What geographically specific area in the UK, has a disproportionate amount of talent in something?

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luala@reddit

We don’t talk enough about the amount of talent Hackney produces. Idris Elba, Paloma Faith, John Boyega, Alan Sugar. I think it helps that it’s in easy reach of industries such as music, film and theatre.

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Ziphoblat@reddit

Alan Sugar

😶

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Alibaba-1989@reddit

Yeah lost me there

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neilm1000@reddit

He is from Hackney.

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fartingbeagle@reddit

John Boyega, talent?

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SailAwayMatey@reddit

Carriages 😅

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adotg@reddit

John Boyega is proper Peckham and proud

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DJ_Beardsquirt@reddit

Norwich produces writers. From early stuff like Julian of Norwich to Sir Thomas Brown, who invented hundreds of words in the English language, to Robert Greene who mocked that upstart Shakespeare on his deathbed for being an uneducated upstart. Philip Pullman was born in Norwich, as well. Not to mention that king among poets, Alan Partridge, who penned the country's most beloved autobiography, Bouncing Back, in Norwich.

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MojoMomma76@reddit

North west has always out punched its weight in musicians. The Beatles, Oasis, Joy Division, Ride, the whole Madchester scene.

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Whulad@reddit

Bit of a wide area - and you don’t mention several better north western bands

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MojoMomma76@reddit

The north west is geographically specific as a region. OP didn’t specify a city

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gregd303@reddit

Yea but come on, Manchester is basically music land and has given us so much it could be its own region.

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TraditionalLog9445@reddit

Liverpool has produced more musicians. Especially successful ones.

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MojoMomma76@reddit

As someone from there (Manchester) I also respect Liverpool’s music game and believe we are better off treating ourselves as one united NW region.

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LFC90cat@reddit

The Smiths, Stone Roses, bit further up in Sheffield you have Arctic Monkeys

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youllbetheprince@reddit

Up?!!

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nuseht@reddit

Across*

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parasoralophus@reddit

Interesting choice to go with Ride over The Smiths.

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MojoMomma76@reddit

I have certain feelings about Morrissey. And they aren’t positive

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parasoralophus@reddit

Yeah he's a complete twat but difficult to deny The Smiths' musical legacy. I'm not even a fan really.

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SofaChillReview@reddit

Mainly known for their bangers, but they are good. Smiths were good though, as annoying as Morrissey was

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MojoMomma76@reddit

Tbf I was never a fan.

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sharon_bott@reddit

Ride are from Oxford but your point is still a good one!

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MojoMomma76@reddit

Fair point! I forget Ride are from the south

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Common_Reading_8058@reddit

was going to say that. Crazy the amount of legendary bands that come from there and are still starting out and getting big there.

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TraditionalLog9445@reddit

Birmingham has produced a silly amount of metal guitarists and just metal bands in general really.

These were all from the 60s to the 80s though. It's a different demographic now so I doubt we'll see any more.

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BOLTINGSINE@reddit

The entire country is shit at basketball and american football compared to other european countries

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Macrihanishautomatic@reddit

Scotland seems to produce a high number of footballers and football managers.

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youllbetheprince@reddit

And politicians

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inexplicably-hairy@reddit

What?

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Agitated_Nature_5977@reddit

He has a point. For a population of only 5 million they have produces an endless supply of world class players and managers. More Scots have won the English premier league than English managers have, for example.

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Logical_Bake_3108@reddit

It's weird how we make for great managers and yet the on the pitch performances at the national level leave a lot to be desired.

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RuneClash007@reddit

You either have your best players in the same position, or they come along just at slightly different intervals so they don't play at their peak together

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Logical_Bake_3108@reddit

True, it's also noticeable that a lot of the great Scottish managers had playing careers that were somewhat decent, but nothing to indicate how good their managerial success would be. Alex Ferguson is the biggest example of this. Actually it's not just Scots who do this to be honest.

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nint3njoe_2003@reddit

used to think alex ferguson was english for the longest time

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SofaChillReview@reddit

I’m assuming you didn’t hear Fergie’s voice?

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boostman@reddit

And musicians.

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thebyrned@reddit

Came to say snooker players

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jcollywobble@reddit

Northern Ireland and golfers

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ModJambo@reddit

Would say the Scottish Borders in general produce an unruly amount of good rugby players in comparison to the rest of the country.

I'm not into rugby but know that growing up all the best rugby boys teams were mostly in the Borders.

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Otocolobus_manul8@reddit

Its more working class there as opposed to the rest of Scotland.

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Nervous-Economy8119@reddit

Ah yeah, the famous middle class city of Glasgow..

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Bjornhattan@reddit

The areas where you'll find rugby support and kids playing it in large numbers will probably be middle class - indeed the rugby stadium is in the West End.

Whereas in the Borders, there's far less of a clear correlation. Melrose is the most middle class Borders town, Hawick the least... but they all seem to enjoy rugby equally and produce a lot of talent. An interesting side effect is the area underperforms in football (you'd expect either Gala or Hawick to have produced a scottish league side, but neither has... the nearest they came was applying to join in 1966) - I assume historically the sort of kids who might grow up playing football if they were from outwith the Borders end up playing rugby instead.

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Old-Brick8218@reddit

Hawick has also produced lots of jockeys.

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RhubarbSalty3588@reddit

On a similar note,the village of Bancyfelin,Carmarthenshire,Wales (Population 300).Has spawned 3 British and Irish lions players.

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thumbdumping@reddit

In his book Bounce: The Myth of Talent, Mathew Syed talks about how many of the top table tennis players in the UK - including him - all came from the same suburb. Something like 5 British champions from one small area in Reading.

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Agitated_Nature_5977@reddit

Aye but the best one came from Dunblane, Scotland. Freedooom! He could take them all on.

Sorry now just realised you said table tennis rather than tennis. I could stop and delete but I'm still writing...ah ill post it anyways. Amusing error.

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Not_A_Clue92@reddit

No, I would still delete. Even without the error it’s an incredibly embarrassing comment.

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Agitated_Nature_5977@reddit

Let your hair down mate it's a wee joke. Others seem to have enjoyed. It's important in life to admit your mistakes...I don't mind admitting mines.

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SofaChillReview@reddit

Bet that player from Dunblane used to play a lot of table tennis to be fair

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lawrence-of-aphasia@reddit

Matthew Syed, a former table tennis champion turned writer talks about this in his book Bounce. Basically, he came from somewhere (in Berkshire, I think?) where a heap of top table tennis came from. It narrows down to as small an area as a few streets or so. The reason was that there was a table tennis club there where kids played … and got good … and the coach was great… and so good kids played with excellent kids and became excellent kids, too… and yadda yadda in a virtuous circle. His book is really about how practice brings excellence, especially of course with other excellent practitioners. I forget the details of the first chapter, but he talks of how this small pocket of a town in the Home Counties or suburbia essentially dominated UK table tennis for years and years. (And perhaps it still does, I don’t know.)

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Annabelle_Sugarsweet@reddit

Macclesfield - joy division and new order.

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samworthy85@reddit

The mighty Macc Lads 🤘

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mmoonbelly@reddit

Walking past Sweaty Betty shops always makes me smile

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Grotbagsthewonderful@reddit

Sweaty Betty 🙃.

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Novacoda@reddit

Technically the same band -1?

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Srddrs@reddit

Loads of actors are from Hammersmith.

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ADHDJ86@reddit

Northern ireland has produced some of the the best motorcycle racers ine world, particularly road ravers.

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sanitarypotato@reddit

I use to be a road raver

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BalthazarOfTheOrions@reddit

Yorkshire has a very high concentration of Yorkshiremen and lasses. God's own country for a reason.

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Early_Enthusiasm_787@reddit

Only people from Yorkshire really care about Yorkshire.

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Any-Republic-4269@reddit

Nonsense! The whole world from Egypt to San Francisco spends all it's spare time wishing they were from, if they're lucky, Beverley

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hdhxuxufxufufiffif@reddit

Hence Eddie Murphy signing on to star in a film set there in the 1980s. He was devastated when Humberside County Council refused a filming permit and they had to change it at the last minute from Beverley Hull Cop to Beverly Hills Cop.

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Any-Republic-4269@reddit

It certainly was a factor in the huge public support for the reinstatement of the East Riding

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hdhxuxufxufufiffif@reddit

The fact that no one has ever thought to make a police procedural, fish-out-of-water comedy-drama, Happy Valley-style gritty drama or even a documentary or reality TV show called Beverley Hull Cop is an occasional source of amazement to me.

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lady_is_a_one@reddit

😂 A thousand apologies! How dare I??

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Any-Republic-4269@reddit

Are you from Lancashire

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Any-Republic-4269@reddit

Just checking

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lady_is_a_one@reddit

No honey - Yorkshire.

But no shade towards Lancashire :) some of my family moved to Manchester so can we be friends 🙈🥰🥰

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Sata1991@reddit

Don't they all wish they were from Lancashire?

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lady_is_a_one@reddit

Yeah 🤷‍♀️ that’s fair haha.

Where are you from?

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OkSun8521@reddit

I always forget that Yorkshire exist. Every so often, someone on Reddit pops up and reminds me not only that it is a real place, but that it's a place that people are proud of being from. To this day, none of them have ever been able to explain why.

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Substantial_Hour9500@reddit

Most of Yorkshire people don’t believe in God so the phrase God’s own country is even irritating to its inhabitants

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MercatorLondon@reddit

and Rome produced quite a large number of Romans.

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sharpied79@reddit

And bitter and flatcaps...

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lady_is_a_one@reddit

Yorkshire has a very high concentration of legends I think you meant 😜

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TheClnl@reddit

Strange way to spell tight arses

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lady_is_a_one@reddit

😂😂😂 Silly. I’d buy you a drink for that 😁

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BalthazarOfTheOrions@reddit

My apologies, I assumed that stating someone is from Yorkshire equals being a legend was obvious!

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lady_is_a_one@reddit

You know, people get it wrong 🤷‍♀️

😂😂 I just wanted to keep up the Yorkshire spirit, tha knows 😘

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Supergingeboy@reddit

Clydebank in Glasgow has produced John McGinn, Kevin Bridges, Marti Pellow of Wet Wet Wet, James Cosmo and Duncan Bannantyne.

Easterhouse in Glasgow also has Callum McGregor (football), Gary Lewis, Tommy Flanagan and snooker player Graeme Dott.

These are two historically very disadvantaged areas and I think that’s pretty decent.

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afcbJamie@reddit

Stoke on Trent has produced some of the best darts players of all time. Namely Phil Taylor and Adrian Lewis

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TonyM01@reddit

The greater Glasgow area has a massive amount of top level football managers.

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_just_drew_it_@reddit

Scotland and legendary football managers

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MercatorLondon@reddit

Cambridge and Oxford have a disproportionate concentration of scientific talent. What I'm trying to say is that expertise can be developed. For example, there is a town in Europe that built a whitewater canoeing facility and subsequently produced a disproportionately large number of talented whitewater kayakers.

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One-Writing-7860@reddit

Hmm, I think there's probably a fair amount of movement into those geographical areas TBF

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MercatorLondon@reddit

Not necessarily just movement. Cambridge and Oxford have a disproportionately high concentration of scientific talent. My point is that expertise is not only imported - it can be cultivated over generations. You attract certain kinds of people, create a culture that values a particular activity, and then allow that culture to persist.

Over time, the community develops a disproportionate amount of expertise. Many families in Oxford and Cambridge settled there generations ago, and their descendants continue to thrive at universities.

The same principle can be seen in sports: when a town builds facilities and develops a strong local culture around a sport, it can end up producing an unusually large number of elite athletes. There are not many skiers in Spain.

But this goes both ways. Deprived cities generate generations of deprived out of work families. And so it goes.

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One-Writing-7860@reddit

They have a disproportionate concentration of scientific talent because of the universities which attract talented people to study there who then stay...

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MercatorLondon@reddit

That is correct - I'm trying to say is that expertise can be developed.

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One-Writing-7860@reddit

I know what you're saying, but I don't think that's the reason for the situation in Cambridge or Oxford (from someone who used to work as a scientist at Oxford Uni and has worked as a scientist for over 20 years...)

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MercatorLondon@reddit

if you have two academics who settle down and having family there is a high probability that their children will be guided into the academic education as well. And so on. And because of that these high-paid professionals will overpay lower-earners away from the proximity of these universities.. It is that simple.

Social mobility goes both directions - deprived area would naturally push away anyone who can afford to leave and will suck in people on low incomes..

If you want a melting pot you have to permanently stir it. Otherwise it will separate like oil and water..

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One-Writing-7860@reddit

My Dad is an academic. Neither me nor my brother are in academia (although I am a scientist). I know plenty of scientists (including academics) who don't come from a background of academia at all.

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MercatorLondon@reddit

but do you know many snooker players or white-water kayakers?

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One-Writing-7860@reddit

You said 'Over time, the community develops a disproportionate amount of expertise. Many families in Oxford and Cambridge settled there generations ago, and their descendants continue to thrive at universities' and I was commenting on this because it's not the primary reason science and academia thrive in Oxford and Cambridge. You seem to imagine families of academics carrying on through the generations...it can happen, but it's not the majority of people working in science in Oxford or Cambridge and I know because I work in science (and have done for many years) and I've worked in academia and in Oxford and I have many links to people and organisations in Cambridge. I hope that clarifies.

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One-Writing-7860@reddit

And funnily enough, I know few snooker players...how many professional snooker players are there in the country? I do know plenty of accountants, care workers, nurses and people working in civil service....because they kind of make up a large proportion of jobs...

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jodeceii@reddit

Well it’s definitely not the South I can tell you that much…

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Stunning_Leading2705@reddit

Dunblane and tennis players

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1894mc@reddit

Manchester
Cradle of civilisation
End of

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Technical_Heron_6312@reddit

"And on the fifth day god created man(Chester)

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Direct-Question-6966@reddit

Oldham as alot of famous people some with actual talent

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Good-Animal-6430@reddit

Posh people who attend Eton school go on to prop up our gigantic overachievemrnt in Olympic sports that involve sitting down. Equestrian, rowing and sailing. Without them we'd never bother the top section of the medals table

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pmcfox@reddit

Native Watfordian here. We produced Geri Halliwell, Vinnie Jones, Bradley Walsh, Tim Lovejoy, Anthony Joshua and KSI - I can't think of anywhere that has managed to annoy the rest of the UK like this 👑

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Rude_Rhubarb1880@reddit

Farnworth near Bolton. A small town totally unknown by most people.

Unreal amount of footballers and comedians

20,000 people

About 40 professional footballers including a 1966 World Cup Winner

4 nationally famous comedians with their own TV shows and the actual location of the real Phoenix Club (a TV comedy series about a club in Bolton)

Comedians from Farnworth;

Hylda Baker

Peter Kay

Paddy McGuinnes

Diane Morgan (Philomena Cunk)

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AgnesBand@reddit

Scotland has a disporoportianate amount of talent in being Doctor Who.

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Expert-Pudding-7773@reddit

Oban in scotland has - Bob Macintyre, Magnus Bradbury and Suzi wolf (Stoddarrt)

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AbsolutelyWingingIt@reddit

Surrey for entitled dickheads?

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EllipsesAreDotDotDot@reddit

Guildford specifically

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ToeElectronic5033@reddit

that fella from the rhyl waltsers video who gets ‘6,7 shags a day easy’ and has ‘never had so much beaver’

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cregamon@reddit

Six seven 🤷‍♂️

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ToeElectronic5033@reddit

quiet child go watch the video

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Petethejakey_@reddit

Don’t forget Steve Robinson, Joe Cordina etc…

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Additional_Olive3318@reddit

Port Talbot — small enough place (30k) south Wales industrial town produced Michael Sheen, as well as Richard Burton and Anthony Hopkins.

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sergeantpinback@reddit

And Rob Brydon!

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Serious-Use4585@reddit

Reading - table tennis Olympic medalists

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spitw@reddit

matthew syed bounce. good book

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banwe11@reddit

Bolton is fairly unassuming place but has produced quite a few famous people - Peter Kay, Vernon Kay, Paddy McGuinness, Clive Myrie, Diane Morgan, Fred Dibnah...

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GruffScottishGuy@reddit

About half the teams in Formula 1 are based in relatively small area around the Silverstone circuit. That's an insane amount of engineering and technical talent in a very small area.

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Psweeting@reddit

Archers in Sherwood Forest.

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Playful-Lion5208@reddit

There's a street in swansea. Probably 40 houses or so but its produced 5 internationals in football. John Charles being the biggest name.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67451067

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Spare-Coat-160@reddit

thats an absurd amount of acting talent for one town somebody check the water there

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Playful-Lion5208@reddit

Drinking sulphur must be a cheat code to Hollywood

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Haveyoushatmyself@reddit

Bancyfelin in south west Wales.The village is known for producing international sporting stars despite having a population of only 300 or so people. Delme Thomas, Mike Phillips, Jonathan Davies, James 'Cubby' Davies and Charles Lynn Davies.

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skibbin@reddit

Wales and people named Davies

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Sata1991@reddit

Welsh surnames used to be patronymic, Davies came from ap Dafydd, meaning son of David. (F is said like the English V in Welsh)

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InevitableEar3485@reddit

Location - London

Talent - Stealing Phones

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WolfMuted1171@reddit

North East England producing many of England’s greatest ever footballers.

Bobby Charlton, Gazza, Shearer and Bryan Robson are the obvious ones but then there’s also Beardsley, Chris Waddle, Jack Charlton, Steve Bruce, Michael Carrick, Jordan Pickford and Colin Bell to name just a few more.

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tightloops1971@reddit

Steve Williams PE teacher Whitchurch High School Cardiff, coached; Gareth Bale: Professional footballer widely regarded as one of the greatest Welsh players of all time, Wales Record goalscorer famous for his illustrious spells at Tottenham Hotspur and Real Madrid where he won the champions League 5 times. Sam Warburton: Former Wales and British & Irish Lions rugby union captain, won the six nations twice ( and nearly the world cup ) Geraint Thomas: Professional cyclist, Olympic gold medalist, and 2018 Tour de France winner.

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GazOCee@reddit

Tommy Farr did not batter Joe Louis. There was zero controversy about that decision either at the time or subsequently

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TheNotSpecialOne@reddit

Wolverhampton and taxi drivers

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VisualNo8363@reddit

Reading has produced 10 UK champions in table tennis, a couple of commonwealth golds and some international champions. I think majority of them came from one road due proximity to a local table tennis club. See Matthew Syed book called Bounce.

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MercatorLondon@reddit

exaclty. Local expertise generates experts.
I remember some article about one school teacher who introduced some quirky sport and 20 years later all the champions in this sport were from 20mile diameter from this teacher..

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Kaurblimey@reddit

The North West + musicians

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InterestedObserver48@reddit

Northern Ireland, Golf

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OrangeBeast01@reddit

I'm sorry, but there's no argument that South Wales has produced the best boxers Britain has ever known.

Outside of Joe Calzaghe on your list, there are no world champions. Claiming Marciano because he boxed in the army while stationed in Swansea is a massive stretch.

This article is a good read (Wales performs average in comparison to the rest of the UK)

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HallowedAndHarrowed@reddit (OP)

Jimmy Wilde is all I need to say to that, a world champion, the best flyweight of all time and used to demolish people much larger than him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wilde

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Illustrious-Eye1673@reddit

I don't remember who said ir, Tom Jones on telly? Max Boyce at a live perfirmance?

But they said there were just 3 ways a lad could get out of Wales and make it. IDK the timeframe, maybe 60-70s?, They were:

1) Play your way out. 2) Fight your way out 3) Sing your way out

If anyone might know who said it, I would love to know. 🙏💕

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english_man_abroad@reddit

Wallsend Boys Club in North Tyneside has produced about 90 professional footballers.

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werbenuik@reddit

I come from Kent, which seems to have pretty much the opposite problem. Populous and historic area but we’ve got Kelly Holmes and that’s about it.

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CautiousAmount@reddit

Lizzie Yarnold, Chris Smalling. There’s quite a few

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RuneClash007@reddit

Also Dapo & Dire Mebude. Despite what Wiki says, they're from Chatham. I grew up with them!

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Rob_bob91@reddit

That is indeed literally a few

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RuneClash007@reddit

I can only speak for Football, but the funding just isn't there, as there isn't a top side with extensive scouting, so all the good players from Kent never amount to anything

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usernameinmail@reddit

You weren't kidding. Google summary lists very famous people. All were inspired or trained in Kent

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Jagermeister_UK@reddit

Liverpool for comedians and petty thieves

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shallowAlan@reddit

And stereotypes

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Various_Building_810@reddit

Wigan Metropolitan Area punches above it's weight in producing high level athletes.

UFC heavyweight champion, world class middle distance runners, cycling champions etc.

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Looking4DomTop@reddit

Rugby players too!

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l33yds@reddit

Who knew pies produced athletes.

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Ok_Adhesiveness_8637@reddit

Salads dont win scrums.

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PassiveTheme@reddit

In both codes!

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Ok-Bag3000@reddit

Scotland - Inventors

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Icy_Attention3413@reddit

My village of 1500 people I can’t name it because then I could be easily identified but it is packed full of authors.

They’re not self published, they are full-on popular book authors. We’ve got: a writer of well known children’s books, a guy who writes properly researched true crime books, a guy who writes academic text books, and then six people who have written well-received novels on the second world war, dragons and local history.

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Nels8192@reddit

Kings Lynn for formula 1 related things for some reason.

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TazTazTAZTazTaz_@reddit

George Russel & Martin Brundle are both from Kings Lynn.

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pickindim_kmet@reddit

I believe most of the best curlers in Britain are from Dumfries

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Evolutionary_u-turn@reddit

In the last few centuries my area produced a disproportionate share of the countries hops and they were considered the best in the world.

"Between 1600 and the 1970s, the area was a centre for growing hops and for the brewing industry."

We even had our own brewery and maltings until early/mid 1900s

It's all gone to shit now, of course.

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r_keel_esq@reddit

Birmingham and the surrounding area is ground zero for Hard Rock and Heavy Metal

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Early_Enthusiasm_787@reddit

South Londoners and footballers who played in cages as kids

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TazTazTAZTazTaz_@reddit

Croydon breeds footballers.

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minisixx@reddit

Redruth, in Cornwall, gave su two absolutely legendary electronic musicians with Aphex Twin and Luke Gilbert. It also gave us, outside of electronic music, Mick Fleetwood and Kristin Scott Thomas.

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captainfirestar@reddit

I'm guessing you mean Luke Vibert?

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Any-Republic-4269@reddit

Haworth, West Yorkshire has an unbeatable per capita amount of slightly gothic female Victorian novelists

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Common_Reading_8058@reddit

This should be the top answer

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Agitated_Nature_5977@reddit

Stirling for commonwealth and olympic swimmers

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Darkgreenbirdofprey@reddit

The UK generally punches far above its weight in sports.

We have stars and teams regularly competing at the top for football, cricket, rugby, golf, tennis, boxing, athletics, and almost every summer olympic sport.

It's one of the things we should be really proud of. There isn't a country with anywhere near that success. Even the USA and China who dominate at the Olympics are 3rd class teams when it comes to the biggest team sports in the world.

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Bunnynutkins@reddit

I think there are loads of great breweries in both Norfolk and Suffolk. We love our real ale.

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No-Cardiologist8433@reddit

South East London - Armed Robbers

Kent and Essex - Retired Armed Robbers

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West_Ad_6689@reddit

Some schools i.e. many famous alumni have attended Haverstock school for some reason.

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InitialRedv@reddit

Glasgow for top class Football Managers. Sir Alex, Stein, Walter Smith etc

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Springyardzon@reddit

Lancashire - comedians.

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bickles_cab@reddit

Johnny Vegas & Peter Kay as well

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Springyardzon@reddit

The list is massive. Victoria Wood, Dave Spikey.

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Low_Border_2231@reddit

Funny accent, that is why.

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Less-Information-256@reddit

The town of stone in Staffordshire has multiple Olympic medalists.

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iPhrase@reddit

westminster,

home to the nations most prolific & worst liars.

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testdasi@reddit

Politicians don't live in Westminster.

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spongey1865@reddit

Wolverhampton has just had a bit of time in the sun. A major winner and a lot of people on SNL UK are from there. 2 of the main cast and Tom Parry was the performance director.

Somerset has now produced 2 F1 world champions in Lando Norris and Jenson Button. Not bad going. Considering there's only been 9 world champions in the 21st century, 2 from a county of 500k people isn't bad going.

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Scotland - Whisky Distillers.

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Special-Audience-426@reddit

Miners from Cornwall too.

They used to say if you find a hole, you'll find a Cornishman in it.

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JuanitaMerkin@reddit

Essex - slappers, male and female

(I’m just joking I’m so sorry)

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