssheep@reddit
There is no actual evidence that farmers voted for brexit its just a myth perpetuated by people like you and media companies like theBBC who cant be arsed to actually fact check themselves.
The only evidence is from a farmers weekly poll done after the referendum that showed 55% of farmers voted for brexit but less than 1000 people responded and its print media which naturally attracts older people who were more inclined to vote for brexit.
If you consider the fact the average age of a farmer is 62 and then you take the only bit of "evidence" that I mentioned above farmers were actually more likely to vote remain than the average person in their age group. The major trend in brexit voters was that the older generations were far more for it than younger people and that massively throws off what little evidence there is
vaska00762@reddit
I know anecdotally that farmers in my region did vote Leave, and their reasoning they gave was ridiculous.
The two issues they had, were to do with CAP, and then about food/live animal exports outside the EU.
In relation to CAP, while funding for it is determined by the European Commission, actual administration of it and payment was managed by either national or regional governments, which would apply additional environmental conditions on CAP.
For example, the regional government would say that the trimming of hedgerows was restricted to periods outside of bird nesting months. Many farmers would complain "some bureaucrat in Brussels is telling me how to run my farm". Arguing with them was useless - they'd already made their minds up about they thought CAP worked.
As for animal/food exports, they got very hateful of EU biosecurity rules. To prevent diseases from entering into the EU biosecurity area, the importation of live animals from some places required a huge amount of vetinarian inspection and cost associated with paperwork.
So, if a farmer wanted to bring in a new cattle breed, which was common to some other part of the world, they'd find it prohibitively expensive to get through the documentation.
Then they'd complain the continental Europeans "hated" them, because they didn't buy any of their meat or dairy. And that Brexit would let them "flourish" in selling lamb to New Zealand, beef to America, and dairy to Japan.
It was utterly unhinged behaviour. I ultimately stopped buying farm eggs locally after the farmer went on a tirade about "erasing the history of good men" after the council voted to rename a street named after a slave trader. Trying to explain selling slaves was not something "good men" did went over his head.
Personally, I live in an area where a lot of investigated rural crime occurs. Badger sets get dug up with excavators, and badgers illegally shot - police do nothing. Gorse and heathers get set alight and burn so much, they're uncontrolled "wild" fires - police do nothing.
But heaven forbid you need to prove the jersey cows you want to breed are checked to be healthy and disease free. That's "oppression of farming".
This sort of behaviour isn't limited to the UK.
Back in 2022, in the Netherlands, farmers outright rioted. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62335287
Dutch farmers put hay bales on roads and set them on fire, they started putting up upside down Dutch flags on the lamp posts, and they parked their tractors on the motorways.
Most urban Dutch people considered it to be borderline insurrection. The farmers then voted in high numbers for the far right party the next election, given they promised to abolish environmental regulations.
Earlier this year, in Ireland, the farmers almost went postal. https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0412/1567756-fuel-protests/
They protested largely over the cost of diesel, triggered by America bombing Iran. They blockaded the motorways, they pretty much conducted a siege of Ireland's only oil refinery, and also parked up in Dublin City Centre. But their demands were insane. Abolition of all fuel duty, abolition of all environmental legislation, and then the fringe groups who joined in, started calling for the deportation of Ukrainians from Ireland, and then the "prohibition of gay propaganda".
By the time the far right had joined into the blockades, the Irish Government got the Irish Defence Forces to bring out military engineering vehicles to tow tractors away, and immediately stated they'd only negotiate with the Farmer's Union.
There's enough evidence to suggest that farmers are now the targets of online disinformation campaigns to get them to act. Because whether it's France, Ireland, the Netherlands, or even seemingly the UK, where Clarkson is more than happy to be a figurehead, farmers seem easily convinced to start shutting down national infrastructure.
SheriffOfNothing@reddit
Is your belief that farmers did not vote en masse for Brexit or is it that there is insufficient evidence to support that point of view? There was certainly a lot of noise around it at the time.
Clayyoda@reddit
Why would young farmers be uneducated and uncultured
Jester-252@reddit
And people wonder why politics has become an us vs them affair.
Normal-Associate6788@reddit
Kinda hard to reach out to the other side when they don't learnt any lessons, Brexit was a mistake for farmers (if they even know that) and now they're going to vote for the exact same posh swindler thinking he's got any of their best interests in mind.
Jester-252@reddit
Another example of how bad it is gone if the idea of not calling an group of people uncultured fools is considered "reaching out"
Wgh555@reddit
Amazing the way people will talk about those who stop them from starving.
Jester-252@reddit
Wild that basic level of respect is considered reaching out.
Normal-Associate6788@reddit
Wasn't reaching out though was I? I've done my time convincing reform voters, every time I thought I was close, all it takes is Dave down the pub to tell em otherwise n they're right back to it again. Something more fundamental needs to change, ideally better funding and encouragement of the education system. Ideally make the system better suited for everyone, not just those that are good at memorising test answers.
-Top-Service-@reddit
Well I'd argue that a lot of farmers are alright, Clarkson and reform are more in the realm of landowners who call themselves farmers.
Labour is less insane than Tories or reform, but they are hardly a capable government, the fiscal rules nonsense, mandelson, Gaza, and just being generally useless doesn't make them a good government. Even on putting Palantir in to the NHS, what were they thinking, it's just the usual corporate backdoor.
Early_Alternative211@reddit
Sure, keep calling people stupid and racist, that's a good tactic.
harshnoisebestnoise@reddit
Lack of empathy is absolutely a telling sign that someone is stupid. Racism is stunted mentality and lack of culture.
s00pafly@reddit
I mean what are they gonna do? Be even more stupid and racist?
hoorahforsnakes@reddit
I'm sure i remember scenes from the first season of clarkson's farm where kaleb didn't even knoe the very basics of politics like who the prime minister was
jsvor@reddit
"president ricki"
AdAggressive9224@reddit
I'm a bit worried that Reform will be the end of farming, it'll all become about jacking up land values as much as possible by turning farms into a financial facility to avoid paying tax, there will be no point in producing food anymore as the rich will get richer and the poor won't have any money to buy food.
So, they'll just turn clarksons farm into a hunting lodge or a private estate.
MrboboCatman@reddit
Entertaining but bloody hell..
E_D_K_2@reddit
a venn diagram of fly tippers and reform voters is a circle.
fistchrist@reddit
The farmers who are whining they aren’t getting millions worth of tax breaks anymore are all voting for the party of flagrant tax dodging?
What a surprise.
IHatrMakingUsernames@reddit
I don't follow British politics. What's the American rough equivalent?
oh_f-f-s@reddit
MAGA is probably the closest I think.
Reform have a following that is closed minded to facts and quite xenophobic/racist.
Clayyoda@reddit
Pretty much the opposite. I see them speaking facts and the green party just straight lying on TV
BangingBaguette@reddit
The only caviet I'd add is that Reform voters at the very bare minimum largely miscontextualise existing issues, they're easily misled and thick enough to fall for basic propaganda....but the underlying issues are there.
MAGA are literally a cult of personality. While both Reform voters and MAGA are aligned on subjects of immigration, I don't see many Reform voters unironically calling Labour MPs 'deepstate' pedophile vampires and shit like that. Reform voters are willingly ignorant and aren't interested in anything that doesn't reaffirm what Farage tells them, MAGA are just straight up insane, like bordering on actual mental illness in many cases.
irnbrumagic26@reddit
Oh they definitely call them pedophiles. Some of the Facebook groups are horrific
Pure-Butterscotch200@reddit
While multiple Reform MPs have sexual assault or domestic violence cases against them. They don't really care about women or children.
BangingBaguette@reddit
Yeah but I'd argue that's the nutcase wing of the voter base that literally every party has. With MAGA it seems like the entire movement is made of those fringe extremists.
thenofootcanman@reddit
Maga was once considered the nutcase wing of the Republican party
MoneyAd5007@reddit
I would say that there is a caveat to your caveat in that the Trump press the UK gets focuses on the bonkers stuff. So, saying that all MAGA is deranged is as a consequence of that being all the cherrypicked pieces you see. Certainly the original appeal of MAGA is the same as Reform - a blend of rich people wanting to get richer, and poor people wanting to punish the middle class for ignoring them politically; but I wonder how the Working Class Reform voter will react to MAGA unravelling. It has been exposed that the US president is using his position to constantly enrich himself (despite being in his 80s and near death. How much money do you need in this period of your life?). And this constant enrichment comes at a cost. It is siphoned away from Government initiatives that can benefit the Working class. Its the opposite re-distribution of wealth that poor people voted for. I wonder if poor Reform voters visualise this is what will happen in the UK too.
SaluteMaestro@reddit
Just give it time.
oh_f-f-s@reddit
Fair point, but I'd say both parties are easily misled and thick. You have to be to support either Trump or Farage.
With the MAGA crowd, there is definitely a pride issue as well. I think a lot of them are probably aware Trump isn't a good guy, but you'll never hear them say it publicly because they'd have to admit they were wrong admit something
thesyldon@reddit
Farmers in the US have a stronger vote than normal US citizens. They all went full MAGA because of the promises Trump threw out. Because of the policies that Trump brought in they are going out of business and having to sell up. It is Trump's donor mates who own the companies who are buying this farm land up. The same will happen in the UP in poundland MAGA aka Reform ltd are voted into power1.
Clarkson btw is just a whinging wannabe tax dodger, who has had the tables turned on him. He was bragging a few years back that he could just buy a farm to avoid paying inheritance tax. Labour pulled the rug away on that scam. Farmers still get more leeway than the average joe when it comes to inheritance dues. But anything over £3m (£15m if unmarried) is considered excessive and you have to pay tax on it. For the average joe who doesn't own a farm, it is £1m (£500k if unmarried).
ngier88@reddit
Restore, to the right of Reform, wants ICE style mass deportations. Reform‘s policy is just closed borders
So based on that, I suppose Reform is somewhere around a maga-lite, and Restore is either maga or more extreme
One-Crew-7581@reddit
Incorrect. Reforms policy is also enforced deportation.
ngier88@reddit
Ok im sorry. what would you say is the difference? I am still pretty sure that Restore is more extreme
One-Crew-7581@reddit
Restore are generally more extreme yes. But they both have the same policy - enforced deportation. It's just that Reform haven't said how they'd do it, whilst Restore are already looking at constructing the camps, so hjey're just more upfront in their lunacy.
Surprise_Donut@reddit
it's MAGA, pretty sure Reform is backdoor funded by Musk
Wrong--Conclusions@reddit
Musk switched to Restore I think.
BottityBotAccount@reddit
They want to remove employment rights, reduce taxes for the wealthy and are buying votes by demonising immigrants. Farage does nothing for his constituents in Clacton , and regularly visits the States in the hope that Trump will one day adopt him. Musk thinks he's not nazi enough.
ItsAllGoneKongRong@reddit
The republicans with a less brain damaged leader.
Aparoon@reddit
Less brain damaged, which technically means more competently malicious rather than incompetently malicious I guess?
Freya_Galbraith@reddit
sadly yes
IHatrMakingUsernames@reddit
Okay, ty
dan_in_his_own_way@reddit
Don't Farmers rely on low paid migrants to do their work? I wouldn't be surprised if a big chunk were illegal immigrants doing cash in had work.
aelliott18@reddit
God damn can this guy just stfu and stop ruining his already tarnished image
thegrandtour-ModTeam@reddit
No hate
existentialjoe@reddit
It was his mate that created the referendum that caused this shit show.
Drowning_not_wavin@reddit
Invite thousands to your farm shop then moan about all the litter they leave on the way home, seems like a plan
Familiar-Bison-3124@reddit
Feel like as an adult / any reasonable human being you can be expected to visit a shop and not throw litter on the ground upon leaving. Can’t say I’ve ever driven home from Tesco just depositing wrappers along the way.
235iguy@reddit
Why is this fanny still pretending he's a farmer? Now he's basically supporting Nigel Farage?
As much as I enjoyed Top Gear this posh cunt is not a man of the people.
goingpt@reddit
It's almost like Reform are just telling certain demographics what they want to hear before they inevitably pull the rug from underneath them by saying 'oh the bloody labour lot stopped us doing it. Sorry chaps!'
Important_Ruin@reddit
Anyone going to tell the farmers which party has caused massive economic shocks to farming and loss of huge subsidiaries from the EU from their campaigning.
Who was the man who was shouting from the hill for the UK to leave the EU.
Mr '£5m' Farage
Guardsred70@reddit
It’s the same thing as here in the US: When there is sentiment that institutions don’t perform, you’ll get some weird populism. Best way to avoid populism is for institutions to perform and not be open to attack.
And sorta agree that something should be done to litterbugs. Obviously not shoot them in the head, but it’s so bad in my city. And 99% of it is from the homeless and near-homeless.
Fra5er@reddit
Jeremy proving once again hes an absolute spesh
UpsetStudent6062@reddit
Isnt that incitment to violence? Two years in jail? Or is it laws for thee but not for me?
jackblg@reddit
Old man yells at clouds
EggDangerous3032@reddit
Shoot all the litterbugs in the head and you'd have a lot fewer of those Reform voters you like Jeremy.
MrMakarov@reddit
Based on where ive seen large amounts of litter before, its not reform voters doing it.
unbelievablydull82@reddit
Litter bad, gas guzzling cars good, thank god he was being sarcastic
Plodderic@reddit
I enjoy the SNL UK “who wants to remain a millionaire” intro to his character: “fake farmer and real arsehole”.
mobsterer@reddit
old man yelling at clouds
belanaria@reddit
Is it me or does it sound like he is slurring his words?
Akemi_Tachibana@reddit
I want him for UN SecGen.
Charming-Parking7847@reddit
Eh being real id also say that if ppl littered my farm, tbh its a good thing its hiding in backroads
Primary_Dimension470@reddit
I agree. Death to the entitled tards throwing plastic in the ditches