SkyWest ALPA Update: A Fresh Start
Posted by ALPASkywest@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 44 comments
Many of you have probably noticed that the SkyWest ALPA effort has been relatively quiet over the past several months. During that time, the organizing effort underwent a transition in leadership and took the opportunity to reassess how we move forward.
Today, a new team is leading the campaign, and we are essentially rebuilding from the ground up. The only pilot information retained is information that was voluntarily submitted through our website, and that information is safeguarded by ALPA under the same standards and protections used for more than 80,000 ALPA-represented pilots across the industry.
We understand that some pilots may have questions about where the effort stands today. What we can say is that the current team is committed to transparency, professionalism, and earning the trust of our pilot group every step of the way.
While momentum may have slowed, the level of interest shown by SkyWest pilots last year demonstrated that many of us care deeply about having a stronger voice in our future. That interest didn’t disappear. The issues that prompted pilots to engage in the conversation remain important, and many pilots continue to believe those conversations are worth having.
This effort is not about the past. It’s about the future of our pilot group and ensuring that every pilot has access to accurate information and an opportunity to make an informed decision about representation.
Whether you’re supportive of ALPA, opposed to ALPA, or still undecided, we welcome respectful discussion and encourage everyone to evaluate the effort based on the facts, the current leadership team, and the vision moving forward.
We’re excited to be back, to reconnect with the pilot group, and to continue building momentum together. If you are a SkyWest pilot interested in learning more or registering your interest, please visit our website at skw.alpa.org.
Foreign_Kick1790@reddit
Anyone at SkyWest who opposes a union are an extremely small group of people. 90% of people I fly with would vote yes.
DeltaTule@reddit
And OO management knows that. Hence why it hasn’t come to a vote yet.
DeltaTule@reddit
OO management is scared shitless and they are not afraid to play dirty as evidenced by the guys who they fired for “illegally accessing” employee addresses. Which was just for the union drive.
Nasty, dirty company. And to all their pilots who are anti union: FUCK YOU. At my major we had OO guys in class and they were openly mad about being at an ALPA carrier. Made me sick to my stomach.
Imaginary_Amoeba3461@reddit
We had a fair amount of ex SkyWest at my legacy and I don’t remember anything like that.
I’m also former OO but I’ve been at 2 ALPA carriers since. If anything my time there made me more pro union. Plenty of stories about guys being fired for things that were completely outside their control then unfired, etc. I also had a fatigue call, related to activities at work that I didn’t get paid for. That was fairly common unfortunately.
SatisfactionVisual86@reddit
This.
It takes getting burned for these idiots to realize they need a union unfortunately.
hawker1172@reddit
Union or non union your behavior, language, and insults is unbecoming of the good moral character expected of an ATP.
DeltaTule@reddit
The upvotes seem to disagree with your assessment. Non union pilots are only marginally better than scabs. Goes scabs then non-union pilots. They’re a blight on this industry.
hawker1172@reddit
So everyone who worked for SkyWest to advance their careers is a SCAB in your eyes? I doubt you went around saying f you to everyone in your class since you weren’t hiding behind an anonymous profile online.
DeltaTule@reddit
Uhh no? I did used to believe that though, but I’ve since changed to what my comment said that you misread. It goes scabs ——> non-union pilots
hawker1172@reddit
How about just pilots? That’s very arrogant and naive of you to blame the thousands of CFIs right now who can’t get a job for working for SkyWest.
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
Nah fuck those guys. If you're making legacy money and you're incapable of comprehending the role a union plays in that, I'm not going to be sympathetic.
hawker1172@reddit
It’s not sympathy it’s just respect you aren’t saying f you to people face to face youre hiding behind a keyboard and anonymous profile.
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
Well I have no idea where that second paragraph came from. But since you seem to like sweeping generalizations based on nothing, you guys who continually give excuses to non-union management groups are just as bad as the management themselves.
I'm not one of the assholes who will deny a jumpseat to a Skywest pilot or anything like that. But if you're going to look me in the eye and tell me you'd be better off without union representation, then yeah my distaste is going to extend from beyond just my keyboard and I'd be glad to tell you to your face why you're an idiot.
encees@reddit
Sounds like you’d take a “deal” from Frankie Lorenzo.
hawker1172@reddit
My comment had nothing to do with supporting or not supporting unionization.
LookoutBel0w@reddit
Good morals require intelligence which anti union pilots don’t have
hawker1172@reddit
Morals might require some level of intelligence but there’s certainly intelligence without morals. You guys might have some of that. Doubt any of you are taking the personal insults far beyond your anonymous keyboards.
tailwheel307@reddit
Did that guy know that he didn’t HAVE to accept a job offer from a unionized airline?
DeltaTule@reddit
It’s a better airline. They don’t seem to understand the correlation between that and the union except, “UnIoN bAd, UnIoN TaKe My MoNeY.”
tailwheel307@reddit
Sounds like a lot of trades that make tons of money in unionized positions but have the same gripes about being in a union.
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
Can't wait for it to continue going nowhere because the mormons would rather self immolate than allow a union on property, and there are way too many dipshits in the pilot group who don't understand why it matters.
Headoutdaplane@reddit
Did you mean to write mormons or was it supposed to be morons?
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
I meant what I wrote, yes.
Headoutdaplane@reddit
Does the church own sky West?
ChopAndDrop27@reddit
The LDS Church does not own SkyWest. However, the CEO is a cricket stomper.
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
Skywest management is known to lean on faith as a reason to continually fuck over their work groups, and the state of Utah's court system doesn't give a shit for related reasons.
Headoutdaplane@reddit
Til
827020@reddit
The difference nowadays is that so many young pilots have signed on for a 5-year contract. At least, I hope that makes a difference.
No matter how unlikely/difficult it may seem, I still support any and all efforts to pull this airline out of the dark ages
CrabMan_2@reddit
Hey hey. Give them a chance to soak on it.
f1racer328@reddit
Can I shake the bed for them?
homeinthesky@reddit
Sheesh, who’s gonna miss the opportunity to jump on this one?
throwaway_tiredcap@reddit
Don’t worry, they’ll put about as much effort into the campaign as ChatGPT did in this post.
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
Nah, I believe in the effort itself. I just also know Skywest will do literally illegal things to keep it from happening.
throwaway_tiredcap@reddit
Referring to the collective pilot group, not whoever is pushing for alpa again. The dubiously-legal anti union propaganda is strong.
bingeflying@reddit
Accurate
172sierrapapa@reddit
As much as people forget about this due to OO being a regional, ya'll are one of the largest airlines in the world. The fact a shop this big isn't unionized is a calamity not just for OO pilots but for any airline pilot. Wish you all the best of luck in getting the representation you deserve.
CloudBreakerZivs@reddit
DM some info if you can
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
OP quite literally includes a web address
CloudBreakerZivs@reddit
Sorry. It’s expected. I’m just a regional pilot after all.
JimLeylandsCiggies@reddit
It doesn’t help that a third of the pilot group are lifer anti-union types that shit talk any effort put into a drive and another third are young bucks that think they’ll jump ship in 3 years and don’t care about improving the company they’re currently at. On top of that you’re more likely to get a reach around from TT than having a good faith discussion with management about a union.
Working_Football1586@reddit
Problem is a good chunk of OO pilots say: My quality of life sucks and my pay increase is way less than inflation also unions are bad.
hypnotoad23@reddit
I’d love to see OO get a union, but you guys face a VERY tough battle. Is ALPA helping you out financially to get things off the ground?
cincocerodos@reddit
ALPA’s been burned twice by SkyWest and they can probably tell this effort is such an uphill battle that they aren’t going to commit to anything.
rFlyingTower@reddit
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
Many of you have probably noticed that the SkyWest ALPA effort has been relatively quiet over the past several months. During that time, the organizing effort underwent a transition in leadership and took the opportunity to reassess how we move forward.
Today, a new team is leading the campaign, and we are essentially rebuilding from the ground up. The only pilot information retained is information that was voluntarily submitted through our website, and that information is safeguarded by ALPA under the same standards and protections used for more than 80,000 ALPA-represented pilots across the industry.
We understand that some pilots may have questions about where the effort stands today. What we can say is that the current team is committed to transparency, professionalism, and earning the trust of our pilot group every step of the way.
While momentum may have slowed, the level of interest shown by SkyWest pilots last year demonstrated that many of us care deeply about having a stronger voice in our future. That interest didn’t disappear. The issues that prompted pilots to engage in the conversation remain important, and many pilots continue to believe those conversations are worth having.
This effort is not about the past. It’s about the future of our pilot group and ensuring that every pilot has access to accurate information and an opportunity to make an informed decision about representation.
Whether you’re supportive of ALPA, opposed to ALPA, or still undecided, we welcome respectful discussion and encourage everyone to evaluate the effort based on the facts, the current leadership team, and the vision moving forward.
We’re excited to be back, to reconnect with the pilot group, and to continue building momentum together. If you are a SkyWest pilot interested in learning more or registering your interest, please visit our website at skw.alpa.org.
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