Are Slavs native to the Balkans?
Posted by samvarr@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 141 comments
Are Slavs actually native to the Balkans, or did they mainly arrive during the early medieval migrations? And who exactly lived there before them?
The Balkans seem to have always been a mix of peoples Illyrians, Thracians, Greeks, Romans, Celts, and later Turkic groups like the Avars and Bulgars before and during the Slavic migrations of the 6th–7th centuries. I also read that the Slavs were able to settle much deeper into the Balkans partly because the Turkic Avars weakened Byzantine control in the region.
How much of modern Balkan populations comes from Slavic settlers vs assimilation of earlier native Balkan peoples?
deepeddit@reddit
What in the pseudo science is this thread about?
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
They are, especially the modern-day ones. All Slavic nations still contain A LOT of Balkan non-Slavic DNA which means that we are also still descendants of those ancient groups. Not only genetically but also culturally btw, language isn’t everything.
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
All? Are you sure about that?
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
Yeah…
mission_whale@reddit
As Slavic I fully disagree you just made it up. Slavic can be darker when they are mixed with Turks that had wars/ occupied their territory, or in countries like Russia or Ukraine there are original Turk population like Chechens, Dagestanis, Tatars, Bashkirs... Russians are more likely to be mixed with Ugric peoples and with Scandinavians. The Balkans are much much darker than ordinary Slavs. It's just a fact. And their faces are different.
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
I really really doubt that
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
It’s okay, we all have opinions.
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Exactly. But I would say that’s true only for Balkan Slavs. For others like Czechs, Poles, Slovenians, Russians etc is not really true
ilijadwa@reddit
They would’ve only meant the Balkan Slavic nations, not Slavic nations in general
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Hmm he said ALL Slavic nations
New_Accident_4909@reddit
Within the context of conversation, seems like everyone got the memo except you :)
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Oh and what was the memo? Maybe I really didn’t get it, what to help me out?
New_Accident_4909@reddit
It was obvious he mentioned all Slavs in terms of conversation about Balkans implying he meant all Balcan Slavic peoples.
Haunting_Bicycle_253@reddit
Language and heritage is everything , but your speak Slavic so of course you say this 😅
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
What do you want to say with that?
Haunting_Bicycle_253@reddit
I say you are a Turkish tribe that started to speak Slavic , that's your Official History Buddy
Dangerously_69@reddit
Hey bud, the word Bulgar predates the word Turk and the country Bulgaria predates any Turkic country. So I say Turks are Bulgaric how about that?
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
Turks have this weird habit of calling everything Turkic even when themselves have barely any Turkic, let alone Bulgarians
samvarr@reddit (OP)
The original Bulgars were Turkic that’s indisputable. Obviously Bulgarians now are Slavs but that doesn’t change the root of the word Bulgar or the original Turkic steppe people that founded Bulgaria
And a big part of Anatolian Turks ancestry is definitely Turkic. Everyone in Turkey acknowledges that we descend from Native Anatolians that mixed with Turkic people
Mine
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
Yes Bulgar is a Turkic word and Bulgars were Turkic but I keep seeing Turks calling Bulgarians Turkic which is beyond ridiculous.
Your dna results are cool and clean but you hit the maximum limit of Turkic ancestry that is found in Turkey. Which is about what you scored, usually Turks get half of that. Where from Turkey are you?
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
0/10 ragebait
GravitysRelative@reddit
Ye half my family does not look like traditional slavs. They are dark skinned, dark hair, dark eyes. They definitely have paleo-Balkan DNA.
I somehow ended up looking like a Pollok.
Alone_Power_0@reddit
embrace whatever you got my friend
samvarr@reddit (OP)
That makes more sense. Didn’t think about the intermarriage / mixing point. Kind’ve like how Turks from Turkey have a majority Anatolian makeup with also a large Turkic complement
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
Also interesting: The Bulgarians in particular have their name from the Bulgars, who were steppe nomads and not Slavs. They created the country and then basically assimilated into the new Christian Balkan Slavic identity despite being the ruling class.
samvarr@reddit (OP)
Yup! Very cool part of Bulgarian history alot of Europeans don’t know about
scanfash@reddit
Most do funnily enough not have a “large” Turkic component (depending on what you consider large ig)
samvarr@reddit (OP)
The West of the country averages 20%-35% especially with specific groups like Yoruks and Manavs
Incvbvs666@reddit
Naaaah, they've 'only' been in the Balkans a little less than 1500 years! I mean, ridiculous... that's barely enough time to get a residence permit!
Mother-Astronaut8784@reddit
Hey Balkans belong to the people that lived here before the slavs, like 3000 years ago, whoever that might be at the give time.
Alone_Power_0@reddit
I, as a south slav, agree to that. Do we know anyone from that company? Are they now here with us?
Mother-Astronaut8784@reddit
Eh I hope not, there are some tribes but they're busy claiming another piece of land using the same premises, maybe we are next who knows
AST360@reddit
Welp, Turks are in Anatolia for around 1000 years, if you include Turcopol mercenaries it dates further near Slavs. Now go ask a Greek guy whether Turks are native to Anatolia. Don't forget to grab a popcorn beforehand.
figflashed@reddit
Ummmm… are you saying Turks are native to Anatolia?
Bilmemkineyapsam@reddit
Are you saying otherwise?
Melodic_Interview210@reddit
Are French natives to Gaul ? Are English natives to Britannia ?
Mustafa312@reddit
French yes with a some Germanic (Franks). English kind of (local Celts x Anglo-Saxon who migrated around the same time as the Slavs did ). The English are equivalent to most Balkan Slavs in terms of migrating to a new region and then assimilating and mixing with the local population. Albanians and Greeks are like the Irish, Scotch,and Welsh.
Alone_Power_0@reddit
it's always that someone has timeline boundaries. even the ones you mentioned, are almost all from different period of history
DardanianGOD@reddit
They are nowadays, but they need to understand others were here first and others aka Albanians and Greeks are actually natives.
35BCx1405AD@reddit
I say this is an Albanian patriot.
Slavic people do not need to justify their existence for the past 1400 years by claiming “paleo-Balkan DNA”.
It’s almost ridiculous to question if they are native or not.
The real problem is that Chetnik propaganda calls Albanians Turkish mercenary leftovers that must be eradicated.
And then from this conversation, we Albanians will tell you to fuck off because at this point it’s genetically proven we are, the politically correct term is,
“paleo-Balkan”
I mean seriously in 2012 you guys were calling us fucking Chechens, in a serious matter.
Now it’s fun watching some of you more hard-core guys sweating and squirming.
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
Listen my friend. It might be 1400 years ago, but the region of Balkans has a documented written history for much longer. Balkans are not some region with vague ancient history and unknown people like Eastern Europe where Slavs originate from. There were already long established advanced civilizations in Balkans before Slavs arrived. The word “native” has a meaning and significance historically, and no historian and archeologist would call Slavs native to the Balkans
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
No they weren’t, the illyrians didn’t even leave a single coherent page behind, I am not sure if ur trolling or we have a different understanding of advanced civilizations.
I wonder what the Balkans would look like if Croats went with the Illyrian theory and claimed to be the actual OG Balkans
BandAdditional6084@reddit
Because there was no such people called "Ilyrians".
Romans lived here, its clear and without doubt. They had multiple legions here and balkan lands were given to roman retired legionares (todays Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia)
Then they disapeared due to invasion from east. After invaders destroyed everything, a huge portion of Slavs and Germans populated area. There was still some native people but mostly in secluded mountain pockets.
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
Yes Illyrians didn’t but Greeks and Romans did. So paleo-balkan people as we call them have been documented long before Slavs arrived. And by the time Slavs arrived, the actual “natives” were part of Roman Empire. Albanians and Greeks have direct continuity with the ancient Paleo-Balkan people. The South Slavs don’t
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
Neither do Albanians, there is no cultural continuity.
You don’t introduce urself as Illyrian, and illyrians were servants of the Roman Empire while Greeks and their culture influenced it massively even after their loss.
35BCx1405AD@reddit
LANGUAGE ALONE.
Listen, I know a lot of people are sweating and squirming, especially since foreign academics. Who have nothing to do with the Balkans and only want to be pioneers and celebrated researchers, are doing much of the work for us.
As for “introductions, when Skanderbeg mentions how we fought under Alexander the Great, in I guess, from the Slavic perspective, infamous letter to the prince of Toronto. i’m not really interested in playing this game anymore.
We are clearly the direct descends, genetically linguistically, and culturally “Paleo Balkan”.
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
Was skanderbeg Macedonian ? /s
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
So you rely for ur claim on continuity on foreign academics who only interpret the word of ancient Greeks/romans. Don’t you understand how silly this is ?
and there is no cultural continuity for Albanians to ancient times or can u elaborate?
Few-Deal-1513@reddit
I'm not Balkan. I've never heard the theory that Albanians were Chechens imported by Turks as mercenaries. Who spread this idea and when?
35BCx1405AD@reddit
If you’re western European, then it makes perfect sense why you wouldn’t know. Hahahahahahhaa. Thanks for splitting up the country and leaving us with them.
If you’re an eastern European Slav, why would you give a shit about what your cousin’s down south have been doing to us.
If you’re not European at all. The serbs consider Kosovo, their own land.
If Albanian are Illyrian and therefore native to Kosovo, then it becomes a huge problem to their claims.
If Albanians are “spice traders from Tajikistan”, then it’s just another “empire” for the glorious crusaders of Europe, to over come.
InformalSea1243@reddit
Ye Serbian here, haven't heard it either.
GravitysRelative@reddit
It's such a stupid theory. Albanians speak a completely unique language that is obviously native to the Balkans.
ilijadwa@reddit
Both Balkan Slavs and Albanians have paleo-Balkan DNA. Albanians just have more. That’s it.
35BCx1405AD@reddit
Yeah, I know that’s where the phase 2 part of it, comes into play now.
NO YOU HAVE AND I HAVE AND WE HAVE AND EVERYONE HAS ILLYRIAN DNA SO PLEASE DONT BE SPECIAL
WE ARE ALL MIXED
Ya we are the origins of your “mixed dna buddy”
LegioXI89@reddit
If you mean people living in nations like Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia etc yes definitely, for the ex yu nationns it's pretty much 30% - 40% slavs, 30% illyrians and bunch of others
Haunting_Bicycle_253@reddit
60% Slavs , and 15% native , don't lie
LegioXI89@reddit
I'm not lying, for ex yu its pretty much little above 30% slavs and 30% illyrians
Haunting_Bicycle_253@reddit
Not according to a simple google search
Genetic studies indicate that Serbs have approximately 50% to 60%
LegioXI89@reddit
Can you share your Google search
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
So are you Slavs with native influence, or natives with Slavic influence? 🤣
LegioXI89@reddit
Mix of slavs and people living here long before slavic migrations, so illyrians, thracians etc as research shows
New_Accident_4909@reddit
I2a ia Slavic and came with Slavic migration which ia exactly why the whole "native" debate is an insult to critical thought.
LegioXI89@reddit
You did read this?
New_Accident_4909@reddit
It has been widely accepted that I2a has been presen in Carpathian region and was introduced to Balkans with Slavic migration.
I am a Serb and i have that haplogroup, the findings and theories change with time as more evidence gets presented so older theories about it being an Illyrian haplogroup don't hold water anymore.
LegioXI89@reddit
So decades of scientific research are in wrong but you are right because you..said so? It clearly said that I2a is native and you just claiming exactly opposite?
Ex yu people are mix of natives and slavs, that's it, no need for further discussion
New_Accident_4909@reddit
Yes, you are representative of decades of scientific research and I am a baseless hack because your opinion is right and mine is wrong
A Genetic History of the Balkans from Roman Frontier to Slavic Migrations (Cell, 2023)
Ancient DNA Connects Large-Scale Migration with the Spread of Slavs (Nature, 2025)
Utevska et al. (2017)"The phylogeography of Y-chromosome haplogroup I2a-Din"
Pamjav et al. (2019)"A rapid spread of haplogroup I2a-Din among Slavic populations"
I2a is definitely haplogroup that has been in Balkans since Ice age, what you fail to understand that specific branches of I2a that belong to Dinaric South & North which is like 90% of the branches of I2a in south Slavs are believed to originate north of Balkans in Carpathian region (modern day Ukraine)
LegioXI89@reddit
Ok so we are on the same page
theredcometofakagi@reddit
My understanding is that Slavs migrated into the Balkans in the 7th century, so technically you could say they are not native, but they have intermixed with the native population to the extent that they have become native.
User20242024@reddit
Main Y-DNA haplogroup among Balkan Slavs is I, which is of Cro-Magnon origin, so we are direct descentants of earliest Homo Sapiens who lived in Europe.
New_Accident_4909@reddit
And favorite self declared native nations haplogroup was still in Horn of Africa.
Fine-Ear-8103@reddit
Ofc they’re native by now, the only modern descendants of the Balkan ancients are Albanians and Greeks but even we have some Slavic dna in us genetically and all the south Slavs have some paleo-Balkan dna in their genetics as well.
Melodic_Interview210@reddit
Albanian nationalists with Temu history commonly ignore the fact that lot of Europe's ethnicities bear the name of some tribe that conquered them during Late middle age/Early antiquity while being genetically and culturally largely native. French, English, Lombards, Swabians, Burgundians, Hungarians etc.
The more retarded evolution is when they start claiming Modern Greeks aren't native from Balkans, or that Croats are a native fellow Illyrian people (as opposed to Serbs)
Top_Veterinarian1446@reddit
Most Balkan peoples are largely native to the region, just as Hungarians are native to their own area. The difference between you and peoples like Albanians or Greeks is that you adopted the language of the invaders and, over time, part of their culture as well.
nimbuschingus@reddit
Wait until your hear about the serbian nationalists with temu history talk about where albanians come from
QuietWaterBreaksRock@reddit
Even Ex-Yu Slavs have majority local Balkan DNA. Iirc for Serbs there was a study which showed about 60:40% divide of Balkan:Slavic genes (a few percent of 'others' but those are basically a marginal error)
Fine-Ear-8103@reddit
Ex yugo Slavs aren’t majority paleo-Balkan they’re 40-60% Slav and maybe 20-30% paleo-Balkan but regardless the point still stands.
deviendrais@reddit
What if one Serb from the south has majority paleo-Balkan DNA and one from the north has majority central/eastern European DNA? How do we decide then if Serbia as a nation can call itself "native" to the Balkans?
Fine-Ear-8103@reddit
We don’t, they’re already native as I’ve already stated. Slavs arrived to the balkans 1500 years ago and assimilated whatever locals they came across so I wouldn’t consider a modern serb as not being native to the balkans he certainly is. But culturally and linguistically they are Slavic and that isn’t native to the balkans that was brought here and I think that’s where this convo will get confused in the comments.
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Slovenians don’t. But then again, they aren’t Balkan.
QuietWaterBreaksRock@reddit
Neither do Egyptians, even tho they aren't Balkan as well!
Although somehow the pyramids are Serbian, go figure!
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Slovenians have it barely
Dave_meth_Mustard@reddit
There’s no such thing as “native people” in any meaningful way.
Extension_Coffee_bar@reddit
Please start a conversation with native Americans and watch what happens.
Meowmeowmeow31@reddit
There’s a pretty big difference between the Americas and Australia/Oceania, where there is a distinct before/after date where people from other continents arrived, and Europe, Asia, and Africa.
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
There is a before and after point in Balkans too, before and after Slavs arrived
Extension_Coffee_bar@reddit
So that you agree "native" is meaningfull.
Primary_Reserve_2815@reddit
I married a Bulgarian woman..her family looked down on other cultures..Meanwhile they all used different names to Americanize themselves and were the most low class immigrants people I ever knew ..but the father was always like “I don’t like black people” lol meanwhile the “black people” I knew were more educated and had class..they brought their low class Eastern European views to America and thought they were like other “white” people lol ..but they weren’t they were “the other European”
New_Accident_4909@reddit
One of the main South-Slavic haplos has bewn in Europe a lot longer than "Balkan native" haplogroup.
Concept of native in Europe is genuinely retarded as human migrations were constant.
BrandNewTory@reddit
There is actually a firm answer due to widespread worldwide genetic surveys. Ask your preferred chatbot to summarize balkan haplogroup research, or go into it yourself here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe
TLDR: The Plague of Justinian killed half the population of the Balkans in the mid 500s, and massive migrations of Slavs moved in, eventually integrating with the existing populations of Illyryans, Thracians and Dacians who themselves were largely the same people. Most Balkanites are 40-60% slav, the further south you go, the less Slavic it gets, but even mainland Greek are like 15-20% slav. Differences are all cultural, religious, and linguistic not genetic, we're all the same people.
Tired_clock410@reddit
Honestly ,I don't care. I was born here ,i have been here for 30+ years now so...I am native to the Balkans.
Stverghame@reddit
What do you consider native?
Being here for a long time here? Absolutely native, just like all the other non-Slavic people in the Balkans.
Being here from the beginning of time? Absolutely not native, just like all the other non-Slavic people in the Balkans.
Balkan Slavs are both genetically and culturally both Slavic and whichever populations were here before Slavic migration. Those that yell "gO bAcK tO rUsSiA" have 0 clues about history, 0 clues about Slavic migration (most Slavs never were in Russia lol) and 0 sense of a healthy mind.
PomegranateOk2600@reddit
I mean, greeks and romanians claim to be here since the indo europeans migrated in europe
PlayfulMountain6@reddit
Albanian language is paleo balkanic while romanian is latin. So should be probably romanians too
deviendrais@reddit
atp "native to the Balkans" is just a cooler way to say "non-Slavic"
Dave_meth_Mustard@reddit
The Indo-Europeans weren’t the first to migrate to Europe
Stverghame@reddit
I'll refrain from commenting further as people like you are generally the reason I made my initial comment to begin with.
Better-Telephone-789@reddit
we were the first ilegal imigrants that take others people jobs
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
Ofc they are native by now, no ethnic group did manage to be born out of the soil they inhabite today.
Can’t wait for the Illyrian warrior posters.
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
They are not native, they are not part of the paleo Balkan people. It’s a clear question with an obvious and clear answer.
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
South Slavs trying to convince themselves that they are Thracians, Illyrians and Paeonians 🤣🤣 Embrace your Slavic culture. Genetically you’re about half Slavic, culturally and linguistically you’re Slavic again. Slavs are pretty cool but not native to Balkans
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
And culturally we are the same as all Balkaners and puke when we see Polish and Russian food…
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
Most Balkaners are Slavs by this point. Only Albanians and Greeks are not in the Slavic category and I don’t see much difference culturally between south Slavs and the rest of Slavs to be honest. Food can be different because of the weather and different geographical proximity
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
This must be a joke right ? Greeks have undisputed cultural continuity, they find their roots in their writings, culture and ancient ruins. Anybody can through that reflect onto the past and today.
Illyrian’s didn’t manage to write and leave a single coherent page behind so I am not sure if you guys are just trolling big time with this theory.
You are just very ignorant.
iwantpizzaandyou@reddit
With that logic one may even dare say that Albanians and Greeks are Slavs larping as extinct ancient civilisation. You are different in literally nothing as cultures from the rest of us…
pdonchev@reddit
Paleo Balkan speakers were also not native. They camemfrom the Pontic steppe aafter 2000 BC. That's nothing comoared to the Balkans being poop populated continuously since 40000 BC.
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
Ofc they are native, don’t be silly. It’s been a while since 6-7 ac.
Stverghame@reddit
nimbuschingus@reddit
Slavs are not native in the balkans, that’s a well known fact.
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
They are, did Albanians grew out of the Balkan soil like plants ?
SerbianMonies@reddit
That's what the term autochthonous literally means lol. Some nationalists took a term out of Greek mythology about people literally arising out of the ground to describe their people
AogamiBunka@reddit
Africa
Prior_Complaint3991@reddit
Nope , they are migrant and refugees from Ukraine
determine96@reddit
Idk, how much native DNA Slavic Balkan populatios have.
I have seen especially on the internet some research pointing out that they have a significant amount.
But few days ago I have watched a Bulgarian historian (he is recognized as such and he doesn't have visible pseudo takes by my opinion) and he touched this subject and said that there isn't much actually in the Bulgarian population and he mentioned also some research that most of Bulgarians have mostly Slavic DNA in them and he also backed this claim by saying that the Romans dispersed big amount of Tracians after the conquest and how after that they were further pushed out by the constant invasions by the Huns, Avars, Slavs etc.
So, Idk which source to trust, plus I don't care that much to be honest.
ilijadwa@reddit
Historian does not equal population genetics though, ultimately the genetics serves as the ultimate evidence and it’s pretty clear that Bulgarians have a substantial component of paleo balkan DNA
casual_philosopher02@reddit
I mean even Greeks came from Anatolia and mixed with the locals... Slavs did the same, it just is more recent in history . Anyway point is that we all came drom somewhere, we don't need to prove locality to be worthy Balkaners
pdonchev@reddit
Greeks came form the North, with the rest of the Indo-European speakers, not from Anatolia. Otherwise I yes. If we decide to call the fisrt people that came into empty land "native", that was 40000 years ago, those were the Paleolithic hunter gatherers. They were culturally replaced likely a dozen of times by different hunter gatherers, then by a few waves of neolithic farmers from Anatolia and middle east, then by several waves of Indo-Europeans and various others steppe tribes from the North. They all left their DNA. The languages that survived were Indo-European, because Indo-Europeans combined several technological advantages to conquer a huge part of of Eurasia.
samvarr@reddit (OP)
Greeks didn’t come from Anatolia tbh the Mycenaeans came from mainland Greece and the Aegean islands. That’s more where the Greek identity developed
casual_philosopher02@reddit
Mycenaeans formed from the migration of people of the east Eurasian steppes and the paleobalkan people though. So we were not always local too!
samvarr@reddit (OP)
Yeah but I’m talking about where the actual Greek identity itself developed which wasn’t in Anatolia or in the East Eurasian steppes
casual_philosopher02@reddit
I edited my comment to include my answer to that too, we can't pick and choose
zpetar@reddit
Majority of Balkans ancestry is not of Slavic origin.
Haunting_Bicycle_253@reddit
Nope , majority is Slavic as is your Slavic language
zpetar@reddit
Language has nothing to do with DNA ancestry. It's all about one group of people dominating and assimilating other group.
In Hungry relatively small group of people managed to be dominant. Realistically their DNA is not much different than Croatian, Serbian, Romanian.
In Bulgaria it was different story. Bulgar Turkic were not dominant enough and eventually they got assimilated by Slavs together with other native Balkan groups
Haunting_Bicycle_253@reddit
Dude we share 98% DNA with Gorillas . Language and Heritage is Everything.
Lucifer_893@reddit
Don’t give in to this stupid discourse. They’re always trying to insinuate that no-one is native to nowhere, so you have to accept infinite immigration.
Pelya1@reddit
Yes. They were here long before Neanderthals and even before homo erectuses
pdonchev@reddit
None of these langauge groups are native to the Balkans historically - they are all brought by migrants from the last 4000 years. The Balkans have been populated for 40000.
not-sib@reddit
My uninformed opinion: slavs aren't native to the balkans. But modern-day balkaners are ancient Balkan peoples who fell under different influences due to migrations and conquering. We are extremely similar to each other, just speak different languages. I'd love to hear a more informed opinion from someone who's read more about the topic
Early-Show2886@reddit
Thee three types of turks from ada kaleh, i think the rich man in the middle is of slavic origin, while right is a poor turk, the right man is sure a gypsy
Early-Show2886@reddit
Early-Show2886@reddit
Early-Show2886@reddit
alecpu@reddit
its really hard to tell, but slavs are not native to the Balkans, they started settling around the split of the Roman empire and later there were bigger invasions
Inevitable_Motor_685@reddit
Slavs technically arent. But the groups in the region carry Thracian DNA and cluster w original Balkan groups to an extent
CataphractBunny@reddit
Slavs are not native to the Balkans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Slavs
Melodic_Interview210@reddit
Nah there is a real Albanian racism against Slavs and Greeks that exist and is alimented largely by itself since the war has been over for years.
a_bright_knight@reddit
there are no "native nations" on balkans. All balkan people speak a proto indo european language, therefore all of our origins are from the eastern euroepan steppes
CompleteAnimal4606@reddit
No they arent,they came here in the 6th century.
TurkOmbre@reddit
If Turks aren’t nativ so the Slavs either
Present-Ebb4615@reddit
Not native. They should be sent back to Siberia, they aren't truly autochtonous /s
nimbuschingus@reddit
Slavs are not native in the balkans, that’s a well known fact.